Trump's gun views and proposed changes. I know there will

If nothing else I want the sporting purpose requirement for imports gone.

>civilian G36s when

>>31995958

> ATF's arbitrary ban abilities taken away

Dick Status: Muh

legal suppressors is extremely likely as he's talked up the "Hearing Protection Act"

But that act is designed to remove suppressors from the NFA, not abolish the NFA, so that might be saying something, it might not.

>>31995958
Fuck yes, please, please, please. Can we please get some FAMAS rifles before these froggies destroy them all?

>>31995958
not a fan of the G36. not sure why. I'll do some research and try to change my mind.

What is wrong with a solid AR build?

>>31996030
Not everyone wants a ar

>>31995978
Remember, like the liberals wanting to ban all guns, you cant accomplish everything in a single day
Baby steps is key

>>31996030

G36s are more interesting than plane jane ARs and are based on the AR-18. that's reason enough for me

>>31995958
Fucking this

SPAS-12s when?

>>31997046
yeah wait til you handle on in person. they're not exactly light and they feel and look like cheap plastic toys

only fired one as a rental from my local range that was probably an abused uncleaned range whore but it wasnt anything memorable

>>31997062
You can't import something that isn't made anymore

nobody knows yet, he isn't in sworn in yet and Obama is probably doing some sneaky shit on his way out

>>31995958
>melty melty

>>31995950
I live in Cuck Jersey (we don't have cc)..

With all Trump's talk about state's rights being important and also mentioning nationwide concealed carry how would it affect my communist homeland?

I work in the capital (Trenton, NJ) and it's literally a warzone and I fear for my life every day. CC in NJ would be a godsend for me.. but would our blue legislature (and likely next governor being blue) be able to override national concealed carry?

Could it go before the Supreme Court?

>>31997263
Live in NJ too, would also like to know.

>>31997283
It would be incredible.

Maybe Trump's win can spill over for the next Governor's race and hopefully the Dems will lose some seats in the legislature.

I think only 20% vote in those elections so Republicans really need to rally. It's possible.

If Christie leaves (or gets impeached) I think that gives Guadagno a good shot.. but I'm not too sure how she feels about 2A rights.

>>31997263
>How will it affect
Depending on how the law is written, nothing to giving y'all shall issue. On the nothing side, NJ is simply forced to accept CC from other states. Nothing about them having to allow their citizens to acquire one.

>Can state override national CC?
Basically yes. There is a reason why you can smoke pot in CO even though it's a federal crime to do so. Your state could potentially pull similar shit.

>Go to Supreme Court
Lets say worse case, NJ doesn't allow you to have a CC. Right there you could potentially go to the Supreme Court on the argument that the state of NJ is denying you the right to bear arms. That was the core of the Heller decision. They had a handgun ban, bad shit happened, it made it to court, based Scalia was based, and bearing arms was reaffirmed as an individual right.

>>31995950
>will he abolish the NFA?
yes, go look up Donald Trump Jr. Silencerco interview

Why do so many retards think congress is going to want to legalize fucking machine guns?

Why do you assume Trump is a diehard /k/ shitposter who wants to commit political suicide so you can waste money at the range in record time?

Also the continous fantasizing about a guy who ran on protectionist trade policies opening up the market for a flood of cheap foreign goods is laughable

>>31997062
Some lady was selling one at the Wanenmacher in Tulsa for 1600

>>31995958
Then you hit the problem that is German export laws

>>31998673
>commit political suicide
His whole campaign was "political suicide" and he's laughing his way all the way to the oval fucking office.

Maybe he doesn't care about being a career politician. Maybe he doesn't care about being elected to a second term. Maybe he plans on going balls to the wall for the next four years to absolutely shit on the legacy of 6 decades of "progressivism".

Or maybe not. He hasn't even been sworn in. Let's stop with the speculation, you all sound like libs.

>>31998713
Vat du u meen ve do not want z money?

>>31997109
I wish I had a reaction image to convey have utterly fucking moronic you are.

>>31995950
Real /k/ommandos don't waste their time bothering with silencer registrations or machine gun bans

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>>31995950
In short get hyped

expect
NFA rewrite; including
MG registry reopened speculation based on things Trump and surrogates have said its not the federal governments job to regulate firearms used for personal defense

>implying
SBR, SBS, AOW dropped from nfa
Suppressors treated as a firearms (see hearing protection act)
Deregulation and rollback of so called "armor piercing" ammunition bans based on it use in pistols and other various defacto bans from the ATF.
50 state reciprocity

That's about it for the moment. With the NRA writing legislation i would be cautiously optimistic about import bans. Due to domestic firearms manufacturer protectionism.

TLDR; 10/10 victory for second amendment advocates and supreme ass blasting for no funs

>>31998937
Real glad for national cc reciprocity, means on road trips you won't have to avoid passing through certain states for legal purposes.

>>31998744
They kicked all the jews out. They don't care about money from arms deals anymore because there isn't anyone with the business acumen to jew people.

Also
https://www.zoll.de/EN/Private-individuals/Travel/Leaving-Germany/Restrictions/Weapons-and-ammunition/weapons-and-ammunition_node.html

Don't worry, it's in english.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/14/gun-control-donald-trump-congress-concealed-carry-law?0p19G=c

I was just reading this, tasting the delicious grabber tears.

How good does it feel to finally be on the attack, and to have them on the defensive for once?

>>31998744
>>31999758
Whoops, that first link was the individuals.

http://www.zoll.de/EN/Businesses/Movement-of-goods/Export/Goods/Armaments/armaments_node.html

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>>31998937
I foresee CCW Reciprocity (thank god. I travel out of state 7 months out of the year for work and end up in Minneapolis and the Chicagoland a lot and I feel naked there) and the HPA getting passed but the AP ban, MG registery, and SBR/SBS/AOW/DD staying in place. While things are getting better there are still too many fudds around who have the ears and the wallets of the Replicans and the NRA

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>>31997404
>Be NJ resident
>NJ won't grant a CCW
>NJ has to accept other states permits under new law
>Apply for Utah Non-resident
>.....
>PROFIT!

>>31997263
COME TO PA MY GUN BROTHER, WHERE YOUR VOTE ACTUALLY MATTERS!

What might happen with 50 state carry is, you apply for an out of state license, then NJ is forced to accept it. This would definitely end in a supreme court ruling as NJ would hate this, but since the court is going to be leaning red... you might just be ok.

>>31998673
hopes and dreams really. Would be nice if machine guns were legal again, but I agree, probably not happening.

I think the most likely laws to be passed will be 50 state carry and Hearing Protection act.

I'll take anything honestly. So tired of being on defense with guns, time to gain some ground.

>>31999904
>Be NJ, they don't recognize non-resident permits from states that issue both a resident and non-resident CCL
>But since they are forced to recognize resident CCL's they are potentially following the new nationwide reciprocity law(s)
>Now NJ still can't carry

For example, IIRC Colorado has a stupid law that makes it so they don't recognize Iowan non-resident permits, but they do recognize each others resident permits.

As in I'm an Iowan resident and got my Iowan PCW (Permit to Carry Weapons). Now I go to Colorado and they will recognize my PCW since I have the resident version. On the other hand if I had gotten the non-resident (Iowan) version they wouldn't recognize it.

>>31995950
What's with everyone pushing concealed carry reciprocity all of a sudden? A few years ago I would regularly here people saying they were weary of it because the federal government getting involved in concealed carry could eventually result in stricter standards getting forced onto states, and now people seem to have almost completely stopped caring about that issue. Not to mention not having national concealed carry reciprocity affects relatively few gun owners when compared to most other federal gun laws. I would much rather go after SBR restrictions or something else that is relatively easy to sell compared to saying their state should have to recognize permits from other states with lower standards.

>>31996030
I already have two ARs and want something more unique in 5.56

>>31998937

All them have said it's not the government job to regulate firearms...period. nothing to do with personal defense.

>>31995978
>he's talked up the "Hearing Protection Act"
Citation before you raise my hopes and dreams Mr.

>>32000065
Iowa stopped issuing non resident licenses in 13, I know because I tried to get it when I was working there. Took the class anyway and got Florida's and Utah's out of state

>>32001349
Huh, I didn't realize that. I just checked and you're right. We don't have a non-professional PCW for non-residents.

For those interested you can still get a professional, but your job has to require it.

>>31998673

All the people that care are currently busy screaming "not muh president" and defecating in the streets already, so there's practically no harm done if he were to lift the ban on modern automatics.

>>31997404
Actually CO, CA, etc. aren't technically allowed to make weed legal, it's just that the government has agreed not to prosecute in those states. Federal law trumps (no pun intended) state law, so states can make laws harsher but not weaker.

AFAIK the idea that Trump himself can force states to become shall-issue is a total fantasy. Only the Supreme Court could do that, by ruling that it's a constitutional right.

>>32001247
https://silencerco.com/blog/2016/09/25/trump-jr-interview/

>>31997099
>1/3 carbon fiber + 2/3 Nylon-66
>cheap plastic

>>32001601
>only the Supreme Court
Yea the Supreme Court he is about to put in 1 if not more justices into. Put in the right people and bring up a case.

>>32001660
That's his son you dipshit.

>>32001660
tank joo veddy mooch

>>31999904
>>32000065
>>32001349
>>32001469
Since everyone 9is talking about CCW I have a question. I live in Illinois so I'm fucked as far as reciprocity.
What non resident state permits would grant me the best nationwide coverage. Would I need multiple state permits?

>>31996030
What's wrong with a nice cold beer? Nothing, but sometimes a shot of whiskey is nice too.

>>31997109
>what is literally every milsurp firearm ever

>>32001838
Utah will basically cover 90% of the US and it's relatively easy to get.

>>32001838
Google "Illinois carry".

Illinois has one of the strongest "in enemy territory" pro-gun organizations in the US and all the information you could ever dream about regarding CCW's in your cucked state exists.

>>32001798
Spasiba comrade cabinet

>>31997109

>Mausers
>Mosins
>Nagant
>K31s
>P64s
>CZ82s
>Basically any other Curio&Relic

>>32001893

Would that work for a NY resident?

>>32001798
Spasiba comrade cabinet

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>NDA rewritten
>Won't matter for me since I'm a CA cuck any all the fun shit is banned on the state level

JUST

The SBR and silencer market will be insane. Pistol caliber carbines will probably be the next best for home defense especially with CZ scorpions and Sig MPXs all over the place.

>>32001920
Where you at anon, 815 here.
I used to hang on Illinois carry but that Admin mauserme is a fucking commie in sheeps clothing and bans everyone who try's to get the members active IRL.

>>32001950
Dunno, you'd have to check. Some quick googling should tell you what you need to know about your states CCW laws and who they have reciprocity with.

>>32002044
630, I like it. I mean, they are old-cucks but at least they are active and actually put up a fight. Illinois isn't California.

>>32001798
SPASIBA COMRADE CABINET

>>32001686
Yeah, just saying that it's not going to happen fast, and not through any direct action from Donald. Somebody's gotta start a case and work it up to the court, then a ruling has to happen, and then there'll be inevitable fighting and foot dragging at the state level for a few years, so I wouldn't be surprised if his first term is up before we see anything actually happen.

On the other hand, Trump has made it clear that he doesn't give a fuck about how the constitution says the government works, and he's got both houses on his side, so maybe they'll figure out some way to just ram it through.

>>32002170
Ever shoot at Buffalo Rock? Thinking about trying to set up another day meet.

>>32002356
A few times, but I haven't been back since they opened the pit.

>>31995950
>will he abolish the NFA?
>machineguns are legal?
I'm sorry, but I always feel like this is the characteristically out-of-touch /k/ opinion. I give it about a 0% chance that Americans can ever buy an LMG or SMG with typical firearms restrictions and commodity prices ever again. Can you imagine what would happen if a few ISIS operatives got those and posted up in a club or concert venue? That's going to be obvious to anyone considering the reform, and they just aren't going to do it.

>>31995950
Please President Trump, stomp CA for being traitors and make both open carry and concealed carry a constitutional federal law.

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>>32001798
SPASIBA COMRADE CABINET

>>31995950
My priorities and hopes are as follows
>50 state carry reciprocity
>Nation wide suppressors
>Remove 'sporting purpose' bs
>Eliminate all import bans
>Machine guns (would be fun but probrably wishful thinking)

Do I get my tax stamp money back if supressors come off the NFA? I'll just it to buy another supressor

>>31995950
Just abolishing the ATF would amazing.

Hey guys, what does this mean for us ctfags? Will we be able to have the awb abolished???

>>32003386
>>Eliminate all import bans
I think you're being a little myopic, lad. I've heard other people say that in similar threads, but remember what Trump's economic policy looks like.

>>32003463
I would say that he may eliminate them, while adding a massive VAT.

Hell, at even 50% or something there would still be plenty I would be willing to buy.

>>31998937
That's not 10/10.
10/10 would be declaring all gun laws unconstitutional except maybe for violent convicted felons

>>32003431
I fucking hope so with all of my heart anon

>>31996013
>implying the frogs would sell them to you
Their export laws are the reason we're not getting parts kits.

>>32002401
Pick a Saturday or Sunday and lets have a range day. Who ever comes comes.

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>>31997109

>>32001798
spasiba comrade cabinet

>>32003711
almost misread that as "make all guns unconstitutional except for violent convicted felons"

>>32001708
You think he doesn't fucking listen to his kids? Don Jr gave one of the most powerful speeches at the Rep convention, even democrats weren't shitting on it. If Don Jr says "Dad, this is a good bill" Trump will give it a look

>>32004341
Isnt that basically gun control in a nutshell?

>>32004543
The original claim posted about Trump was:
>legal suppressors is extremely likely as he's talked up the "Hearing Protection Act"
Posting an article about his kid and claiming he might look at it because his kid suggest it very much falls short of the original claim that Trump himself is talking up the HPA. Also, I don't think anyone has the exact same political views as their parents on every subject so his kid supporting a position doesn't really mean much.

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This pretty much sums up what I'm looking forward to.

>>31998673
The fact that his son visited an NFA suppressor manufacturer for their endorsement and did a 1 hour interview with them is pretty huge.

>>32004709
I'm not the other anon. We have a better chance than ever at getting it through.

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>>31995950
Send the Trump administration a letter with what you'd like to see happen regarding gun control. Abolish NFA? Repeal Hughes Amendment? Reciprocity?

https://apply.ptt.gov/yourstory/

Also we should all join the NRA or other, arguably better gun rights advocate groups now and keep the momentum.

Never rest, the opposition is regrouping, rethinking, and replacing their next move. Don't doubt it, they are going away yet.

>>31999875
The NFA will stay unless a major challenge hits after he's put 2 noms in the supreme court.
Suppressors off NFA, SBR is a possibility, Hughes lifted, the most important thing he's going to do is drastically reduce turnaround time and simplify the process.
We'll probably also see a lifting against individual state NFA bans when an assault weapon case comes up (guaranteed) and the court holds that states cannot restrict more than the fedgov allows

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ITT, playing stupid games and winning stupid prizes.

>>32001798
spasiba comrade cabinet

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>>32004831
You seem to have saved the thumbnail

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>>31998937
>SBR without needing stamp
would be awesome to put a folding stock and vfg on my draco-c
>suppressor
because why not at that point.

>>32001798
SPASIBA COMRADE CABINET

>>32001798
Cпacибo тoвapищ кaбинeт

>>32001798
Spasina comrade cabinet

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>>32001798
spasiba tovarisch kabinet za russkije oruzhiye
:') eto krasivaya