That feeling when you wanna be a gun collector but you live in

>>32100581
Swissland, Czech Republic, one of the Balkan states....

>>32100595
Im from Slovenia. I fucking hate this country

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>>32100610
You could join the Slovenian Army and become a JTAC, I hear they're really good.
Or you could move to the Croatian coast, more sun, some guns.

>>32100637
Was thinking of joining the army here but wasn't sure

>>32100669
I'm in the process of enlisting in the US Army if my blood pressure isn't to high....go for it man, you get to be /k/ amongst non /k/ people

>>32100730
I finished a pretty good school with a 4 year program and am able to aim high if i join the slovenian army. Any ideas on what to become?

>>32100779
A dead sheep.
Really soon.

>>32100779
That's kinda up to you man, whatever interests you. Like I said though, I've heard their JTACs are top tier.

>>32100581
Move to Poland bro. :)

>>32100823
And what will i find in poland that could interest me?

>>32100862
2 types of gun permit are available:
sports or collectors.
With sports you can still buy any old military rifle (turned to semi).
With collectors you can buy all old rifles, even a PK turned to single-fire was available recently.
Someone was selling several PM-63 in single fire mode recently, very cheap, like, 140usd. I wasn't fast enough.

So collect pictures of guns i stead of guns.

This strategy has been used as a remedy of teenage sexual dysphoria since... forever.

Surely it'll work for this.

>>32100610
But Slovenia has loose gun laws.

Hell Polenar Tactical is based in Slovenia?

Do you live in the capital and don't have money for licenses?

>>32100995
I live in Maribor whih is like the 2. Bigget city in Slovenia. And i do have money. But everyone here is telling me that you can't buy guns if they are not ment to be used for hunting

>>32100894
That's shit. Finland and other nordics allows every semi-auto for sport shooting or hunting, and collectors can buy full auto.

>>32101166
>shit
Still better than most western countries, ruled by communist scum. You shit.

>>32101291
It's comparatively shit, so why would anyone move there if they actually had a choice?

>>32101306
There are a lot of them.
And I could tell you.
But why should I waste my time on you, when you're only here to troll?

>>32101361
Well do elighten me, because pooland seems to be worse on every imaginable metric when compared to nordicks. Or CZ/CH.

>>32101361

Even germany have better laws than Polacuck....

In my state revolvers that have a barrel length less than 10 cm and semiautomatics that are less than 12cm are in the same category as automatic rifes.

>>32101456
Used to, until recently.
Tell that to krauts who are buying everything they can from Polish and Czech gun stores, to defend from raping muslim monkeys, including blank-fire guns and black-powder revolvers.

>>32101561
what happend recently to their weapon laws?

I know that they have a refugee problem, but what changed?

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While there's a few countries with totally shit gun laws, 90% of the claims of "woe is me, I can't get muh guns" are from euroPEONs too lazy or stupid to actually do their own research regarding gun ownership in their country.

>>32101561
>Used to, until recently.

Germany actually loosened some restrictions on features like muzzle brakes and magazines...
Concealed carry was never really a thing in GerMONEY, so I don't see why you'd bring self-defense implying that it got worse.

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>>32101685
Is that a Manurhin?

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>>32101694
>Is that a Manurhin?

Yup.

>>32100581
Just be rich

Look up gun laws in the Netherlands, you should consider yourself lucky

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>tfw households here have crates and crates buried, full of weapons that not even ameri/k/an gun owners cant own legally
>tfw its only to be dug up and used in case of another war with muslims
>one can only shoot shitty hunting rifles, shotguns and pistols but only at weddings and winter holidays
Its probably for the best, but hillbillies still use grenades for fishing, drawing attention to fucking NATO and other faggot pisskeepers

>>32100894
Or you know, you could buy a black powder gun without any license or background checks..

>>32100581
if you're white and Catholic, move to US please.

>>32100595

>Swissland
>EU

Oh no you didn't

>>32100894
Yeah but you guys will get invaded by the Germans for not being tolerant to the migrants

>>32100581
Time to move, that's it. Even then, it'll only shield you temporarily if you still exist within the EU.
EU is just california tier, you'll be legislated out of your guns eventually.

>>32100581
>That feeling when

you could always use >tfw for that

>>32100581
>Mayo in a sink

I'm not sure I understand this feel.

>>32101685
>EU flag

I don't understand how any gun owner could be pro-EU.
I don't even see why anyone would even own that shitty flag.

>>32103253
Sink o de Mayo.

>>32101073
Fuck em, if they don't have guns they don't know shit.

Look up gun clubs and just take up some hunter courses if you need to pay that lip service.

>>32103269
>I don't understand how any gun owner could be pro-EU.
>I don't even see why anyone would even own that shitty flag.

I own it because trolls keep saying we don't have any guns in euroland...

>>32100581
Enlist in the US armed forces, stay in the US afterwards.

>>32101166
>Finland and other nordics allows every semi-auto for sport shooting or hunting
No, they do not. Stop spreading lies, you imbecile.
> and collectors can buy full auto.
Which they are not allowed to purchase ammunition for.

>>32101685
>Concealed carry was never really a thing in GerMONEY
It was legal for hundreds of years, up until the First World War.

>>32103541
You can't do that unless you have at least a Green Card.

>>32101909
Serbia?

>>32105151
It was actually legal until '45 as long as you weren't a Untermensch

>>32105175
The Weimar Republic initiated widespread civilian disarmament in the early 1920s. Hitler only ever made it simpler for the average kraut to purchase and possess rifles and pistols; carrying them on your person in everyday situations was out of the question.

>>32105203
Okay, Weimar aside, but I know my great grandfather was legally carrying a pistol during the Nazi time, without being part of the Wehrmacht

>>32103386
This guy gets it.

>>32105140
But I'm a finnfag and I own 2 black evil assault weapons for sport shooting. And an evil black assault pistol too.
>Which they are not allowed to purchase ammunition for.
That's absolutely ludicrous.

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>>32101685
>MFW when there are only shitty shooting clubs in my area where you can only shoot .22 or fucking air guns.

Gun laws in Germany are "okay", could be a lot worse. But finding a good shooting club is a pain in the ass.

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OP is so frustratingly dumb. It's people like OP that make Europe so gun-less. Because they're too stupid to look up what it takes to get one.

>but... but... they told me I can't get one.

You're a moron. Look up the laws in writing. Or can't you read either?

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>>32100581
That feeling when you can be a gun collector because you live in a pro-guns US state, but no money...

That feeling when you fuck with guns for work and simply don't have the energy to do so on your spare time.

Can't remember when was the last time I went to shooting range off work. Sucks and is great at the same time.

>>32100581
Boris?

>>32105233
you could do that as a party member

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>>32100595
>Switzerland
>EU

>>32100581
wish i could trade places with you.

>>32100581
M8 the 5th of May is quite a way away

>>32100581
>tfw when you want to make fun of Euro gun lovers, but you but live in California.

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>>32101703
Nice

>>32105140
Finland allows you to buy any semiauto rifle and pistol and any size magazine for them. And a tax free suppressors for them straight over the counter. And you can buy all the ammo for them there is in the LGS in a one go.

Full auto world in Finland is a bit weird and messed up, that's true. But not totally impossible, and of course you can buy ammo for those as well.

Where did you got these ideas?

>>32111137

>Where did you got these ideas?

I'd call it fuddlore, except it's not even that. It's just the lazy naive European person fed a bowl of shit and told it's ice cream.

>>32101703
fucking beautiful

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>>32110815
muzzle device on the pistol in the middle is pretty fuckin hot

details?

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>>32105151
>It was legal for hundreds of years, up until the First World War.

As in most of euroland.
Though Germany did have strict laws for swords if you want to go that far back. ;)

You're right, it was a sweeping comment which should've been made more clear, but still in recent history the germans were never favorable to concealed carry.

>>32111275
>fucking beautiful

Also a huge pain in the dick to take a photograph of. The blue is deep, but reflective as fuck.

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>>32101790
You can legally own guns in The Netherlands, though.

Pic related.

>>32106878
>But I'm a finnfag and I own 2 black evil assault weapons for sport shooting.
>sport shooting
There´s the operative word you seem to have missed. Furthermore, owning a gun at the mercy of the local police, after submitting oneself to a tiresome, pointless and subjugating bureaucratic process, is not a mark of success.

The Police now do everything in their power to minimize the amount of "evil black assault weapons" entering into civilian hands. It all started with the radical, sweeping and badly planned changes to firearms legislation back in 1997 and 2011, and it´s only going to get worse from here on out. The commie ride never ends.
>That's absolutely ludicrous.
Firearms collectors are generally not allowed to fire their collectibles.

>>32111137
>Finland allows you to buy any semiauto rifle and pistol and any size magazine for them.
After you´ve jumped through a ludicrous amount of hoops, yes.
>And a tax free suppressors for them straight over the counter.
>And you can buy all the ammo for them there is in the LGS in a one go.
As if that is anything to brag about in a country that requires a license for ownership of any usable firearm.
>Full auto world in Finland is a bit weird and messed up, that's true.
It´s not weird at all. Strict firearms laws goes hand-in-hand with "social democracy", also known as the "nanny state".
>But not totally impossible
It is impossible for 99.9% of the population. In other words, it might as well be impossible.

>>32113748
*firearms law
>>32113700
*there are the operative words

I blame the keyboard.

>>32113748
You are a complete and utter idiot. My Finnish girlfriend owns guns and she tells me it is not hard at all. If you cannot match her then you are lazy and/or poor.

>>32101166
He forgot hunting permit, which allows semi-autos

>>32101073


http://www.strelec.si/forum/

Evo ti glupi štajerc. Na forumu imajo vodič za take kot si ti :)

Dejansko ni problem dobit, če res vložiš malce truda v to.

Oh my sweet op. Come to mid America, we have guns in food markets and with a signature you can have full automatic firearms that you have in your dreams. Now come here and start a family with one of our finest trailer park whors. Ps they might be thick.

>>32113700
>>32113748

You have to be some bitter immigrant, or you have a personal history of felony. Or you are some lazy fucker who can't stand any obstacles in your life, not even the minor ones.

It doesn't go that way. If you want aforementioned types of firearms in Finland, you can have them as well. And it's not that hard.

Yes legal gun ownership is here not a right but a privilege you have to earn by being a law abiding citizen. And every legal gun is taken to a National firearms database with owner's ID info. It means an extra stage of paperwork, but that's it.

>>32100894
Jak trudno w ogóle dostać te jebane pozwolenia?

>>32100823
Poland is actually very gun friendly. They actually have a better system than the US as far as purchasing goes. Once you get your license (which basically is nothing more than a background check and an application) it's unlimited funs instead of a background check every time you buy funs.

>>32101456
not even remotely true. Poland has some of if not the best gun laws in Europe.

>>32115087

Funny thing is the former commie East European countries are leagues ahead of the fags in the West concerning gun ownership. I sure am glad we got the EU to sort things out for us, right?

>>32114130
Sport shooting or hunting, I wrote.

>>32113700
Not at the mercy, since they are forced to issue the permit if you fill the requirements.

I'm not trying to claim that the laws couldn't be improved, or that I like the current situation, but it isn't as bad as you make it seem.

>pay 74e or whatever it is nowdays
>produce proof that you practice shooting (statement from the range, or gunowner whose guns you've been practicing with)
>pass background check
>flash military or civil service pass if male
>do the ridiculous psych eval that nobody ever fails
>acquire permit, which will be valid for 6mo
>buy gun
>show gun to police within a month after time of purchase

Personally I got permits for semi-auto 7.62x39 after plinking with my dad's bolt action .22LR and practicing pistol IPSC at the local range for half a year. Semi-auto 9mm pistol 2 years later (as mandated by the law), and then 5.56x45 after I decided I wanted an AR.

The only big issue is the 2 year training period thingie for pistols.

>>32115114
EU is the worst enemy of civilian gun ownership.

>>32115548
True.

EU in the very near future needs to make decisions no other unity has ever done in recorded human history.

The most problematic thing is that EU as a whole is ungodly rich, has totally modern nukes and tens of ways to deliver them (not just space satellite IC), and has the qualified manpower to break even, even with the Brexit.

Eu seems to be like a mess, and it definitely is a mess. Oh man it is a mess.
Like separate fingers of a hand.

>>32115969

The EU would have been fine if they stuck to being a trade union, and not trying to be a fucking superstate. They chose Europe of all places to unify people that have divisions going back for millenia.

>>32115114
We Finns like you Polish bastards :)

Kemppi and Esab artists.

>>32116069
I wholeheartedly agree with you, But the ultimate goal of the EU is nothing less of that.

Here's the challenge: Each and every country resorts to their personal preferences. Each and every country also have their suspicions to each other.

So, regarding EU the Personal National Preferences prevail at this moment.

Personal preferences are the worst enemy of any unity.

Personal preferences fuck up things in a team that would work, and especially things that would work for a mission.

Don't you ever forget this.

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>can probably get a gatling gun with enough work
>ammo is expensive

>>32116682
Wait for it.

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>>32101685
>>32100581

Guys, look. Shit's fucked up.
But guess what? You can change that.

No, really. Hear me out. I call this one "the Americas effect". This isn't stupid as it sounds, just stick with me.

Most criminals and dumb people come from lower social classes. These are the people who hurt or kill themselves in stupid ways all the time. But they still do those stupid things because they're stupid and poor and have no choice. Primary interest group being low end criminals with very poor judgement skills, such as junkies. Currently most junkies carry knives with them. Surprisingly enough it's for self-defence (and ocassional robbing).

So what any of YOU can do is emulate a massive black market by giving out means for these people to manufacture weapons. Everybody has internet nowdays so you can spread extremely simple tutorials explaining how basic firearms are made. None of that luty SMG crap, but rather like pic related. You won't end up with useful guns by today's standards, but what you will end up with is a thriving underground movement that creates issues and eventually starts an armsrace among themselves. These issues will then force the middle and upper middle class(the voter base) to demand weapons which again forces the government to either

A) Dump a whole lot more money on the state security(police, military, armed guards), which will lead to more public dissatisfaction and braindrain.

OR

B) Relax firearms laws on the basis that obtaining firearms is easier than ever, and the middle and upper middle classes need weaponry for self-defence.

Even if they go with A we will eventually end with B, simply because it's economically and physically impossible solution which forces other social classes to obtain weapons by any means necessary. This paradoxically pumps more money into the armsrace, hence forcing A to become B. It doesn't matter what the government says if there's crazed junkies going around with guns.

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>>32118030
Not a very good plan desu. First of all it would have to be a luty or something to that effect as (in the uk) black powder and "obsolete caliber" firearms are legal without a licence. Also people would see more guns in the street and would seek even more control on guns and ammo. As the crux of their argument is, the more control, the less guns. They would not see it as a failure of the concept of gun law, but see it as a law not tight enough.

>>32118030
There are plenty home made gun videos on YouTube already. This is not a revolution, most people in the UK support gun control and are not itching to get out of the evil claws of an oppressive state. The only way it can be done is through above the board politics, as if you do anything to dodgy you will get arrested, tarnish gun users as criminals and worst of all destroy the public trust in you.

Most people in the UK don't know anything about guns at all, to them black=dangerous assault gun, they think air rifles (in .22 or .17) can be easily converted into deadly firearms and they dont know basic safey. I have had plenty of mates point loaded air rifles at me, thinking nothing of it.

>>32118030

>So what any of YOU can do is emulate a massive black market by giving out means for these people to manufacture weapons.

In a thread started by an OP who doesn't even have the willpower to look at his country's gun laws.

Are you for real?