Isn't uniform the definition of using the same outfit as

>>32166092
for the most part except when it comes to religious shit. I've worked with sikhs in the military and they're really switched on people. Id rather see that a billion times than one fucking burka as a uniform. That's the day I leave the forces

I really don't care. Why be angry at a guy who's beating the system.

>>32166108
This

>>32166092

He's tabbed, may only be sapper, but still better than 99% of the rest of the military.

>>32166108
This, Sikhs are based as fuck. Honest, dependable, hardworking people. Wish it was them coming to the West in droves, instead of the durkas.

>>32166092
Where I live beards has allways been allowed, but Turbans? I doubth it will fit under the helmet...

>>32166155
I imagine he has a low-profile turban for combat situations

>>32166155
They're only allowed that stuff when not deployed anywhere "important."

If one gets sent to Afghan he has to meet standard regs, and even then he usually won't be allowed anywhere near a combat unit.

>>32166175
>Low profile
High speed low drag religion

How the fuck do they get a good seal on a p-mask?

>>32166154
They don't need to ride garbage scows to get socialist gibs.

>>32166092
Sikhs are cool dudes who carry swords and don't afraid of anything. Unfortunately, he's fucked in a gas attack.

>>32166703

vaseline

>>32166092
that's pretty sikh

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>>32166691
>High speed low drag religion

>>32166761
>implying he'll be anywhere near a gas attack
Just like Trans, they won't let their golden goose get shot to shit. Just parade them around for everyone to see.

>>32166821
Sikhs are actually good soldiers though, unlike the mentally ill. They've been removing sandniggers and DESIGNATEDs for the British for centuries.

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>>32166175
You're god damn right he does.

>>32166092
They opened the doors for this when they started allowing expression of religious belief in the service. I'm actually surprised it took this long for someone to push for a turban.

>>32166092
Didn't this guy demonstrate he could get a proper seal with his gas mask and so was allowed to keep the beard? Some shit like that.

>>32166092
Sikhs are based as hell.

Good for him.

>>32166154
t. Singh from Toronto

>>32167720
as long as those Canadian Sikhs keep blowing up Muslims and leave real people alone they're OK by me

Kids on /k/ are too stupid to even remotely understand but as someone who didn't grow up in your brainwashing school:
No, non whites aren't cooler than vanilla whites. Sikhs are not based since they are unwilling to adapt to the western military standard. Just ask yourself, would this be alllowed in 1950s USA under president Eisenhower? That's all you need to know

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>>32167878
Even the medics dream of removing kebab.

>>32167720
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeFlLkUHKbA

>muh based sikhs

fuck off faggots and fuck this special snowflake faggot

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>>32166092
Agreed.
Uniform means the same for everyone.
SF can wear beards, minorities can wear beards.
If the headshed want muh inclusion muh equality, make beards allowed across the board.
>only reggiefucks still cling to the cleanshave equals combat morale bullshit

>>32166092

Sikhs are literally a fucking warrior race who hate muslims. If letting them wear a turban means more in our military, so be it.

>>32166092
Sikh are good people and part of one of the most /k/ religions. They are compelled to always be armed as per the pillars of their religion require them to be ready and able to protect those around them at any given time.

>tfw trying to disarm them would be religious persecution

What if a Pastafarian joins the military. What do we do?

>>32166092
We don't even hate burqas, we hate the muslims under it. I don't care if this fellow muslim-killer have something on his head.

>>32169223
he gets hazed back to reditt for being a fedora tipping edgester

>>32166092
Every level of the military uses alterations to the "same outfit" to denote rank and shit.

The turban and beard are just to let everyone else know that he operates hard.

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>>32169286
>fedora tipping edgester
I've read the Pastafarian bible or whatever the fuck it's called, probably still have it lying around somewhere, and it's honestly pretty great. It doesn't take itself too seriously, and it spends more time making fun of manlets than organized religion.

Publicly calling yourself a Pastafarian is stupid, but the book itself was overall an enjoyable read. Just like a million other things, it was faggots taking something fun and memeing it until it was dead and not funny any more. Just look at /b/ and /pol/, same shit.

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>>32166154
Thing I've got to wonder, is what is the Sikh stance on athiesm/agnosticism/apathiesm?
I hear their religion is largely based on wanting people to be good people in their own religion, so what do they feel on those who don't have religion?

>>32166092

He's a captain you nigger, he gets more say than the lower ranking boots. Same reason you see SFs with mustaches and beards.

>>32166841
Thats fuckin awesome.

>>32169656
Then just do good in life. The whole belief in God for non-skihs really depends on the person
>>32169868
>Captain
This is the army son, Caps ain't shit. He won because he presented a solid legal case.

>>32168967
Its esprit de corps, if everyone feels better with beards - and it isn't a safety hazard, then its still within esprit de corps. They made it a ritual in the past after it became a safety thing, that you were a clean shaven civilized man, not a grizzly animal. Times change back again, standards might slowly relax.

>>32166841

>camo turban

Is it wrong that I kind of want one?

>>32166108
I got news for you buddy, there's a chick where i'm at that got command approved for a burka. it's starting.

>>32166092
>WAAH! Someone else got to do something that I didn't! It's not fair!
Man the fuck up and make it happen yourself, just like he did.

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>>32166791
Underrated

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>>32166092
His turban is a good start, but we need to go larger for for the sturmsikhs.

>>32169656
Sikhism is more of a way of life then a religion, like Buddhism or Confucianism. They believe in a higher power, but not really in a God in the Abrahamic sense. It's not incompatible with the Abrahamic religions, nor is it incompatible with atheism. Although obviously it's hard to reconcile even the most inclusive religions with Dawkinsesque rabid anti-spiritualism.

>>32170565
Is that big one the GLA symbol from Generals?

>>32169933
The thing is, modern masks can seal fine over a beard, so it's not like that's that bad.

The could totally add a set of beard guidelines to 670-1 to ensure it looks good.

>>32170565
Imagine how fucked his neck is from that 25lbs of bullshit

>>32166092
I have mixed opinions on exceptions to uniform regulations. I'm fine with religious exceptions though I think it would be better for different religions to have their own regiments like the British military has. But make the women get high-and-tights if they want to be in the military (especially combat units) so badly.

Also, what's the issue with just allowing all men in the military to have neatly-trimmed beards? From what I've heard modern gas masks will still create a seal.

>>32171635
What neck? Looks like his head is glued to his shoulders.

>>32170507

you have to be brown for that to work.

>>32170613
>Although obviously it's hard to reconcile even the most inclusive religions with Dawkinsesque rabid anti-spiritualism.

Well said.

>>32171821
The second you make an exception for one group you are fucked.

You guys can claim "based sikhs" all fucking day, but the exception for them will be used for every special snowflake group out there.

Enjoy the camo burkas with ranger tabs on them.

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>>32166092
>http://www.badassoftheweek.com/21sikhs.html
>The ball-busting defense of the tiny-yet-critical British fortress at Saragarhi is one of the most storied and famous tales of skull-crushing bravery in the already-badass military history of the Sikh people. The middle-finger-u-death response of the ferocious 21 men who bravely held their ground against impossible odds is often held up as the ultimate example of Sikh badassitude, which is really saying something considering that these balls-out Indian hardasses have stories about shit like the dude who ran around pureeing enemy soldiers apart even after being mostly decapitated by a broadsword to the throat. Yet despite this epic showdown being the basis for a national holiday among Sikhs and a valiant, head-cleaving last stand worthy of the Spartans at Thermopylae, this insane tale of 21 warriors going Horde Mode against roughly the entire male population of Central Asia in a single battle remains largely undocumented in Western military histories. This is their tale.

This motherfucker can come to work in nipple pasties and a rainbow thong for all I care.

>>32170565
>Sturmsikhs
>mfw

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>>32166092
There may yet be hope for members of the Church of the FSM

Glad to know that Trump will put an end to this insane muslim pandering

>>32166092
>giving a fuck what a POG wears

Must always have exceptions for the non-whites
And the women
And the gays
And the trannies
Soon enough there will be no place for white men

He can wear it for another two months

>>32172497
Sikhs aren't Muslims dumbass

>>32166155
Fits better than a woman with 4 feet of hair.

>>32168967
what about the effectiveness of gas masks ?

>>32166092
Anyone else notice how his turban looks better than the floppy as shit standard issue melting pizza berets

>>32173934
petrol jelly, also WW1 ended nearly 100 years ago

>>32173229
>Waaaahhhh inclusion is baaaaadddd
You know what fucking matters? If they have the skills to do the job and the willingness to volunteer to do it.

>>32173934
Sikh soldiers have already proven that they can seal current promasks with beards.

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>>32173978

Agreed, fuck berets, bring back the garrison cap.

>>32174054
This, or get European style berets, or bring back the campaign hat, or the kepi, anything accept the melted pizza

>>32166841

So can you fit a helmet over it or is getting fucked by explosives and shrapnel just part of the game when you're a Sikh?

>>32174077
Both?

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>>32166092
>getting mad at sikhs
>not realizing his beard and turban look fucking sikh
faggot

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>>32166841
>when the inbreeding hits you like...

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>>32166092
I was muhreen. My uniforms were pretty fly, and I'm a white guy.

>>32170565
Look at that niggas hands, dude

>>32166841
Can you imagine how many times those guys get called "fucking muslim" or similar? Must suck.

Are sikhs, dare I say, our shitskins?

>>32171946
No you don't, you just have to have a compelling reason. Convert to Sikhism or start your own church that doesn't allow men to go around girl-faced in public. Stephen Colbert formed a church and even outlined the process on television. I have faith in your abilities, anon. You can do it, too.

>>32174259
>Can you imagine how many times those guys get called "fucking muslim" or similar? Must suck.

Imagine being a Sikh during the time 9/11 happened. Yup.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-xthcJWXn0

>>32170565
the Supreme Seik

>>32173934
What this guy said >>32173995

Canada's Defence Minister even made a invented a hood that works with gas masks and beards.

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>>32166092
> UNI = Same
>FORM = From / appearance
Yes. It is.
This is the modern way of not discriminating. You do it by treating minorities different.

>>32174706
We don't really need to imagine. There was that stupid redneck who shot up a Sihk temple a few years ago as "revenge for 9/11". And I'm sure it wouldn't take much trouble to find other attacks on record, shortly after 9/11 itself.

>>32168967
I hear godfather himself say you look like a bum.

>>32166703
In Commonwealth militaries, where Sikhs are much more common for obvious reasons, they're typically allowed to keep a beard as long as they're willing to shave a strip of hair through it to allow a gas mask seal.

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>>32173995
You clearly never have been anywhere near a MOS and based on your dumb ass comment you either are a millennial or liberal, so I can't really blame you.

What matters is that every individual in the armed forces is held to the same basic standard. No short-cuts, not lowering the bar, not broadening the uniform regulation for some people. If you do it it should be done for everyone, and everyone should be held to the new standard.

A uniform is designed so shows no personal preference or opinion or belief. You wear your countries flag because you are representing the whole nation wearing that uniform.

This is the most included you will ever be. If you give different religions different uniforms it leads to segregation.

>>32174823
>What matters is that every individual in the armed forces is held to the same basic standard
Agreed, but that standard should be training, fortitude, and capability, not how pretty you can look prancing around the parade ground. Personal grooming preferences should never be considered part of the uniform. If your soldiers look like hobos, it's because your leadership has failed to instill the necessary pride in their work. Attempting to solve leadership issues with legislation is exactly what's turned this country into the shithole it is today.

>>32174823
>accuses someone else of having never served
>spergs about how le uniform is the most important thing ever

>>32174864
I was talking about the head dress.

As I said, if you broaden the regulation it should be available for everyone. So everyone should now be able to wear a beard.

>>32173934
I have routinely used an S10 mask with a beard and never had a problem getting a seal.

>>32174877
Wierd conclusion. Maybe you should read it again.

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>>32174880
What about militaries that allow certain specialties to have beards, like the French Foreign Legion and their Sappers?

>>32174880
I don't see a problem with opening up headwear to personal preference either, as long as it doesn't interfere with PPE. If your soldiers have pride in their work, they won't be wearing fedoras around in uniform.

>>32173229
That's how we make it uniform.
There's a difference between letting 1% grow a beard and being muh speshul snoflayk, and having everybody else see that they're different - that's not inclusion or uniformity.
The simple answer is
>Everybody who can or wants to gets to grow a beard
It works for the Royal Navy

That way everyone is equal and inclusive

>>32174915
So you're >>32174823? And your only complaint is that some people get to wear beards and others don't? I think we're all on the same page, then. Everyone in the military should be able to wear whatever facial hair they want and whatever headwear they want. As long as your leadership isn't completely fucking garbage, you won't have anyone show up in >>32170565, despite not having a rule against it.

>>32174929
No, Im not him.
Beards, special haircuts, anything else special doesn't make them included - it just makes them stand out and get discriminated for or against.
Thats why it should be one rule for all - and if it's ok for one small group to wear a beard, the answer is for the same to apply uniformly.

>>32166831
>designated

Could someone explain this to me?

>>32174963

>>32174077
>kevlar lined turbans

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>>32174991
derp

>>32174823
This

Fuck special snowflakes and "MUH inclusion". You are a soldier, first and last when you put on a countries UNIFORM. If you have to have you special uniform with bells and rosary beads on you have no place in the armed forces. Because then you put yourself over the uniform and your service.

>>32174898
Are those based upon religious belief and the soldiers personal preference? Or are those following the same uniform standard in the unit? Thats the fucking difference.

>>32174786
That's total bullshit and you're talking out your ass

A sikh would never cut their hair for any reason

>>32174994
oh, thanks, forgot about the shitting street

>>32174760
uni is one
dipshit

>>32168290
>retroactiveabortion.jpg

>>32175024
to answer your question , the legion allows it because it tradition that came from the Napoleonic era , it was to protect their neck from sword slashes , it all started from the French army , sappers use to be a elite troop and saw a lot of fighting in the front lines

>>32175143
It was a rhetorical question.

and its not for protection against swords, cause hair does nothing to stop a sword, its an honor given to soldiers with low life expectancy.

>>32167911
>non whites aren't cooler than vanilla whites.

You're building a strawman, anon

>>32174898
If you took the time to read the post you would know my answer.

Everyone should be allowed or none. Its stupid to reserve grooming standards to a MOS or religion.

>>32166108
>>for the most part except when it comes to religious shit.

Why did they sign on for it then?

I would understand religious "oppression" if you were drafted but signing into a service that requires you shave your beard and not wear a turban, only to complain you want to wear a beard and a turban?

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>>32166092
Sikh can do whatever the fuck he wants. Look at that handsome mother fucker. Complete fucking badass but only when its a Sikh. Mudslimes should be forced to wear fedoras, the international queer hat.

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>>32174992

>>32174823
>In 10 years
>3 deployments
>Both Cav and Signal
>Go fuck your "durr muh nobody but cishet white guys deserve to serve" fuckstick bullshit

>>32172090
Then just start wearing your gillie suit with your ribbons on it

>>32175087
underrated

>>32173823
trolling is a art

>>32175930
>the army should give snowflakes and faggots special treatment.
Notice that he never said that they shouldn't serve, he said they should wear the same uniform as the rest of us
>using cishet unironically
Unironically kill yourself.

>>32175770
that backwards flag always triggers me. the field of blue with white stars goes on the LEFT when displaying the flag.

>>32176250
Oh, hey, you put on your "I'm a dickhead" title.

>>32176262
Excet the idea's that it's like a flag flying as you run forward.

>>32166154

And let white women get preyed upon? Nice try, poo-land.

>>32176300
>this triggers the fuccboi

>>32176356
>Implying I'm not enjoying that you get triggered by the idea that people who are different want to serve

>>32166108
>they're really switched on people
Can you pls explain what do you mean by that? I'm not native speaker.

>>32176434
Let me know when you kick that strawman's ass.

>>32176476
Motivated to do their jobs well

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>>32175930
>Cav
>Signal
>Does not know how to greentext
I never implied serving should be exclusive. Serving should be the same for everyone, whatever race, sexual orientation, sex, religion or culture.

>>32167911
Oh but they were in ww2. Learn history man. There weren't any in the US. But they fought from India, France and the UK. And this was while India and the UK were still bitter. I'm sure if there had been larger numbers of them in the US we would have had a sikh regiment.

>>32178607

A Gurkha would fucking have you, mate. You want them on your side. You can fuck them over later, after most of them have died protecting you.

>>32166092
look at me i'm a special snowflake

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>>32166092
>uniform
>uni form
>uni
>form
>one
>formation
>mfw I just realized this

rules are for males that aren't jew, sikh, or muslim.

everyone else gets to wiggle out of some of them.