Hey /k/, I've been wanting to purchase a Winchester lever

>>32067261
Don't even bother with lever actions unless you are looking for a nice wallhanger. No one can make them worth a damn under $2,500. And yes American made and Japanese lever actions are absolute shit.

>>32067341
Hm, thanks for the tip. That's a little disappointing though. I really like lever actions but have never owned one so this is news to me. Any specifics what makes them poorly made? I thought brands like Marlin and Henry were generally good at quality control.

>>32067341
quit shitposting everywhere you annoying double-nigger

>>32067261
Pawnshop, likely not to get gouged and as long as bubba didn't fuck it and it looks good, it'll do.

>>32067412
He's blowing smoke out his ass. Any modern production Browning, Winchester, Marlin, or Rossi will do just fucking fine.

Most of Browning and Winchester's guns are made in Japan and are extremely good quality.

Miroku and Howa make fantastic rifles and shotguns at all different price-points.

>>32067341
Kill yourself

>>32067341
Fuck off and die

>>32067437
Oh, okay. That's nice to know. For a second there I was a bit discouraged about getting one.

>>32067341
Shitty trolling.

>>32068200
And yet your dumb asses still somehow got hooked harder than a meth addict.

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>>32068721
(you)

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>>32067341

>>32067261

My grandpa gave me a Winchester 30-30, made in the 50's. I've put about 60 rounds through it, beat up my shoulder. nobullypls.

>>32067261
Uncle gave me a 40's-50's .32 win spec, it's gorgeous and well made (like all pre-64's)

>>32067486
If this is your first lever gun I recommend one in .357 Magnum. You can use cheap little .38 Special for target practice and share ammo with a revolver.

>>32067341
>Obvious Bait
>Trying to revive a trip who has been kill for like 4 years

You could do better desu, at least people seeing yan/k/ee would probably trigger some people. Hunter was just an autist

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>>32067261
>but I've seen people mentioning that they're made in Japan. Does this imply that they're poorly made?
FUCK no. They are great. But if you really want to support an American company then buy a brand new Marlin lever action. But if you are dead set on getting a Winchester. Get an 1894 both Pre and Post 1964 models can be had for under 500.

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>>32067261
You could try a Browning. Still made in Japan and hard to find. But I love mine and it's great.

>>32067437
I'd avoid the Rossi if you can afford better though. I had their m92 in 357 for a while and I got so sick of the poor quality and machining I sold it for reloading equipment

The .357 level action my cousin had was fun as fuck to shoot. I'm a terrible shot but god damn was it fun to use.

I personally love my Uberti 1873 Carbine in .45 Colt.

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>>32068913
Shoot more cry less

>>32071772
I'd like to get my hands on a Texan 336. Something about that classic straight stock look.

>>32069085
The only Browning levergun I'd recommend is the BLR due to boxmag/spitzer novelty.

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>>32071802
The lines are what draw me to leverguns

>>32068913

Off the bench?

They're light guns with steel buttplate. I have a 1906 saddle ring carbine in 30-30 that's extremely uncomfortable off the bench but a pussycat offhand.

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I plan on getting a Henry, still trying to figure out what to get it chambered in. Would like a 45-70 at some point regardless. Go for the matte blue steel, cheaper, you don't have to worry about tarnished brass, and the stock has padding.

>>32069072
Marlin has shit quality control these days. Henry is US made and they do a fantastic job. The magazine can be emptied without cycling, but the one draw back for a Henry is you can't side-load.

OP, the Japanese-made Winchesters are actually much better than any American Winchester made after 1964. They aren't cheap--I think the entry-level ones go for like $1000--but you do get what you pay for with them. The main reason that the detractors don't like the Miroku Winchesters is merely because they are (rightfully) aghast that a product so firmly entrenched in American history that was invented by Americans can evidently be made better and more cheaply than in America itself. Thanks investor rights laws, corporate culture, and labor unions!

Also, if you happen to want an American-made lever gun, I suggest you go with Henry. Their products are made in America from only American components, and the build quality on all of their products that I have personally handled or inspected was excellent. They will generally cost quite a bit less than an equivalent Winchester but more than a Marlin or Rossi.

Regarding Marlin and Rossi, you should stay away from the former and buy the latter if you're on a budget. Modern Marlin is owned by the Freedom Group (if you're not familiar with them, they're corporate raiders of the gun industry), and their quality in recent years has gone through the floor. Rossi makes the cheapest lever guns around, but they're decent for their price point. Their typically rough fit and finish can usually be corrected with a little bit of effort on the part of the end user.

>>32073382
>Would like a 45-70 at some point regardless.

If only shooting a box of .45-70 wasn't like burning money...

>>32073574
Shooting any ammo is by definition burning money.
But it's like burning $1 bill and a $5 bill.

>>32073547
I heard pre-buyout marlins are great for the money.

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I have a rossi in 357 I love.

What is a good next levergun cartridge to get?

Should I get a 44, a 45Lc? I mostly plink.

I also was considering a 30-30 or to finally get a huge boolit gun a 45-70.

Not gonna lie 45-70 is appealing just to have big dick bullets.

>>32067261
Japanese-made guns are like Japanese cars, in that they're much nicer for the money than the American equivalent.

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>>32074612
Get a six shooter in .357 to match that Rossi. If money is tight, settle on a uberti cattleman. The absolute lowest tier uberti can be made pretty with some synthetic steel wool. Pic related.

>>32067261
China's the one you gotta look out for. When it comes from Japan, I'd probably rate the product at a 5-7/10, being 'mediocre' in quality. Just don't touch Chinese shit and you'll be fine.

>>32073382
do 357; you can do cheap 38 or use 357 for some surprisingly good power due to the longer barrel length.

>>32075395
Actually, assuming that the data on BallisticsByTheInch is legit, .357 Magnum has some pretty incredible potential muzzle energy when fired out of a gun with a 16+ inch barrel. It allegedly exceeds .223 fired out of a barrel of the same length and surpasses every other tested handgun caliber with the exception of .41 Magnum.

Not bad for a handgun round.

>>32073416
New production marlins are fine. I mean like, 2016 made guns. 2007-2014 I wouldn't trust. They may still have so-so finish and wood fitment, though. I've been trying to decide between a Henry and a marlin in .44mag for a while now, and while the Henry quality is without question better than Marlin, the lack of a loading gate really annoys me.

>>32075555
That annoys me as well. Pretty much the only reason I don't have a Henry. I think some of their 30-30 models might have it but I've not checked in some time.

>>32073382
I had a Henry .45-70 once. Wasn't terribly expensive to feed once I found a guy who could reload for cheap. I was averaging like 40 cents a round...and that goes a long way because .45-70 beats the shit out of you and you start flinching pretty hard.

It was a great rifle though. Smooth and accurate and fast as fuck. Had to get rid of it to pay for some stuff

>>32067261
I have a good old Henry repeater. ..the things a beautiful wall hanger and shoots great and it's made in America

>>32075555
Checked and I have a 2016 Marlin 336 and it's a great gun.

Dicks Sporting Goods has Marlin 336 30-30 on sale for Black Friday...
> Marlin 336 $399.99 comes with $50 mail in rebate
> Total $349.99 plus tax and Dros

>>32079603
unless its a 336w its a 75 dollar rebate
i was gonna get one to promo is good from 24-27 of this month
http://www.marlinfirearms.com/Rebates/rebates_blackfriday2016.asp

>>32079618
Its California, Ventura County..... so might not be the Marlin 336w...

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>>32068939
Great another person looking for my next list item.

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>>32069035
Has it really been 4 years since hunter 3-1 faggotual?

> How long has it been since CSF?

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>>32067261
pre 64 or bust

>>32081743
>pre 64
>in a caliber I want
Doesn't exist....

>>32082599
But .30-30 is all you'll ever need.

>>32071454
Have a Rossi 92 I bought new. Their machining on the metal parts is pretty rough.

>>32081743
What's the pre 64 mean?
Were they built better before 1964 or what's the deal?

>>32082629
I need .44mag

>>32082794
Basically.

>>32080736
How long since Zed

>>32082794
In the early 1960s, what happened to Winchester is what's happening to Sig right now: a bunch of bean counters who had no problems with gutting the company's reputation for short-term profit took over management and decided that the best way to increase margins was to cut costs. They did so, and did so drastically.

Parts that previously had been forged were almost universally replaced with cast, stamped, or sintered components. Stocks that had previously been walnut were now made of stained beech instead. Externally, the fit and finish plummeted to such an extent that even the gun magazines, which are normally in bed with American manufacturers and go along with whatever they do, decried how markedly terrible-looking and terrible-handling the new Winchesters were.

This is not to say that the post-64 guns didn't work--because they were generally alright in that respect--but 1964 marked the cutoff point from when Winchester went from being a prestige brand known for making the best leverguns around to being just another face in the crowd of mediocre manufacturers. While there were later attempts to try and undo some of the damage, it was too late.

This is why Winchester's modern situation is sad and hilarious. The Japanese Winchesters are extremely good, and, while they definitely aren't the equal of the better examples from before 1964, they are noticeably better than any of the American Winchesters made after '64.

>>32071454
It'd be a lot smoother if you shot it more

>>32083033
thank you for such an in depth answer.
i didn't know sig was doing this know, thats unfortunate they have a pretty good rep. i have one of there older colt suaer bolt cations which is pretty nice.

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>>32083033
This shit happens constantly, throughout damn near every industry in America. Grandpa Adolf's solution for preventing the over-financialization of the economy is looking more and more appealing.

what are some iconic lever action rifles? I'm gonna get the golden boy, 1895 sbl, would be nice to have one in 357 and 44

>>32083520
The 1873 Winchester is the most famous and iconic one. It's not the best of them mechanically though. The Winchester 1892 and 1894 were designed by JMB and probably represent the pinnacle of lever action rifle design.

>>32083520
Winchester 1895 in 7.62x54r ("the lever nugget") or .30-06.