Sup /k/, I have a question regarding straw purchases. I'm 19 and I own pistols and have bought plenty through private party but my dad wants to get me a handgun for my 20th.
If he bought a handgun and gave it to me, would this be straw purchase?
If so, how would he go about legally buying me a pistol as a gift?
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>>32020135
>inb4 ATF
and I am in Texas, if that means anything.
>>32020135
As long as you are both legally able to own the firearm, no it is not illegal as long as it is transferred over to you at the time it is gifted.
As an extra precaution, you might want to take your dog off premises at the location of this transaction.
>>32020164
>no it is not illegal as long as it is transferred over to you at the time it is gifted.
Explain? Isn't a "transfer" just "here ya go son" and then it's mine?
>>32020135
>>32020188
>Thanks for the gift dad!
LEGAL
>Dad here's $700 buy me a handgun since I can't
ILLEGAL
It's stupid, but that's the law.
>>32020164
Transfer in Texas is just changing hands...
>>32020277
Okay cool just checking, also how would they even know?
>>32020344
They dont.
>>32020368
>>32020344
When you're stupid enough to admit to it or actually do it in the gun store on video camera. Otherwise it's unenforceable.
Yes there have been morons that did it within earshot of the FFL. They get told politely to leave and come back the next day for lawful purchasing that doesn't involve admitting to federal crimes.
>>32020277
Im >>32020164
Thanks for clarification, I live in CT, we have fill out 4473s here and transfer with the state, and provide pistol permit numbers of both selling and purchasing parties.
CT sucks.
Is it a straw purchase if someone takes advantage of glock blue label on another person's behalf?
>>32020506
Yes.
To avoid legal issues, the other person needs to buy it, then change his mind and sell it.
>>32020135
>would this be straw purchase?
No. And straw purchases are as punishable as illegally torrenting porn or jaywalking.
If anyone asks, it's still "his" or he didn't like it and wanted to sell it to you. Seriously, you literally cannot get in trouble for this and it's a stupid ass law anways. People buy guns and decide they don't like it all the time.
>>32020135
>If he bought a handgun and gave it to me, would this be straw purchase?
>If so, how would he go about legally buying me a pistol as a gift?
You can looks this up on the ATF website and not ask here, but the rule for this sort of thing is that yes, it's legal for him to mark that "yes" he is the transferee, and can then give it to you as a gift.
>>32020164
>as long as it is transferred over to you at the time it is gifted.
In most states, no extra paperwork is required for this.
https://www.nrablog.com/articles/2016/4/buying-and-selling-a-firearm-giving-someone-a-gun/
>>32020482
CT here too, sucks
>>32020135
>If he bought a handgun and gave it to me, would this be straw purchase?
If he bought it specifically to give to you then yes it is a straw purchase. Nobody actually gives a shit though as he is legally allowed to transfer it to you and hed have to literally tell the person transfering it or an atf agent that he is buying it specifically to give to you.
tl;dr- its illegal but unenforceable
>>32020789
gifting is 100% legal, especially between family members. Just make sure no money or payment exchanges hands.
>>32020813
Gifting is legal. Procuring a firearm for someone else is not. Its similar to the sale of home made firearms. You cant make the gun with the intention of selling it but you can sell a gun you made. The difference is intent, which cant be proven.
>>32020881
I should mention this doesnt apply if the parent pays for the gun himself.
>>32020789
>>32020881
Wrong. Read the goddamn thread. >>32020658
>If you, the buyer, are buying the firearm with your own money, not at the request of the other person, with the intention of giving the gun as a gift – you are the buyer. Even if you are not keeping the gun, you are the owner of that firearm until you legally transfer it to the intended recipient.