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>1941 >Hitler himself tasks you with the development of

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>1941
>Hitler himself tasks you with the development of a tank to replace/supplement the Panzer IV and to counter the T-34 as well as increasingly powerful Allied tanks
>what do you create?
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>>31926388
> Hitler dubs
> Fur die fuhrer

Copy T34s, but with the German touch. Less heavy retarded shit. More slope armor.
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>>31926396
Like a smaller panther that doesn't break down
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>>31926388
A mobile gas van desu senpai
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>>31926408
>hebrews on wheels
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>>31926396
Pretty much this.
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Nothing because nazis are fags and hitler is an ultra fag
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>>31926443
It looks like a T-34 with a different main gun
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Leopard 2A6.
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>>31926454
It pretty much is a T-34 with a different gun. That's the idea behind it.
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>>31926450
what are modern politics then?
ultra über hyper fags?
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>>31926443
This but without the retarded turret, use the hetzer gun mantlet and a fixed coaxial mg insteaf of a gay ball mount on the turret
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>>31926476
What's wrong with the ball mount?
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also tell him to use 88s and the long 75 for fucking everything, the 50mms and 37mms were outdated before the war even started

tell him to stop applying zimmerit anti-magnetic mine coating on tanks as allies aren't gonna use that shit, and start developing a large-caliber smoothbore to fire fin stabilized shells

introduce the concept of APDS and fin-stabilized shells
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>>31926480
1. the actual machine gun needs a flexible mount inside the turret with a ball mount, this means the turret needs to be wide enough for the crew to handle it in the turret
2. mgs need to be used with approriate viewports, for instance a fixed coaxial mg works with a standard gunsight, and a ball mg needs a larger sight, again increasing the size of the turret and adding a potential weakpoint
3. the ball mount on the outside of the turret itself takes up some space, and creates a potential weakpoint
4. cost compared to fixed mount
5. there is already a ball mg on the hull front, a ball mg would not be necessary on the turret

>tl;dr it's redundant, it takes up too much space and it costs more
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>>31926388
1. Tractor simplicity like the T34. They will be build by slaves, after all.
2. Frontal protection only w/ pike front so it can save weight for the 88mm and 5 man crew w/ 3 for turret..
3. American Detroit Diesel motors 19L. They run like shit, but they run like shit forever.
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>>31926505
Thanks for the explanation.
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>>31926443
why do you consider this any better than the panther?
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>>31926388
I wish I was tasked with Germanys logistics and replace their horse drawn bullshit with gas powered trucks that arent complete shit.

Seriously, german logistics were garbage.
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Don't develop anything new. Re-work the design of the Panzer IV to be cheaper and faster to build, without requiring advanced materials. Accept the reality that the majority of tank killing is done by towed anti-tank guns.
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Prioritize Panther tank production, shelve anything larger including the Tiger I. Replace losses of Panzer III's and IV's with Panthers. Stop production of III and IV.

And fix the fucking final drive so tanks could be utilized in an offensive capacity.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panther_tank#Steering_and_transmission

>The tanks could not participate in major movements of more than 100 km without adversely affecting unit strengths due to breakdowns

Tiger I's and all the other large retarded designs from 1942 onwards are a developmental dead end. Stop immediately.

The V1 and V2 rocket programs to be stopped immediately. Re-purpose some funds towards the development of the 262, but the majority should be reinvested into more traditional production.

There was a shitload that could have been done to achieve a victory, or at least to knock out Russia from the war.
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>>31926542
Personally I would redesign the Tiger 1, mechanically is was sound, the armor was just too much for its drive train.

So basically a pather with tiger drive train.
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>>31926388
tell him to shit out panthers.
and tell him to stop poducing fucking consumer goods.

germanys industry didnt go full warmode before 43 I think
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>>31926521
Sloped amour.
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>>31926521
>May 11th of 1942, VK3002 project received the designation of Panther
The DB design was lighter, smaller and was contemporarily considered a superior design, but because it required an entirely new turret, it would have taken longer to get into production and out into the field. Though the same happened with the MAN design, since it was plagued with such a wide variety of mechanical issues.
It could have used non-interleaving road wheels though.
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Stop production of the Panzer IV and Tiger 1 immediately

Keep producing the Panzer IV's transmission and suspension so that the entire productionline needs to be built up again from scratch

Design a new hull based on the T34, focus on angling, eliminating shot traps and keep the armor on the front

Single row of roadwheels, like what the fuck man we don't need 12 road wheels

Strip off the anti-magnetic coat. Fuck nigger, nobody uses magnetic AT grenades. Resources down the drain to keep applying it.

Add on a turret with the best electric motor the Reich can produce, with a painstaking attention to robustness. Equip it with the Panther's high velocity 75mm, with a co-axial MG. Commander, gunner, loader, driver. Roof-mounted MGs for the loader and Commander.

Aim at keeping it as close to 35 tons as possible. One tank, one Reich, one dream.
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>>31926388
>put a bigger gun on an existing model
>build lots of them
>siphon off development budget into Swiss bank account
>make plans to flee Europe before everything turns to shit
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Hey adolf you heard about those gundams
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>>31926562
the panther is just as sloped anon

>>31926568
if we consider the original man design, the weight is the same, the MAN was shorter but 20cm taller.
centered turret is also more balanced than one in the front. and the DB had a smaller turret ring so mounting larger guns would have been an issue

listen, the t34s only quality in the end was that it was shat out of russian factories at incredible speed. the germans could not do that. and with their limited resources and facilities mechanical issues were inevitable.

I could see the original MAN 3002 being a good contender, since the drivetrains etc would hold.
or spending a little more time on the 43 ton panther, redesigning its drivetrain more, to handle the weight increase
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Bummer bike covered in panzershreks
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>>31926388
1. Simply bigger Panzer III suspension, maybe with 7 ground wheels and wide enough tracks.
2. Rear transmission to make it a little lower and lighter, also making it easier to fix.
3. ~60mm sloped front hull, 100mm turret front, 50mm to sides and rear. Hoping that this stays at 35-40 tons.
4. 600 to 700hp engine.
5. 7.5cm L/48 is fine for 1941-43, but later needs turret with bigger gun. Maybe even 8.8cm L/71 for turretless TD version.
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>>31926388
Skip the "replacement", focus on production and improvement of the IV, especially Ausf. H and better. Easily the best tanks the Germans had, and the cost-cut later versions were crap because of wasted resources in low-production rate wunderwaffles.
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>>31926443
>No hatches for driver and radio operator

In the bin it goes
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>>31926829
Do it T-34 style. Driver and radio operator dive through the front hatch head first.
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>>31926825
H was the pinnacle of Panzer IV evolution, chassis and suspension could not take more weight.

And Panzer IV as much to produce then Panther.
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>>31926838
not a treadhead here, so i'm probably wrong on this, but aren't the hatches on the front a bit of a weak point?
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>>31926846
The odds of a round hitting the hatch are surprisingly slim. And even if that were the case, it's practically as thick as the rest of the frontal arc.
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>>31926846
Only when it was open
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>>31926846
Edges of hatches can crack and T-34s sometimes had those driver hatches blown inside from nonpenetrating hits.
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>>31926388
>What do you create
My breakfast you idiot. You never said I was assigned to the tank project
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>>31926916
>Hitler himself tasks you with the development of a tank
> You never said I was assigned to the tank project
wew
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>>31926618
Zeon stuff would probably be more aesthetically appropriate for the Nazis.
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>>31926916
>Hitler himself tasks you with the development of a tank
Basic reading comprehension isn't your forte, is it lad?
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>>31926388
the panther, but add a panoramic sight for the gunner and can all further tank development
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>>31926829
Are you blind?
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>>31926388
Doesn't matter which tank or design specifics as long as they aren't full retard. Problem lies in production methodology. Single tank assembly in fixed bay is slow as fuck and you motherfuckers needed to move to assembly lines two years ago.
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>>31926388
I would build the m1a2
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>>31926846
>>31926864
>>31926878

panther G removed the hatch from combat experience.
the hatch creates a stress concentration in the front plate, so its not only anout hitting the hatch itself
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Skoda T-25. Which I sadly only even know of because of World of Tanks. Shame that cool little thing never got anywhere.
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>>31926388
Leopard 2
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>>31926388
A jdam kit.
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>>31926568
here is some cheep ass suspension
would probably result in higher peak ground pressure
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>Make a HVSS suspension tank with a lower profile and a V12 diesel engine
>Make the driver lay down instead of sitting to reduce the tank's profile even further
>Focus the armor development on a sloped and strong frontal armor
>Use a combination of metal plates with rubber layers sandwiched between them
>Make it friendly to add on armor
>Give more focus on 76mm and 90mm high velocity cannons
>Give more focus to better ammunition to defeat heavy tanks instead of making huge tanks
>Make a commander and loader hatch with machineguns and ditch the frontal hull machinegun
>Give every tank a radio and helmets with radios attached for internal communication
>Make it mechanically simple to make maintenance easier
>Haul my Jewish ass to America and give the schematics to them
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>>31926388
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>>31926568
>hull based on the T34
>hatch in the glacis
>hideous sponsons
How piece of shit T-34 can even compete with glorious shoebox design?
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extend 80 mm plate upto roof
upgrade engine
supercharge engine
lower final drive ratio
camp like a mofo
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Hetzer, but with more armor, higher amount of gun depression and more side-to side movement of the gun. 60mm sloped plates on the front are not enough, it needs at least 80mm.
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>>31927522
that tank is sooo fucking tiny.
saw one when i was in france one time.
its literally the size of a tiny car.
to get more gun field of fire, you would need to up the size, and then you just have a jagdpanther anyways
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>>31927522
So, basically a Jagdpanzer IV
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>>31926388
Well, since old Adolf would probably kill him if I said something to the effect of:

>it's pointless, we're fucked already. We have neither the manpower or resources to produce either enough tanks or an effective enough force multiplier

so probably what >>31926396 says. Build T-34s with some design revisions, such as better ergonomics and slightly better optics.
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>>31926487
Not enough time lad, T-34s and Shermans would be rolling up your arse by the time it APDS is remotely feasible. 88s on tanks are a meme, keep them on static positions and go for long 75s. As long as they can pen a T-34 they're good enough.
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Up gun the panzer 3 to 75mm and just shit out as many as possible.
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>>31926388
Herman the German Sherman (male)
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>>31927716
They tried that. The turret ring wasn't large enough. That's the entire reason why the Pz IV became the main tank.
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>>31926388
>implying the Pz IV was the main tank in 1941
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>>31927408
this desu, rush MBTs
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>>31927716
Panzer III/IV
Maybach HL 157
pak 41
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>>31926471
Yes.
Faggotry is unbecoming.
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>>31926513
>1. Tractor simplicity like the T34. They will be build by slaves, after all.
Can't spell slave without slav.
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>>31926838
>Russians
>Rain ponchos

kek
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>>31926521
weighs 15 tonne less
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>>31926388
A T-54 with the 88mm/56
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>>31926539
But where are you gonna get those trucks from? You realize you aren't the only one who thought to simplify logistics with trucks. The Germans only relied on horses because they had to.
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>>31926388
>keep pz3, it's cute as fuck
>upgrade it to ausf. M standard + skirts

>keep Pz4 - ausf. H version
>wider tracks
>better suspension
>long 7,5cm gun
>fin stabilized HEAT rounds (vo=1000m/s)
>optical distance measuring equipment
>move turret a little bit more to the back for a better weight distribution
>make sherman sytle "easy to access gearbox/transmission"
>stronger turret armor (gun manlet over the whole turretfront)
>skirts

>give all tanks rotating cupolas for better situation awareness

main focus:
>panzerfaust and panzerschrecks (RPG) for infantry
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>>31926388
A tri turreted tank with an assault gun on the bottom, an 88 kwk in the middle and a quad 20mm on top.
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>>31930644
So, a whole new tank?
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>>31926388
Take the panther, stick with the original planetary transmission, and remove all jews from the tank assembly lines so half of the stuff manufactured is not already sabotaged when it is installed.
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>>31927382
>jew asked to do something by germans
>first thought is how best to betray them
really living up to the stereotypes there morty
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>>31926388
>anon you must help the Fatherland...

Well, Hitler. First of all thanks for thawing me out after that five thousand year slumber, my time machine fucked up. Secondly, you're a retard, since we're in private I can say this without you losing face.

Thirdly, this goes beyond motherfucking tanks. Stop with the V weapons except for the V2, tell von Braun to unfuck himself or I'll do it for him. Verify the accuracy using several sources, when they do hit they level entire city blocks and are un-fucking-stoppable. Mobile launchers too, silos are stupid. Aircraft carrier is a good idea, don't scrap it, but those fuckhueg battleships are definitely going to be obsolete in a few decades and they're basically fucking useless now since you can't do anything with them. Are you building enough U-Boats? Tell Donitz to use them right, it's 1941 get that shit done. Jets are going to be fucking amazing, focus on the 262 and better engines. Oh, and that He-100? Build more of those, they're better than the Bf-109 in literally every possible way. Bf-110 is shit and all like it are shit, stop with the bomber destroyer shit all they are is shitty light bombers. You need strategic bombers, big bombers, four-engines rape machines. I know it's going to be hard to build that but... oh wait.

About that.

Don't start killing the Jews! You're wasting so much on your autism, perfect fucking slave labor force, and while we're on that subject treat your subjugated people better. Conscript them, vet them, free up Germans for real fighting. Don't shit on Ukrainians, they fucking hate the shit out of the USSR. Oh, and for the love of all that's good start rechambering captured weapons and immediately shift all infantry rifle production to the MKb 42, focus on Walther's design.

As for that tank: Panzer IV Ausf. H all the way, along with the Panzer V with a T-34 suspension. It won't look pretty but it'll work.

Switch all tank guns to your long-barrel 75mm if possible, that's the winner.
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>>31932579
Five star post.
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>>31926388
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ZE BOLSHEVIKS SUCK AT MAKINK TANKS!
AHAHAAAA!!!
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>>31926388
I dont develop a new tank
Upgrade panzer 4s and stugs.
Ditch the superheavies
Make the tiger 1 not a piece of shit
Drown the allies in cheap tanks.
Dump more money into ammo research.
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>>31926388
Tell him to have things standardized
>>31932579
and then basically this
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I'd want a new tank with the following features.

>50 tons or less
>torsion bar suspension
>diesel engine
>ability to switch out most modules (engine, gun, turret) as new technologies become available

And then have prizes and shit for whoever can design the best HEAT warheads under a certain price, whoever can design the best spaced armor panelling, whoever can implement wet stowage or night vision at a reasonable cost.

And then I'd try my best not to associate with the SS, the Final Solution, or anything to do with the Eastern Front.

I can't help Germany against the post-war commie land grabs if I've been hanged at Nuremberg.
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>>31932956
Oh shit, I forgot the most important thing

>if three man can't comfortably sit in the turret, immediately have the designer shot
>jumbo sized escape hatches, because crews are expensive
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