I've never seen this video discussed on /k/, and it sti

>>31926531
Some people will always be too stupid to have have logic change their thinking.

>>31926531

>I've never seen this video discussed on /k/,
Hello, newfag

>and it still makes my blood boil.
If you get that mad from listening to opinions you don't agree with, then you're the autist.

>>31926531
Lindy is often wrong and misinformed on a lot of historical stuff. There's no need to pay him any notable attention.

>>31926531
Did he shaged ur mum again ?

>a fucking 40 year old dance instructor

>>31926531

MG-42 is still stupid. But not because of those reasons.

At 1200 rounds a minute you put 2 bullets in one hole. Which is not only useless it makes your logistics officer cry himself to sleep every night.

>>31926531
He looks like a younger Jeremy Corbyn, and for that alone he deserves to be beaten

>>31926673
The only reason Hitler is the secular Devil of our times is because of the Jews. Remove them from the equation and he'd just be seen as a conqueror.

>>31926688

You dont need to blame the ash tray wizzards. Memory of W2 is still fresh and the victors painted him as the devil add how media has evolved and its no wonder people still see Hitler as the devil.

>>31926671
when everyone else uses bolt actions it probably weighs out.
how much ammo did an US squad use compared to a german one?

>>31926673
He is such a fucking twat

He has such an infantile logic on everything

>>31926671
>what is laying down a base of fire to allow your troops to maneuver

It's an MMG, it doesn't have to necessarily hit anyone.

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>>31926531
Based Ian sempai

>>31926706

The German over use of Bolt actions is not a good thing. They lacked CQC ability or means to supress the enemy during a retreat. and do to German doctrine they didnnt even use their bolt actions becoming entirely reliant on the squad MG so if it ever broke the squad was useless.

>>31926671
> you put 2 bullets in one hole
it's never useless to shoot you're enemy twice.

>>31926713

When German doctrine basically turns it in the squads only weapon, and when you put 2 bullets in one hole its not a good thing.

I must confess, the MG42 is my favourite gun.
It was the best suppression fire machinegun ever invented. The point of a machinegun is suppression. The MG42 is a better machinegun.
Lindybeige argued the Bren was more accurate. (It's not that much more accurate. Recoil is the bigger problem, and even the MG42 can hit single targets effectively at hundreds of metres.)
A common criticism of the MG42 is it's too fast. I think it's speed is it's advantage. People who claim it uses too much ammo miss the point of machineguns. All MGs are inefficient, but that minor advantage could save a soldier's life. It's the "spend steel, not men" doctrine.

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>>31926735
Thankfully the Germans didn't operate on a squad level, but on a platoon one, like pretty much all militaries.
Those three other MG42s, four available MP40s, dozens of grenades and a light mortar in organic support really help. Don't forget that rifle platoons would have operated in combined arms operations with the rest of the company, with both artillery, mortars and tanks in support.
It's almost like the big picture is relevant in a military setting.

>>31926531
MG42 was a steaming pile of overrated shit

Soldiers hated it because it would overheat in 10 seconds and the extra weight of spare barrels is heavy.

>Inb4 muhh 1500 RPM
You don't need that much for suppression

Kill yourselves wehraboos

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>>31926753
>tanks in support.
Though now that I think about it, having tanks would be unlikely for an ordinary rifle company, but direct fire support would be certain.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MzgEuvxKnk

>>31926747
Are you be saying you pay in brass or blood but you pay?

You be sayin

Ammo is cheap life not?

Yo be sayin spandau?

>lindybeige video
>it's complete crap

Well stop the fucking presses!

>>31926753

>Thankfully the Germans didn't operate on a squad level, but on a platoon one, like pretty much all militaries.

Platoons break down in squads, a squad will face another squad, yadaa yadaa yaddaa

> four available MP40s,

Some Axis forces would have four SMG's just for one squad, not to mention the MP-40 was given to officers, the people you would not like to go charge a building and die.

>It's almost like the big picture is relevant in a military setting.

True, but all you just said would apply to any other military, factor in most other militarizes had a decent supply of SMG's for infantry men and that their doctrine didn't make them overly reliant on MG's, or on any small numbers of weapons that have a decent chance of breaking.

Fact of the matter is, the Germans where inferior in Infantry and Artillery tactics and equipment to most other big players and even some small ones. Compare their tactics and equipment for those two parts of an army and the Russians kick their ass, the US kick their ass even the British kick their ass.

>>31926591
>opinions
It certainly doesn't help when the presenter presents in such a way that implies he is of the belief that his opinions are not opinions at all. He seems to be under the impression that his opinions are actually facts rather than opinions.

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>>31926531
The guy's videos are fucking terrible. Just another cuck with an opinion... and a youtube account.

Pic related

>>31926531
He does some sweeping arguments that i dont agree with, but on a whole he is correct.

Or as someone posted before>>31926723
ian as always brings a balanced and intelligent comment.

>>31926819
;)

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>>31926852
>Platoons break down in squads, a squad will face another squad, yadaa yadaa yaddaa
That's not how WW2 German rifle platoons work by design. A squad will also not "face another squad", that's nonsense. You concentrated your forces to the point where during an attack ~2/3rds of your manpower should be capable of engaging the same enemy. Depending on the plan of battle and its success, that enemy could be anything from a single platoon to the company's full strength.
>Some Axis forces would have four SMG's just for one squad,
Yeah, you know the German army had units other than the grenadiers. Panzergrenadiers, jägers, engineers, volksgrenadiers and so on. Some of these were equipped with notable amounts of automatic firearms, like machineguns, smgs and assault rifles.
The very basic rifle platoon was NEVER intended to perform the kind of combat that would require the large scale deployment of automatics and as soon as they were faced with the reality of those requirements, the German military started fielding different units.
> not to mention the MP-40 was given to officers, the people you would not like to go charge a building and die.
Five MP-40s in a platoon, one in each squad and assumedly one with the platoon leader.
>factor in most other militarizes had a decent supply of SMG's for infantry men and that their doctrine didn't make them overly reliant on MG's, or on any small numbers of weapons that have a decent chance of breaking.
Go ahead and look at the early war Soviet weapon deployments and compare them to German ones.

Fact of the matter is that later in the war and in different units, the Germans would and DID field multiple machineguns in a single squad, multiple automatics and would even field G-43s whenever possible, though failed to do so in the doctrinally planned manner.
Never mind the fact that singular squads do not fight alone. Singular platoons do not fight alone. Not even companies would fight on their own.

>>31926591
^This

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>>31926531
>I've never seen this video discussed on /k/, and it still makes my blood boil.

Well, you either don't come often enough, or you're new. In the last two weeks we've had a Lindy thread that centered around that video, and a thread where we wrote a letter to him one word at a time (spoiler: lots of the words were "Spandau")

>claims the Bren is a better machine gun than the MG34 and MG42

Literally untrue. Go to 9:00 at the video you posted.
Lindy:
>Neither was entirely better. They were different.

>>31926723
Even Gun Jesus agrees with Lindy. But you're such a Wehraboo that it's easier to lie about the video than face the facts.

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>>31926531
>1 thing vs. another thing
>deciding a 'winner'
The premise for the video is gay, but the reaction it elicits from Wehraboos is delicious (because everything that the Germans used in WW2 was pure space magic).

Anyway, everyone knows that the Vickers was the best machinegun ever, one example fired non-stop from 1912 to 1968, without any stoppages or mechanical wear. In fact when they opened up the action to inspect in at the end of the 56 year test they found the the receiver had filled up with nuggets of gold.

>>31926531
GET THE FUCK OUT WITH THIS TRASH LURK MORE NEWFAG!

>>31926725
The MG 42 was the carrier catapult of it's time. It never failed.

>>31926531

The guy is just super nationalistic. If you want to see a truly retarded video, watch the one about British officers not ducking in WW1.

>>31926646
stop playing with your phone at school you chav

>>31927704
>Hurr durr nationalism is bad
>MEG MAGA edition

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>>31926531

>>31926531
I think comparing a Light Machinegun (or Squad Automatic Weapon) such as the BREN, to a General Purpose Machinegun such as the MG34/42 is kind of inherently silly.

>>31926673
>>31926688
>>31926705
He's probably referring to how the rest of the world demonized him and how he was seen as a monster in Europe for a long time after his defeat.

>>31927654
Except the bolt will occasionally fail to lock and then bounce, opening too early, which apart from being a safety issue, can often lead to case head separation, which is a nasty jam to clear.

>>31926591
>"How dare you have feelings about things why aren't you constantly a neutral, virtuous Christ - like individual" the Post

>>31926747
>It was the best suppression fire machinegun ever invented. The point of a machinegun is suppression.
It suppresses, sure, but there are more reliable and ammunition expidenture efficient designs, you can suppress a lot, really fast, but how long does your ammunition last?

I would much rather have an FN MAG58 or M240B than an MG3.

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>>31928084
Except you can just change barrel in that case, shoot 800 rounds (thats NOT half a minute because no mg gunner shoots more than bursts), whilst your co gunner fixes it with the special tool for it.

>>31926769
I love the leIG in COH2

>>31926747
>It's the "spend steel, not men" doctrine.
The concern isn't always so much cost as it's making sure the ammo you have doesn't run out at an inopportune time.

You could have a gun that fires off in 6000rpm bursts, and it would suppress the shit out of the enemy, until you run out of ammo.

How long you are able to suppress matters quite a lot.

>>31928179
>>31928084
In addition an unlocked shot is not really a safety issue. It will just continue to cycle. It MAY lead to a separation if the case was shit (even in war production). The only case head separations (3) ive seen happend with M2 QCBs.

>>31927904
>hurr durr nationalism is good
(^:

>>31927904
>I have no meaningful personal accomplishments so I'll take my nation to be an extension of myself in that regard

>>31926531
>Lindybeige is a retard, makes shit up, and acts like n expert on a topic he knows literally nothing about

Stop the fucking presses

Lindy always looks like he just woke up from a night of heavy drinking.

>>31930280

I'm glad I'm not the only one.

He looks pretty fucking rough.

>>31926531
Stop watching if you can't deal with opposing opinions from a fucking youtuber without getting irate. It's not like it's a scientific paper written by actual professionals in the field.

Spandau

>>31930339
Clip

>>31926531
MG42
>Easier to hit moving targets with a 'sweeping' burst due to higher rate of fire
>Can fire longer without reload due to belt
>Easier for support troops to carry more ammo because belts weigh less than mags pound-for-pound
>Faster rate of fire capable of more efficient suppression

BREN
>Easier to control recoil due to slightly smaller round and lower RPM
>Ammo lasts longer due to lower RPM
>Barrel doesn't overheat as quickly due to lower RPM
>Can change the barrel without gloves
>Weighs around 25lb loaded while MG42 was about 25lb unloaded; 50-rnd belt=2.75-3lb, 100-rnd belt=5.5-6lb, 200-rnd belt=11-12lb
>Faster reload due to mags instead of belt
>Easier disassembly/maintenance (I hear; feel free to correct me on this, images/gifs/links preferred over simply "you're wrong")

Ultimately, Lindybeige is an opinionated and ignorant ass. MG42 is called MG42 and not fucking 'Spandau' or whatever the fuck. BREN is God-tier LMG, MG42 is God-tier GPMG, both are amazing in their own rights with various positives and negatives when compared to one another. I'd consider the BREN better in an offensive role while the MG42 would be more devastating in a defensive role (especially with a large field of view and good distance).

I think that's /thread, no?

>>31926688
You're right, it IS because of the Jews that Hitler is the Devil of our times. It's because of approximately 6,000,000 of them. If it wasn't for those 6,000,000, he would just be seen as another conqueror. Perhaps that's why Neo-Nazis are kind of stuck between wishing Hitler had done MORE wrong while telling others that he did NOTHING wrong.

>>31926723
This. Ian is awesome. I love how he'll even be factual, presentable, and friendly, even when faced with arrogance and ignorance.

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>>31926531

I've seen a lot of stupid shit posted on this forum but this, is
impressive. What takes the cake is some of the stupid fuckers
in this thread agreeing with this assessment.

This sub forum has gone to the cuck Stalinists, and MUH USA. Objective reasoning,
gone.

Some Gems from the last week- Tiger crews didn't have maintenance units. Nope, Germany
just produced them and sent them on. Nobody thought of spare parts.

Germans had no logistics. None, or very limited material actually made it to the front. It was
just the guys in the most forward positions until the war ended. They were very good at holding
out. All reinforcements are a lie, or they just got lost and slept out the war.

Shermans, even the short-barreled medium-velocity 75 mm M3 gun could take out Tigers
and infantry at great range frontally without exception.

Make comments about what USA/Russia did wrong, Wheraboo, Neo-Nazi asshole racist.
The Germans didn't do anything correct, at all. They were actually beaten on day 1 of the war,
and gave up, the several years of combat were just them accepting their diplomatic defeat.
They made no weapons that actually preformed, or were useful. There tactics were without
innovative spirit, and they all murdered children and flew hateful flags. /K pretty much these days.

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my favorite lindy video is a recent one where he reminisces about his boarding school days and how he was the real cool guy rebel and the cool guys were actually super uncool and he totally outangled them at tea time.

>>31928169
>M240
>FN MAG 58

You do know that these are the same gun right?

>>31928084
The swiss fixed this with the MG51. Which uses a flapper locked bolt

>I've never seen this video discussed on /k/
lol newfag

>In which a questionably autistic """historian""" claims the Bren is a better machine gun than the MG34 and MG42,
If you stick around to the end of the video, he actually just says they're different guns for different things full of differentness

>>31926673
>LITERALLY HITLER

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>>31937097
He's right you know. Both invaded most of Europe, couldn't get to the Brits, tried to invade Russia, both had a relative that became known as the Sun King. Oh wait shit, forget that last part... >_>

>>31926531
186 parts on the MG42/MG3.

Which of your firearms have anywhere close to 186 parts /k/ ?

>>31926531
He does this for your views and /his/ as well. Don't give him the ad revenue.

>>31926688
Hitler was a cuck who got in the way of all better men, Napoleon was THE reason why France took on the rest of Europe and kicked their asses.

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>>31937118
>Which of your firearms have anywhere close to 186 parts /k/ ?
186 million, bby.

>>31926531
Reminder he thinks Market Garden was a success

>>31937143

Seriously? In what video did he say that?

>>31937118
CZ-75 Pre-B
>Less than 70 parts I think

SVT-40
>Less than 90 parts I think (less than half of what the MG42/MG3 has)

How many parts are in an SKS? Wasn't there around 100 parts in a Mk.III* Lee Enfield? The Mk.III from before the Mk.III* (before 1915) would have more parts due to windage adjustable rear sight, magazine cut-off, and volley sights. That'd probably only add like 9-11 pieves or so, but yeah, nowhere near 186 parts. How many parts are on the BREN? I hear the BREN is cheaper and easier to maintain.

>>31938297
Holy fuck, the M1A1 Thompson appears to only have around 50 parts. I thought that expensive and heavy-as-a-wet-sack-of-shit SMG would have more than that! I wonder how many parts are in the PPSh-41 and PPS-43. STEN must be like fuckin'... 30 or some shit. I used to have a basic sketch of an SMG design made and it came to I think around 40 parts, and that included two recoil springs kind of like the P38 pistol.

>>31926688
>Industrialised murder
>Insane ideology lost him his war despite excellent generals
>Didn't actually do that much conquering
>Nazi utopia is (admittedly with hindsight) incredibly flawed and based on false premises
>Focus on eugenics would have fucked up the human race with genetic disease
>Didn't shoot Goebbels for being a slimy prick like any right-thinking man
>Didn't like lesbians
>Didn't like contemporary art
>Reprehensible lack of military honour (germ warfare research, deliberate terror tactics)
>Contributed almost nothing to world, even in field of warfare (most developments were being simultaneously made by other powers)
>Stupid mustache

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>>31926688

Yeah, the genocide of half of Eastern Europe and the slavery, atrocities against civilians, famines and general destruction in the rest of occupied Europe which happened within living memory don't factor at all in why people here think he was a monster.

That having been said, Lindybeige is accurate in pointing out that Napoleon was the 'Hitler of his day'. Hitler was just ten times worse.

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>>31941052

https://www.academia.edu/227604/_It_Still_Makes_me_Shudder_Memories_of_Massacres_and_Atrocities_during_the_Revolutionary_and_Napoleonic_Wars_?auto=download

A good source about the matter.

>''the Cathedral and the sacred lives within it were not spared, which made the Spanish look upon us with horror, saying out loud that they would prefer we violated their women than their churches.
>We did both
>The convents had to suffer all that debauchery has invented and the outrages of the soldier given up to himself.''

>>31926688
>Ash tray wizards

holy fuck dude my sides are in orbit

>>31926531
It's comparing apples to oranges. The MG43 was a crew-served weapon while the Bren was an individual's weapon, like a BAR. We might as well be comparing a rifle to a mortar.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qBOjYuV1vM&index=11

Wehraboo status ITT: FULL AUTISM MODE

>Engagement: 100%
>Whining: 100%
>Autism spectrum: FULL BAND

>>31940325
>he likes contemporary art
spotted the retard

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>>31941450
They didn't exactly like classical art either.

The Nazi's art tastes can be summed up as trying to sound smart and calling everything they didn't like "degenerate".

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>>31937853
Not explicitly but his followup to the initial statement

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>>31926531

>>31926723
>britaboo vs a naziboo
Ian and friends aren't exactly impartial.

>>31941868
>Ian
>a Naziboo

A Naziboo wouldn't put out a video defending the Chauchat.

>>31926531
Forget about that hair splitting. Berserkers bit their shields because the army was augmented with mentally challenged people.

>>31927904
There's a difference between Nationalism and being plain out wrong historically about battles.

No one's ever won a war on pride alone.

>>31927704
>super nationalistic

That would be a pretty dumb explanation considering the Bren was a Czechoslovak ZB 26 produced under license.
There were some slight design changes requested by the britcuck command, but these were also incorporated into the design by the Czechs. There isn't a single speck of British design on the gun.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zViyZGmBhvs

>>31926531
>I've never seen this video discussed on /k/
Bullshit. Some of you fags just enjoy posting the same topic over and over again, I'm convinced of it. It's just like women in the military. You guys ask that question every day and want to know what we think of it, even though the answer is bloody obvious.

>>31941878
Anyone who suggests Ian is a Naziboo is a fool. If anyone is a Naziboo, it's Karl. I hate that fucker.

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>>31941868
>naziboo

How.

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>>31937140

>>31926531
I don't mind LindyBeige, but he's very typical of a certain kind of parrochial englishman that seems to abandon any sense objectivity when it comes to matters concerning his national identity.