Do the Russians really have the most advanced tanks now? Is the

>>32058616
No

>>32058616
No

>>32058616
The only time the US was not 30 years behind is the 90s.

>>32058616
No.

>>32058616
>once a tank is produced it is not upgraded at all during its service life.

>>32058616
What makes the Armata a good tank?

>>32058616
>this exact same thread for n-th time again

No

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>>32058616
>tanks
Who gives a fuck?

>>32058616
>turret antenna and sensors are in front of the commanders machinegun

No

>>32058616
The US has been behind on tanks for a while.

>30 year old vehicle

>>32058725
the gun weirdly rotates around the base of it. i think the latest export t-90sm has it too.

>>32058616

US always had mediocre at best tanks. It was far behind German or Russian machines.

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>>32058737
T-90MS has a prettier turret too. Imagine MS turret + Armata hull.

>>32058616
3400 M1s would still rek the 20 or so produced Armatas.

>>32058616
No

Oh look, it is THIS thread again. SAGE

>>32058616
Yep. Totally behind. That's why all M1 abrams tanks are armed with 105mm rifled cannons and we haven't introduced any upgrades like improved armor,sights, com systems, or 120mm smoothbore guns that fire hypervelocity APFSDS penetrators. M1a2 SEP is just a hoax people. Wake up people, Russia is superpower now.

>>32059098
>120mm smoothbore guns that fire hypervelocity APFSDS penetrators
>2k16
>No ATGM capability
>No ERA except dozens of TUSK upgraded machines
>No APS
More than 30 years behind.

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>>32061078
Save some burger asses, please. Their internet defence force is at complete defensive, since Trump`s victory. And /k became retarded to an extreme lately.

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>>32062994
Burgers wanted FCS, but were unable to meke it, despite all the money involved. And Russkies, just went and made it. Imagine the nation-wide butthurt.

No. The Abrams has not been just sitting in a shed somewhere it has been constantly updated and improved.

>>32058616
>2016
>needing tanks

>>32061078
>>32062978
>>32062994
>>32063023

>No ATGM capability

For what purpose? What does that offer over what they use now, especially considering their doctrine? Do you really think it's some mystical tech that the West somehow can't understand? They figure they don't really want GLATGM's with their current doctrine, and they've already tried it with the Sheridan and MBT-70.

I'm sure you're also aware that not every Russian vehicle is equipped with GLATGM's, right? Generally only the leader's tank is equipped with them.

>No ERA
>Except TUSK

So, they do have ERA...? Even then, how is this bad? The armor is fine as-is since the West can into metallurgy.

>No APS

It's being worked on, and there's already systems out there, so I'm not sure what this is supposed to prove. It's not revolutionary, and it can be plugged into existing vehicles, or is this another case of Slavs acting like children? The West doesn't procure equipment to dick-measure and wave it around in Russia's face "Look what we have! Na Na Nabooboo!". There is no urgent need for it. I know Slavs have below-average intelligence, but come on.

1/2

>>32061078
>>32062978
>>32062994
>>32063023
>>32063737

Let's boil down what Slavs say makes the Armata "revolutionary".

>Unmanned Turret
Oh boy, so advanced, I guess the TTB never existed, huh?

>Autoloader meme
The TTB, CATTB, and Meggitt all have autoloaders for the Abrams, so it's not like America couldn't put one in if they wanted, the French have autoloaders on their Leclercs, dunno about the Brits or Krauts.

>APS

Like I said above, the West has a bunch of APS, they just haven't put them in service for varying reasons.

>ERA meme

I'm pretty sure every Western MBT has had ERA developed for it, but it's mainly focused on stopping RPG's during insurgencies, not all-up conventional warfare like the Ruskies, but it's not as if the West somehow can't make equivalent ERA.

>Muh 1m penetration at 2km!

Assuming that's true, it's not as if the West can't, or hasn't, made higher pressure/larger guns or more advanced ammunition. Segmented sabot rounds laugh at your ERA and APS btw.

Those are the main things, right? So the West basically just needs to resurrect the TTB, strap on ERA and APS and maybe a new gun... The Armata is basically a TTB. How are they 30 years ahead and "revolutionary" again?

>>32058788
please anon i ca only get so hard

>>32058616
Are tanks still relevant?
Seriously asking.

>>32066911
No. They can be stopped by a plastic drone.

>>32058616
No, the Russians finally caught up.

>>32066911

Where do faggots like you come from?

Seriously asking.

>>32066911

>Are tanks still relevant?

The answer is yes.

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>>32058616
don't know how good it is but I like the look of it. Most likely better than the Arjun but couldn't say about any of the others.
pic unrelated

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>>32058616
that looks an awful lot like an abrams

>>32058616
The real question, is the abram worth twice the price.
4mil approx vs 8mil approx?!

>>32058616
>implying tanks are still useful in modern day combat
the reason that we don't have a new tank is because we use APCs for troop movement and guided missiles for anti armor, we haven't needed a tank since we fought Saddam.

>>32058616
Can we PLEASE implement a system where vatnik/"T-14" bait threads are auto-deleted and OP is perma IP banned

Please, I can't take much more of this

Can we please filter "vatnik" to "amazing russian man", as to facilitate a conversation between Russians and Americans - and not just insult-flinging?

>>32069741
filter "burger" or any insult related to that to "amazing american man" along with what you said and you got yourself a deal

>>32067771
>watch yourself traveler, khajiit does not play these games.

>>32069741
>implying vatnik is used in wrong context
If you would word filter fatnik instead, i could understand it.

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>>32058616
in theory yes. an unmanned turret is best.

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>>32058854
Your a especial kinda of idiot arent you?

>>32063417
>>32058700
>being so dumb this dumb
Everybody cares every single nation ecxpt the us is updating their mbts for a reason

>>32067352
Your IQ must be kinda low if you make statements like this

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Most advanced tank, yes? Of my feeling, is Ivan has gone beyond the sea to fish again. So much of mobile barn to hit with a flank mine, so many new ERA plates and bullet hoses to make pretty secondaries.

Well. We all know the Russian. He will have the most advanced tank soon by having it advanced over a friendly country's border once again. After that, he will have no tank at all. He never learns, afterall.

>>32069902
>Ivan has gone beyond the sea to fish again
What did he mean by this

>>32069902
My fucking sides anon.

Poland or Ukraine?

>>32069945
ivan went to far, exceeded his grasp if you will, and fished on land, ultimately not being able to catch fish at all.

>>32069902
Pekka perkele go home!

>>32058638
/thread

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>>32069958
>Pekka perkele go home!

Only in a box, you left-leaning commie footrag!

Here, is of magic mirror of russian beautification mk. 87. Park armorvan of it in front, climb out, stare intently into it for five seconds, and simsalabim! You are now the most beautiful Russian on the planet.

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>>32069780
>Fatniks can't handle banter
Lol.

>>32067378
From the cunt of your mother.

Seriously saying

>>32070390
>h-hehehe you are erm...butthurt

Also that implying vatnik actually understand the real meaning of banter and dont just use it as an exuse for their disrespectful insults.

Дoeз тхиc видeo eвeн циpкyлaтe хиpe?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFURmv8vNIU

There are multiple webms, but I dont have any.

>>32063744
>Like I said above, the West has a bunch of APS, they just haven't put them in service for varying reasons.
>Like I said above, USSR had a bunch of space batle lasers, they just haven't put them in service for varying reasons.

>>32069902
>friendly country

>>32069845
t. distraught vatnik

Also:
what is m1a3 for 400
what is m1a2 sepv3 for 1000

>>32070941
Implying Russian military has any hard kill APS fielded now.