/meg/

First for I have nothing interesting to say

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I'm a 22 year old Brit. Feeling worthless but also nationalistic. I have a BSc in Sound Technology.

Anything I would be decent at?

I'm no electrical engineer. More production/post production/advanced audio editing and cleaning

>>32123179
A photo of the average enlistedfag family, the father is age 24 and too stupid to realize his life is already ruined.

>>32123258
You obviously aren't military. No one in the military is self-aware enough to say this.

>>32123302
If you join the US military (you can, its a pain in the ass but you can) they have MOS's right up your fucking alley bro

>>32123340
But he will still have more evolutionary success than u.

Is working for the DoD the same as working for armed forces?

I do I still get muh Commissary?

I want to do Intel work

>>32123498
You probably won't be able to do Intel work in the dod without having been in the military first. Most people you will be working with will be prior military intel

>>32123498
Former Armyfag and DOD Civilian here
>muh commissary
only if you are deployed overseas
>muh px
see above
>muh SGLI
nope
>muh free medical
no
>muh free dental
>nope
>muh free anything
they throw picnics and shit but you have to pay for benefits that military doesn't
what you do get:
>solid paycheck
>amazing experience working in higher echelons
>may have soldiers working under you, including officers
>no bullshit "hey you" details
>hard to get fired (union job)
>locality pay on top of your salary
>if you dont want to deploy to some third world shithole, you don't really have to

>>32123496
lolwat? Dependopotamuses always suck the life out of their husbands and then take his kids away, leaving him to kill himself.

Any retard that gets married before they're old enough to rent a car deserves exactly what they get.

>>32123526
Ahhhh I see.
Understandable.

>>32123544
No free stuff anymore got it.

Im riding on the coattails of my father's Lt Colonel career and retirement benefits. Was hoping I could do the same for my family with DoD. Oh well. If I want it that bad ill do chair force for being an elite cyber warrior (tm)

I'll still shoot for DoD. Thanks guys

Is anyone here in the RAF? Do you know what its like?

>>32123595
Let me expand
>if you want to work for DoD, you don't HAVE to join the military but it certainly helps. It would be your best shot to join the military. So do that. Seriously.
>Nobody cares that your dad was a field grade officer.
>DoD will definitely give you good retirement benefits (TSP, pension). In addition to veteran benefits, shit is fucking tits.
>

>>32123486
Only the US? I have no problems with America. I would love to live there. Just I would want to do it for my country.

Any routes into US military though?

>>32123625
its like the USAF, except way more....um....English.... I guess.

>>32123643
>Go to US
>See recruiter
>recruiter tells you what you neeed to do to get green card
> do that, get green card
> enlist

>>32123595
Chair Force Intel Analyst here. 1N051. Loved my job. Hated being in the Air Force. Did my 4 and then let my clearance expire while trying college. I really regret not just going straight into an Intel contractor job.

I highly suggest doing 4 or 8 years, then getting out and becoming a contractor in the same field. Better pay and your not subject to the typical military bullshit.

Cyber is also a very good option. Any idea on what specific AFSC your shooting for?

>>32123654
>more....um....English....
You talk like a fucking chick. Are you an airfag? How goes the holiday party?

>>32123566

you act like officers are any better

they're either old men or assburger libcuck collegefags

>>32123674
I am a fucking chick. And no, I'm an Army recruiter.

>>32123696
are you getting paid to post here

>>32123705
On pass right now but, technically, yes.

>>32123696
>>32123729
tits or gtfo

>>32123747
go fuck yourself, here to answer /meg/ questions

>>32123179
>Le soulless husk family

Fuck. Would it kill him to get genetic screening? Obviously something is wrong.

>>32123775
Its the cunt wife. She gets off on all the attention for those two failed abortions

>>32123763
trap detected

>>32123792
not a trap, just a lesbian

>>32123799
Post girlfriend's tits then

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Repostan from last thread since no one answered:

What's life gonna be like as a 25U? If I go airborne will I likely end up in some high speed assignment? I just signed a 4 year AD contract as 25U but didn't want to wait around for an op. 4.

Also, how do I into 37F?

>>32123906
Get you:
Signal Support Systems Specialist is just a fancy way of saying "You will lay spools of wire everywhere."

You may do some high-speed shit but more than likely you'll be in some shitty S-6 shop at first.

>How do I into 37F?
Are you smart? If yes and you have no criminal shit than you should be able to enlist for it. It is in demand currently.

>>32123973
>You may do some high-speed shit but more than likely you'll be in some shitty S-6 shop at first.
What about being an RTO for some spoopy ops guys?

>Are you smart? If yes and you have no criminal shit than you should be able to enlist for it. It is in demand currently.
Unfortunately you can only enlist as 37F in the reserves and I wanted active duty. I'm just curious about what I'd need to achieve before I could put a packet in and hopefully reclass to that MOS.

How easy is it to move to the states for military reasons? An anon in this thread said that I would simply have to go talk to a recruiter but are there any online resources and information? I would like to know before I spend money on a ticket to America. In the end I would prefer to serve in the UK forces but that anon implied that there wasn't such a specialised route for me

What branch and job should should I be to get stationed in japan

If i want to become a doctor while I'm in the military which would be the best branch to join.

>>32124342
They will ask serious questions and probably view you as a liability. The problem is that you don't have a lot to lose by calling it a day after a few years, because you can just return to the UK. With a Mexican or a Guat or whatever else they're relying on them being a lot more committed to the process.

It would be far easier to join your own military, get an exchange program and go from there. It would look very good on any future green card or residency applications.

Easiest way is to marry an American. Second easiest is to do it illegally then wait (literally no one is going to think a white British guy is an illegal) for an amnesty. Third is through work. Unfortunately the way you have outlined is a massive gamble for the US military.

>>32124369
on a related note, I already have an MD. what's open to me in the military?

>>32123179
how do you have 4 of your 6 kids end up like this before you stop and think "maybe i should stop producing souless husks of human children that will die young and contribute nothing to society while costing me hundreds of thousands"

>>32124358
Join the Air Force and aim to fly bombers like the b-2 or fly bomber escorts

>>32124386
You want to be a doctor. Check Navy/Army/AF they all have doctor programs that also have residency programs, which would depend on what you are interested in. Navy and AF i'd presume as flight docs and everything. Navy flight docs even go through a bit of flight school from what i heard

>>32124390
It's only the two girls iirc. Two are from another family with kids like that. I think they each have a regular kid, the older one is with the two girls. Really fucking sad for the normal ones
Such a fucking burden from such selfish parents

>>32124403
Really? Thats piqued my interest all I have to do is ask a recruiter, right? Do I have to have a certain score on the asvab because I'm waiting on my results.

>>32123799
dubs confirm
post your gfs tits

>>32124390
>>32124451
Cmon you already know why. Theyre those super religious types. They say god blessed them blah blah blah these kids are miracles and all that shit.

>>32124481
Dude if you actually have an MD you should easily get a 99.

>>32123799
>not a trap, just a lesbian
Thats a weird way to say base whore

>>32124718
>you should easily get a 99
yeah I have to agree with you after I saw some sample questions. I haven't taken any tests yet, I'm just considering my options besides applying to civilian residency programs.

the guy you're replying to might be the aspiring pre-med who posted >>32124369

I'm a 24 year old high school dropout. Should I just join the army?

>>32124811
You can't join unless you get some college credits and your GED.

>>32123526
Categorically false. Most agency hires are just college grads, not former military.

>>32124811
I joined up when i fucked up my life and all relationships to my family when i was 20. HS dropout w/ GED (i'm not 100% sure you can get in with a GED anymore i was told i barely made that cutoff date going in)

left at 24 with a 20kmiles 2013 sedan paid for in cash and 30k in savings. it's a relatively easy way to basically put real life on hold for 3.5years and leave with some decent money, free college, basically a free job anywhere with vet status, and hopefully a fucking plan for yourself when you get back to real life.

don't get memed into national guard or combat arms - do some active duty POG shit where the MOS will actually get you a good job in civilian life (aka drone operator, logistics, anything with a real world equivalent where you'll make 10x more doing it when you get out)

pray you end up anywhere that isnt fort hood

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How do you beat the average age to a given rank?

O-2 (Lt): 25 (join + 18 months)
O-3 (Capt): 27 (join + 4 years)
O-4 (Major): 33 (join + 10 years)
O-5 (Lt.Col): 39 (join + 16 years)
O-6 (Col): 45 (join + 22 years)


Anything at or above O-7 is competitive, so there's no average age/time available.

The mandatory retirement age for all general officers is 62 (this can be deferred to age 64 in some cases, or indefinitely in the case of G.I. Joe). Under the law (10 USC, Sec 635), an officer who has been promoted to O-7, but is not on the recommended list to O-8, must retire five years after promotion to O-7, or 30 years of active duty service, whichever is later.

An O-8 must retire five years after being promoted to O-8, or 35 years of service, whichever is greater (10 USC, Sec 636).

The Secretary of the Service Concerned (ie, Secretary of the Army, Secretary of the Navy, Secretary of the Air Force) or the President of the United States, can defer the above mandatory retirements, up until the time that the officer reaches the age of 62 (10 USC, Sec 637).

>>32124718
I'm the other guy who wants to become a doctor, I wanna be the first in my family to go to college and become a doctor.

>>32124481
If you already have an MD, you should be talking to an officer or medical recruiter to be a doctor and go in as a captain. If you want to enlist and do other stuff then talk to a regular recruiter. ASVAB scores are taken at MEPS and I'm guessing you only need above a 110 or 130 for officer shit in GT scores for army anyway.

>>32125972
that's different, he already has an MD. If you have no college you need to figure out whether you want to enlist>undergrad paid for with GI bill>med school >doctor or undergrad>med school paid for with HPSP > military doctor

>>32124718
Yeah and they're milking those kids for pity too

>>32125150
Join sooner??? You can graduate early then go through OCS to commission

I'm trying to apply for the AROTC, NROTC, and AFROTC.

I have a GPA of 3.9 (weighted is 4.0), ACT of 28, have taken and am taking AP courses, am a part of multiple clubs and what not.

Any advice?

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Ausfag here

Commando direct entry or Officer school then apply for special forces selection?

>>32126106
Whats the difference would any hinder me? I want to help pay for my college through the army cause I'm a poor fag, I wouldn't mind being a military doctor though.

What's the 'unspoken rule' on going bald while in?

Shaving bald is efficient, saves time otherwise spent getting haircuts, has a sense of professionalism, there's nothing for the enemy to grab making it harder to slit your throat from behind or preform silent sentry removals, and it just looks damn good on some people.


How do NCOs/COs feel about this in different branches? Is it frowned upon and discouraged in some places due to people associating it with 'racial provocations'? Or does it really not matter? Will one branch take more or less notice than another?

>>32127437
Nobody's gonna think you're a skinhead

>>32127437
You really want to spend an extra 5 minutes shaving every single morning?

>>32126741
It's up to you. You can always enlist>go to college afterwards > med school with HPSP > military doctor and never pay for schooling. Of course you'd end up doing at least 8 years in the military.

>>32127627
I don't mind being in the military, it's not a bad place if you want to improve yourself. I could stay in the military or go into civilian life after 10 years idk.

>>32127491
After training, yes.

>>32126646
Commando direct if you're not a shithead you can go far as enlisted and going enlisted into officer looks amazing for cool spook jobs

>>32126367
Calm the fuck down I dropped out of high school now I'm a CTI. Don't worry about the future so much

>>32124811
Navy will take GEDs only for the warrior challenge program

>>32123696
>females in the army
Why? You know you can't carry a grown man for miles at a time, why would you endanger your comrades like that?

>>32126367
Did you come here looking for validation guy?

Considering becoming a 68W in the Army or Hospital Corpsman in the Navy. ASVAB scores are a non-issue, I qualify for basically every MOS. Is this a good MOS to pick? Is it in-demand? What MOS's should I have as back-ups? Any former 68Ws to share stories or give advice?

>>32128703
You watch too many movies.

CT vs IS

>>32124069
>What about being an RTO for some spoopy ops guys?
Sure, if you go to RASP and/or SFAS

>>32129127
>Considering becoming a 68W in the Army or Hospital Corpsman in the Navy.
Cool, good choice.
>ASVAB scores are a non-issue, I qualify for basically every MOS.
Sick....
>Is this a good MOS to pick?
Yes
> Is it in-demand?
IF it isnt now, it will be eventually.
> What MOS's should I have as back-ups? Aviation is cool.
>Any former 68Ws to share stories or give advice?
If you are a good doc, you will be treated like a God. Be as tough as the grunts you work with. You will be everyone's friend.

Or you could be a shit medic and get your ass handed to you constantly and be put in a CSH full of niggers and pregnant females....

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before you all shoot me for sounding like an idiot, just listen to my questions and answer them. as harshly as you wish.

can I enlist with an option 40 contract as a specialist?

>let's say I'm 21, 60 college credits
>including French fluency/travel and a Wilderness EMT certification
>martial arts background
>1st class secondary education
>have made money

basically I'm turning 21 next fall and I consider that the last "perfect" age to join up. I've also got things I need to do before then. I don't have much exposure to the military so that's why my resume might be totally irrelevant. I regret not doing this sooner so I'd want to have a higher rank at least if I do it now.

fire away boys.

Say you are able to meet the physical and education requirements to become a US officer with ease.
Say you want to become a fighter pilot because it's been your dream all your life.
What is the best, highest chance route to obtain that dream? What are the biggest obstacles you would have to break through?
Thanks

>>32129803
Not him but if I want to be a good medic im the military how do I start? I have about 6 months before I can join and im trying lose weight in order to join so far I'm down 30 pounds. What should I study to.prepare?

>>32130095
Some people just can't fly well. It could be you're one of those people, and you won't know until flight school so you get stuck flying tankers and transports

>>32129639
CT:
>????
>????
No one knows exactly what they do except hide in their shop.

IS:
> Make powerpoints
> Give briefings
> Drink coffee

As an IS you'll pretty much have a different job every duty station, they tend to get used as a jack-of-all trades rating.
About 1% of IS's do some pretty cool shit with expeditionary/riverine/SEALs/EOD, but expect to be a regular IS first.

tl;dr CTs are spergs

>>32130111
That would really suck. Are there any aptitudes that would be a good indicator for flight such as good hand eye coordination, ability to channel stress, that sort of thing? Or is it more on a technical level?

>>32130155
good hand eye coordination and the ability to channel stress are two things fighter pilots need, but I wouldn't say any one thing is a deciding factor. If you have a chance to go flying with an instructor, try that and see if flying feels natural to you. If you do that, don't worry if you feel a little sick, that's normal for everyone.

>>32130243
I'll certainly go do that if I can find one in my area. Wouldn't you need flight training first or is that on a per-instructor basis?

I've never had motion sickness from boats or rollercoaster so maybe that's a decent indicator of force tolerance. I guess I'll see and then I'll know.

>>32130303
*I forgot to ask, of all the branches which do you think would offer the best prospects?

>>32130353
Air Force has the most planes and from what I've heard, are currently understaffed when it comes to fighter pilots. The Navy is your second best bet, then Marines.

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what's it like being a cook/chef in the infantry?

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>>32130423
you cook stuff

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>>32130434
do they teach you how tho?

>>32130385
Not him but does it matter who you fly for? The Navy seems like it would be more grueling than the Air Force with ship landing and that stuff but the Air Force has places you can go to off-base but you're stuck on a ship in the Navy.

Also would it help to get placement in any role in a country if you speak that country's language?

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>>32130460
of course

if you sign up to be a cook, you will spend hardly any time at all with an infantry unit, most likely. You will just be working a low tier food service job at some chow hall/galley/whatever the other services call it.

>>32130496
damn, this sounds stupid but i'm kinda interested in becoming a cook in the army. can you give me a quick rundown of everything they do?

>>32130385
Alright, thanks man.
I should ask before I go to sleep, I always see that there is a testing section for officer legitimacy. How difficult is this test really? The description I read online says (for AF)
>The five-hour, 380-question test quizzes applicants on verbal analogies, math, instrument comprehension, aviation information and general science
Are there any websites or books to study specifics for this kind of test?

>>32130470
placement at bases overseas is mainly down to how well you perform in flight school, and if the base has the type of plane you wnat to fly. I don't think language comes into consideration much.
As for the Navy vs Air Force, it's really hard to tell. Very few people have ever flown for the Navy and Air Force, so there's no real objective voice on the matter.

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>>32130514
I can't really, i was a grunt in the Marines.

We only had cooks attach to us when we were deployed, and for them it was a pretty legit job- there was normally one (or two at most) who just was responsible for cooking/cleaning/keeping inventory and ordering resupply of food. it was a pretty easy job for them and we were all willing to help out(none of the people i have posted were actual cook mos, all infantry).

Stateside, there were food service guys attached to our battalion, but we(grunts) never saw them. they pretty much just worked at chow halls scrubbing pans or whatever the fuck they do. I knew a couple cooks that lived in the barracks, most of them hated it.

But if you like cooking/want to make that your career, it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world. My buddy that was the cook attached to my company on my first deployment ended up going to culinary school and has been the chef at a couple nice restaurants and does his own "pop-up" bbq type of thing in Cali now. So i dunno man, if its your cup of tea, go for it.

>>32130496
ainsley?

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>>32130582
oh yeah, here is another thing about being a cook, you ALWAYS get fucked on leave blocks(thanksgiving/xmas/etc). Cooks and MPs always get fucked on leave because those are the two base functions that pretty much never close.

Anybody here went through the navy's nuclear program? I'm a senior in high school who can't afford to go to college, and I want to get an engineering degree. Is the nuclear program a good option?

>>32130887
Yea but you're on a 6 year contract, keep that in mind (used to be 6, might even be 8 now). Also sub nukes are generally higher caliber people than surface nukes.

Frankly just get a short contract and use your GI Bill when you get out, doesn't matter what you did while you were in. I had an EE instructor who was signals in the army or something. You could be infantry and then get a physics degree like in The Forever War (good book btw).

>>32130154
Engineer?
>>32129639
All CTs are different. To the point where you gotta be specific about which one you wanna know about cause they work in different places and do different things on ships. That other anon is right about IS though. You're a glorified officer office bitch. Power points and briefings are it.

>>32130514
Actual cook here (Aus army though not US)
If you want to learn how to cook real food you're in the wrong place. I've worked with marine cooks and all they do is literally reheat pre cooked food from the states. We had them in our kitchens for a couple of weeks showing them how we did it, and I had to teach one how to make a bechamel sauce......

>>32131097
nobody gives a shit about your opinion

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Can anyone tell me the difference between Aus Commandos and Aus SASR? People tell me Commandos are shock troops and SASR are like deep recon/LRRP but I've been reading Mark Donaldsons book, and working alongside American Green Berets does not fit that SASR description. Cheers for any help.

>>32130887
>I'm a senior in high school who can't afford to go to college, and I want to get an engineering degree. Is the nuclear program a good option?

Yes. As a nuke you will be taking classes constantly. It is common for nukes to finish their first contract having earned most of the credits towards their engineering degrees. In some cases they finish their degrees and have started work on their masters.

>>32128703

>Implying that most people in the military don't work in an office.

Combat arms is a tiny minority, anon.

>>32131149
spotted the autist

>>32130385
You have the worst advice.

Navy is actually your best bet if you want to fly fighters specifically. Air Force has more fast movers, but a higher chance of being shunted into drone pilot.

Army has the most airframes and pilots. Easiest branch to fly in. No fighters though.

Marines are just shit tier for aviation, are you retarded?

>>32131727
This. And I was a grunt.

Sign this form for me please.

>>32130887
What kind of engineering degree do you want? Honestly there are better choices than nuke. Recruiters will meme you hard with it though.

>>32123179
Why are families like that allowed to reproduce?

>>32130535
Bump for answer

If you're not either 11B or 0311 kill yourself you pathetic oxygen thieves

>>32132108
>11B
>In peacetime

Enjoy wasting your days away doing menial bullshit then blowing your paycheck on booze, cars, and your pregnant girlfriend back home.

Lett's say that your ASVAB scores qualify you to take any MOS, what are the best MOS's you could take in the:

>Army
>Navy
>Marines
>Air Force

>>32132487
Depends on what you enjoy doing and what you're good at. There's no right answer for everyone.

>>32128703
She's a recruiter. Learn 2 read

>>32123179
Any Navyfags have anything bad to say about Naval Aircrewman (AW)?
From what I can tell, its a fucking awesome job compared to the rest of the navy

>>32131775
Probably mechanical, but I'm still undecided

>>32130059
Yea, you're gucci. If you go opt 40, you're gonna be e4 by the end of RASP

>>32132649
Speaking from personal experience, I spent plenty of time dwelling on /K/ and EOD was perfect for me
>play with explosives
>literally get paid to geek out over ordnance
>everyone is a huge nerd and nobody cares

I fucking love it here

>>32132733
I dont think its "awesome" but its def pretty damn good. I dont think the advancement is especially high or the bonuses either. So if i had a gripe itd be that.

>>32132836
Thanksh anon
What would be your top ratings then?

>>32132938
I mean my top is different than yours. It all depends what youre looking for.
Want a hard job or easy?
Wanna be on a ship or not?
Wanna be in danger or not?
All these affect whats right for you. You gotta tell me what youre looking for.

>>32132762
I'm out now, but being EOD during the height of the wars was extra pimp.

>Get sweet funding and cool toys
>Get your own compound
>Get to wear whatever the fuck you want
>Get randomly attached to Big Guy operations and have a laughing good time

In addition to the stateside run of VIP missions (which I heard are kind of lame now with no drinking rules) and dealing with fudd cops finding old ordnance in swimmin' holes.

Wartime EOD was an 11/10 experience.

>>32133344
You guys suck. Go watch hurt locker again and think you're important.

>>32133363
Lol.

Stay mad.

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How does the Army say officers should interact with enlisted personnel? Could I receive a link to the specific piece of doctrine that says this?

>>32133677
If you become one they'll tell you. Stupid question.

>>32133704
Not the same guy, but what should I study or look into as an Officer? And is it true that most officers are liberal dykes?

>>32133802
Talk to an officer recruiter.

They are so focused on their careers and not fucking up most are incompetent leaders. Not necessarily liberal.

>>32133677
Why would you want to?

>>32133879
>They are so focused on their careers and not fucking up most are incompetent leaders. Not necessarily liberal.
Yes. They are so petrified theyll make a mistake that they refuse to put even a toe out of line or take any chance ever. So they constantly play it safe and suck up. Aka liberal.

>watching vlogs of women in the army
>they talk about their friends, materialistic shit, and the makeup they put on that day

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If I want to get into computer programming after the army which mos would prepare me the most? I'm trying to understand what a cyber warfare specialist actually does.

>>32130535
Yes AF takes the AFOQT and Navy takes ASTB
There's military flight books you can buy to study up on from Barrons or petersons

join the /k/ discord https://discord.gg/zP8UrTb

>>32133975
Is this true of combat arms officers?

>>32134057
Duh?
>>32134155
Idk but it's generally true. Officers are way more anal about small stuff in general so probably. In general they suck and are to kept at arms length.

>>32123179
Jesus Christ, I can taste the genetic pollution from here.

>>32133299
I think I would enjoy being on a ship, not a sub tho

Honestly I just want to do something that won't make me want to kill myself by how shitty/annoying it is

>>32134670
Ok.
Do you want to do a lot of maintenance?
If yes, what type? Mechanical or electrical?
Most jobs have some. If you want little to none there are good jobs for that too though.

>>32134115
Thanks anon.

>>32134757
Not mechanically inclined, so maintenance is a no

>>32134952
>maintenance is a no
OS is for you my friend
That's what I was. The least amount of maintenance of any rate pretty much.
www.public.navy.mil/bupers-npc/enlisted/community/surface_cs_ops/Pages/OS.aspx
That's what I was and I loved it.

>>32134991
Actually looks pretty cool
Are there gubment jobs related to OS? As in can you get a job after you get out with the skills you learned?

Thanks for your answers man

>>32135032
Np I'm just chillin watching football so I got time. There are some gov contracting jobs yes. One aspect of the job involves managing data links. There are some good jobs related to that but you really gotta know your shit. There's partial crossover to air traffic in the civilian world but that's a job I'd avoid desu. In the navy it's good but as a civ they say it's insanely stressful. Would you be looking to do 1 enlistment or go full career? I only ask cause the whole get a job that they answers thing is a meme. It ain't bad but you don't have to do that.

>>32135097
That crosses over*

>>32135097
Nah just one or two enlistments
Do officers/NCOs give you opportunities to master skills or get certs? I imagine there's lots of stuff you can do to stand out and get cool opportunities

>>32135123
Well you get the gi bill so you can become whatever you want once your out.
Define master skills.
And certainly just happen as you do your job. OS doesn't have many from what I remember. But OS has lots is schools so yes if you have a good attitude and are smart you can go to some cool schools.

>>32135187
Certs*
Fuckin auto correct on new phone

>>32130102
Just pay attention in AIT. If you have any previous medical experience (EMT, Surg Tech, etc) that helps but they will teach you everything you need to know in the Army.

>>32130514
What food service specialists do:
>cook shit
>cook more shit
>manage DFACs when they get promoted
>clean kitchens
>cook more shit
>wake up earlier than everyone else to prepare breakfast
>leave after everyone else to clean up after dinner
>cook more shit food
>pull lots of guard duty

Our spoon platoon actually was in charge of our FOB's BIF in Iraq. They didn't cook a fucking thing all year, just beat the shit out of hajji's with keys.

>>32133677
Officers are not supposed to fraternize with enlisted, period.

That being said I have done the following with officers:
>i fucked a female PL from another Bn
>I smoked weed with two LTs
>I was in a heavy metal band with a CPT
> drank with more of them than I can count

>>32133802
You need a college degree and be qualified to enlist. If you can get through OCS, you're an officer. What you do, however, is up to the Serivce Branch for the most part. Guys that graduate at the top of their class get whatever branch they want. The rest become whatever the military needs them to be.
>You want to fly helicopters
>you graduate top of your class, welcome to aviation
>you don't, welcome to Ordnance/Quartermaster/Infantry/MP/Admin

>>32134155
More so than the other ones. They are either too scared of fucking up to make any decisions or they're so eager for medals they are quick to make real bad decisions.

>>32134093

Cyber warfare is more akin to civilian netsec jobs, and doesn't necessarily involve computer programming. Look into penetration testing and information security analyst jobs on the civilian side if you want an idea.

There is an intersection between these fields. Information Security Engineers who write security software are in huge demand and make bank. However, the military usually contract out software development so you may not get a chance to do it in a uniformed job.

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which army m.o.s is best for me if i want nothing more but to drive trucks and other supply vehicles?

>>32128773
Nope, just looking to see if anyone has advice or experience with getting ROTC scholarships.

>>32136913
92A

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Leave for Navy OCS on friday (driving 16 hours).

Any last minute tips? or anyone with expirience with navy ocs?

>>32138492
>tfw still no OCS date
You're driving? How long did it take between your pro rec and the finsel letter? From what I heard just try not to roll back, avoid pushing yourself to the limit to injure yourself and get rolled back, especially in the cold months, PT is indoors
By now you should have everything memorized anyway
Oh and go to church they gave coffee

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>>32138644

I was originally only offered NFO, back in July when i submitted in March. I retook the ASTB and rescored a 9/9 on pilot, and was picked for SNA about one month later, and was given a date about 1.5 months later.

I thought it would be a nice experience to drive so yeah, and on the off chance that we get liberty I could drive myself around and avoid uber.

>>32138492
>>32138723
Anon (upwards in the thread) looking at basically becoming you here. What was the process to get to where you are now? Any suggestions?

>>32138723
Seems silly to justify driving so much just to have your car for 1 or 2 liberty weekends at most which you might even lose. Then you have to drive down to Pcola anyway which is another long ass trip.

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>>32138894

Be ready for rejection, long wait times, and uncertainty. I started this process over a year ago. I was first rejected for bad eye sight (20/200) until I went and had lasik. I had to wait 6 months after having lasik before I could even begin the process (I also had to get a waiver for having had lasik) .Then I was rejected because I didn't score as well as I should have on the ASTB (6/9 on pilot, and 54 OAR). When I turned down the NFO offer, that is usually when they don't bother with you. But I studied hard, scored a perfect 9/9, then I sat around for another couple months just to hear, "yes we'll take you, but not yet". Now I'm finally about to realize my lifelong dream.

Don't let anyone tell you no, and press on.

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>>32138933

Oh well, home is on the way to Pensacola its fine w/ me. And I quite enjoy driving anyways.

>>32138982
Gotcha. I have 20/10 acuity so eyesight is no issue.
How is the ASTB? What do you need to study exactly? It says "math, english, aeronautics/nautical knowledge" as well as "naval aviation trait facit inventory" and "performance based measures".

The last one is a look at experience in aviation. Is that crucial to have some experience?

Alright, I'm enlisting in July of next year due to me wanting to complete an Associate's Degree with no strings. I'm doing Infantry in the Marines. When should I get the call to go to boot?

>>32139149
very basic mechanical physics, SAT/GRE level math and reading passages and answering questions. Naval Aviation part is history/naval terms/naval technicality and shit. Then there's a bomb the parking lot bit where you're shown what a UAV would be looking at and you have to identify which direction it's at
Final part is moving a joystick to follow a cursor and listen to instructions in each ear to press buttons in said joystick

I had trouble in that last bit since I mixed up the directions though I definitely would've done better had I needed to retake the test, not that guy by the way. Only got a 4 in that last part. Minimum to apply is 5 and you want a 6+ to be competitive. It's the math-science-physics as one score (OAR) and NA shit / UAV / Instructions as 3 separate scores

>>32139259
>very basic mechanical physics, SAT/GRE level math and reading passages and answering questions.
So college level standardized testing. That sounds easy.
>Naval Aviation part is history/naval terms/naval technicality and shit.
So "what's port/starboard" and some history? Is there a book to study from?
>Then there's a bomb the parking lot bit where you're shown what a UAV would be looking at and you have to identify which direction it's at
So point and click
>Final part is moving a joystick to follow a cursor and listen to instructions in each ear to press buttons in said joystick
That sounds simple enough

According to what you're saying, I should bone up on my highschool physics and math to make sure I don't fuck up some simple algebra and ruin my score.
>6+ to be conpetitive
6+ to be the best? Then I need to be 6+

>>32138982
Are you doing this straight out of college or did you start a few years after? Any NROTC experience beforehand?

>>32139470
>So college level standardized testing. That sounds easy.
yeah
>>32139470
>So "what's port/starboard" and some history? Is there a book to study from?
yes there's study guide books, check the OP link on airwarriors and look up ASTB gouges. I bought a physical book to do the tests on too which helped. the only tricky part of the first bit is timing yourself
>>32139470
>So point and click
yeah it's just a matter of orienting yourself and doing it as fast as possible. There's a quick trick to it that makes it really easy.
>>32139470
>That sounds simple enough
joystick was a bitch to handle and I played video games my whole life. It kept getting stuck too, I think mine was busted.
>>32139470
>6+ to be the best? Then I need to be 6+
score is 1-9 based on how others do. 5 minimum 6-7 is competitive enough to get in, they are hurting for pilots.
>>32139554
I did, but you can start applying to OCS before graduating which you definitely should and I regret not doing so. I didn't have any

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>>32139554

I graduated in Dec 14. Started all of this in July of 15.

I have 0 prior flight experience, and 0 NROTC experience (only army was offered at my university.)

>>32139643
I did a quick couple of practice tests. Really happy that I plan on majoring in math. I'll need to takes some more physics courses though.

When is it first possible to take the ASTB?

>>32139736
I'm still only a sophomore at my university, so I'm glad I still have some time to prepare and get the ball rolling early. Any courses that you would recommend to help prepare for the academic portions of OCS and such?

>>32139643
Oh, by the way, how much time to you get to complete the test and are calculators allowed?

>>32139737
No one will talk with you until you are a junior. The Barrons book on flight aptitude test is what I studied and it was rather helpful.

The UAV thing and the throttle/stick test are the hardest part. The UAV test can be gamed very hard if you know how to look at it. The Joystick/throttle part is difficult if you don't pay total attention to the instructions.

12B, yay or nay?

Will I actually get to build cool stuff and blow shit up?

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>>32139789
No calculators, and each section has a different time limit. It is an adaptive test, as in if you answer a question right, you will get a harder question next. This goes on util the section is complete.

>>32139737
It's under college leveled physics with calculus. I have no idea when it's possible I would think around a year before is when you can start the application.
>>32139789
Each portion has a different time allotted. It's not even exact time since the test is adaptive based on how you're doing during the test, i.e. if you get the first few right it'll get harder.

>>32139758
OCS courses themselves are really easy from what I heard, mostly memorization, shouldn't really have trouble with it.

>>32139643
Okay, thanks so much anon.
If you don't mind, are there any college courses you took that you thought helped you a lot?

>>32139791
I can still talk to a recruiter to figure out the process, and plan, though, right?

>>32139811
>>32139820
So the test isn't done with a pen and paper, then.

I appreciate the answers.

Yo lurking about the whole pilot deal. I'm not looking at pilot stuff but for my curiositu do you need to know advanced calculus or simply highschool physics for this shit?

>>32139860
>high school physics
>not calculus
???

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>>32139849

Mine was all on a pc.

>>32139860

I only have business calculus and I feel that was more than sufficient (0 physics classes as well).

>>32139918
That was basic calculus but not college type calculus
>>32139930
>>>32139849
>Mine was all on a pc.

>>32139860
>I only have business calculus and I feel that was more than sufficient (0 physics classes as well).
Biz calc? So just find areas under curves and take derivatives that kind of simple stuff?

>>32139961

Yep.

>>32139930
So given that it's an adaptive test that gives increasingly difficult problems with each correct answer, does that factor into scoring or no? Seems kind of unfair to penalize a wrong answer to a very difficult question the same as a wrong answer to an easy question.

>>32139860
It helps with the app to have calculus and physics but not needed.
>>32139995
It's also based on how everyone else tests too

>>32140007
So it's curved, basically.

>>32139995
Normally adaptive tests will try to get you to a point where you're only getting a certain percentage of the questions right, then figure stuff out based on how hard those questions are. Don't know about the ASVAB in particular though

To the prospective Naval aviators in the thread, would it be a good idea for me to do Marine PLC over the summer? It seems to me like that might make me a more appealing candidate, but I'm not certain.

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Do cutoff score realy makes a difference on promotions? Is it advacible to choose an understaff MOS?

>http://www.armyreenlistment.com/Messages/MILPER/In_Out_Calls_16_264_20160915.pdf

>http://snagfilms.s3.amazonaws.com/a8/1d/f63ffc9648b2baf1036acdde5be5/cs-1610-cutoff-october.pdf

>>32135501
Alright ill be joining in 6 months or so, so I'm gonna brush up on some skills to not seem totally retarded.

>>32140313
PLC is committing to Marine Naval aviators, which I would not recommend over Naval aviation. Backing out of PLC then going for Navy OCS might not make you seem more appealing, rather indecisive.

>>32140450
I was under the impression that it wasn't committal, but I'm probably wrong.

What sucks is that the Navy used to have something similar called AVROC but got rid of it several years ago.

>>32136913
88m

Can I stay on the military base where my spouse is going to tech school? We wouldn't be living together (it's under 20 weeks so she stays in a dorm and they don't fly me out) but I'd like to be able to get on-base housing of my own when I move down.

>>32140021
>ASVAB
How difficult is the ASVAB?

>>32141107
Not difficult at all.

At what rank can I expect to get BAH?

>>32141193
I wonder if I can get Ms O'Rourke's number

>>32141107
literally 10th grade level general education + some tricksy IQ test stuff in there

>>32141173
Depends on branch

I won't lie. I get triggered every time I see this thread and want to leave /k. I was declined from joining all branches of the US military because I was shot in the face by a .22 even though there was no lasting damage besides numbness. All I wanted to do my whole life was join the Marines but of course life is a fucking joke so I got shot right before I turned 18. I'm 22 now and will be killing myself before 2017

>>32141193
>gsupply company going to fort hood for "additional training"

RIP you never come back from fort hood anything like the man you went there as

i can only imagine going there for "training" as a national guard POG

>infantry and 19Ds would curse too much on live camera given the chance so they film the absolute lowest tier POGs possible instead

>>32141371
Dude fuck being in the Marines. It's not some sort of fucking amazing wow so great thing. Being in the military in general isn't some amazing shit. It's just something some people do. Make a difference for your country any way you want. Don't be a piece of shit and raise a family that knows right from wrong and you will be ahead of 99% of people here. Including military.

>>32141411


t. active duty military

>>32141376
>you never come back from fort hood anything like the man you went there as
How do you mean?

>>32141186
I was thinking of signing up for the national guard to work on planes, as a part of plan to become a pilot and because I haven't found a job; is it really that bad? Will I hate life if I do go through with it?

>>32141440
place is 100% full of 50% manpower, 30% funded armor units with 10% functional bradleys that pretends costantly like it's a relvant modern armored Corps

it's not, it sucks, i will never unlive the 3 years of 19d bullshit i did in those motorpools accomplishing nothing day in, day out, etc.

i got more training in the first 6 days total / 3 months of drill in my NG unit afterwards than i did in my 3.5years of active at Hood. place is a god forsaken shit hole unless ww3 is happening

>>32141411
I have no social skills and am a virgin at 22. The military was my last chance to do anything right and the world screwed me out of it. I know I would have been a perfect fit. My family disowned me so I would have had nobody I missed. I was in young marines and was the leader of my unit under my Di. I only pray that death is the end. One life of disappointment is enough for me

>>32141501
buddhism is real like it or not

i've been reincarnated as a retard who enlisted 19D and got assigned to fort hood 3 times now

I keep reliving this pointless existence that is being anything 19-series in an armored corps too large to sustain itself. my soul knows how to improve it by the retard i respawn as just won't say the words, won't make the basic improvements to my life

Between MA, LS, and SS, which is the most available slot?

Also, MA is basically security, counter-terrorism and low level corrections right?

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>>32141448
That's not a bad movie.

>>32141371
Lol, dude, join a mercenary training camp and go be a badass in another country.

>>32123179
I was just reading something about the Green Berets and the related USSOCOM. Thinking it it would be kinda cool to turn this warrior type body into an actual warrior; after I get my associates of course, and pursue some kind of intelligence contracting work.

>>32141052
Polite bump.

>>32141371
>>32141651
I'll catch some heat for this, but I've just heard about these dudes. Probably a bit, you know, snobby. but yeah.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ssGADPIpGA

>>32141622
Wtf is SS?
And MA and LS are garbage. Pick something different trust me. MA do nothing but check IDs at gates.

>>32141371
Breh, look up Jay Consalvi, callsign 'Faceshot'.

Dude literally took a round to the face and fought to become a Navy fighter pilot. Saw it on a documentary called Speed and Angels I think. There's still tons of other ways you can serve too.

>>32142095
Maybe in wartime I could have gotten in, but not now. They told me they are extremely picky now and are turning people down just for having tattoos. I appreciate the advice, but there is nothing I can do that will get me in the military. I even wrote to the general and a few other higher ups.

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>>32142173
You could go to med or law school and direct commish.

Or you could keep beating yourself up about it. No skin off my dick.

>>32141052
>>32141706
No, unless there's a hotel, but you'd still pay. Why are you even going? It'd be boring as hell.

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Can any of you fags explain to me why they want A letter requesting a BAH waiver, a letter from my unit with my dumb fuckin school info like class dates and class course number, a letter from TMO to verify household goods where not shipped ( the fuck is that about ) And copy of my PCS orders?

Im just trying to collect BAH I didn't think I had this much fag shit to do with it

>>32131705
Lying-ass recruiter detected. You get most of the credits you need for an Associates in Science, not a fucking engineering degree. Unless you're an officer, maybe, but then you probably have a degree already.

What's up boys, just ETSed after 8 years active Army as a CW2, I'll tell it like it is if you have questions.

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>>32142747
What made you get out?
What field were you in?
Did you come in as a warrant or commission while already in?
Did you like being a warrant?
Would you do it all again?

>>32142788
>What made you get out?
Wanted a stable life
>What field were you in?
Aviation
>Did you come in as a warrant or commission while already in?
Street to seat/high school to flight school
>Did you like being a warrant?
It was the best...mostly
>Would you do it all again?
I'd say so

>>32143068
I'll add that the politics and big army bullshit made me leave as well

>>32143068
>>32143078
All found good. Can you elaborate on the reason yo got out.

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>>32142747
Is this accurate?

>>32143068
>>32143078
>>32143081
Also, what wasnt stable about it?

>>32143092
Not the other guy, but yes.

I've seen one CW5 in my lifetime, and that was after I got out, heard you need like 20 fucking years to pin on, especially in aviation.

>>32143081
The big army is trying to make warrants mirror O grade officers, but only when it benefits them so warrants are getting screwed. They're fucking with our history and traditions.
>>32143092
For the most part, as a senior W2 I only went to work when I needed to do something or if I was flying, the LTs wouldn't even bother me unless it was important.
>>32143095
Deployments, field exercises, NTC and/or JRTC at least once a year (which is 4-6 weeks in a shithole doing retarded war games), PCSing every few years, going TDY pretty frequently, switching units sometimes or positions, etc. Some people like that stuff but I wanted to be around my kids more.

>>32143125
From a navy pov, there was a CW04 intel guy on my ship and he was without a doubt the saltyest mfer ive ever seen. He didnt take shit from anyone and was pissed off 24/7. It was both inspiring and intimidating.

>>32143131
>but I wanted to be around my kids more.
Gotcha. Damn i gotta say that program and job sounds pretty great though.

>>32143092
>>32143125
>>32143133
W4s and W5s are pretty untouchable. Basically the battalion commanders right hand man and top advisor (command sergeants major really don't do shit in aviation units) at the W4 level and anywhere from brigade to division and above for W5. So there's only one person they really answer to, and it's usually your boss's boss's boss's boss.

I have red/green color deficiency; not colorblind, but everything appears slightly more red than green.

Am I fucked out of 11B or 19D?

>>32143141
It's a pretty good deal, especially from the outside looking in, but 8 years is a long time and it's voluntary indefinite for the training, which means you can be recalled if a major conflict starts up and they need you, just like they recalled a bunch of shrinks and docs after the start of Afghanistan in Iraq who were in their 60s and 70s.

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>>32143158
>wanting to be a cavalry faggot

>>32143158
Pretty sure you're screwed, can't read maps brah.

>>32142747
1. How was SERE

2. How many times have you been to Teaser's

It seems there's a lot of wannabe Navyfag airmen ITT

I'll give y'all a warning: most of the links on airwarriors are 404'd which sucks because there was some fantastic stuff in there. You will have to search deeper for what you want.

>>32143204
SERE was probably the best training you'll receive as a pilot, with one of the best ranges in the army. There were parts that sucked but all in all it was great stuff.

And I've been to teasers way too many times, got an autographed poster of tiny Tina, luckily before the owners son was killed after someone shot up the joint.

My student visa just lapsed.. I'm currently out of status. Can joining the armed forces offer me legal status in the USA or should I just cross the border and go home?

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>>32143302
>cross the border

>>32141501
Being a sperg won't be fixed in the Marines. Become unsperg like then apply for a waiver to get in. Also being a virgin at 22, who fucking cares? It's only weird if you make it weird.

>>32142674
Figured it out.

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>>32143302
I'm an immigrantfag myself so I've done some research on this.

You're shit out of luck. You would have had a chance to join the armed forces if you qualified for the MAVNI program while you still had your legal status. There's no way you can join if you don't have a legal status.

So to join as a non-citizen you have to either have permanent residency or meet the MAVNI requirements.

I got the letter that my permanent resident application has been approved yesterday. Going to enlist soon.

Britbong here, how long did it take you to go from applying to basic training in the Royal Navy? Did you get letters about it? I don't really want to tell my parents until closer to the date (my dad has the same first initial as me so he opens my post most of the time).

If I fuck up 18X am I doomed to a life of 11B

It's my dream to be SF

>>32145534
You'll get fuckered, but if you are legit physically and mentally committed to going SF, some guys go through the course two or even three times.

I know a dude who was a physical monster who got dropped from the course. He tried again two years later and made it.

>>32145602
Not the other anon, why'd he get dropped?

>>32145657
He didn't suck dick good enough and had bad grammar

>>32145670
What does that mean?

>>32145657
No idea. He didn't talk too much about it, plus NDAs and shit.

I know he was fairly far in selection. He had come straight off the street into the SF pipeline, but he had prepared himself beforehand to be in excellent shape and mentally SF was always his goal.

>>32145657
Joining 18x is a meme. There's a 99% chance you'll wash out and end up in 82nd airborne. Which is not bad at all to be honest. because airborne is still pretty awesome. But it's bad for your self esteem. Personally I'd suggest to go 11x with option 40. Then you have a solid chance of going ranger and more without feeling like a complete failure.

>>32123340
Bro, at least he just got a loan to buy a new Mustang.
Only 48% interest too.

>>32145690
Gotcha.
>>32145696
I'm already on like 3 memes why not make it 4. But honestly I'm going 18x cause I got no choice. I'm prior service and 18x is nearly my only option. Plus it's what I want.

>>32123179
>>32123340
This is why you play videogames on the base/at home and don't go out drinking with the dudebros.

>>32145718
If you have prior service and you know what you're getting yourself into then you should definitely be able to pull it off. I assumed you were some fresh out of high school kid.

My bad. Do it!

>>32145747
Thx. Honestly I think that's where all this hate from 18x comes from. I'm assuming the same thing you did. Most people who take it are stupid kids 20 year olds who have no idea what they want out of life and so on. So I'm not surprised they fail out.

>>32145679
It means he didn't suck dick good enough and had bad grammar

>>32145878
Like you?

>>32142413
It's boring as hell where I am right now. Staying here sucks for a multitude of reasons, the most significant being the fact that I fucking miss my wife.

>>32129639
what do these acronyms stand for

>>32146381
Navy rates. Look em up

>>32131097
>bechamel

sounds french
fuck that shit

>>32146423
It's of Italian origin.

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Let's talk about getting a TS clearance... after you've been in for a while.

Here's the deal. I'm 32. I completed my State's NG OCS and got Infantry, got to go to Ranger School, and got a (non-combat) deployment. I've been doing great so far.

Now when I signed up, I was 29 and did NOT disclose some stupid shit because I didn't want to risk not getting selected for OCS. My recruiter had stressed it was really selective at the time. I didn't mention that...

>I got a disorderly conduct at age 15 for handing out 'offensive' flyers at a church group
>I got an open container for drinking on a front lawn at 21 years old
>I got a disorderly conduct at 22 for pissing in a bar parking lot.
>I got a public intoxication at 22 asking a cop for directions to get home (to be fair, I was pretty hammered)
>I got a public intoxication while on vacation in way out of my home state at 24
>"damn sir you drink a ton" yeah I was kinda wild and stupid during my early 20s

Oh and

>Didn't mention I smoked weed probably 60 times total in my life, tried coke and molly < 5 times each.
>Didn't mention as a kid I broke bones and stupid medical stuff everyone lies about at MEPS

And since all the offences were tickets, nothing came up, I got my secret clearance and have been serving just fine.

I've been thinking about reclassing into something that requires TS clearance.

Should I even bother or will this absolutely fuck me over? I've only ever heard of people lying to get in and then that's it. Not reclassing after serving for some time.

>>32146453
You'll still be fine.

What are the M9 qualification standard?

>>32136913
106z

>>32136913
1a

>>32146478

How does the whole process work? Will I disclose it all to the investigators then basically just explain "The reason I didn't bring it up was because I wanted to get in?"

>>32146478
Not him but I heard they make you take a polygraph and shit like that

After a routine run last week, I got literal butthurt on the right hip

Now it's worse and more intense than ever and I could barely walk after I ran today. wat do?

I ship in early Jan.

>>32146597
Oh I dunno, maybe stop running until it heals?

>>32146574
No they don't. Polys on happen for specific postings. There is no general TS poly.

>>32146559
Man if I was you I would not say anything. You already got the secret so getting the TS is only 1 more step. They're gonna interview some people from your life. Just make sure those people lie/keep their mouth shut and you'll be fine.

>>32146387
Thanks. I always just google "military xyz" but it doesn't always come up

19yo Kiwi here studying physics, thinking of joining the army reserve
Anyone have any experience/suggestions?

>>32146671
Did you find em? If not I can post links.

>>32146707
Yep, thanks

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>>32146649

I'm worried they'll just do something simple like call the police stations of places I've lived.

Also I'm sure there's a database SOMEWHERE with those stupid misdemeanors. I remember being able to look it up in the past.

Should I just stay where I'm at? Let's say I disclose it to be safe. What happens then?

>>32140513
Well you can always back out. But it doesn't look good
You're denying another Marine prospect a slot at PLC at something you don't even want to continue through

>>32146890
Ah. The way PLC had been sold to me was that it was "Marine Officer summer camp!" Glad I didn't make any mistakes on that.

>>32146916
>>32146890
Fuck, trip was for a different thread. My bad.

>>32146878
I would imagine they'd be pissed you hadn't brought it up from day one. And man I'm pretty sure they aren't that thorough. Your call though.

>>32146453
I would fess up about anything on record. Not the hard drugs and lower the weed count.
Bones is whatever

>>32123179
Any royal navy people lurkan?
I've applied to join as a weapons engineer and now I have my career advisory thing in which they want to talk to me about being a weapons engineer and if another role is better suited to me.

ANyway they said something about branch of preference. Does this mean my job or the ship I would serve on?
If the latter then which ship is the best?

I fell for the travel meme so ideally a ship that travels more would be best

Sorry if this makes no sense, I know fuck all obviously

(Also i'm English just incase you were wondering what royal navy I meant)

>>32147020
Not RN, but I'm reading into joining (I asked >>32145314)

It's just about the field in which you'd prefer your role to be (they'd look at other roles in that branch that might suit you better, I would imagine).
http://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/brochures/royal-navy/branch-select

>>32147123
Oh so if I said engineering then mentioned I like computers they would suggest software engineering if that's a choice?

Sorry if it sounds daft but I wanna get all this crystal clear before I talk to them

>>32146649

> They're gonna interview some people from your life. Just make sure those people lie/keep their mouth shut and you'll be fine.

Fun part about this is that lying to a clearance investigator is a felony, and telling your contacts to do it can get you charged with conspiracy as well.

So many people wanna turn shit that isn't serious into serious shit by trying to cover it up.

There are people right now who hold the highest clearances and openly told investigators that they beat off weekly to only the finest furryloli porn and did tons of weed back in the day. Lying about little shit looks way worse than admitting to even big shit.,

>>32147146
Well that role doesn't exist, so no. Engineering Branch is technician/mechanic roles (including Weapons Engineer). I'd say that you could tell them your interest in computer hardware is part of why you're interested in an engineering role (you enjoy repairing things, putting shit together, etc.). It's a no-qualifications role anyway so it doesn't really matter, they just want to know your motivation for choosing said role over something else. They might recommend an engineering role that involves the ship's non-weapon systems or a role on a sub, depending on what's in demand. They may even suggest an Officer role if you have the qualifications (or may question why you didn't apply as an Officer, despite being qualified).

The Royal Navy doesn't program their own shit, so if you picked that role because you thought you'd be programming, you're doing the wrong thing. You'd have to apply for a job in a private company like BAE to do something like that.

>>32147401
The software thing was just an example I was using m8

Any way do you know anything about working on a sub? Might be cool tbqh

>>32147267
Ya that stuff is there to scare sheep like you into admitting to stuff like that. They aren't going to find out. It's like the moment of truth stuff in boot camp. It exists to scare idiots into admitting to lying and getting kicked out. Just keep your mouth shut.

>>32147428
>The software thing was just an example I was using m8
I figured, just thought I'd clarify in case that's what you were interested in doing.

>Any way do you know anything about working on a sub?
I don't really. I'd think it'd probably be more intense and stressful since you'd be underwater for extended periods of time. At least on a ship you can go on deck and breathe fresh air, but maybe that's just my personal preference.
You do get extra day per day and a £5000 bonus once you're fully trained as a submariner, so I that'd be the advantage to working on a sub rather than a ship.

>>32147556
*extra pay per day

>>32147498

>Comparing moment of truth to clearance investigation.

Confirmed for noclearance grunt. It's a completely different world.

>>32148106
Actually it isn't. You're giving yourself away as knowing nothing. Those people doing the clearances are lazy humans just like everyone else. They don't care. Guessing you weren't hear a few threads ago when a guy who works for the company that does the clearances was here? It's ok. Just keep your mouth shut and you'll learn how things actually work in the government.

>>32148231

>Having to use sixth-hand sources from the internet because you're noclearance.

Sorry about your job bro. Maybe your uncle can get you a welding job when you get out or something?

>>32123696
What city? I have a huge boner for uniformed chicks

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Coastie here for all your Coast Guard related questions.

>>32148267
Nice deflection. Also I had a secret while I was in. Also none of that even matters cause I'm using the gi bill atm which everyone gets even if they have no clearance. Also you clearly aren't in the military so feel free to stop pretending.

>>32147556
I looked up submariner vids and it looks like hell kek

Anyway thanks for the advice, i'll call them when their recruiting place opens up and let you guys know how it went

I'll chuck it in a pastebin for you guys incase any other bongs are lurkan

>>32148231
I had former neighbors and coworkers who I didn't even list on my references getting asked about me by OPM people.

They are thorough. And also the whole point of a clearance is to make sure you don't have anything that can be leveraged against you. That's why being honest about little shit is better than lying. Admitting you smoked weed a couple of times removed any potential blackmail leverage, trying to lie about it creates an in for somebody to blackmail you. The act of lying and having to cover it up is worse than the original act.

>>32148433
A secret is not the same level as a TS investigation.

Kind of a pansy thing to go into the military for, but my goal is to be a clinical psychologist. What's the best branch for an Amerifag to shoot for to get that job?

>>32148504
I know fag

>>32148487
I know this too. You're falling for it. That leverage thing is all buzz words to trick goodie too shoes like you. Do you really consider asking your neighbors as thorough? That's nothing special at all no shit that happens. And no, you should not admit to smoking weed. How the fuck could that be leveraged against you? Look man you wanna admit it then go ahead. But what I know is all my CT friends from my ship had TS clearances and they all smoked weed and lied and no one ever knew.

>>32148106
Kids say the darnedest things. I was a grunt, I have secret clearance.

>>32148599
It can be leveraged not because of the actual act, but because of the lie which covered up that is now something that can be held against somebody.

>I know a guy with a TS

Cool. I had a TS with multiple recerts over the years and worked around OPM and USSS. After financial issues, lies were they next biggest kicker for people during their investigation. Plenty of folks admitted to minor bullshit and it wasn't an issue.

>>32148682
Ya you're missing my point. If the TS guy can't find out how is someone else to use it to leverage against you? My point is no one will ever know. Also good for you. You realize that was during the war/surge right? You realize the military is downsizing and can afford to be very picky right now right?

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I want to enlist in the Marine Corps as infantry for 4 years and then go into the Navy for SEAL. I don't have the mental maturity for SEAL right now. How is the peacetime infantry like?

>>32148853
Just try for a SEAL contract. 4 years of being a grunt will just make you hate the military.

>>32148893
I already am trying. I'm PSTing but I honestly do not think I have the mentality tenacity for it right now. I want to be a SEAL but I've been sheltered my whole life, I need to harden up on my own.

>>32148958
If this is your mentality now you will never be a seal.

>>32123179
This is a dumb question i'm sure but will being in the military get me fucking swole?

>>32149309
No. We do lots of cardio. Getting swole is up to you.

>>32149694
>>32149694
>>32149694

>>32145960
Welcome to the 2nd grade level of comebacks

>>32146574
Polygraph tests ain't shit. 99% of the time it's a scare tactic. Just knowing how it works can significantly increase your ability to beat it

Read this: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polygraph

>>32148958
Now or never. Do or die

Either get ready to go SEAL or get ready to be a grunt

>>32148433
>>32148636

>Implying that a secret counts.

Maxkek. Guys, you realize they give secret clearances to foreigners all the time, right? Your country trusts you as much as it trusts the enemy.

But, hey, welding is a good trade. We need welders. Keep on keepin' on.

I miss running around in body armor and NVGs and carrying a rifle. I miss the action and sense of adventure. I miss the friendship of people I don't have to change my language or humor around and can just be myself. I miss joking about death and killing myself and killing others and people getting that it's all jokes.
I haven't even been out of the Army 6 month yet but I just can't get over it. I hated the military, but I liked being a soldier.