Whats the point of automatic shotguns? Why would you need that

>>31942119
cuz its cool as shit

>>31942135
>thread

>>31942188
>>31942135
Would the military really buy it on cool points alone?

Do want to kill someone dead, but really really dead? How about 10 00 buck shots per second?

>>31942201
Yes

Point is room clearing and urban combat.

Problem is that carbine length salt rifle is just plain better in almost every way. Also carrying much 12ga ammo is as cumbersome as my balls on hot summer day.

Tho I hope to acquire one someday.

Don't they have a 12 gauge round full of c4?

>>31942270

Bomblets? I think so.

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>>31942201

>>31942201
No real military invests in shotguns outside of door breaking and delivering less than lethal ammo.

>>31942265
>Problem is that carbine length salt rifle is just plain better in almost every way. Also carrying much 12ga ammo is as cumbersome as my balls on hot summer day.


Why no automatic pistol with a stock?

>>31942325
Because it would suck ass like pistols usually do.

>>31942325
Logistics, almost same oal and inadequate barrier penetration.

>>31942119
Painting the wall behind the target.

>>31942325
Because pistol rounds, particularly out of pistol length barrels, are pretty shit at killing people.
Look up the percentage of people who survive getting shot with a pistol vs those that get shot with a rifle.

>>31942309
That's a small car.

>>31942553
4u

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>>31942553
That is the gau-8 avenger, without the optional plane attachment

>>31942201
They don't.

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>>31942119
>Whats the point of automatic shotguns?
To remove kebab in CQ.

>>31942119
Killing a single Canadian goose.

>>31943503
This.

And he's still probably gonna nip ya a few times.

>>31943503
This man is a wise monkey.

I want to build a full-auto shotty and register it as a DD to avoid 922(o)

>>31942201
No. The USMC loves trying out memes and they didn't even want the AA-12

>>31942265
>>31942312

Just wait.
>Troops loved the XM25
>Some even carried it as primary.
>Can't use it everywhere you can a rifle, needs versatility
>The fancy rounds cost $1000 a pop as well
>Take cue from M576

And that is how we end up clearing rooms with 5 Gauge shotguns.

it just werks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=In-zIb45cxs

>>31942541
This. There is a critical velocity above which the temporary wound cavity starts causing measurable damage. Pistol rounds sit below this velocity.

>Aren't regular shotguns hardly even used in combat situations other than breaking open locked doors and CQB?
Well, yeah. Why do you think that every automatic shotgun ever has been a commercial failure? The USAS was only bought by a few SE Asians and spics, the AA12 is used by a grand total of nobody (except Hollywood obviously) and the Striker only exists purely because Rhodesia was under embargo and Cobray wanted to pull a middle finger to the ATF.

>>31942119
>need

>>31942119

Killing a shit load of tangos in close quarters.

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>>31942119
You can clear a house before you even walk inside.

>>31947629
The USAS was never realistically offered to American civillians.
Otherwise it would have been a massive sellout and everyone would have one, like the AR-15 paradigm.

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>>31944264
>have to pay the military to test out your stuff
>they end up saying "it's cool brah but we gonna stick to the mossberg"

>>31947813
I really do doubt that. Everyone says they'd buy a semi AA12 or a USAS if they ever came to market, but when it comes to actually hand over the $2-3k (cant see them being less than that) there would suddenly be hesitation. Like with those STG44 repros, talk is cheap.

>>31942201
Maybe for recruiting purposes...

>>31942119
>need
Who the fuck talked about needs

>>31942119
What if the military made a belt fed auto shotgun system for MRAP's for riot control or urban combat?

Fun, massive bird removal, pushing your canoe down the river when you lose your paddle, and literally nothing else.

>>31947895
AA12 was designed with a twin-aa12 unmanned vehicle mount

>>31947860
/thread

>need
REEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>31948899
>>31947860
This is talking about the military, fuckwits. Yes the military shouldn't be spending money on shit they have no need for.

>>31942119
firing automatic buckshot would be good for a mogadishu situation
every squad has a shotgun therefore shotguns are useful
AA12 is too expensive and bulky so it won't ever be very popular nor will it just disappear

>>31942119
In case tou want to hose down and clear a room in less than a second.