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First for America's Navy.

What exactly does SERE do?

What branch, and MOS can you use the get the maximum enlistment bonus?

>>32061448
14T army 6 year contract

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Is it true the Air Force uses terms like "micro-aggressions", "trigger warnings", "personality colors", "rape culture" and "toxic masculinity" completely unironically?

Why? That sounds more like a corporate hellhole environment, not a military branch. Why not just work in a normal job if you have to deal with creepy SJW garbage?

How do I know if I'm a good fit for 11B, will I be fine as long as I have no problem with authority?

>>32061504
Never heard any of these, only been in a year though. And I'm a nonner. Guarantee if you say that shit on an aircraft, on the flightline, or on the battlefield you'd be mocked relentlessly.

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>>32061347
USAF guys? Go to cool guy schools without getting to do cool guy shit.

They teach the school at Fairchild and act as SMEs and liasons on deployments. Some units have full time support for 5 or 76 skill level guys.

Best army mos for someone who wants to be a state trooper after getting out?

>>32061610
Doesn't matter

>>32061610
mp :^)

>>32061347
Rape squirrels and eat snakes

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Cop or not?

>>32061448
Navy Nuke :^)

Thinking about joining the US Army as a Combat Engineer. Is this a good pic as an MOS? I was looking at combat arms specialties and it was the one that really caught my eye. But I'm open to suggestions of any other MOS, or any other branches. I really haven't made my mind up yet besides the fact that I want to join.

>>32061264
What are the most over/undervalued jobs?

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>>32062683
Over?

>MUH DRONES

Under? Pic related.

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>>32061323
Navy vet, got any questions?

>>32062683
>navy
>under
This is gonna sound like a joke, but cooks.
Most people think the food sucks cause the cooks dont care which aint true. Its cause the ingredients are the lowest quality youll ever see and the recipes suck ass. People shit on them constantly but they still cook all day long.
>over
IT
Its still a great job dont get me wrong but its nowhere near as tough as people think it is. They just chill in radio in play ps4 and have access to the phone that lets you call home underway. Again, its a great job but nowhere near what people think it is.

>>32062805
Is GM a good rating? I graduated HS recently, and I'm contemplating joining the military, and Gunner's Mate looks pretty cool.

>>32062819
Good overall, yes.
It may not be good for you though. I dont know what youre looking for or what you want to do for a job.

>>32062885
Tell me what's up with it. The articles that I've read are kind of vague about what they do. Are they basically machine gunners and riflemen on ships?

Feel free to recommend other ratings. I'm just trying to join the military. I've had this desire since I was a young kid to do it.

Anyone else here miss the original faggots that started up this general?

>>32062989
Well they maintain and use weapon systems. Lots of maintenance so you better enjoy getting greasy sometimes and working with your hands.
http://www.public.navy.mil/bupers-npc/enlisted/community/surface_cs_ops/Pages/GM.aspx
The most important thing is picking the right job. You could have the best experience in the world or the worst based on that. Dont take it lightly. Again, i dont know what you like so i cant recommend things.
Do you like working inside or outside?
Working with hands or mind?
Computers or machines?
Ship or shore?
I need details nigger

>>32063032
>inside or outside
Outside.
>Working with hands or mind?
Can I say both? If you can teach me how to do it with my hands, then I'll pick it up and figure it out. But things come naturally if it's a sort of mind problem.
>Computers or machines?
Machines. I can't code for shit.
>Ship or shore?
Ship.
>I need details nigger
I'm a suburban white guy from outside of Philly. I smoked weed all throughout high school and got good grades but I didn't do sports or any of that shit. But I love my country and I've felt for most of my life that I have an obligation to serve it.

>>32063077
Ok well do you actually want to get down and dirty on a daily basis? Like do you look forward to getting covered in dirt and grease or only if it calls for it?

>>32063184
Yeah, I really don't care. I'm not a germophobe clean freak faggot.

>>32063206
Well it sounds like BM is a good fit. Youre outside and working hard.
Problems are that it is a very tough rate. Lots of work with little reward. Its thankless work, slow advancement.
If you only wanna do 4 and get out it aint the end of the world but wouldnt recommend if you wanna stay in.
GM is still a great choice and will give you sweet re-enlistment bonuses and a smarter group of people to work with.
If you wanted to work on engines but sacrifice being outside you could go into engineering. GSE or GSM are good choices.

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Does anyone know anything about 1C6X1(Space Systems Operations)? It sounds good, but just want some advice.

>>32063274
>satellites

Mostly space GPS. Had a buddy retrain into it and work on shuttle support at Patrick AFB, but now I think they just do launch support on whatever. These guys also operate early warning radar and missile tracking stations all over, as well as space surveillance and object tracking.

>>32063262
GM sounds pretty good for me. I think I'm going to consider that rating.

Thanks for all the help.

I want to enlist in the USMC as an 0311 or 0351 but I'm in school right now (freshman year, Norwich Uni). I'd join the reserves but I've heard it's really difficult to transfer to active duty, and that's where I want to end up. Anyone have any advice? Should I just sit tight and enlist active after I graduate?

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>>32063751
If you're a billy badass, MARSOC takes reservists into A&S, and if you make it, active.

I don't know what units are up there, but there are some recon slots around for the reserve, know a lot of guys from 3d Force that went this route.

>>32063707
Yep np nigguh

>>32063751
Yeah. I was an 0311. If you enlisted in the Marines with a college degree I'd haze the fucking shit out of you.

Not because you'd join as an e3, because you're a fucking retard. I'm not saying Infantry Marines are stupid, we have some really smart guys despite what the memes on /k/ say. But enlisted Marine Infantry isn't for college graduates.

Drop out now, and join. Or rethink shit altogether. If your parents are paying for college, tell them you want to enlist and use GI Bill, see if they'll buy you a nice car with all the money they'll save instead.

>>32063751

I'm in college as well and thinking about going Reserves. From what I understand it takes about a year to go active duty but that doesn't mean it can't happen.

>>32063960

How did you like it, would you say the training was valuable?

>>32062805
What are some good enlisted logistical/resource/administration jobs?

>>32063751
>>32064047
Enlist BEFORE you gradute. Why get into debt? Drop out and join now and go to school after. Also, id advise against marines for all the reasons you already know. Go army 11b and if you want to be billy badass then get Opt40.

>>32063960
You're fucking retarded.

>>32063751
Just do what you want. I joined infantry the week after I graduated with a bachelors degree in English Ed and haven't regretted it.

>>32064060
>logistical/resource/administration jobs?
Lol look man youre gonna get shit on if you choose those. Those jobs are for women and faggots. If you wanna sit on your ass and do paperwork all day then theyre all good for that. Trust me and choose something else. Especially cause if you aint filipino you aint gonna go far in supply.

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What job is most likely to turn you into this? SWO?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFeKOrU7W0k

>>32064047
>Valuable

Depends on your definition.

>>32064086
No friend. You're fucking retarded. Must feel good being able to waste dad and moms money. A college degree brings absolutely nothing to the table except initial rank increase. Oh well, enjoy that peace time garrison you seem to like.

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>>32064173
>implying that I'm going to be in the marines for the rest of my life
I'm just saying that someone shouldn't drop out of fucking college if they want to join the marines just because some fuckwit on 4chan threatens to haze them for having a degree.

>>32064221
Not that guy but no ones is hazing him you faggot hes sayin why waste the money

>>32064221
Must of had a low GPA. I said I "was" one. It was a figure of speech to make a point.

Now I have my degree. Maybe if you didn't pick a stupid major could of got a job. Instead I'd of been 19 and you'd be my filthy college graduate boot. Haha, you're fucking stupid dude.

>>32064262
Never suggested he was.

>>32064267
Wasn't referring to you.

>>32064367
>Never suggested he was
No you idiot we are saying that. Why get a degree than enlist? It doesnt make sense. He should enlist first than get his degree after for free with the Gi Bill.

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>>32064367
You talking to me? You talking to me? Well I'm the only (You) here.

Whatever I said my peace. I'm gonna pull a Danny Glover, I'm too old for this shit.

What skills would a police department be looking for in a cadet? I know any sort of military service is desirable, but if I can learn a unique skill from the military I guess I should probably go for it.

>>32064502
You're that guy who's been asking about this for months now right? They just want you to check off the veterans box. Pick whichever MOS you want
>captcha: Specialist

>>32064583
No idea what you're talking about. :^)

Please help. How long does it take to become an 11B?

Is it 14 weeks or is it 10 weeks +14 weeks for a total of 24 weeks?

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Why does everyone say "Go officer" over and over if you have a degree?

I'm planning on joining the Guard, I mentioned enlisting as an 11b but my recruiter was like "Dude, with that degree you 100% should be going officer."

I went online and that seems to be the consensus pretty much everywhere.

From my understanding officers are the ones who are more like coaches on the football team rather than the players.

>>32064968
>coaches vs players
Looks like somebody read "It's Time to End the Enlisted/Officer Divide" recently.

>>32064968
They say that cause from a standard pov most people are thinking long term and would rather be the coach.
Its more money
Less work
No physical work
More stress though cause you are the catch all for responsibility if someone fucks up
But yes, enlisted get there hands dirty and officers pay lip service.
Why national guard though? Why not active army?

>>32064968
For salary, career prospects and quality of life. If you really really want to go infantry then do it. But it's objectively the inferior decision.

>>32064968

There's a decent argument to be made for enlisting active duty if there's a job you really want to do hands-on. For instance, you wanna fly drones in the Army? Doesn't make sense to go officer. Wanna do cyber warfare? Done by enlisted. Wanna be a programmer? Enlisted. Special Forces? Enlisted is the more direct route.

You're not talking about active duty though, you're talking about the Guard. Nobody actually does their job in the Guard, so there's no argument to be made here. There's pretty much no upside to enlisting as a part-timer.

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Thinking about active duty Army. I'm considering mostly combat arms because that's what my mindset is geared towards right now, but I'm open to any suggestions.

I went online and looked at some of the MOS's and I saw a couple that I think would be interesting: 19k, 12b, 19d, 35m, 35f, and 11x. Sorry if that was a slew of shit, just wanted to put all of it out there.

So, what's the best MOS there? Or did I overlook one?

>>32065663
the best mos is pog mos

>>32065724
Any specific one?

>>32065733
it all depends on what you actually want to do
i'm medical cause medical is the pog-est

>>32065760
not if you're a medic
>in a unit other than a mechanized division

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>>32064711
>tfw no one helps you

>>32065760
I guess out of the ones I listed, 35m/35f are the closest to pog-tier. I've only really ever thought about or considered the combat arms roles so I haven't really given a thought towards the non-combat jobs.

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>>32065784
>going whiskey when there are like 15 other medical MOS that are relaxed as fuck

>>32065792
35M sees deployment often from what I know. Only downside to that MOS is you come out thinking you're better than everyone and no one really likes 35m's.
35F is like general MI, not too exciting. Also promotion is pretty hard in that MOS, expecially above e-6. pretty impossible unless you're some super highspeed that knows all MI. not sure how much combat they see

If you want to go combat, might as well go the tried and true 11b. if you can make it as 11x i'd go for that over others, but you don't really want to be artillery from what I've heard, and I don't really know anything about the 19 series.

>>32065855
>implying i don't just pcms vehicles all day while pretending to be a badass to civvie chicks

>>32065900
that sounds like something you guys would do

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>>32065975
it's not what i want tho. i want to do my actual job. but i'm brand fucking new here and we have 10 e-5's to like 8 joes. hopefully going to air assault next week will take my mind off this bullshit ass unit

>>32066013
ah you fresh out of AIT?

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Does this make you more likely to join?

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>>32066032
yee nigguh

>>32066032
you a charlie or some shit?

>>32066068
hope you're far away from the shithole that is fsh
i pray i commission before having to go through BLC there

>>32064968
The grass is always greener on the other side.

>>32066068
Fresh outa saving the thumbnail.

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Is it possible to sign up for the Virginia Air National Guard, get a degree at the same time, and the become a pilot in either the reserves or active duty?

>>32066110
nah, uniform

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>>32066115
fort sam's better than riley tho
>>32066136
one of my coolest instructor went from whiskey to uniform

>>32061679
Go for it my dude

>>32066129
no
any pilot slots would go to pilots coming down from active or who already know how to fly

>>32066162
yeah i guess, there are a few bases worse I just try to not think about them and hope I never get assigned there. i think the only shithole that has slots for uniforms is polk and they filled that shit recently
and uniform used to be an identifier for whiskeys but they just made it a full mos

>>32066184
What if I get a PPL?

>>32061264
I'm taking the ASVAB soon any last minute help would be appreciated.

>>32066191
bullshit your way through it that's how i got a 97
also hope you remember formulas from like 10th grade geometry

>>32066208
Gotcha.

>>32066186
i'm hoping if i pass ASS assault they'll let me pcs on over to campbell but that's probably not happening

What's my competition when it comes to becoming an Officer in the Army? I can go on and on about how good I am in strategy, politics, and leadership but nobody will really care about it if it in the form of a college degree

Daily reminder to NEETfriends

Do not enlist, the military will not give you a reason to participate in society, any lies or fabrications about pride or purpose are constructs of recruiters

The military is a shithole full of chads and your life will be dictated by literal gibsmedats with office jobs

Do not enlist, find some other way to fix yourself.

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What do 35Ms do exactly? Do they get to go and do/see much when deployed?

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civvi here

Go out and fight for me. I've got shit to do and I can't have muzzies blowing up my car
But try not to die, burials cost money

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>>32066241
>going to campbell in 2 days
too bad i don't get the sick 101st patch

>>32066289
not true, ex neet living the good life since enlisting.

>>32066318
why not senpai? get the meddac instead?

>>32066347
yeah the meddac badge is so boring and every fucking hospital uses it
wish i got something badass

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>>32066362
git gud

>>32066416
feels medcom man

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>>32066509
SOOOOOON

Any anons in USAF as a cyber system operations? If so how is it?

Current POG wanting to reenlist to 11B will they send me to osut or the complete basic training?

What are most branch's take on sleeve tattoos? Are they a no go/go for different branched?

Is 11B worth it? Will I really catch a bad habit, be around idiots everyday, and waste my time as I've heard some people say?

>>32067106
Not talking from experience, but what I've read is that you might get to skip basic, or get put at some week in basic, or go to second part of OSUT.

For Americans.

Always try and see if the Army will take you in as a Warrant Officer Helicopter Pilot, before enlisting with anyone else or as anything else in the Army.

You get a sweet mustache, a motorcycle, and you don't have the shit that enlisted have in their lives.

>>32067504
>a motorcycle
wot

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>>32067477
If you just want the GI Bill go POG with the lowest contract years you can find
I can tell you right now pog life has too much politics from dick sucking officers to entitled little weak fucks that go on profile right after AIT

>>32067722
sup brother what unit you in

>>32067593
in my experience, all warrant officer pilots have had, currently have, or will have a motorcycle.

>>32067740
I'm in the sustainment brigade

>>32067722
No I don't just want the GI Bill. I'm joining to serve and for the life experience. Want 35P but if I don't get a good ST on the ASVAB and pass DLAB it's over. Then I might just go 11B. Just looking for some advice from someone that knows to be honest.

>>32067477
>>32067722
first thing you should do. If you are just looking for benefits and not really in it for the military life/career. Shop around the various states' national guard units.

you can find a unit that will almost guarantee you an instant promotion to Sgt upon leaving AIT and arriving at your unit. Then the state pays you to go to school for being in the guard. Not even touching the GI Bill. Once you finished college. You use your first of second reenlistment to go active military. As an officer or you change MOS into something with easy promotion points to Ssg. Look at the mos in and out calls. IF they are allowing people into the MOS and no one out of teh mos, plus it has high points to sgt, but low points to ssg. Then it has no ssgs, no SFCs and probably no e8s.

>>32067477
>Will I really catch a bad habit, be around idiots everyday, and waste my time as I've heard some people say?
that's every MOS. 11B has it's ups and downs, but I'm glad I did it. Mostly because I didn't want a job with paperwork or sitting behind a desk. Then I became a Sgt and my life revolved around shoving counseling statements up the ass of my dumb ass Joe's (one AWOL, one who lived off post and could never get to PT formation because he was up all night playing EQ2, one DUI that was off post thankfully)
Go 11Bang, you get the exact same bennies as a Pog, just better war stories

>>32067835
>instant promotion to Sgt upon leaving AIT
not gonna happen in the Guard, mother fuckers don't get promoted past Spc unless someone dies/ETSs or retires.
>Then the state pays you to go to school
that depends on the state, some it's "as funds are available" and if you fuck up and miss/ stop going to drill you could find yourself paying that back.

>>32061264

I take Zoloft, can I just lie or do I really have to wait 2 years before enlisting?

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What is the best type of Warrant Officer? Should I go to WOS or OCS?

>>32067894
This is why you shop for a unit. Every twater I knew a it that was guard. Was a Sgt or better with in a year.

>>32061504
>personality colors
new one on me, what's that?

>>32067835
>Once you finished college. You use your first of second reenlistment to go active military. As an officer
Could one become a pilot this way?

>>32066289
>t.butthurt loser who got denied at meps the post
>>32067761
Thx to top gun

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>>32063751
I was an 0311 but I cross trained to be a 0351. I'd go for the 51 since you do alot of cool shit
>Get to shoot fucking rockets until your deaf
>Get to learn demo and use it
>Not be trapped in a line platoon with all the other 11's
Though maybe I'm lucky and you'll end up like that terminal lance comic but I've enjoyed my time as a 51 100x more than an 11. And you'll end up doing alot of 11 shit anyways

>>32068150
Thers no such thing as "best". Thyre all different and depend on what you were as an enlisted. If you are talking about the army helo pilot type thats unique.

>>32064711
Just 14-16 weeks solid iirc. After the 10th week, it transitions into your AIT.

>>32064968
If you're making enough money in the civilian world, there's no significant reason to go officer in the Guard. Think of your drill weekends and such like a club where you get to blow off steam from your civilian life and shoot things.

Any USAF CCT advice?

>>32068150
Here you go, list of enlisted feeder MOS's (what you need to be to become a specific WO MOS
http://www.usarec.army.mil/hq/warrant/Wogeninfo_mos.shtml

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>>32069469
Thanks dude.

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So I am in a bit of a dilemma.

I want to join the military as an officer.

I have been shooting for Navy EOD via OCS. My recruiter seems to confident I could get selected for it due to my OAR score, PT scores, and background/education/experience/skills. However I know they source almost entirely from prior enlisted. Plus their boards are once a year in September. Though they will pick a civilian up every once in a while.

This is my first choice and what I want the most. I am 23 (will be 24 by the time boards role around).

My question is, do you think it is worth seeing this through up until boards and at least taking a shot at it?

Or is it too big of a waste of time that would screw up my career trajectory and should just join the army via OCS and do my best to become an officer there?

The basic question is, is risking a great thing later better than taking a good thing now?

>>32069480
>Shooting things at drill

Motherfucker my active unit only gets out to the range like once a year, and not everyone gets to go. The hell makes you think that guard units have the funds to go regularly?

You'll get to shoot once every few years to qualify if you're lucky.

any ausfags in here?
is enlisting in the ADF worth a go or nah

>>32062805
>Most people think the food sucks cause the cooks dont care which aint true. Its cause the ingredients are the lowest quality youll ever see
This bears repeating.

>>32069594
Yeah fuckit yolo

>>32065115

House, wife, good career. Good setup but still want to be in. Found the National Guard that way.

Fucked a navy dude on a base last night and wow the Navy sounds fucking shitty if you're a nurse. Portsmouth VA seems boring as hell if you're on base.

>>32064711
Use google numbnuts

How do I become less of a pussy?

>>32067426
Ask google

The general concensus is as long as it's not racist, sexist, promotes an extreme ideology(something like "gas all the liberals"), homophobic, etc. and it's not visible when in uniform(nothing above the collar, nothing past the wrist(in the Army, one wring tattoo per hand is allowed)) and you're gucci

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>>32065787
2 sec search yielded results. You might wanna go 92G bro.

Good reasons for joining the army?

>>32061549
What the fuck? Is that bob from airsoftgi?

>>32072268
if you're a neet they tell you what to do when to do it how to do it
they pay for all living expenses
you can see other places in the world

So I just called my local recruiting office trying to get more info about 153A (warrant officer, helicopter pilot) and the Street To Seat program. The woman on the phone asked me if I've ever been fingerprinted/handcuffed and what for. I told her I had a citation for weed once that's not on my record and she said that disqualified me. Am I fucked, do I call another recruiter, do I abandon my dreams of being an officer/warrant officer or what? This really took the wind out of my sails.

>>32061264
reposting from another thread,

I have completed about 7 college courses so far and my major is electrical engineering. I still have a while to go because I'm starting from the bottom and attending a community college.
I'm currently 23 and I really want to get into the AF ROTC program with the intention of getting a scholarship and becoming an officer. I currently have no wheels and take classes online. What do I do? Is it too late? I already have to take so many extra classes to get into a university program, they also have you do classes? Can i take my time? Also working 40+ hours a week right now

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This is probably a stupid question, but when you're in-country, you're pretty much locked into your given location for the entire time, right? While you're on base waiting for assignment, is there ever a point where you can take some leave and do a day or two of travel? I figure the intel boys in Kabul might take some time to visit Herat or something.

I know you're not there as a fucking tourist, but years of watching Lawrence of Arabia leaves me with the notion that you can fuck around a tiny bit.

>>32072640
Call another recruiter. If it was just your first time on the phone, they don't record shit. Hell, you could probably just call the same station again in a couple weeks.

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>>32061504
Never have I once heard those in any brief and I've been in a year and had dozens of briefings about sexual assault rape etc.

>>32072855
Will do. I guess to ask again, could a weed citation (not even a misdemeanor) derail my chances at a military career? I'm clearly not trying to enlist. I don't even want to do anything else after college but serve honestly...

>>32072987
It's less and less of an issue every year, but you still need a moral waiver and to swear up and down that you only smoked weed that one time and never again and shit. If a job is scarce (like a WOFT packet sure as hell is), they can just move past you to someone with less baggage holding him back. In the current military it'll be over a year before you even know if your SIFT test is approved and if you've been accepted into the program, and I don't know if you want to wait an additional year for a moral waiver to process.

The only way a non-record citation would get found out is if you went for a Top Secret clearance and they just happened to tag someone who hates you for interviewing.

Trust me dude, I had to wait 10 months for a waiver to pass for some scars on my legs from skateboarding. If you can sidestep that bullshit, it's so much better for everyone involved.

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>>32068290
>>32061504
This stuff maybe?

https://www.reddit.com/r/AirForce/comments/39jl7j/what_color_are_you_four_lenses_talk/

Four Lenses, some horoscope tier bullshit Air Force NCOs teach.

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Can I wear my boots with civies?
I know its douchy to do, but I just got stationed in Ft Drum from AIT and dont own civilian boots yet and we got some snow today
I just am gunna walk to the defac in a bit

>>32073613
Who the hell cares? This is why we need to beat our enlisted.

>>32073560
Four lenses is about your personality and how it affects your management style. Nothing to do with >muh feels

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>>32073626
I know there are rules about mixing civilian clothing and issued gear.
I got bitched out by some e-5 at the defac the other day for wearing a white t shirt and gym shorts which is apparently against the "dress code" in this place

>>32073613
You just look like a boot

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>>32061504
They teach you the important things no normal person would ever think of.

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>>32073973

So if I can't get a security clearance because I'm not a citizen are there any of the tech jobs that are worth a damn or should I just go combat arms? I would have liked to work with radios and shit but all the interesting ones require a secret clearance. So if my only options are being a mechanic or other shitty jobs I'd rather just go infantry or combat engineer.

The only tech job that looks decent is avionics repairs, is it any good?

>>32069594
Do it faggot.

I am in college and plan on joining the Army after I graduate. If I go through OCS am I destined for a life of corporate dick sucking and regulations? I really want to do airborne school and all that shit but don't know if being an officer would limit that

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>>32070127
Its 100% true and most people will never know. Not sure if the other branches have an equivalent but in the NAVY you go cranking and work with the cooks. I was cranking for 5 months straight and those guys love food and cooking. The problem is the fucking shit they get sent is complete trash.

>>32070642
That happens to navy hms, they can get stationed at some bumb fuck hospital.

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Amtracker, ask me anything

>>32069485
I second this, I'm considering it and am wondering if it is worth it.

>>32072268

Good career control, fast promotions, widest range of jobs.

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>Be former high school cross-country/track runner
>Have gotten out of shape
>Recently became interested in 18x/rep 63
>Do research
>Everyone talks about how tough the standards are and how most wash out before even making it to selection
>*gulp*
>Check physical standards
>It's actually pretty comparable to the shape I was in when I ran cross country

Well damn, turns out that this is pretty attainable.

>>32076060
Ok.

>>32076060
>rep 63
?
And mate thats minimum standards to get in vs to making it through arent the same you realize that. Not saying you cant make it but those are just to get your foot in the door.

Newfag here 11x heading to benning jan 10th am I fucked boiz?

>>32076126
Many Infantryman came before you. Many will after you. Do what you're supposed to do, and you'll be fine.

Plan
>EOD
>Get civ pilot license
>Apply for tripple C or Acad
>Try to get mine defusing job in SA

The first step is finding out how to become EOD
resources to help?

>>32076078

Rep 63 is 18x for national guard.

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Should I join the Navy Reserve or National Guard /k/?

>>32076346
Neither, go navy active. Please trust me. What rates you looking at?

>>32076480

I wanna do IS, but I have a pretty decent career right now and don't wanna give that up. Reserves are looking alot better for me right now.

>>32066822
I am also wondering this, my preferred job from the research I've done

>>32076493
Why even do it then? IS is a good choice though.

>>32073613
You can but everyone will immediately identify you as a Joe.

>>32072837
>is there ever a point where you can take some leave and do a day or two of travel? I figure the intel boys in Kabul might take some time to visit Herat or something.

LOL no.

>>32076078

It's the reserve equivalent to 18x.

I'm thinking that if I'm in good enough shape to pass when I join then basic training, infantry training, and preparatory training will put me in good shape for the actual training itself if I can pass the bar to get to try out.

>>32076653

I wanna serve my country but I can't commit to active duty because I'm 25 and have a good career. I think this is why most people join the reserves in the first place

>>32064267
>Must of had a low GPA.

>Maybe if you didn't pick a stupid major could of got a job.

*have

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>>32076697
But thats my point. You arent actually serving anything. The reserves are a complete joke. Most people ACTUALLY join it to take advantage of the benefits. Joining the reserves to serve is just virtue signaling and patting yourself on the back. Im not talking shit im just saying you arent actually going to be doing anything. If you actually want to make a difference you gotta go active.

If we were still at war and yo were full support reserves than chances are yuo would be deploying and would be doing something real, but during peace time and if youre in the weekend warrior type you arent going to be doing jack shit especially as an IS.

>>32076686
Bro going from national guard or reserves to active is super fucking difficult. If your goal is to eventually be active just go active from day 1. Spend an extra 6 months getting in excellent shape then just go active.

>>32076791
>Correcting grammar on 4chinz

Let me know how that works out for you.

>>32065855
>35F is like general MI

Please enlighten me, what's "general MI"?

>>32076686
Everybody thinks that. those are the first to wash out.
You need to max the PFT or whatever before getting there. People take a year to get ready to go through those pipelines and still dont make it through.

>>32066290
>What do 35Ms do exactly?

Talking to people. That is literally the job. You're collecting HUMINT.

That means doing interrogations of detainees, doing debriefs of non detainees, talking to walk in sources (people who come up to US forces claiming they know about their cousin's friend planting an IED or some shit, or they know that we will pay them cash for information regardless of it's usefulness), walk around a neighborhood and talk to people during a cordon & search etc.

>>32076821
You just do MI shit not anything specific like mikes or gulfs or papas
probably process classified shit, some other bullshit like that
idk my brother's a gulf and told me that, i'm just medcom m8

>>32076874
>You just do MI shit not anything specific
So you don't know what you're talking about. Thanks for clearing that up.

t. 35F

>>32076896
np mate enjoy processing passports

>>32076907
>np mate enjoy processing passports

Lol. Your brother is a moron too. But it doesn't take a whole lot of analytical ability to look at pictures and place labels like "that's a car" and "this is a building" all day.

>>32076807

You're not getting it. It IS 18x, but for reserves. I'm not going active except when they activate me.

>>32076834

If everyone thinks that, and those are the first that wash out, then wouldn't everyone wash out?

>>32076985
>You're not getting it. It IS 18x, but for reserves. I'm not going active except when they activate me.
I am getting it, you wont be active though. Just cause you get deployed as a reservist doesnt make you active duty.

>>32076896
>>32076923

On second thought, maybe I was a little too harsh. It starts to wear thin when anons try to post answers to questions here when they don't know what they're talking about.

A 35F doesn't do "general MI stuff" because there is no "general MI stuff".

A 35F is an All Source Analyst. They (we) combine IMINT, SIGINT, HUMINT, and historical knowledge of a topic and turn it into predictive analysis. Usually this involves PIRs (Priority Intelligence Requirements) or a direct question from a customer. The goal of this analysis is to allow a customer (a policy maker or commander) to make an informed decision on policy.

After the product is finished we then present that analysis to the customer through briefings and papers.

An example:

Policy Maker X wants to know what the ramifications could be if we intervene in Syria or if we don't.

That question happens to fall into DIA analyst Y's portfolio (Middle East cell, Syria). So Y gathers up all the previous work in his or her portfolio regarding Syria, looks at relevant message traffic looking for IIRs and SIGINT, looks through OSINT, and makes a judgement call on the potential situation without US intervention and with US intervention. And then presents that to the customer. In the real world it's 30 seconds to 5 minutes in a briefing or a short paragraph/analyst comment to a page. Because policy makers are busy and you have to consolidate your analysis into easily digestible pieces.

So when you watch a movie and you see all those people from CIA and DIA briefing the JCOS and the POTUS because they are SMEs, those are the civilian equivalents of 35Fs.

>>32076985
Man you know what I mean, those that come in with that mentality fucking wash out.

>>32077019

I'm less concerned with beating my chest about being "active" than I am with finding a balance between serving my country in a special capacity and taking thetime to finish school.

>>32077035

Because they don't think that it's important to prepare and just assume that their normal training will do the job, I get that.

>>32070160
>>32074753
You guys are motivating me... It is working

>>32077050
Dude didnt you see what i said, the chances of you getting deployed is insanely low. Youre just patting yourself on the back.

>>32077083

My understanding is that over the course of a 6 year contract I can expect at least 1/4 of those years not spent in the training pipeline to be deployed, and going from NG sf to active sf is typically easier than other for another MOS.

>>32069594
Do you have a plan for the year in which you're putting your life on hold? It's a year that you're giving up for the chance at this, a low chance at that.

I've told you this already in past threads too but I forget the answer as to why not SEAL or why not enlist as EOD or Marine OCS but whatever. Besides there's a good chance nowadays Army OCS won't have combat arms nowadays available. 48G can elaborate on that.

I waited a year to get into OCS it fucking sucked putting my life on hold and just being in limbo

>>32077099
Look man lets say thats true. Then just go active. The first 2 years are gonna be training. So you got 4 years left. Youre saying youll be deployed at elast 1 years out of those 4. Well what about all the work up before hand and after? Its gonna be way more than you think. I just dont see why you wouldnt just go active. You can use TA to get your degree while in or just use the gi bill after to finish it for free.

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>>32077111
I do. Train and work and beef my competitiveness. I have a lot of job opportunities that I could take (already have a good job that looks good on application but will try to take more).

Always loved the idea of EOD and what they do. Plus you have the opportunity to work with SEALs. If I do some time with EOD then decide I want to go the SEAL route, I could give it a shot later on down the line too.

Why wouldnt army ocs have combat arms? Would marine corps be more likely to have that?

What branch did you go to OCS for?

Thanks for the elaborate response

>>32077154

Honestly? Because I want to finish my degree before I'm 30.

>>32077284
Leaving for Navy OCS soon

Army OCS need has gone down so they're just using it to fill in spots, which is what it's always been used for. But they need spots in logistics/transport/etc not so much combat arms nowadays. Marine Corps gets a good chunk of its officers from OCS so they'll have combat arms available.

>>32077348
I'd join the Marines if that happens.

>>32067777
Don't do it faggot I'm in Farsi at the Presidio and every day I want to mcfucking kill myself

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>>32077420
Interesting. From what I understand, Marine corps OCS allows people who have relevant expertise in certain areas to get "dibs" almost on branches relevant to them. Is that true? Like if someone speaks multiple critical languages and is educated in intelligence analysis in college that they could up their chances of branching ground intel, as opposed to the army which just gives you whatever they need. Is this true?

And how will you be branching at Navy OCS? Which route are you going?

>>32077312
But again why???
Whose paying for it? Cause like i said there are many ways to get it for free.

>>32077468
IPee officer

I haven't heard that. What I've heard is some colonels do attend TBS and look at the candidates and based upon needs/ranking of candidate/their desire they give you the branch. I'm sure they'll take that into account if you want to be an MI and have all that shit going for you when slots go. Also depends on how shithot you are in the rankings at TBS, top of class gets first choice etc

>>32077553
Why do you think the Marine Corps seems to care more about the officer candidate's backgrounds and desire for branching more than the army?

>>32077026
I hope you're still here I have a few questions.

1. Which 35x gets to actually go out into the field and do something?
2. Do intelligence officers actually get to do anything with regards to intelligence, or does the whole 'coach vs player' dynamic play in here?
3. I'm assuming that experience as 35x can lead to exit ops in private intelligence like Stratfor or Pinkerton?

>>32077599
I don't think they care all that much to be honest. At the end of the day it's "needs of the corps"
You join to be a Marine officer, not be MI/Infantry/Arty officer. That's why they have B billets and shit too.
>desire for branching
what do you mean by that

>>32077641
as in what the cadet wants to become. Like how they want to branch.

>>32077675
I don't know how army OCS does it. I'm just telling you how the Marines do it.

>>32077637
>1. Which 35x gets to actually go out into the field and do something?

It's unit and deployment dependent. 35L is the "cool guy" intel MOS, but it's not an IET MOS anymore (since like 2006).

But in general, most intelligence work is done at a desk, even for Operations and Collectors. You still have to write up IIRs and fill out contact reports, evaluate sources, and if your CI and working on a security investigation you are putting together a case file.

>2. Do intelligence officers actually get to do anything with regards to intelligence, or does the whole 'coach vs player' dynamic play in here?

In my experience Army MI is really top heavy compared to other CMFs. At least All Source Analysis is. When we were in Iraq at the J2 (theater wide intel shop), each team had an O3 and an O1/2, there was the battle captain (didn't have to be an O3), there were Air Force and Navy intel officers etc.

They would do some of the work, but for the most part were in a supervisory role. They would go over the products the enlisted created to check for any writing errors, make sure format was correct (this is important when you're creating ongoing products for the same customer so that you're not confusing them by changing shit around for no reason and aids in timeliness which is one of the key things to intel) etc.

>3. I'm assuming that experience as 35x can lead to exit ops in private intelligence like Stratfor or Pinkerton?

Not necessarily. You need credibility for that, and a single enlistment as a 35anything isn't enough. So you need to go to the civilian side and work at DIA, CIA, DOE etc. Or you can try contracting.

And for that you need a degree. DoD will not approve any contract hires (final hiring decision is with the fed, not the contracting company) unless they have a minimum of a 2 year degree. For federal civilian, your resume will go straight in the trash unless you provide a transcript that shows you have a minimum of a Bachelor's.

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If you go through OCS/OTS in any branch, does that basically preclude you from ever becoming anything above Colonel/Captain, with those even being longshots?

>>32078228
cont.

However, an enlistment as whatever 35 MOS interests you can give you veteran's preference (for the applicable agencies, CIA doesn't give veteran's preference points), experience in the field, an understanding of the intelligence process, and if you go All Source (35F) by the time you get to school to use your sweet post 9/11 bennies you'll have one of the most important and lacking skills of a student: the ability to research.

I've been out for a while now, in my senior year at my university. So all of these things are relevant for me. Additionally I'm involved with a DIA sponsored program here that allows me to network with agency recruiters and outreach personnel from the State Department, Department of Energy, DIA, CIA, FBI, NCTC, DEA, BATFE etc. so I can talk shop with them during events. Last Thursday was a panel on Domestic Terrorism and I got to talk to the DIA rep for the program and the DHS speaker about the increase in use of off the shelf drones. It gets my name and face out there so if I see them again during the hiring process or later on in my career they at least know me.

I'm also involved in some other programs that allow me to network outside of the IC.

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Marine or Army infantry, which one? I wanna see action or at least do cool training more often.

I tried being a SEAL and EOD but couldn't get contracted. The Army and Marines are my only options now.

>>32078412
Marines still haze people like putting them in dryers and encouraging them to jump off the barracks roof that's all I know
Army infantry still use the 'smoking' the shit outta you instead of putting it on paper
I'm just a enlisted army POG

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>>32078541
No we don't fagfuck. We just smoke them. I've been out since 2011.

Hazing is waking you up at 2 am and making you police call barracks. Or waking you up and do a couple shots then push-ups. Or some creative way of fucking with them. We don't treat our boots good, but it's not Russia.

Worst I saw was gas mask runs up Recon Hill. Go Army, whatever. Don't misrepresent my branch eleven bravo.

>>32078541
Oh you weren't 11b. Oh well what I said anyway. It's not that bad.

Once you prove you aren't a momma's boy, welcome to the club.

I submitted my SF86 about two weeks ago, I believe I'm being screened for TS

Is it the sort of thing where no news is good news? I'm not really sure what to expect. Do they interview me regardless of what they find?

>>32076531
Cool, I may see you in tec school than if you enlist soon enough. Leaving Aug. 19th for basics. Speaking of that, can anybody tell me about the basics for the AF at Lackland?

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Gonna be 28 when I finally graduate with Bachelor's

Plan on doing OCS, haven't decided which branch yet...

I want to do Infantry, EOD, STO, or a Pilot if they would take me. (Yes I acknowledge these are very different things)

Am I going to make it? Or am I going to be too much of an old fag?

>>32078275
guys pls respond

>>32074822
http://joiningthearmyhq.com/the-good-and-the-bad-of-being-an-officer/

http://officercandidatesschool.com/blog/2013/07/29/why-you-will-leave-the-marine-corps-after-one-tour/

>>32078275
why would going through OCS bar you from becoming a general officer?

>>32079085
Not that guy but the vast majority I'd say of General officers come from the academies with a smaller amount from ROTC and an even smaller amount from OCS (but not a zero amount)

The invisibility of general officers from OCS probably feeds an interpretation that it's not a way to become a general officer

>>32079085
Because of the hooks and contacts you pick up in the academies. And that you probably get promoted faster from attending these schools.

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Does having a pilots license do anything at all for me when enlisting?

>>32079683
I've heard that it might be a detraction from being able to become a pilot because they want to train you from scratch, if you come in already knowing some stuff you might have mannerisms and so on that they don't like but might be hard for you to unlearn

completely secondhand though

Is 0313 a pog mos?

>>32079683
>>32079709

Nah, civilian flying experience is a huge perk for a WOFT packet if you want to fly.

>>32079085
>>32079122
>>32079208

All this + OCS commissions are usually older. If you wanna spend 30+ years in the military (like a GO) better to start as a 22 year year old right out of college instead of going to OCS when you're older like most.

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>Bootcamp in a week and a half
>Still can't do five pull ups

What branch is best for intelligence

So I went to the recruiter about a month ago, who had slots open for Load, Boom and other cool jobs, but I had to lose 10 pounds because he wanted me 10 under the weight limit. My weight has been plateauing and only just now started to lose for some reason, those jobs won't suddenly be taken if it takes me another week or two to get down right?

Is PFC a meme?

>>32081391
Slots can change from day to day. There's no guarantee they'll be there tomorrow. But it doesn't matter, just lose the weight and then see what the situation is like.

>>32081437
Alright, i'm already down 4 pounds, do you think I can go back up there sometime before I lose all 10 if it shows i'm still losing weight?

>>32081443
Probably. I think he just wants you to know that you're serious, so if you bug him about it then you'll probably get it.

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Just got orders to a SSBN. I wanted a fast attack on Guam or Hawaii.

Any reason I shouldn't kill myself?

>>32081818
Your digits are impressive enough to keep living. You must have expected this when you signed up for sub.

>>32081876
I knew this was a possibility, but I hoped, dreamed it wouldn't happen.

>>32081958
Sorry man. Hope you can get reassigned in the future.

>>32081436
Private first class is a rank you retard fuck.

>>32077442
It's great here, what are you talking about?
t. Levantine

Fort Jackson experiences? What do I expect for bct there

>>32081818
Aren't SSBNs more comfy

I guess it's probably boring

>>32081078
RIP anon.

>>32078279
Thanks for the answer. I'm actually already in college, which kind of puts me in an odd spot. I want to get experience in intelligence and the military seems like a good start, but I don't think it would make much sense to go in as enlisted as opposed to going through OCS.

>>32082759

Well you can't pick intelligence at OCS, you can only compete with it.

I know a bunch of folks that enlisted with degrees as E-4s. It's definitely a trade-off you make in terms of pay and quality of life. If you're only dipping into the military for a few years to get the experience and GI Bill, it's a viable option.

Does my degree matter when it comes to pilot slots in AFROTC? Also can I get LASIK now (18) and be eligible to still become one once I grad?

>>32082759
>but I don't think it would make much sense to go in as enlisted as opposed to going through OCS.

Going in as enlisted can guarantee you a chance at the MOS. If you go to OCS you're going to get fucked by needs of the Army more likely than not. I went to AIT with quite a few E4s who had educations. One was an adjunct professor of English literature.

I just got married and I need to know do I have to enroll my wife in tricare? She already enrolled in DEERs and current health insurance is free with the state due to disability.

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>>32083836
>marrying a disabled person

>>32083836
Tricaritops. She better suck like a duck.

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Between coast guard and air force which branch has the best job opportunities?

I also have a bachelor's degree.

>>32084106
What do you want to do?

>>32084140

Be a pilot

Do officers as they get higher rank have more say in their PCS?

>Get highest possible score on ASVAB
>Recruiter asks me what job I want
>Tell him I want to be a cook
>Just sort of laughs a little bit and begins talking to me like I'm retarded

D-Did I do something stupid? I wanted to try and do culinary school after I get out of the military and figured 4 years of kitchen experience would be worthwhile but the recruiter wants me to go to nuke school?

>>32084728
Cooking in the armed forces is pretty shit. But not as shit as going nuke. Never go nuke. It's better to be a cook if that's what you really want.

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>>32061264
My recruiter wants to send me to MEPS like next week, but I can't duck walk for shit. I can't deep squat. My heels hardly come off the ground, as I'm doingankle dorsaflexion stretches but they still come up an inch or so.

I spent most of my life overweight and sedentary, only recently did I get fit and hit my ship weight. I think my mobility is fucked up because of it.

I brought this up with him and he just said practice. Any particular stretches or exercises I can do to be able to duck walk?

>>32084774
How shit? I've more or less decided already but I just want to get an idea of what I'm in for.

I can't decide if I want to join the army and do either 19D, 19K or 11B or find a more practical job in the navy / air force. Is combat arms really worth it or is it just a meme?

>>32084858
It was worth being an Infantryman when we were at war. I'd say go be a pog.

Wasn't an 11b, I was an Infantryman in the other branch.

>>32084833
Extremely shit
Bottom of the barrel shit
you'll be flipping eggs for jodies and military wives

>>32084833
Never done it myself so I can't tell you for sure, but imagine being a lunch lady at a public school and it'll be roughly the same experience. It's low status as fuck and everyone will assume you're too retarded to get a better job than being a cook.

But if you're actually interested in cooking you'll get the opportunity to try to be creative with limited resources. And if you have a guy who actually gives a shit about the food in the kitchen the quality will increase dramatically. Everyone loves a good cook. Just be prepared for an extremely ungrateful job.

>>32084833
Not military, but I currently work in a kitchen. It sucks ass. Signing up to do this for the military is literally the last thing I'd sign up for.

Do you have any food service experience of any kind? I'd say if you really want to do it, shadow a cook. Hell, get a job at some eatery and just jump in.

>>32084858

Right now 19D is p sweet. Army needs em so its easier to get school slots.

Job is similar to 11B and you do plenty of land nav shit which can help prepare for selection and other high speed shit.

>>32084933
I have worked in several restaurants including a grocery store deli which was the worst job I had to do but not really because the work was hard, I just didn't mesh with my boss. I'm mostly tired of bouncing from job to job working for minimum wage and going nowhere in life, at least in the military I can pretend to make some progress.

>>32084942
How does 19D work with airborne? Can you get it in your contract and is it worth it?

Do Boom Operators in the AF still get to do their job once they get higher in rank? I know after a certain point with Load they move you to staff, but i've heard of some MSgt's still doing their job as Boom?

>>32084998

You can.

If you get airborne you got a good chance of going to a Light Cav unit or an Infantry Brigade Combat Team, you do that you're basically recon and you dont have to fuck with Strykers or Bradleys like you would in an HBCT or SBCT.

>>32084975
The risk of going as a cook in the armed forces is that you'll have crippling depression for 4 years because you sign up for a long ass contract and once you're in you can't just quit.

Remember that you're signing away years of your life here and at the end of it you'll get the GI bill to get an education no matter what you do in the armed forces. The sad reality is that you're very likely to end up working with complete retards and terrible leadership with no way of getting out of it. So you could do any job in the armed forces and still go to culinary school afterwards.

Not saying you shouldn't do it, but think carefully before jumping into a shit assignment like that. I'm going infantry myself which also sucks but I want to do it anyways.

>>32085054
What if I wanted to do air cav? Like helicopters and shit? Would I just go to airborne assault?

>>32083700
I actually know an Air Force pilot who got LASIK, so it's definitely possible,butI think you need to get it from an AF surgeon.

Pilots generally are preferred to have STEM degrees, but the same fellow who got LASIK majored in history

is doing the police dept a smooth transition after EAS-ing?


Currently on the fence. I mean if there are some sweet orders closer to home, i might stay for a bit longer. or not. but not some bullshit orders to a ship. Im demanding these asshole detailers to give me riverines. if i get the west coast, that'll be great. the distance isn't making things better on my folks right now..pop's a drinker. yadda yadda, all of this sad shit of parents missing me everytime i call them.

if not. i'll survive, i can do school. live off that monthly BAH during school popping nootropics and adderals.

>>32085122

Donno about Air Cav!

>>32084895
>>32084899
>>32084933

Dunno why people shit on being a military cook. The pay/bennies are fucking awesome compared to what civilian line cooks get. If that's the kind of shit you're good at, have at it. I mean, the hours suck and you don't get a lot of respect...but neither do civilian cooks.

Ten years after joining the military a SSG cook will be bringing in a cool 60k~ salary with bennies and a comfortable retirement on the way. Meanwhile, his old cook buddies who just stayed working at their jobs will finally be getting that raise to a whole $14/hr.

Joining the military is a chance to make a real viable career out of something that is a dead-end job for 99 % of the people who take it up (fancy professionally educated chefs aside).

>>32084818
Practice duck walking to get good at duck walking.

Practice deep squatting to get good at deep squatting.

>>32085503
lol if that makes you feel better

now go cook something kitchen bitch

>>32084728
food service in the military isn't like in the civilian world. You are cooking for 300 people at a time. It's hard physical labor. Get a tech job and after you get out pursue culinary school.

>>32085503

Yeah you get promoted with no fucking problem as a cook.

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>>32085513
Lmao. You kids get more degenerate. "Practice duck walking". My sides, where are they???

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Am I gonna get prison raped at my first grunt duty station?

>>32085611
Yep.

>>32085611
mentally? emotionally? yes, for years, and it doesnt stop until years after ETSing

Multiple penis into butt? You signed up to be a marine didnt you?

>>32085611
could be way worse. you could be a paper bitch, or painting bulkheads on a fucking ship.

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>>32085611
What's this exact scenario like in the army?

>>32085642
>ETS
>Marine

Shut up Army pog.

So many disgusting pogs

>>32085523

Not a cook, but I recognize that not everyone is cut out for a college degree and a STEM job. Everyone always says "go get a technical job so you can make mad stacks", but if you're the kind of guy who can't wrap his head around tech and is going to work food service your entire life anyways...the military is a fucking phenomenal way to do it.

How good is being a 3D0X2 Cyber Systems Operations guy in the AF. I got offered that, Aerospace Propulsion and Financial Management and Comptroller.

Just have to go see an off base eye doctor because the fags at MEPS are trying to DQ me for failing the depth perception eye test.

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Which army mos will make me the scary gman who patrols and wrings valuable information from people? 35m?

>>32085904
3D0X2 has extremely good civilian jobs, get in, get some good certs while you're doing your 4, and get out, you can get a good IT job at like 90-100k without a degree

Have people gotten a 4 year degree and then fail Officer Candidate School?

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What are the best army intelligence jobs? Are there any that don't leave you perpetually chained to a desk during deployment?

>>32086207
You can't really fail OCS

But for what service are you talking about? I'm not sure OCS necessarily carries a service commitment

>>32086325
Can't really fail OCS? Then I'm fine. I don't want to build myself up to becoming some "perfect" officer and then just fail for whatever reason.

>>32086366
Well unless you're a fucktard who fails the written coursework or you show up in shit shape

If you don't quit though it's not necessarily easy to get thrown out. For instance in Navy OCS there's this big inspection week 3 and if you fail it you just get rolled to the next class. If you fail the inspection a few times though then yeah they'll probably look at kicking you out.

>>32085611
Yeah, until you deploy/stop being such a boot bitch

What unit are you going to, or do you not know yet?

Just got back from MEPS. Took the ASVAB. Got an 88.

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>>32086584
Uhhh...k

>>32086584
ASVAB doesn't mean shit

>>32086584
Enjoy getting anything except Medical, Aviation, and maybe Intel.

>>32086026
I'm going reserves, will that change anything?

It'll be 6 years and I will definitely get as much additional training for my field as I can.

>>32086622
I was hoping for hospital corpsman.

>>32086726
Well go fuck yourself.

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>>32086325
>>32086207
You can wash out of Marine OCS through peer evaluations and just attrition. About 40-50% fail iirc. You just get separated. If you wash out of Army you still owe 4 years, from what I heard. Navy OCS is mostly just DORs they'll keep in you H company until you get better or if you fucked up they roll you back a class
AF OTS washouts, pic related

>>32086754
Army forces you to go to boot before OCS

Will I make friends if I join the marines?

I'm just so lonely. I havent spoken to anyone in 3 days

>>32086798
Of course you will as long as you're social. You basically -need- to make friends.

>>32086798
You just spoke to me bb

So let's say i've done my 20 years, and I retire from the service. Will the government give me my annual salary even if i'm living in a different country but i'm still a US citizen?

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>>32086822
>20 years
Good luck.

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>>32081818
>>32081958
Occasionally they let people trade orders. Suck a classmates dick?

>>32083836
Get a divorce

>>32084728
This >>32085503
is correct, if you wanna be a cook then be a cook. btw it aint as bad as these people are saying they ahve no idea what theyre talking about. Cooks in the navy is a super comfy job. Chill as fuck. Youre in the kitchen, which has A/C. listening to music chillin with the other cooks just doing your own thing. And some idiot said its like being a lunch lady which aint true either. The FSA/cranks serve the food and do the cleaning. CS is a good job. I dont think it would be for a career but if you just wanna get some experience id say go for it.

>>32085523
Mad?

>>32086726
Then whats the problem?

>>32086822
Of course, why wouldnt they? You have no idea how many veterans retire and live in the countries they frequented during the service. Massive amounts in the philipines, thailand, japan, germany and so on.

>>32086911
>Then whats the problem?

Nothing, just wanted to be apart of the thread. I'm still getting my paperwork taken care of and then I got to go in for the physical. I'm excited.

>>32086911
I wasn't sure, i'm curious to how one would get a visa to stay in Japan or South Korea after they retire, do they just teach english as a thing to keep them in the country as they rake in the money?

>>32086822

To be clear, at 20 years you'd be eligible for 50 % of your base pay for the rest of your life. That's not a whole lot of money, but if you're in some third-world country it'll definitely keep you in hookers and blow forever.

>>32087034
I was thinking 20 years as an officer, so roughly 50k a year after taxes

>>32081987
We have to go to a boomer C school, so that'll probably lock me in on boomers for good.

>>32082368
They're supposedly more comfy. More space and you don't have to hotrack.

But they don't visit foreign ports or do any fun squirrely shit. Probably the worst of the 4 submarine classes.

>>32086911
>Suck a classmates dick?

I'm going to hear back in a bit about whether we can trade or not. If so, someone is getting the shit sucked out of their dick.

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>>32086931
Well HM is a good rate. Word of advice, unless you go SARC or FMF, make sure you go to a ship first not a hospital. Its super important to go to sea as a young sailor not a hospital.

>>32086944
>i'm curious to how one would get a visa to stay in Japan or South Korea
Pretty sure that yes thats the case. Plus there are loads of gov contract jobs on bases overseas. You have no idea how many random old civilians i would see working on these bases and id have no idea what the fuck they are doing. The gov contracts everything out and is very loose with them. They probably have a 20 year retiree hired to fix the copier and make coffee. Bam, youre living in japan. But you arent even in yet and youre worried about life after retirement. One step at a time man.

>>32087060
>I'm going to hear back in a bit about whether we can trade or not
Dude you def can, if they say no its just cause theyre feeling lazy but it is definitely legal and possible. Suck up to people and your instructors hard as fuck.

>>32087106
>Word of advice, unless you go SARC or FMF, make sure you go to a ship first not a hospital. Its super important to go to sea as a young sailor not a hospital.

Yeah, I heard people get stuck in hospitals. I want to go FMF and get deployed at least once, but at the least I want to be on a ship.

Guys, my back hip really hurts

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>>32087384
Your BACK hip?

>>32087452
>
Uh, my hip
Sorry Shinji

>>32087522
>>32087522
>>32087522

What does /k/ think about the 02xx MOS, 0211 specifically, but i'd obviously hafto go in as basic intel

>>32087051

20 years as an officer is sometimes out of your control, but sure, 50k/yr is about right.

>>32066289
-t. Guy that was a dirt bag and didn't accept the military for what it is

>>32063274
Much later in the day, but yes. It's an amazing job, with much more than just GPS. I highly reccomend it if you can swing it. Lots of different missions and systems, not many bases, almost all being CONUS. I'm in Denver right now for 1c6, can't really be beat that.