What sort of navy does Russia need to defend its territory?

>>31891965
What does it NEED?
Fuck loads of Frigates fit to operate in the arctic.

These would be for ISR, early warning radar bubbles, escorting ships and submarine hunting and detection.

Russia doesn't need its current BIG POOSHKA SHIP MANY MISSOLE IS KILL AMERICANSKY NAVY but unfortunately, or rather fortunately for us they're going to continue on their route of building BIG MISSOLE SHIP instead of creating a comprehensive and layered defense and patrol bubble around their waters.

Eh.
Just makes it easier for Ohio's or whatever they're replacing them with soon to get past.

>>31892007
>BIG POOSHKA SHIP MANY MISSOLE IS KILL AMERICANSKY NAVY

Is it even possible for burgerclaps to discuss this topic without going full autism?

You only made it three sentences before collapsing into idiotic spergbabble.

>>31891965
fuck the navy, they get missiled to shit in the first hour

Russia doesn't have any ports worth a shit. Why would they need a navy?

>>31892025
But_hes_not_wrong.jpg

Russia's had an OK sub fleet since forever, but for whatever reason they've decided to go toe to toe with our surface fleet rather than using land assets for attack and navy for defense

>>31892210
>But_hes_not_wrong.jpg

Yes, he is.

And he's autistic.

You can stop replying now. Your input on this topic simply isn't necessary.

>>31892251
You haven't really brought much to the discussion either. So how about you fuck off too.

Russia is too poor for a large navy. Russia needs to consolidate, look towards a more defensive approach until they have the money to spend on a larger navy.

>>31891965
They don't need a carrier for a defensive fleet. Just retire the Kuz and don't bother with the Shtorm, which will inevitably be a multi-decade long shitshow. Use the money to buy actual working ships.

>>31892274

Excuse me, you were told to stop replying.

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>>31892251
>question about Russian naval doctrine
>various theories on Russian naval doctrine
>"You can stop replying now. Your input on this topic simply isn't necessary."

>>31892322
>be asked a simple question
>immediately sperg out and attempt to derail thread with insane autistic garbage
>be asked to leave the thread
>continue to shit up the thread with insane autistic garbage

Just stop doing this.

Low maintenance long range ships that use conventional fuel instead of nuclear. Centralized plumbing, centralized heating, etc etc all that stuff. Color coded everything from wires to pipes for easy repairs and whatnot. Simple interior designs. Very thick insulation to save power and money and fuel. No batteries, only a backup generator. Fuel powered everything.

They have a lot of coastline and need to make ships that don't need much in the way of maintenance.

>>31892345
>4chains is one person

Yeah, that guys was making autistic jokes, but he wasn't wrong. Russian naval doctrine has been full of hollow braggadocio, which is a poor use of their available funding considering their most likely enemy force (USN).

a fuckload of coastal AA/AS missiles directed by an extended radar coverage from a fleet (with maybe some moderate ASW abilities) would be vastly more cost effective.

Let the Chinese draw us into a naval war to bleed us, and THEN refit your fleet for the new paradigm.

Why you'd try to start a pissing contest with MAD is beyond me.

Attack submarine, destroyer, land based anti ship missile

>>31891965
>Russia
>coastline defense boats
>not up to snuff

OH I am laughing.

They've got tons of great patrol boat / corvettes putting about.

It's their ocean going fleets that got super neglected, not their coast line stuff.

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>>31891965

>What sort of navy does Russia need to defend its territory?

A modest step in the right direction.