Is the Beretta m9a3 enough of an improvement over the m9 to justify

Meme gun

also no anchor engraving/10

>>32147509
If you have no problems w/ the stock M9, then it's not worth it. If you want a dovetailed front sight and the ability to convert it to decock only, then the M9A3 is well worth the extra $500.

>>32147536
How the hell is it a meme gun?

>>32147579
Isn't there a model of the original m9 that is decock only? What's the benefit of a dovetailed front sight? Are there any reliability or accuracy improvements.

>>32147509
No, yes.
Bar the backstraps you could get a 92A1 with a threaded barrel for less than $800 if you're a jew. It'll be the same thing minus the ugly color.

Honestly the only reason I'd even consider one of these things is because Beretta made the Vertec unobtanium just to force people to buy the A3.

>>32147594
It's not a meme gun.

/k/ uses that term to describe guns they don't like. This ranges from Glocks all the way to Hi Point.

Don't take /k/'s advice. Do more research, rent it, and make your rational decision all by yourself.

>>32147594
>Isn't there a model of the original m9 that is decock only?

Yes, but they aren't very common. Converting safe/decock slide to decock only requires expensive machining work.

>What's the benefit of a dovetailed front sight?
It allows you to install night sights or fiber optic sights.

>Are there any reliability or accuracy improvements
That depends on if you consider night sights an accuracy improvement. Apart from that, I'm not aware of anything substantial.

>>32147509

Speaking of Berettas, is the 92S acceptable as an affordable option?

>>32147509
my wrist hurts just looking at that grip angle. If it's only for milfags who'll only put 100 downrange/year, ok I guess. But that looks unwieldy as fuck.

Then again, I admit I haven't fingerfucked one, and was never a fan of the original's ergos.

also, jesus christ, it is ugly in tan. slide mounted safety. you can land a plane on the trigger pull

>>32147509
The mags are compatible, and you could also get 18 round flush fit Mec-Gars.
>>32147635
They restarted production of the vertec.
>>32147675
Beretta announced/leaked that a G conversion lever that is just a part swap is in the works.

>>32147675
Hadn't realized the front sight on the a1 wasn't replaceable. That is a massive advantage in my book as I've had front sights get damaged before. Can the level be removed complete instead of just converted to decock only?

>>32147635
I wish they had gone od green. I've got one od green handgun and it looks really good. Still, I'm not terribly upset by the gun being a color besides all black.

>>32147698
They do include a second grip that matches the original's ergos. I have large hands and I've noticed I seem to have different tastes in grips that a lot of people.

>>32147704
Are the mec-gars as good as the beretta mags? I remember reading about the military getting mags from a different manufacturer and getting reliability problems because of it.

>>32147704
>Beretta announced/leaked that a G conversion lever that is just a part swap is in the works

Link? I'm not finding anything to that effect.

>>32147705
I'm by no means against fde guns, though I also prefer od, but something about the color of the m9a3 just doesn't sit right with me. Hell, if you could find one for $1000 and like the color it's probably worth it considering the cost to get a normal 92a1 refinished properly.

>>32147704
As far as I know, the Vertec hasn't been taken out of production for the past few years. They're just impossible to find.

>>32147737
Mec-gar makes the best mags period, as well as being (usually) cheaper than factory mags.

>>32147697
Sure, but keep in mind the police trade-ins you'll find might need to replace a spring or two. Also, the 92S is NOT the same as a 92fs/m9 and will not have 100% magazine compatibility. It has a button heal release, which requires a different cut in the magazine. Apparently modern 92fs mags made by Beretta still have the cut, but make sure to check before buying.

>>32147772
Not him but most of the reviews I've read have stated something to that effect. Though I was under the impression that the conversion was already out.

>>32147772
You will have to dig around on berettaforum . com

>>32147799
>Mec-gar makes the best mags period, as well as being (usually) cheaper than factory mags.
Thanks for the heads up. I'll definitely check out their m9 mags if I decide to get one. Do they have what ever sand resistant coating beretta is claiming is on their mags? I guess I can always just buy one and see if it's as reliable in sand as the beretta mags are.

>>32147737
Mec-Gars ARE the Beretta mags. Mec-Gar is the OEM mag for basically everything but Glocks and 1911s.

>>32147840
Sorry for namefaging. I was shitposting in Hunter 3-11 Actuals tread earlier.

Point stands, Meg-Gar makes most factory mags.

>>32147840
Ah, thanks. I'll definitely get their mags then.

>>32147836
Yes, considering like >>32147840 said Mec-gar is the oem. The only reason they didn't have that coating to begin with is because the US military is sometimes a little asinine.

>>32147876
I'll definitely be grabbing their mags.

>>32147811
Are you referring to the m9a3 g conversion or a g conversion for 92fs variants?

>>32147870
I noticed.
YOU RUINED THE WHOLE THREAD YOU TARD

>>32147840
>>32147870
This guy is braggin about shitposting on /k/.
How is that not a bannable offense?

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>>32147955
I am referring to a G conversion compatible with the 92sf and it's descendent designs.

>>32147509
No.
Might as well buy a 1911.
The whole beretta meme needs to die already.
The damn thing reeks of special snowflake and battlefield elitisim.
>>32147536
This is true. But what is the anchor thing?

>>32148053
Thanks, I was hoping that was the case

>>32148068
Sig offered a Navy SEAL variant of one of their guns for $200 more. All that is different is there's an anchor on the slide.

It's geared more for older Republicans who thank everyone in uniform for their service.

>>32147579
You are so fucking dumb

>>32148097
Oh.
Sounds kinda cool though.
Did seals use them or was that a meme too?

>>32148116
No.

>>32147704
You can literally buy a Beretta 92G.

Conversion requires one fucking spring and a detent change.

Protip the Beretta M9A3G is literally a SKU'd item

>>32148107
Care to elaborate?

>>32148107
He's kind right though. Having a standard 92 front sight dovetailed and then modified to be a type G costs money and time. If the M9A3 comes with nightsights factory(I'm not sure if it does) and the owner intends to use it for self defense then I'd say that's $500 well spent.

>>32148184
>What is an A1 slide
>What is a Brigadier model
>What is a Beretta 92FS

And the M9A3 comes with night sights. I had one in my hands several weeks ago.

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>>32147509
If you're gonna spend stupid money on a Beretta look at the Wilson Combat model.

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>>32147509
It's a quite nice pistol, but ultimately you can achieve something very good as well with a 92A1 (Brigadier).

Personally I don't care for it for a few small reasons, I hate the sand color and for as extravagant as the pistol is they could just as well have given it a Brigadier slide to top off the package. I really like the Wilson Combat Brigadier, if you want to spend money on a fancy 92, it's just as good of an option.

And yes, the 17rd mags work in all the 9mm Beretta 92 series guns (they'll even work in a Taurus with a little bit of converting, and they work MUCH better than factory Taurus mags).

There's even 18rd flush fitting mags, just the same, MecGar is fucking tits, hell, their 20rd mags only protrude about an inch so if you think it's worth it, go for it.

>>32147536
Sigs are boring.

>>32147697
They're alright as beaters, but mind the mag release.

>>32148629
The the difference between the Brigadier slide?

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>>32149077

it's got a thicker profile, is heavier, and is generally more awesome looking.

>>32149077
Much more locking surface for the locking block, on top of heavier profile in general, for most people this means little, but it'll let you shoot a lot of really hot ammo.

>>32147509
I'd buy either a Beretta 90-two or a 92A1 if the standard Beretta grip feels good in your hand. Both of these pistols have a majority of the features the M9A3 has (minus the threaded barrel and vertec grip).

Also, yes 17 round flush fits work in all 92 series pistols past the Beretta 92 SB. Though Mec-Gar makes 18 round flush fit mags and 20 round mags that extend less than an inch past the grip. I'd run those instead.

>>32147509
No. You want a better m9/92?

Go buy a px4. I considered buying an m9a3 until I got the Px4. Can't see a fucking point now.

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>>32150570
I have both a 92A1 & PX4. The only thing they have in common is manufacturers name, OP should go rent both and see which makes his zipper break.

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>>32150570
On that PX4 hype train right now.

Just placed an order for a JM Custom holster while I wait for the new carry model to come out.

>>32148068
You don't know something as basic as the MK25? Why should anyone care about your fuddly opinion?

>>32147509
They ever coming out with a non-tan version? If so, color me interested.

>>32153394
I just looked it up and the changed multiple things besides adding an anchor. They made the extract external, they lighted the slide, and they made the bolt part of the slide rather than having it separate like the original.

>>32154280
extractor*
lightened*
Fuck I just woke up.

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>>32147509
>Is the Beretta m9a3 enough of an improvement over the m9 to justify an extra $500 in it's price?

No. It's meant to appeal to mall-ninjas with too much money to burn.

Many of the extra features on the -A3 can be had on an -A1 for less than $300. Even cheaper if you can find someone who can add the threads on the standard barrel for cheap. But if you're never going to buy a suppressor, then it doesn't matter.

And personally, I own a 90-Two so the ability swap between the slim grip and the standard grip is not a big deal for me.

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>>32147509
Improved ergonomics worth every penny.

>>32147536
unlike Sigs, new Berettas function well out of the box