Are there any reasons to choose a verpr like pic related over

>>32172862
Classicfirearms seem to have them for about $700.
Not knowing much about the AK market I am a bit worried since it's about the same price as all those other AKs that get shit on by /k/ like the RAS47, C39, and IO.

>>32172984

Veprs legit Russian AK's. They have reinforced receivers similar to the RPK receiver. They also have heavy barrels which greatly improves accuracy. They also have chrome plated bores. Vepr's are one of the highest quality AK's you can buy these days. They are also easily convertible to a standard AK look.

>>32172984

I thought c39 v2s were good though?

>>32172862
Veprs are available in .308/7.62x51 NATO and 7.62x54R (nugget food), as well as the Vepr-12 shotgun. I don't see much point in a Vepr over a regular AK in 7.62x39 or 5.45, but for the larger rounds it's a very cool concept.

>>32173110
so did I, the boss of my local shop told me it's the best shit ever, but that may just be him trying to make me buy things.
Opinions on the internet seem to be mixed with the century arms build quality and all, that and shitposting in general.

>>32172862
It's the best ak on the market. Period. A little heavier than a wasr but it's built to last.
You will need to convert it by installing a bullet guide and possibly shaving down the mag catch A LITTLE
It's one of the best guns I own. I have one chambered in 7.62x39 and a vepr 12. Also owned a 54r vepr but sold it because I didn't like 54r. >>32173094
Chrome plated gas tube, and piston. The bolt face, and extractor are stronger than most of them out there, even top quality ar extractors can't hold a candle. Just more robust. They also have good sights, which most aks don't. They are made in Russia, adding to collector value and resale value. >>32173128
They do make 545 vepr and I bet it's badass
>>32173145
If you are willing to do the conversion yourself, CAREFULLY , or pay an expert who's done it before , then he is right, it's the best shit ever. Build quality of the vepr isn't questioned often by people who own them.

>>32173145
the guy was promoting the C39V2, not the vepr

>>32173421
>You will need to convert it by installing a bullet guide
what does that do?

>>32173421
>best ak on the market
No

>>32173483
Allows you to use a double stack magazine. Because it's not 922r compliant it comes with proprietary mags that feed like a single stack.

>>32172862
/k/ is a big fan of them

they arn't AK's, and I don't think they share any parts with AK's

but they receive good reviews, build quality is reportedly very high and for that reason they are considered better value than AK's

if you have one, everyone will think it is an AK and you can get AK style furniture for them

but I can't speak first hand

>>32173694
You're right, technically they're RPKs because of the heavier trunion, receiver, and barrel. However, other than that they're identical to other AKs

>>32173458
Century took a very "American" approach to making the C39v2. Much lower clearances and a button rifled barrel. This makes for a very accurate AK, at the expense of barrel life and overall reliability

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>>32173487
neighbor don't even lie.

Valmets cant get imported so VEPR is pretty much the best

Century built (keyword is built) AK's are crap. The C39 and RAS are meant to be a rifle for someone that will run a few mags through it once and awhile and that's it. IO AK's are just plain dangerous. The reason being is that some critical parts in moth IO and century AK's are cast rather than forged. Cast parts we stand break much quicker. VEPRS are top notch, but you will have to convert it to get it to look like a classic AK. Get a WASR (Romanian built by Cugir and imported by Century) and call it a day. They are going bellow $700 in many places now

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>They're available in fucking .243 now
Molot's going ham! Too bad it's with this weird shit instead of a 23" squareback 6.5 grendel.

>>32173816
>convert it to look like a classic AK
why play dress ups
rifle is fine

people will think it is an AK anyway just because of the mag release/dust cover/front sights

Vepr are the best AK, weight-aside.

If I have a small military, you bet my ass my troops would have selective fire 5.45 Vepr as standard rifles.

>>32175778
I'd bet your ass on a poker game anon ;)

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>>32172862
it's only in that configuration because it was too scary to be imported in its original military-style configuration. They're available in the normal config now though so no big deal

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>>32172984
Vepr is a Russian AK made on the RPK receiver. It's the best AK in the world, alongside Saiga.
>>32173110
Century's American-made AKs are shit, stay away. Actually, all American AKs are shit.

>>32178031
>it's only in that configuration because it was too scary to be imported in its original military-style configuration. They're available in the normal config now though so no big deal
But I like the wood thumbhole better.

>>32178038
If you like the wood better, no reason not to go for it. It won't have all of the same features as a regular AK though, such as being able to use double stack magazines or a threaded barrel, unless you convert it.

AKs handle a wide variety of calibers extremely well, no problems there. I have a Vepr 12 gauge and it runs like a champ

>>32172862
>verper
It's better for jabberwocky and possibly skinwalkers

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308 vepr owner here. Veprs are based on the Russian rpk action, a heavier truinion and barrel and a better chrome lining on barrel and bore.

The 7.62 x 39 vepr will come with a slant back receiver, thumb hole stock, proprietary magazines, and a pinwelded cover on the muzzle threading.

To convert a vepr to look like an AK, one must do the following:

-dremel the pin out of the muzzlethreading cover. It's standard 14x1 LH under there.
-install a screw in adapter to accept standard ak butt stocks and pistol grips
-install a hand guard brace to hold ak style upper and lower hand guards
-install an aftermarket bullet guide. This requires drilling into your receiver.

At the end you have a rock solid ak rifle. Cost will be a bit under 1k depending on parts

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>>32179245
>Veprs are based on the Russian rpk action
It's literally just a standard AK action, as is the RPK.

>>32179286
Actually the receiver is 1.5mm thickness, fully a third beefier than the standard ak. The barrel is cold hammer forged and indeed thicker than the same ak.

But yes it is similar in action and uses some of the same parts (piston rod, gas tube, a very similar trigger, identical extractor and firing pin in the x39 models.

But please...tell me I don't know what I'm writing about again.

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>>32180242
>Actually the receiver is 1.5mm thickness
Not a part of the action
>But yes it is similar in action
If by similar you mean literally identical
>piston rod, gas tube, a very similar trigger
So the whole action is the same? Wow, it's almost like I said that over an hour ago

>In firearms terminology, an action is the mechanism that handles the ammunition (loads, locks, fires, and extracts the cartridges)
>The RPK functions identically to the AK-47.

>But please...tell me I don't know what I'm writing about again.

I just did nigga

>>32172862
I think the looks, features, size, and weight of an ak-74 style gun make it objectively more desirable & useful ak than a vepr sporter.
Mechanical accuracy differences etc will be negligible, accuracy differences from carrying a heavy rifle are not negligible.
But if you want to fire a full size cartridge, you'll be firing it from a heavier built rifle.

>>32180509
That's why the Russians designed and still use the RPK-74 right, because it's so useless.

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>>32180242

>>32180596
>comparing a vepr to an actual rpk
Seriously? They're two very different animals, aside from the obvious similarities like being an ak action and 1.5mm receiver. I have an russian built vepr rpk-74, except in 556. It's not a gun you walk and plink/hunt with. A regular vepr would be FAR better suited to that. And a regular ak is better suited yet.

Not OP, but is there parts to convert the 5.45 version for regular furniture and AK mags too I'm guessing? Is it cheaper just to get an arsenal or something?

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>>32180596
>implying a civilian sporter rifle fills the same niche as a squad automatic weapon
The VEPR is fine, in fact the best AK on the US market except for maybe Arsenal, but the heavier components aren't necessary

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>>32172862
The Vepr is a fucking tank and the best AK rifle you can buy, bar none. But if you have weak little bitch arms, this rifle is not for you. Every component is overbuilt, and the receiver is about twice as thick as an AK receiver. It will outlast your grandchildren.
t. Vepr 7.62x54R and Vepr-12 owner

Alright this seem like the right thread to ask.

So the SKS is supposed to be a very reliable rifle, but how does it perform in comparison to other AKs on the market? Is it "reliable and rugged for what it is" or "as good as certain models for $200 less"?

>>32182811
Theoretically, it's a bit less reliable due to having more moving parts. In reality, mine is just as reliable as my AK. Keep in mind that the AK is an objectively better gun, doing everything an SKS does except with cheap detachable mags and aftermarket; the SKS detachable mags aren't worth it. That said, I prefer the full stock stripper fed SKS just for fucking around at the range