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I know swords are for fags and that axes and war maces are far

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I know swords are for fags and that axes and war maces are far better, but if you were a well trained nobleman, /k/ wich sword would you use and why?
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If I am in a situation where a gun cannot be used, another ranged weapon such as a longbow or crossbow would still be preferred. Fuck being honorable and noble. Being alive, and the other person being dead, is more important.
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>>32004866
Pike, Dirk, and light crossbow. Easy to train on, can kill a swordsman 8/10.
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>>32004967
>>32004936

Not even OP but great way to miss the point fags

>Hey I know theres better Options /k/ but what swords do you like
>Answers with anything but swords
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Gimme a simple arming sword any day. Nothing overly fancy or elaborate, just a well made and well balanced piece of steel designed to end the life of my fellow man.

Plus it means I have a free hand open for a shield, or for grappling.
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>>32004967
>Dirk
fucck of muh heritage faggot
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light saber
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>>32004866
A claymore because I could use it as a hammer.
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if I know nothing about the situation I'll be in.
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A bayonet with a gun attached to it
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Whichever sword is popular among my fellow noblemen. I have a reputation to maintain and I wouldn't want to look like a looney, or worse, unfashionable.
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If OP's opening with a videogame sword I'm going to use one too.

Sword made by the Goddesses, designed for destroying any and all evil creatures. And as an added bonus those with evil in their hearts cannot wield it.
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>>32005108
op here, i just used the first image that showed up on google
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>>32004866
>>32004866

Oh to return to the era of swords. Maybe someday it'll come back.

>YFW you will never be a warrior wandering the vast roman empire and silk road in your warrior clad carrying your sword everywhere you go engaging in battles or offering your services.
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>>32004866
>but if you were a well trained nobleman, /k/ wich sword would you use and why?
During which time period?
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>>32005108

kill yourself
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>be inna 814AD
>with my norsemen bros
>just got promoted to thane; so fucking cash
>go on a huge plunderin' along the norman coast
>tons of swag
>dump all of it inna motherfucking U L F B E R H T
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>>32005162

Makes you wonder if witchers really did exist.
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tell me why the gladius isn't the best sword?
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>>32005162
>>32005204

I'd love to have carried a Norse sword in that time period. Norse swords look so beautiful.
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>>32005337
>Norse sword
Well it is called like that but during that time period there were no Norse sword and South sword. All Europe just used that type of sword. It is just a sword.
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>>32004866
HEMA fag here
Can confirm swords are not for fags. Swords win wars. Swords are for free born men of high status. A vilano (peasant) can have an axe, might even know how to use it, but no peasant is going to be trained to use a sword. Historical texts of medieval combat where written about swords, spears, and daggers, not axes. Axe and or mace is a footman's weapon. A knight has a sword and you better fucking respect the blade. It's your heritage.
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Does this count as a sword?
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>>32004866
you stupid peasant, axes and maces are for fags, swords are for nobles. i would carry a yatagan or shashka, because real swords have curves. Or any sabre in general.
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>>32005531


muh dick tb h
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likely a bastard sword. you can cut a bitch, stab a bitch, murderstroke a bitch, and do most of it with one hand if you want a shield or two if you have something like plate
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>>32004866
>I know swords are for fags
How so?
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>>32005505
No, that is a tire affixed to a rifle. Technically a mace.
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Uruk-Hai scimitar. I'm not gonna be noble.
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>>32004866
>that axes and war maces are far better
They're not. they're situational.


If i could have any sword from any period regardless of what period i'm in, i'll take a saber. Because that's what i have training in.

if that wasn't the case, i'd probably take a side sword
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>>32004866
Plain old longsword if you expect to fight someone with armor. Rapier if unarmored.
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>>32004866
>I know swords are for fags and that axes and war maces are far better

How many memes are you on

Axes and maces are specialized anti armor weapons, not comparable to swords to begin with. Axes saw their most use by vikings and even then they prefered spears, maces were only popular when full body armor was.
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>>32004866
>and that axes and war maces are far better,

They're not.
these bullshit "swords are actually shit" memes need to be killed with fire.

I understand that people like to imagine they're so much more intelligent and know everything better than people in the past, but... you don't.

The sword is lethal, and it gained its position as the preferred weapon for a span of three thousand years, by being the best there is. These people may not have known as much as we do about science or geography or the likes, but they knew what worked in warfare where their life was on the line - unlike people today playing a video game, they learnt through the cold facts of reality. And there, the sword was the preferred weapon because they work.

axes do not have a fraction of the capability, they are less portable, they are less adaptable, they have severe disadvantages in fighting - a far smaller cutting area, inability to use false edge cuts, inability to make draw-cuts, severely limited use of the thrust, etc.

Maces are worse. they excel in a brief period from about 1400-1600, when full plate is being used, solely because they work very slightly better than swords to deliver injury through plate. To do so they sacrifice reach - most maces are at best 60cm long, a 50cm reach in the hand, Compared to even the smallest single-handed swords of the same period, with blades 72cm+, they put the user at a disadvantage. They completely lose the ability to thrust with a point, and all cutting capability is removed, for the ability to have a slightly better chance of putting force into armour - and that is not an assured action, plate will deflect most mace impacts, just as it will deflect sword or axe blows.

Swords were used for 3000 years because they are lethal against unarmoured targets, they are easily stored, they have a huge range of fighting methods, and they are brutally efficient. That is the reality of what swords were. our ancestors were not stupid.
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>>32006036
I want to like that video but it keeps giving me epilepsy...
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>>32006036
>implying swords hold a candle to spears and polearms on the battlefield

Lance > any sword on horseback
Pike > any sword in formation fighting
Quarterstaff/Spear > any non-greatsword in 1v1 (go look up Richard Peake and his feat of arms)
All pole weapons > any type of sword when it comes to logistics

Swords were the medieval/early modern equivalent of handguns, in that they were backup weapons and typically only carried in the first place by high-status individuals. The only area where swords enjoyed a distinct advantage over spears was for certain limited instances of quasi-independent action on the battlefield, like how the dopnelsoldner were tasked with protecting the flanks of the pike formations.
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>>32006036
>Tfw stroking out from WebM but it's also fascinating
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>>32006133
>>32006036
It's the case of specialized weapons against all-round weapons.
A sword is never the best choice you could get, but it's always good whatever the context is, and that's why it's the weapon that everybody will carry if they can, be it on a battlefield or in a civilian context.

You can't always haul around the best weapon there is, this isn't a video game. Nonetheless, you don't always have to choose between one or the other: you don't choose polearm or sword, you take both, that's why the sword is a sidearm after all, because it's a weapon you can have in supplement of a main weapon (be it a missile weapon or a long weapon).

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>Lance > any sword on horseback
not for light cavalry though, besides you can have both.
>Pike > any sword in formation fighting
Pydna Calling, also combined arms are what's winning battles, there is no need to oppose pikes to swords when you can mix them.
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>>32006036
Great video, but I keep cringing waiting for somebody to poke an eye out. It's like watching a Knife Song video.
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>>32006036

MOTHERFUCKING WAR PICK COMING AT YOU
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>>32004866
I'd likely use a lance because I'm not some poorfag who can't afford a destrier and I'd probably have an arming sword for a sidearm. Oakeshott Type XIIIa
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>>32005435

>dies to arrow

lol, fag!
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>>32004866
estoc
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>>32006183
eh, its pretty clear that the people doing it have trained HEMA for years, and are filming specific attacks.

Training without masks like that is perfectly safe, unless you're doing something specific like a poke to the face. Where masks come in is the moment you're either learning a new technique, and could get it wrong, or sparring where its not organised.

I personally vastly prefer to do first stages of practice without a mask, so I've got better spatial awareness of where footwork is going. Mostly because my footwork is atrocious.
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>>32005435
but kings have used battle axes, including Richard the Lionheart. Plus they're featured on a lot of coat of arms, this meme about them being for poor men needs to stop.
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I know handguns are for fags and that mosin nagants and combat shotguns are far better, but if you were a well trained OPERATOR, /k/ wich handgun would you use and why?
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>>32006222
>I personally vastly prefer to do first stages of practice without a mask, so I've got better spatial awareness of where footwork is going. Mostly because my footwork is atrocious.
My footwork is divine, I like to keep the mask on in all metal/metal situations.
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>>32004866
A Claymore because fuck everything in a four meter radium around me(including myself).
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>>32005223
>tmw you'll never join the inquisition and burn a woman at the stake on the basis that she's a witch because she didn't flirt with you first
Why live, desu?
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>>32005505
Amazing how they managed to turn an M16 into a blunt weapon by attaching a marine to it
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>>32006256
>>32005066
Claymores are one-handed broadsword though.
http://www.encasedinsteel.co.uk/2015/02/06/what-is-a-claymore/
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>>32006253
whereas I know a bloke with one leg who has better footwork than me.
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longsword, because there's a higher skill ceiling

there is treatises upon treatises on longsword fighting, i don't see so much regarding axes and maces.
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>>32005002
just get an ar-15
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>>32007567
From my experience axes are great as an off-hand for catching blades and so on.
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>>32007647
i don't plan on off-handing with my longsword desu wu senpai

https://youtu.be/VIKMPIFJkzk
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Strong, versatile and sexy as fuck.
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>>32007613
congratulations. the point completely goes past you again, Captain Megautist.

if someone says "I want to buy a bike for exercise", do you also tell them to get a car?
if someone says they're into archery, and want a new compound bow, do you tell them to get a gun?
If someone is into live music concerts, do you tell them to collect records?

by butting into conversations about other sorts of arms, and telling them to "get a gun", has it ever occurred to you that you are in fact, a colossal asshole?
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>>32007886
yeah but dude you should really just get an ar-15
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>>32005108
the fedora of fantasy swords
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>>32005435
>but no peasant is going to be trained to use a sword
Peasants were not main part of medieval militaries but if they did they carried swords among their weapons. Like English archers.
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>>32005232
Great for fighting in formation, less so if you 1v1 some faggot IRL because of the lack of a substantial handguard.
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>>32006181
>A sword is never the best choice you could get
This too depends on the context. If you 15th century knight fully clad in armor and fighting rebelling peasants and such scum will no or partial armor swords becomes best weapon from horseback or on foot (longsword on foot). And ability to kick peasantry asses is cornerstone of medieval society

>>32006133
Lance is "single shot" or close to that type of weapon. It can't exist without sidearm.
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>>32008014
also, they're seriously lacking in reach - most gladii are about 60cm tops, and they were made of significantly poorer quality iron/steel than viking age european arms, yet alone later periods. They're very much a unit weapon rather than one for an individual combatant.
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>>32006181
>Never the best choice
In a civilian context it is, because you aren't carrying around a fucking massive shield, you aren't carrying around an 8 foot spear. You'll have a weapon, MAYBE a buckler or dagger.

So what would you rather have? A 46 inch longsword with good hand protection, the ability to thrust/cut/bash, is incredibly easy to carry?

Or a 21 inch axe with no hand protection, that can't thrust well?
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>>32005204
Good choice. One of the finest swords of the middle ages, made with the finest steel of the time.

>was about to post ulfberht as well
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>>32006183
It's okay, they're play acting, if the epilepsy attacks didn't make that clear enough.
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>>32008323
unfortunately, they've been hyped to all hell and back by that nat.geo documentary being leapt upon by a certain segment of the interested parties, just as bad as katanas were in the 80's and 90's.

they were good swords, but so are Ingelrii, or running wolf marked later medieval blades, etc.
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>>32007886
This reply is the most autistic thing in this thread so far.
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>>32004936
>crossbow
https://youtu.be/r1OmkLrqIVw?t=30s
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>>32004866
Axes are garbage, swords are fancy, but the real money is in hammers and spears
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>>32004866
Schiavona. Whatever the choice, a one-handed blade is a must.
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>>32007886
I think I would probably use a KV-2, plenty of armour, swords can't even compete
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Longsword
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>>32005435
Also the axe (poleaxe)
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