five seven guy here again called another range asking if I could

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you know he's right OP

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>>32152124
except it's nowhere near rifle round capabilities. fucking retards.

>pay an arm and a leg for this meme gun and also pay more for its special snowflake ammo
>can't even fucking shoot it anywhere

bahahahhahahahahahahhaha

>indoor ranges
what else would you expect?

>>32152124
The real reason is they don't want people complaining about your overpriced .22 magnum making annoying muzzle flash and blast

>>32152124
What's the recoil like on a it?

Even though he said no today, he did admit he wasn't sure. I have to call and ask for the owner tomorrow.

For the record im in western illinois near iowa.

>>32152180
I'm pretty damn trolled right now. Jimmies are maximum overrustled

>>32152184
That a sporting round would be able to be shot indoors

>>32152192
WISH I KNEW FAMALAM...


We got a buddy in Iowa who lives in a more rural area. Gonna see if we can shoot it there.

>>32152220
a poor choice in first guns, regardless of your range issue

>>32152241
Sure makes me feel better about my overpriced pre election ar

>>32152124
Do they allow 44 Magnum? 454 Casull? 50 AE?

>>32152262
I hope it is chambered in 5.56 or Slov ammo

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>>3215224

Care to go into detail about what makes it a poor choice? Other than costs?

>>32152192
i shot a range officers once after i let him shoot my .44. Thing has less recoil than some .22's i've shot.

>>32152124
They don't want you to practice for when you shoot up a base.

>>32152269

It can potentially damage the steel backstop if it's not designed for 2000 FPS

More speed = more damage to steel

Plenty of indoor ranges are rifle certified, though

Anyway, OP:

You can easily load subsonic or stuff around 1,500 FPS

>>32152284
that's one of the most ugly paint jobs I've ever seen

>>32152124
Sucks that your indoor range does not allow 5.7x28mm. Even the indoor range in /k/ommiefornia allows it, even the one south of San Francisco the shittiest place to own or shoot any guns.

>>32152284
Unless you plan on defending yourself against people with body armor and you have the AP rounds it's not much more than a novelty. Which is great unto itself but it's not really practical in comparison to standard calibers like 9mm or .45, I generally think overpenetraion is a meme but at most self defense distances it's just going to pass through and through.

>>32152465
> see watermark

mine looks similar to that tho.

>>32152273
5.56

>>32152488
Meh, I own a fiveseven because I want it and love the mag round capacity. I do own AP rounds and so I guess I am ready for any baddies with level 3a armor or lower, SHTF yo.

>>32152483

Jackson?

>>32152527
Yup, Jackson Arms.

Well they did design it for a rifle first. The ammo was slightly shortened to fit in the pistol later

>>32152124
wtf they better call the atf and tip them off to this then

>tfw range allows 5.7
>but only out of PS90s
It's an odd feel, that's for sure.

>>32152124
My local indoor range rents out five sevens

>>32152429
dude it's a 40 grain bullet, even at 2000 fps that's such a small soft lump how would it not pretty much disintegrate and spawl all over into fragments on impact. if it were steel core or something harder i doubt even a jacket would stay intact. It's nearly half the weight and twice the speed of some .32 acp loads I really don't see why a range would be concerned about it unless it has a hard perpetrator.

>>32152124
bump for interest

my COD tier sources say the 5.7 has great armor penetrating ability

curious about if it over-penetrates soft targets, and what effect it would have shooting through debris and vehicles

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>>32153959
>shooting through debris
wat

>>32153771

Doesn't matter

A .44 Mag, 240 grain at 1500 FPS will bounce

A .22, 40 grain at 2000 will dig in

Muzzle energy alone doesn't matter here

>>32153959

It's better than normal pistol caliber stuff against thin steel and kevlar

It doesn't penetrate flesh more than other pistol calibers

With any serious body armor, it's as ineffective as the other pistol calibers; you need 3000+ FPS to start bothering that with a rifle.

>>32154015
shooting through things that are neither Armour, nor soft targets

miscelanious obstructions, like car doors, plaster walls, wood panels etc

some rounds would fail to penetrate the intended target correctly if they struck an object first

for example if someone shot me through my front door
would the characteristics of the round (particularly it's velocity) cause it to fragment into tiny pieces when it hit the door, resulting in only fleshwounds to me
would it pass straight through the door, me, and the wall behind me?

this characteristic doesn't necessarily remain in tandem with the ability of a round to penetrate proper armour

>>32154035
this is what I have heard, do you know if there is a source behind that?
my instinct would tell me the round would over-penetrate soft targets, and fair better (with core ammo) against serious armour

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>>32154083
The proper way of asking that would be how barrier blind the ammunition is.

>>32154083

It doesn't do well against soft targets simply because it's a typical spitzer projectile

It yaws not too far after penetration, which greatly reduces its penetration in soft material

>>32154093
ah, I learn something new
this is good

>>32154104
but how well it does is really relative is it not
would it impact as well as a 124 grain 9mm against a soft target for instance?

what would we say the strengths of it are?
what would be the weaknesses

>>32154160

9mm will penetrate flesh more with the same type of projectile

5.7mm is good against soft body armor, you have a better trajectory with about 150 yards of effective range (from a P90 barrel or less), recoil is a lot less than 9mm, and the damage done isn't much different in regards to tissue damage

>>32152241
Explain why it is a poor choice.

>>32152171
>implying .22lr isn't also a rifle round that's allowed everywhere despite having pistols specifically designed to fire the .22lr