Where were you when you learned the AR15 is far more reliable

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>>32139354
Iraq.

where did this myth come from? the history channel?

>>32139388
AR15 mud test
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAneTFiz5WU
and AK mud test
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DX73uXs3xGU

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>>32139388
Vietnam GIs and numerous military & civilian tests throughout the history.

I dare you to drop even one pebble into the chamber or gas-port of AR, and try to use it afterwards. Not to mention one essential spring of the entire rifle is in the goddamn buttstock??

>>32139442
you can stop shilling your biased vids already.

>>32139442
Not just those bro.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=synlZgnTnXg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSizVpfqFtw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlL-uRkJ0yA

>>32139454
>drop a pebble into chamber or gas-port

FUCKING KEK!

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>>32139454
>butthurt AK faggot

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>>32139354
Where I really want to know is where I'll be when numbers of AR platform rifles produced outnumbers AKs.

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>>32139500
>AK owners
>butthurt
Pick one. At least our rifles do not EXPLODE if exposed to bit of water, jam because of wrong kind of powder in cartridges, and create catastrophic double-feed failures.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWygoxV_ApM

>>32139500
>all this AR-kid delusions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8MCiixMZGY

>>32139540
>>32139540
Faulty reloads =/= problem with the rifle.

Here's your precious Kalashnikov tearing itself to pieces for the same reason. Guess you were wrong...as fuck.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVXeNC15AlQ

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This thread...

>>32139354
lies

>>32139540
I don't get it, bad load? or a squib? whats the point?
>>32139603
who would a thought direct impingement while fully submerged is a bad idea?

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>>32139603
>jihadi micro AK + sandniggeristan explosive ammo = totally on par with military and commercial stuff

>>32139540
>our rifles do not EXPLODE if exposed to bit of water, jam because of wrong kind of powder in cartridges, and create catastrophic double-feed failures
Yeah they do. All of those things.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aIP4yZOcWU

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>>32139354

>same tired old memes being recycled endlessly

I guess nobody can blame AR babbies for taking it this far after suffering literal decades of harassment

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>>32139354
Youve obviously never had to use EITHER in a real "Oh shit" situation.

Ive used my M4 in Afghanistan for 2 depoyment. I now own both an AR and AK platform.
>The AK is a superior weapon in demanding conditions

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>>32139475
>>32139442
>these proofs

>MFW I don't have a dog in this fight, but I know what rifle to buy

>>32139540
>>32139603

>meanwhile inna woods

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j39DYJEJ9i8

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>>32139354
I'm actually not a poor fag. So I have both.

If you can always clean your AR it's as reliable as a dirty AK.

If.

>>32139454
The whole reason the ar-15 is better is because the rock doesn't get into the gun because the tolerances are tighter. You're never going to get anything into an air tight gas port unless you put it there.

>>32139354
>after 60 years of development the AR15 is finally reliable
wew lad about time

it's a shame that stoner didn't live long enough to witness this

if noguns were banned off /k/ we would never have these threads

if you treat your rifle like shit, it won't fucking work. AKs and ARs are known for being reliable. if you try to make them fuck up, they'll fuck up. AKs are different than ARs, so obviously they'll work better or worse in different conditions.

>>32139675
You realize that service guns are in terrible conditions the second you get them because other retards have abused them? A middle eastern AKM you got from some tuskan raider, while old, has been buried in the ground since the cold war or even larger in very dry conditions. It might as well just be brand new.

>>32139809
>if noguns were banned off /k/ we would never have these threads

We wouldnt have any threads

>>32139809
if /k/ would adopt flags it would cut down on the shitposts by 80% since we could finally ignore nogunz counties and call them out for being the cucks they are

>>32139731
Hmm...that's not what the proofs say.

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>>32139354

One video from a youtube channel and it's science, hahah. If it were the other way around you would be defending the AR until someone did a comprehensive military study or some shit.

What I do know is that the AK is more reliable in all other cases. I haven't tried dumping my guns into a wheelborrow full of mud yet, perhaps next time I go to the range...

>>32139574
Why not piston AR?

The reason it failed was because the water that was caught in the gas tube and any piston would alleviate that problem (hence the AK passed.)

>>32139354
All these tests were done using most american made aks, if you watch iraqvets melt down vids, the Russian veprs btfo american shit, i have a valmet m78, and i got to stop working, after i put several handfuls of dirt in the bolt/chamber area, it only took ~7 seconds disassemble, clean, and re assemble, had an ar experienced the same failure you wouldnt be able to get it running as quickly

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None of these guns can be broken into two equal pieces like this rock and still work! Hence, the caveman had the most reliable and durable weapon ever made! It even works underwater!

>>32139500
lol

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>>32139354
Sks is superior

>>32139957
VEPRs are fundamentally different than even other Russian AKs. They are built like RPKs.

/k/ is by far the easiest board to shitpost on

I easily have 3 shitposts at day on /k/ that get up over 100 replies

I love /k/

Its filled with the biggest retards on all of 4chan

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>>32139981
And rpks are amazing. Yes i know my floor is shit its better than dirt

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>>32139917

No reason a piston AR is not viable. I think piston ARs are an improvement, if properly executed, but stonerfags disagree. Mainly because muh-ounces-equllllll-pounds, rifle-is-fine mentality. I have like 5 AR lowers, I think I'll get a piston upper to try out.

>>32139354
>not knowing the AR-18 is undoubtedly the best

>>32139981

I think for it to have any meaning they need to be compared at different price levels. I'm an AK guy, but I think they are WAYYYY over priced, lets hope that changes. At $700 or less, an AR is probably a better gun. They are just a bargain. Over that and AK quality really picks up, but that's a lot to me given their historical cost and ergonomic/modularity drawbacks.

In America, the AR is the smart choice for reasons other than reliability. IMHO

>>32139354
Holed up in my bedroom on /k/ where else would I be you shitlord

>>32139962
Stick is better. Stick has better accuracy and can stab. Rock has horrible accuracy and still sink in water.

>>32140161
Rock can stab too! Rock doesn't need Accuracy at close range!

>>32140206
stabbing rock very rare. sharp stick on any tree.

>>32140206
Yes it does! Rocks accuracy is completely dependent on user. Stick is WAY easier to handle. Your wife can hit something with a stick easier than a rock. It's super user friendly. Plus you have to shape a rock to stab. A stick comes stock with stabbing abilities.

>>32140254
>>32140252

Only if stick is straight. Most stick not straight. It takes time to find stick that is straight without cutting it down. so you get stick straight as drunk uncle at thanks giving party without tough work.

>>32140324
Stick is easier to conceal than rock.

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>>32139454
> Fitting something into the ar gas port/system
Top Kek mate.
Come to think of it, I can't really think of a gun where this is even a remote concern.
Do you has gunz friend?

>>32140377
Just because you put stick in asshole, is not concealed. Rock hurt more when thrown, and bigger rock off cliff can kill mammoth! Try that with stick.

>>32140438
> Sharpen lots of sticks with /k/ave brothers
> Dig deep hole
> Fill with sharp sticks
> cover sticks with Doo Doo then you have assault sticks (some tribes no like, bad for meat, only good for wounding, will be bad for hunting some say)
> Cover hole
Wait and wait and you get something sometime
Stick ideas endless possibilities
Rock reliable , but limited.

>>32139354
Are you kidding me? The m16 was born with bad reliability and frequently jammed in vietnam, whereas the AK was designed with reliability in mind from the start; utilizing a roomy internal design and as little moving parts as possible.

>>32140773
>The m16 was born with bad reliability and frequently jammed in vietnam
So...the fact that this is not the case anymore means nothing?

There's no practical difference between them

>>32139850
yes it does.
these AR are lubricated as fuck. but when you run out of librocant your fucked.
in a zombie apocalypse you better have an ak

>>32140505
Are you the one ruining my name again?
There are serious consequences for that

>>32140991
>in a zombie apocalypse you better have an ak
Well memed friend. Are you from 2007?

>>32141073
its a fact that ARs only jam without libtication. Even wikipedia says so. And good luck finding special gun-lubricant during a zombie apocalypse or harsh times.
The US Army can afford ARs because they have the money and time to buy tones of lubricant

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>>32141177
>>32140991
>zombies

Where were you when gun culture got cancer?

>>32139354
Iraq... We were both surprised... I still am. He isn't.

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>>32141177
>Even wikipedia says so
hows that working out for you?

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>>32141011
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>>32141177
What is synthetic motor oil?

does it really matter or is this horse not dead enough
they're both loud shooty sticks designed to chuck lots of bits of metal at people at high speeds
an small increase/decrease in the failure rate of the weapon won't make the enemy any less dead, just luckier

>>32139454
>I dare you to drop even one pebble into the chamber or gas-port of AR, and try to use it afterwards.

But why would I do that?

>>32141073
>>32141204
>>32141219
Iraq veterans needed to relubricate their M-4s several times during a patrol, even when no shots were fired.

>>32141219
And heres what wikipedia says: "The direct gas impingement system sometimes caused rapid overheating of the bolt carrier assembly with combustion residue reducing self-loading reliability after firing as few as (200) rounds. This basic design flaw also renders the AR-15 unreliable except in "range-clean" condition."

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>>32141011
wanna fight about it m8?

>>32139354
The AR is better sealer and built with smaller tolerances/clearings. This prevents junk from entering too easily, though it has the drawback that once shit has entered, it takes much longer to put the weapon back into action. With the AK it's basically: pop up the dust cover, rinse the interior with your canteen, shake the rifle, put dust cover back on and you're good to go. With the AR you have to fieldstrip the rifle, take the bolt apart, clean everything with your toothbrush, lubricate the bolt, put everything back together and you're good to go.

MAC had torture tested an AR and an AK. The AK was more reliable.
Aregularguy had torture tested an AR, a Tavor and an AK. The AK was the most reliable.

>>32139475
>This much cherry picking

Meanwhile he made another test where the AK fired more rounds than than the ar 15.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwSJiAwoMpY

A bullet is the same in every language

>>32139354

>A gun that is effectively WWII tech is outperformed by one designed more than a decade later

Colour me unsurprised

Both rifles are great for what they are, and most likely won't be replaced by anything anytime soon given how much of a pain it'd be to replace the million AK/AR pattern rifles in Slavistan/Burgerland

>>32140944
They're still made the same, aren't they?

I will never understand these pissing contests, each platform is good in their own respects, its honestly worse than console wars on /v/.

>>32141318
>Iraq veterans needed to relubricate their M-4s several times during a patrol, even when no shots were fired.

Do you want to source that or just keep talking out of your cavernous asshole?

>>32141318
This is a troll, do not reply

>>32140773
More moving parts in an AK m80

>>32140012
Most hate it because it ruins your buffer tube you mong.

>>32139957
The dirt would not get in the AR. Better system

>>32139962
Cavemen. Australopiths. Totally the same thing.

>>32142176
no. and they weren't using the right powder/ammunition, thats what fucked up their shit in nam

>>32139454
>drop even one pebble into the chamber
>try to use it afterwards

Show me a rifle that will work with a pebble in the chamber. I'll wait.

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>>32142424

>>32139539
I think AK pattern rifles have topped 50,000,000. So it will probably never happen.

>>32139861
>indian_operators_street_sweeping_mumbai_attacks.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4u8j8rwvfug

>>32141827
>heavy barrel because the standard one failed sooner than the ARs

AK fanboys sure are desperate.

>>32141222
What aggravates me more than anything about this pasta is
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>go
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Guerilla
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Fuck

>>32143036

That's the point, you autistic fucknugget.

>>32142973
I even prefer AR-15s and that video was fucking retarded.

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>>32139354
Never forget when the FAL crapped out and the $600 C308 shit kept on trucking.

>>32141011
>insert navy seal copypasta

>>32139354
I was watching a video of that poor Marine whose AR kept jamming as they were being fired at in Afghanistan.

>>32143915
>calls it an anonymous website
>still namefagging
The hypocracy is palpable.

>>32144790
It's because he didn't lubricate it enough. It's his fault, not AR's fault

what can be used innawoods to lubricate my AR15?

>>32142973
why is r lee army so retarded

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>>32139354
Iraq, only the M4 jammed all the damn time the AK rarely failed

>>32139641
>century arms
found the problem

>>32143486
The C308 did jam, although I will agree that it kept trucking because that is how the C308 performs when it's clean

>AK vs AR kiddies arguing again
>forgetting glorious roller delayed blowback G3 is more reliable than either of them and shoots a real man's round

>>32142927
Underrated post

>>32146545
>being this mad no one has cared about your rifle in 30+ years

>>32146545
even hk gave up on it

>>32139838
Yeah Orange County can fuck off outta here, same goes for Suffolk and Wessex

>>32140252
>rare
This fucking homo habilis doesn't even know how to knap

>>32139731
>can't take thirty fucking seconds to rapid field clean an M4

turn your fucking trip off, shithead

>>32145979
Animal fat
Lol jk I don't think that will work.
Shoot a cars engine block and just lineup with what leaks out