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>>32140312
Are we Jewing Israel?

>>32140433
It's always been a contest to see who can jew who the hardest.

>>32140312

I am so sick of people disrespecting Israel. They are our greatest allies in the middle-east and we need to support them 100%.

>>32140616
> Jews
> Not used to every single person on the planet hating and disrespecting them
> Never adapted to use that for our advantage
I mean, thanks Joe, but we give you a call when we need someone to e-defend us.

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>>32140312
This is the single most compelling argument for the f35. If Israel buys them, then you know that it's good. Can't jew a jew.

>>32140312
>Israel buys the F-35 that Canada canceled them
>F-35 Growing larger

>>32142076
It's the only 5th gen they can buy, and they have the right to modify it.

So they have no choice

>>32140616
bait/10

I respect Israel but it's a nation of crook, jews and liars.

So a nation of jews

>>32140616
>They are our greatest allies in the middle-east
While true that is not a very high bar.

At all.

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Arigato Jew-san

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>tfw no Lavi gf

>>32140433
Hardly, considering you are paying for them goyim.

>>32140433
they're buying them with the money you gave them so no not really

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>>32140616
Ok, Shalom.

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>It is a proven and unambiguous fact that Israel has sold US technology to China
>Dude let's give them our most advanced fighter
And in 10 years the USAF will cry when China makes a copy of it

Absolute. Fucking. Retardation.

>>32142088
Canada hasn't cancelled yet; they just put down yet another $36 million to keep in the program.

>>32140433
>>32142416
>>32142414
They'll also sell the info to China the first chance they get.

>>32142932
What they did is buy Super Hornets.

>>32140312
We just gave them 24 billion dollars, but earmarked most of it for US weaponry

>>32142441
this holy shit we will never stop letting ourselves get jewed by israel.

>>32140616

Half of these guys are Muslim or paid left wing shills, so really you just have to get used to it.

>>32142993
>We just gave them 24 billion dollars, but earmarked most of it for US weaponry
I wonder if that was a condition that flipped trump on the issue of special-prosecuting shillary.....

Anyone else hear anything more about that?

>>32142076

They tried to buy the F22, but Obama wouldn't let them.

It's the election. If Hitlery had won, they would have been at risk of BDS sanctions. Trump will happily sell the all the 4.5 gen jets they want. Israel's the cudgel Trump will use to beat up Iran.

>>32142439

Gtfo obama

>>32142957
It's basically Trudeau kicking the ball into someone else's court because he vowed never to buy the F-35.

>>32143052
>Israel's the cudgel Trump will use to beat up Iran.
No, I think Israel and big Pharma is who is pulling Trump's strings...

Anyway, Israel cannot be trusted with the F22. And really I would only give them the bare minimum export-version of the F35 - they have a habit of selling shit they agreed not to....

>>32143043
What does that have to do with Hillary?

>>32143235
What does Aunt Jamima have to do with Pancakes?

>>32142957
>Still not officially confirmed or signed off
>Just an attempt to save face after stupid campaign promises

>>32140616
Have a (You). You earned it.

>>32143043
Or because he knew that screaming about jailing her was a convenient way to rile up his voter base, and that there was no legal grounds if the FBI refused to even recommend charges to prosecution.

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>>32140312
>Israeli public radio said the purchase will come under the US military aid programme - in September, President Barack Obama signed off on a 10-year military aid package for Israel worth $38bn - the largest in US history.

Pfahahahaha. So in other words, US "foreign aid" subisidizing Lockheed-Martin. This is what an unfathomable pile of dogshit JSF is, you literally have to pay so Israel would "purchase" it.

>>32143554
If Israel didn't want them they wouldn't get them you fucking slob.

>>32143554
>he thinks the F-35 is shit
Fuck off Sprey.

>>32143583
Yes,the USA handed them over billions worth in technology
Israel owns you Buddy, you got kiked
>>32143594
Never said its shit
Its just lacking

>>32143603
>Israel owns you Buddy, you got kiked
>Implying Israel hasn't been our combat proving grounds for new fighters since the F-15 in the 70s

>Its just lacking
In what, exactly?

>>32143603
>unfathomable pile of dogshit JSF is
>Never said it's shit

Come on now.

It's lacking compared to what ?

>>32143616
>>32143621

Jesus you guys really get triggered when somebody criticises the f35 In any way
Are you a Lockheed shill/employe?

Tell me:what is the f35 good at that other options don't surpass

>>32143640
>F-35 is good at that other options don't surpass

War.

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>>32143679
Jets from the 80's can do the same
Try harder f35 fanboy

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>>32143603
I'd like to interject with Donald Trump's first 100 days plan that includes provisions for making it harder for said foreigners to influence the American government.

>>32143700
>>32143640

So there's this concept, called multirole.

What can the F35 do better than fighter jets from the 80's?

Literally everything.

What aircraft is actually better than the F35 when it comes to Stealth, air to air, interception, ect?

The Raptor.

>>32143640
>Tell me:what is the f35 good at that other options don't surpass

>Similar but more flexible payload than the F-117 in full stealth
>Can actually carry an F-16's load into denied airspace
>In permissive airspace only fighter with greater payload is the Strike Eagle
>Only fighter that has a greater combat radius is, again, the Strike Eagle
>No other fighter has the EO-DAS system, which automatically scans for, IDs, and tags ground and air targets
>EO-TS provides excellent sniper pod capability without taking up a hard point
>Better High Alpha than a Hornet with nearly as good energy recovery as a Viper
>Flies what is easily the most advanced passive RF sensor suite
>Most comprehensive, high-bandwidth communications suite of any fighter
>Will be ~$20m less than Eurocanards

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>>32143616
>>Israel owns you Buddy, you got kiked

Did you miss the part where every GOP primary candidate was bending over backwards to please some Israeli fuckwads?

Israel is a foreign country that no one gives a fuck about--maybe the 1% of the population that is actually Jewish.

>>32143700
You're also posting the bingo page making fun of your position anon. The critics are usually completely unaware of what a combat aircraft does. Use of bogus sources, inaccurate information, propaganda, ect.

>>32143736
Don't you have a Holocaust denial thread on /pol/ to shitpost in?

Yes, Israel is troublesome, but they're useful to US foreign policy.

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>>32143700
m8 have you even read that bingo card? It's mocking your arguments not supporting them

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>>32143759
Domestically they are a fucking cancer, foreign influence in domestic politics is a bad thing, considering it's the USA.

>>32142441
>>32143032

Most of the "secrets" Israel sold were from mainland European countries who are not buying the F-35. The only European country that is buying them is England, who wasn't part of the scandal.

Israel knows not to bite the hand that feeds but they cut as close as they can.

At the height of the "F-35 is a turkey" craze, Israeli politicians wanted the F-15SE. Sanity prevailed.
The 5th-gen hype is real, and countries like Canada are only gimping their future force development.

>>32143554

I'd wreck her shit so hard.

>>32143760
Wait, tomatoes aren't fruit?

>>32143826
>The only European country that is buying them is England,

>Denmark
>Italy
>Netherlands
>Norway
>UK

>>32143826
Yea and what was 9/11 then? Or the huge jew lobbies in US government? Or the million other times where jews did something to harm the US/whites

>>32143736
>Israel is a foreign country that no one gives a fuck about--maybe the 1% of the population that is actually Jewish.

Lots of fundamentalist Christians see Israel's survival as important, since they believe it'll play an important role in the end times. That's why the Republicans make sure to pander to Israel.

>>32143734
[Citation needed]
>>32143760
>>32143751
>>32143734
>wanting the down version of the raptor
You guys will defend anything

>>32143840
They are. But for culinary purposes they are classed as a vegetable. A lot of "vegetables" are fruit, like any gourds, squashes, eggplants, and so on. Basically if they're the fertilized seed distribution vessels they're a fruit.

Most cabbage family stuff like cabbage, broccoli, kohlrabi, and so on are leaf/floret/stem edible items.

Carrots/radish/etc are edible roots.

Potatoes are tubers, and technically se4parate from the actual roots. Same with peanuts.

Grain plants are actually pure seed producers, the seeds happen to have a very high starch content compared to other plant types.

>>32143881
>Shit you can look up anywhere
>[Citation needed]

Good to know you haters are still fucking retarded.

>>32143858
how big is that demographic, really?

>>32143858
ISIS also thinks drawing the Western Crusaders into Syria is critical, that in Dabiq Allah will erase their armies as part of the end times.

>>32142950
>>32142441

Well its the F-16 of today, so its going to become 'open" eventually.

Shits getting shipped everywhere.

The fact that the US DoD is 100% ok with this tech proliferating should be scary to everyone else.

>>32143923
There's portions of the F-35 that's still black boxes to the countries buying it, and as we've seen with China on their 5th-gen designs, even if you get the information, it's another issue implementing it.

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>>32142076
Oh yeah?

Remember when the Jews lost in '12 and '13?

You can thank every Not-A-Jew congressman for that.

>>32143948
Not to mention, by the time you finish figuring it out, they've already released another few block or increment updates or upgrades.

>>32143948
Oh so they needed more samples to reverse engineer it?

Well this purchase makes more sense then.

>>32143967
China could have all the information in the world. They don't have the tech, the expertise, or the industry to implement it as well or on the scale as we do.

>>32142950
Knowing how to make something and actually being able to make something are completely different things nowadays...

Maybe if Israel also sold China critical components, seeing as how they have assembly plant.

>>32143948
>There's portions of the F-35 that's still black boxes to the countries buying it

Of course, but nobody expects it to stay that way.

>and as we've seen with China on their 5th-gen designs, even if you get the information, it's another issue implementing it.

A valid point, but its better to have information and work on the technical know how to get that information useable, than to need both.

The dod is 100% ok with this tech proliferateing, they were not 20 years ago with the f-22.

This means they got some shit in a bag we dont know about.

>>32144020
>This means they got some shit in a bag we dont know about.

Or that they are retards.

>>32144050
>assuming the entire pentagon is retarded

They were right in the first offset, they were right in the second offset, there is no reason to think they will be wrong now.

>>32143854
/pol/ pls go

>>32143844

And the secrets Israel sold were from Germany and France.

>>32144007
>seeing as how they have assembly plant.
Israel's contribution is F-35A wings, HMD, and center fuselage composites. It's not a full production line.

>>32144020
Nobody is okay with tech proliferation. But everything is a risk. If DoD thought there was even a reasonable chance a party in the F-35 program would give sensitive information away, they wouldn't have been allowed on.
And tech like the F-35 is going to become more commonplace in a decade anyway. You want countries to buy US and give our allies a fighting chance against what's on the horizon, you need the F-35.
Israeli export controls were notoriously shoddy for many years, and it's possible the J-10 has Lavi in it. But given that they refused an offer from Russia to not export the S-300 to Iran in exchange for drone tech, on the fear that the tech might make its way to China, imo it's clear they're willing to sacrifice security interests to keep their house in order, and have been traumatized by earlier experience.

>>32144076
good goy

>>32143983
This. Just as an example, if they found out what material was used to make the RAM, in no way does it give them any idea on how to mass produce it, how to apply it, how to maintain it, what other solutions were discarded or are already being researched and so on.

These might not seem like much, but quite often building something is more of a challenge than designing it.

For example, China now produces casts of different metals for many companies, but problems that hadn't even appeared anywhere for many decades are starting to reappear, because the chinese don't know how to solve them, while the west has been doing so for a very long time.

>>32142441
I thought china already stole all of the f35 shit

>>32144106
How am I a goy? Last time I checked they're coming to US for a capability that they don't have. Which would make me the opposite of a goy. Also, you sat there saying the F-35 is a pile of crap, any (stupid) reason in particular why you think that?

>>32142441
We're selling them to TURKEY. Yes, the same Turkey that is getting buddy buddy with the Russians. Israel is the least of our concerns.

>>32145120
>Yes, the same Turkey that is getting buddy buddy with the Russian

t. RT writer

>>32145060
Not even close.

>>32145120
>Turkey
>Buddy-buddy with Russia after the shoot-down

>>32145132
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/11/world/europe/turkey-russia-vladimir-putin-recep-tayyip-erdogan.html?_r=0
http://tass.com/politics/915128

Yes, the second one is from a Russian site, but all it has is the information that the meeting will be taking place.

Ever since the coup attempt, Erdogan has been slowly aligning himself more closely with Russia and away from the West. You'd have to not pay any attention whatsoever in order to not see that.

>>32142441
Well, China already has the J-20 and FC-31... Which arguably were built using stolen tech.

And the J-10 was built after the lavi plans, which was a delta wing canards derivative of the F-16.

So, yeah.

>>32145150
Yes, actually. Surprising how that changes. But no, you'll meme at me and ignore what's right in front of your face.

>>32145180
>routine meeting

You tried.

>>32143554
>38Bn$

or 3.8bn a year.

The TOTAL belgian military budget is about 4.5 billions a year.

Belgium is buying the F-35

Where is the american military aid to Belgium ?

in b4
>OY VEY GOYIM !

>>32145217
>not reading the rest of the article
>not seeing that it literally says that both nations are warming up to each other
Mate, I know this is complicated for you, but let's look at it this way. Erdogan has been at odds with the US with how it is handling Syria. He is facing increased pressure from us because of that. Then, what he perceives as a pro-western coup is attempted. No shit that he's aligning himself closer with Russia.

But sure, continue to say that the most important part of Russian-Turkish relations was an aircraft shootdown and ignore the writing on the wall.

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>>32143902
Not the guy you answered to but thanks for the insight anon

>>32145265
>Then, what he perceives as a pro-western coup is attempted.
That a lot of Turks and most of the world saw as staged so Erdogan could purge his dissenters and tighten his power base.

>>32145265
>they had a routine meeting
>this means that relations are warming

You really tried.

>>32145265
Well, first off he most likely orchestrated the coup himself considering how poorly it was planned. Also, he seeks to mend ties because a large part of Turkey's economy is reliant on tourism, specifically Russian tourism.

At this point Russian is a sinking ship, it would be wise to mend tie to remain cordial but not actually throw down with them.

>>32145291
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/08/erdogan-travels-russia-reset-relations-160809032238975.html
>Erdogan said that Turkey was entering a "very different period" in relations with Russia, and that solidarity between the two countries would help the resolution of regional problems.

Yep. You sure got me. Ignore literally the entire page, and the next article as well.

>>32143700
Inferior bingo

>>32145289
I doubt it was staged, but he certainly used it as an excuse to purge dissenters.

>>32145305
>aj

Wew

>>32140433
No, they're paid for by foreign aid, which is in fact the MIC jewing the US gov into subsidizing them as an industry.

>>32145344
Right, memes instead of proper responses, just as I said you would. Ignore the quote, it's obviously fabricated.

>>32143583
Israel wanted to get new F-15s 10 years ago but were denied. The US wants them to use and test it so the rest of the world sees a "used by Israel" stamp of approval.

>>32143967
>needed more samples to reverse engineer it?
I don't think you understand how any of this works.

>>32144100
>wings, HMD, and center fuselage composites
I'd like to add:
>HMD
Literally Israeli tech, developed by Elbit. It's theirs to do whatever they want.
>wings and fuselage
Composite aircraft construction isn't exactly bleeding edge, and so there's nothing all that sensitive there. Even if there was, it's known that the Chins stole several terabytes of info on the thing, the Israelis probably don't have anything the Chinese don't already know.

>>32144106
Oh wow this totally proves you right.
/pol/ go and stay go.

>>32140312

>Israel orders

So, that means America gets billed for 17 more aircraft?

>>32145218
Israel gets money because unlike the rest of the world, bribes there get results. The Americans give 3.8 billion and get impressive influence on the Israeli government and foreign affairs; guaranteed return on investment. The Belgians have nothing to offer that he Israelis want, and if they'd get foreign aid they'd just use it to cut back their own defense budget.
And places like Iraq or Egypt take US money and equipment and ignore US 'requests'.

>>32145473
More accurately it comes out of the money we already sent them.

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>>32145494
Pretty much this.
If the US gave $3.1 billion in vouchers to any country it wished in return for aligning on most "filler" issues and even some core ones, as well as situating production lines in the US for guaranteed investment down the line and tech transfer to US subsidiaries, it's a deal we'd be making across the planet with pretty much everyone.
Fact is, even when we give aid, it usually doesn't translate into such huge commitments, politically or economically. But with the Israelis it does, so we keep doing it. Them being a liberal democracy with a population in love with the US is just icing on the cake.

>>32142950
China already stole all of the F-35 docs years ago...

>>32143910
Pretty fucking big, almost all of the deep south and a lot of the midwest.

>>32143854

The number of ISIS-tards who pose as american white supremacist Americans is hilarious. Though it isn't nearly as bad as it was last year.

>>32143858

It's also that, you know, the middle east is extremely important for geostrategic reasons and Israel is our most powerful and reliable ally there. Or would you have it that Turkey is our closest and only ally there? Or perhaps Saudi Arabia?

Also, Israel and Egypt have been getting a couple of billion dollars of aid money every year since Camp David. About 3-4 billion right now, which is way more than anybody else, obviously, but still not huge for America. That "new" money that Obama signed is just a continuation of the usual aid. Stipulations and restrictions mean that they end up spending most of it back in the US.

So really it's a bass ackwards US industrial/defense subsidy combined with rent on the world's largest aircraft carrier in the world's most strategic region. Oh, and they conduct missions for us like destroying Iraq's nuclear program in the 80's-- we got to publicly condemn them and then privately celebrate that somebody did it and our hands were kept clean. They've been helping us with cyberwarfare operations as well--useful because they have a lot of good IT people and we've been using the spin-offs to defend from operations out of Russia and china.

So there's basically lots of good policy reasons for the US / Israel alliance. I personally think that the US and Israel would both be better off if we phased out the aid money, but they'd still be critical regional allies.

Put Israel alongside Taiwan and (until this year) the Phillipines: a very, very tight relationship with a powerful but precarious country in a critical location. It gets prickly at times, but those F-35s will probably see more use in support of US interests than the ones the chairforce gets. Nowhere near as important an ally as Britain, of course, but what other country is?

>>32145585
Nice chart, saved.

>>32145682
Right, the old ass ones that didn't have much to them. Which explains why their copy is such crap.

>build plane with internal mounts because muh stealth

boy that sleek design probably enhances aerodynamics too

>incapable of supercruise

lol! Whats the point of going so slow?

>>32145084

"Goy" literally means "nation". In the bible, the term usually meant nations other than jews. It also used that term for the jews too. At the turn of the last century, it was sometimes used as a mild pejorative term for non-jews.

"Goyim" (nations) is the plural, but /pol/tards like to flagrantly misuse the word because it's a may-may.

So basically he called you a non-jew. Or, strictly speaking, someone who's a citizen of some nation or another.

>>32145120
>>32145132
>>32145150

I can't wait to hear someone try to argue that Turkey is a more reliable ally than Israel.

>>32145370
Its a meme of turkey, a nato member, becomeing "close" with russia

>>32145453
>Literally Israeli tech, developed by Elbit.

Litterally american tech, developed by rockwell collins.

>>32146124
Just being in NATO doesn't necessarily mean that their interests align with the US's.

>>32146163
but it instantly means they align with russians of all people

>>32146163
Being that they still have nukes, for the express purpose of boming russia, i would argue that because they are in nato it precludes them from being buddy buddy with them.

>>32146143
No, it's shared. VSI is a joint venture between Elbit and Rockwell.

>>32146143
Shit, turns out it's joint.
Sorry about that, I remembered Elbit was involved and they produce whole helmets for upgrading older jets, I mixed the two up.

>>32146220
*RCEVS, not VSI

>>32146220
Im well aware, but if we are memeing...

>>32146221
Elbit did the F-16 helmats and whatnot

>>32143291
Kek

>>32146124

Turkey distanced themselves from Israel and America. Then they got into a conflict with Russia and America didn't fully back them like they expected. Suddenly it occurred to them that they're alienating all their allies except ISIS.

Especially since Turkey has been purging its own pro-democracy elements (and returning to oppressing its ethnic minorities), it's now also politically vulnerable. Add to that the fact that they haven't been able to strengthen ties with Iran like they expected.

So Turkey is internally unstable and has maneuvered itself into diplomatic isolation. Meanwhile, it faces a regional power (russia) to its north, and depending on your definitions at least two shooting wars to its south. Plus a ton of uncertainty about whether the US or Russia will be the dominant power in the region.

So naturally they're quickly trying to back down and at least temporarily restore friendly(ish) relations with the US, Russia, and even Israel. It remains to be seen whether this is a temporary move while Ergodan consolidates his power or if he's legitimately backing away from it.

Confrontations with the US and Israel especially were popular with his domestic islamist allies, but didn't really serve any purpose as foreign policy in itself. The time to sever your alliances is when you have new allies to replace your old ones or when you have some compelling foreign policy objective and your allies are no longer necessary or would stand in your way. None of that's been true for turkey yet.

Their problem is that Israel and the US will oppose Ergodan's agenda and his takeover. Russia would be fine with him taking over, but would use the relationship to turn Turkey into a client state. So of your two potential options, one is a threat to Ergodan personally and one is a threat to Turkey as a whole.

So far, his strategy is to try to navigate between them.

>>32146310
>completely ignoreing the US airbases on turkish soil

Wew

>>32146391

How does that, or any other element of our NATO relationship, change anything I wrote?

>>32146173
It doesn't instantly mean anything.

>>32146176
They don't have nukes. They have US bases on their soil and those bases have nukes. And it seems that it doesn't prevent them from being buddy buddy with Russia, because that's literally what they're doing right now. Russian and Turkish interests align at the moment. Is there something wrong with that?

>>32146402
It equates turkish nato/russian relations when they are anything but equal.

>>32146413
>because that's literally what they're doing right now

RT pls...

>>32146428
Mate, I provided you with a multitude of links from a variety of sources. You can continue to stick your head in the sand and imagine the situation isn't more complex than you imagine it, or you can actually learn something and not be a trolling fucktard.

>>32145370
If the the Qatari ministry of truth claims anything you should immediately assume it's a lie. In this case there is a quote "very different period" that you can find elsewhere. Just quote those other places. Don't quote the propaganda engine of a slaver state.

>>32145953
No, I know what it means but it's mainly used as an insult (/pol/ anyone?) to mark someone as inferior to Jews (or at least oblivious to the world around them) and therefore easily pliable in regards to Israel getting what they want. I'm telling him it's them coming to us on our terms, so if anyone is Jewing anybody its the US Jewing the Israelis.

He's just an anti-Semite. Fucking stormfront i swear, years ago they just posted on their own sites. Now its spread to /k/ and /tv/ as well. let's hope we can hold the line at /po/.

>>32146415

Diplomacy isn't usually a series of radical convulsions. A typical diplomatic re-alignment is a gradual process of symbolism and substantive change, heavily mixed with misdirection and head-fakes.

Turkey didn't drop out of NATO, but you're a fool if you think that things haven't changed significantly since Ergodan took power. Right now, Turkey's been trying to distance itself from its closest allies. That distancing is on-again and (right now) off-again.

Meanwhile, Russia is an important trade power and also a major threat. After an abortive attempt to confront them (shooting down that plane was the end of a very long process where the Russians were intentionally provoking the Turks for precisely these reasons), they're now playing with a conciliatory tack.

Even with US/Turkish tensions at its highest, had Russia simply invaded Turkey, NATO would have been invoked and a war immediately started. So in that sense the alliance is still there. But Ergodan's work to chill relations with the US, and US frustration at Ergodan's domestic and foreign policies, means that in an ambiguous situation like the shoot-down, the US had some discretion about how and how much it would respond. Ergodan felt that, despite all he'd done, the situation was clear enough that America would confront Russia over this. Instead, we kind of left them hanging.

Some of it is Obama and his policies and personality as well. His policies have been kind of weak and naive. That worked in Ergodan's favor... right up until he needed the US to send an aggressive and resolute sign to Russia. When we didn't show up, that when he's made some gestures of reconciliation.

>>32146512
Or you could look at what was written and look to see if the direct quotes mean anything to you instead of just dismissing it out of hand. Or if you're so very upset about AJ, just fucking look up the information in it yourself. Take the quote and start looking to see if anyone else has it.

I was going to post a number of links, but it appears like 4chan thinks they're all spam. As such, google "Russia Turkey Erdogan very different period". That should give you enough news sources that you can satiate yourself with.

>>32146537

They have a lot of help lately. Last year it was much worse. You had a ton of ISIS supporters posing as white nationalists online.

That's when the party lines were "let the kurds and ISIS kill each other" (because neutrality was better than the alternative of us supporting the Kurds). They figure that /pol/ are useful idiots. Hating Jews is something they're into to begin with; add the fact that they're a major threat to ISIS and of course they'll egg on anybody against them. What's better than having your enemies fighting one another?

In fairness, they're pretty active drumming up left-wing anti-war sentiment, too. For the same reasons.

I found a couple cases on other sites where they were pushing the superiority of the german "aryan" race, but then when you looked up their social network accounts they turned out to be arabs. Ironically, ISIS is of course enemies with the real aryans, the Shiites of Iran.

And /pol/ in general is in the middle of a sustained invasion of several boards right now. The SJWs were doing this last year, and now it's /pol/tard's turn.

>>32146491
its seams its you the one who cant comprehend this more complex situation (as you call it )

those fucking links are showing willingness from both sides to normalize relations that just recently were in area of catastrophically bad

but in reality ruskies are in backyard of growing regional power with huge ambitions and those same ruskies support other side than turkey does

just because turks wants to resolve damn situation doesn't mean they are in bed with russians now

witch is hilarious as russians were the ones who destroyed previously good relations with half as approach to this conflict

but hey, if they don't openly want to kill, relations must be great - Russian foreign policy 2016

>>32145953
And the term "negro" is just "black" in spanish. So when someone calls a black man "negro" he is just calling him "black" in another langage than his own.
I guess this shouldn't pose any problem right ?
Right ?
Oh wait ? It does ? Damn.
Go eat some foreskins rabbi.

>>32145923
>boy that sleek design probably enhances aerodynamics too
Quite the opposite in fact.

>>32145494
>The Americans give 3.8 billion and get impressive influence on the Israeli government and foreign affairs
No they don't. It's the opposite.
Did this "influence" halted colonization ? No. Did it halt the goal of a greater israel ? No.
The israeli became buddy buddy with the wahabis saudis on their own, and with the now full on islamists turks on their own too, not because of the US influence.

The US are throwing money around in the region to keep getting some economic returns from these countries and keeping them in check as well as they can regarding their own interrests.
Which is why after pushing the arab spring the US pushed backward and Egypt got Morsi then Al Sissi when the thing started to backfire. A wise move.

Which is also why Turkey is going wild but not attacking US interests in the region. Which is why every move from Israel in the 90's and 2000's was a blow to the US international posture and frankly a pain in the ass systematically.

Once, the former french president Sarkozy met Obama and told him "I'm fed up with Netanyahu, he's a liar." Obama answered : "You're fed up with him, but I have to deal with him even more often than you".

proof :
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-netanyahu-sarkozy-idUSTRE7A720120111108

So tell me again, what kind of influence are we talking about ? Influence on not blowing up Iran on their own ? That's not influence then, that's psych ward janitoring.

>>32146615
You can't even type properly, which is generally a sign you haven't the faintest clue what you're talking about.

The Turks are warming up to Russia at the same time they are having a cooling of relations with the US. It doesn't mean Turkey is in Russia's bed, but it does mean that they are in a very complicated situation wherein their allegiance doesn't belong to either nation, but rather to their own agenda. More accurately, Erdogan's agenda. At the moment, that agenda meshes better with what Russia is doing. As a result, doing something small like letting Russia look over one of the F-35s they will soon posses is definitely something we should be concerned about. Of course, they'd ask for a favor in return, but that doesn't change the fact that it is a quite real possibility.

>>32142076
>. If Israel buys them, then you know that it's good. Can't jew a jew.

LOL no, Israel is buying them to sell them later to China.

>>32146606
>You had a ton of ISIS supporters posing as white nationalists online.
That's a cute new excuse for why /pol/ is shit. It's not full of white supremacist ignorance and bigotry, it's actually jihadis pulling a false flag! kek

>>32146639
>And the term "negro" is just "black" in spanish. So when someone calls a black man "negro" he is just calling him "black" in another langage than his own.
>I guess this shouldn't pose any problem right ?

If you're speaking spanish at the time, no, it doesn't. And the word goy is in two languages, yiddish and hebrew, and means the same thing in both. So why so salty?

>>32146639
>Did this "influence" halted colonization ? No. Did it halt the goal of a greater israel ? No.

Ahhhhhhh, ok. Now I see who you are. OK, if you're going to pose as an american white nationalist, you should know that you're supposed to quote the (made up) Samson Doctrine, not that other stuff. Nobody outside of the Arabian Penninsula knows or cares about the "Greater Israel" meme. And only communists care about US oil companies having operations in the middle east.

For bystanders: Greater Israel is the theory that Israel's "real" goal is to conquer the entire middle east. The evidence for that is that the flag has two blue stripes on it, which is supposed to be the tigris and euphrates. Oh, and that Israel keeps winning wars with its neighbors, who were just minding their own business when the Israelis attacked them. The theory goes that at some future date, when the time is right, the Israelis will march out, sweep across the middle east, and conquer the whole thing. Therefore all attacks on Israel are really just pre-emptive defense. It's a VERY sneaky plan. :)

Basically, nobody outside the arab world believes or cares that QuikTrip opening a gas station in Oman constitutes WESTERN COLONIZATION REEEEEE!!!!! And much as white nationalists hate jews, they hate you guys too and don't care if you fight among yourselves.

So instead you need to imply that there's some convoluted sequence of events where Israel is going to nuke America as revenge for... um... something. At least then you sound like a real live white nationalist and not an ISIS false flag shill.

You're welcome.

>>32146639
>Go eat some foreskins rabbi.
>Did it halt the goal of a greater israel ? No.
Don't you have a newspaper article to comment at the bottom of?

>>32146735

Nah, the jihadis are taking a movement that already exists and is pretty... malleable... and trying to redirect their fervor towards something that serves the interests of their jihad. /pol/ isn't ENTIRELY or even mostly ISIS shills, but if you start looking up users on other forums that pose as /pol/ sympathizers, you'll notice that a suprising number are only backing stormfront because they think it's good for ISIS. There was a big wave of this last year, probably because ISIS was doing so well at the time.

It's no different from what george Soros does for the left or what russia does for its own ends. Welcome to 4chan, where this happens quite a bit.

>>32146798
Brah, white nationalists and jihadists are both sexually frustrated social rejects.

They think the same way because they come from the same source.

>>32146798
You know, that does make me wonder how many of the 'why don't you like muslims /pol/? they're redpilled and traditional' threads are in earnest and how many are trolls/liberals tring to make them think.

>>32146836

Ok good point.

>>32146771
LMAO the guy you're talking to is an idiot
>Be in the midst of the Arab Spring
>General the Arabs are at their weakest since the time after the Six Day War, should we attack now while they're down and seize the clay that is rightfully ours?
>Nah.

>>32146836
I think the BBC did a piece about this, it was really interesting to see the parallels between Islamic group supporters and white supremacists/literal Nazis and their lack of sexual experience. There was even an interview where some kid joined ISIS because he would be able to lose his virginity because they allow sex slaves.

>>32146836
It took me a while, but I realized the same thing.
All the profiles for these neo-nazi Turner-Diary types and ISIS-inspired mass shooters in the US follow the same pattern; unhappy losers who were looking for a way out.

>>32146836
>>32146842
>Heh so true. I remember years ago there was one of the talking heads commenting on how a bunch of the jihadis we had prisoner were complaining about being shown pictures of naked women. And how they learned that most of them were in fact virgins.

So basically they're /r9k/, which is /pol/'s younger cousin.