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Looking at history, what small countries have proved to be competent

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Looking at history, what small countries have proved to be competent at fighting?
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Finland
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>>31891862
Bongland
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Finland
Greece
Israel
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Finland
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>>31891862
All wars or recent ones
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>>31891884
>Israel
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>>31891862
Switzerland.
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I guess you can also add the Afghanis and Nepalese

Vietnam might be too big to be considered small
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>>31891862
Japan.

Then. Not now. Although maybe with the right motivation...
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>>31891911
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six-Day_War

Kikes can fight.
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>>31891911
Make an argument any time
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>>31891911

They're small and they managed to be competent.

Admittedly what they were facing was a complete gongshow but eh.
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>>31891873
Not small

>>31891884
>israel
with US's tax money any country can be competent

>Greece
how so?

>>31891907
both
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Def Finland

Also

>completely surrounded by enemies
>under constant terrorist threat
>tiny
>undefeated

Israel is the most badass country in the middle east, whether stormfags like it or not
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>>31891938
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>>31891955
Yeah, but they're fighting Arabs.
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>>31891884
>Finland
BTFO by Soviets as soon as they stopped fucking around
>Greece
BTFO by Turks
>Israel
Survive only on US military and financial help.

Ladies and Gentlemen. I present you Paraguay.
>The Paraguayan War, also known as the War of the Triple Alliance and the Great War in Paraguay, was a South American war fought from 1864 to 1870 between Paraguay and the Triple Alliance of Argentina, the Empire of Brazil, and Uruguay. With an estimated 400,000 deaths, the war was the deadliest and bloodiest in Latin America's history. It particularly devastated Paraguay, which suffered catastrophic losses in population - almost 70% of its adult male population died, according to some counts - and was forced to cede territory to Argentina and Brazil. According to some estimates, Paraguay's pre-war population of 525,000 was reduced to 221,000 of which only 28,000 were men
Literally fight to last men.
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I get Finland but what have they done other than fighting the ruskies?

They didn't even fought overseas or conquered territories.
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A minor European nation went on to control the largest empire the world has seen through naval supremacy.
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>>31891938
France, England, United States, Malta, Israel
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>>31891911

State an argument instead of posting funny niggers.
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>>31891970
Most small countries haven't exactly gone out and conquered people overseas.

Unless you consider european powers kicking the shit out of third world people a few centuries ago an example of small countries being good, in which case it's going to be a gigantic list.

>>31891938

Greece has ancient history of kicking the shit out of Persians, and they did decent in WW2, though I guess facing Italy makes everyone look good. They didn't do that bad against Turkey given the size differences involved.

>with US's tax money any country can be competent

If this were the case we would have won Vietnam, and we wouldn't be doing nation building shit in Afghanistan and Iraq
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>>31892010
ok, tiny country surrounded by retards that just gets help from other bigger countries that are actually competent. If they didn't have external assistance to set up and maintain their military they'd be fucked.
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Portugal !
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>>31892006
Are you fucking stupid? What part of small can't you understand.

>>>31892022
>Unless you consider european powers kicking the shit out of third world people a few centuries ago an example of small countries being good
I sure do.

>>31892022
>If this were the case we would have won Vietnam, and we wouldn't be doing nation building shit in Afghanistan and Iraq
Different things, American pumping money into them and politically being an ally was the thing that kept them as state. not their capabilities to fight.
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>>31892038
>if they weren't competent, they wouldn't be competent!

Still waiting for that argument.
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>>31891862
Prussia
netherlands
Sulus
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>>31891862
It's amusing to me that no one in this thread has mentioned Assyria, Arabia, or Mongolia.
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>>31892070
how so?
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>>31892006
>France,

One of the largest land powers in the world (and one of the few European powers with overseas territories) is not a "small country"

>England,

That's not a country.

Did you mean Britain? Or the UK? Saying "England" when you mean the UK is like saying "New York" when you mean "The United States of America"

>United States,

Yeah, over two centuries ago.

>Malta,

This is a tiny island that was a possession of the UK when it was actually involved in any conflicts. So you're wrong again.

>Israel

Literally the only part of this list that's correct.

Unfuck yourself double quick. This kind of shit doesn't fly in the real world.
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>>31891862
Bulgaria
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>>31892131
>England,
>That's not a country
what did he meant by this~?
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>>31892161
Have you tried reading any time recently?
>Did you mean Britain? Or the UK? Saying "England" when you mean the UK is like saying "New York" when you mean "The United States of America"
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>>31891955
JIDF sure is coming on strong today, weird
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>>31892161
>>31892201
I think he's just underage b&
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>>31891963
>>31891938
>with US's tax money any country can be competent
>Survive only on US military and financial help.

opinion discarded.
Israel won their independence war under US and western European embargoes.

They have won the 1956 and the six days war without any US support with mostly French and mix and match equipment.

The US only began substantial financial aid to Israel in the late 70's.

Your statements are factually incorrect.
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Chile, they have never lost a war.
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>>31891862
SERBIA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMkS0qmaCKM
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>>31892072
>all wars
The thread said any war I'm mostly going off of when they were small
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>>31891862
None of them.

>inb4 spartica, that was all BS
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>>31891919
I would not consider Afghanistan to be small either but I can't disagree with the idea of them being tough.
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>>31892413
>spartica
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>>31892376
You make it seem like US aid was the only reason that Israel won those wars.

They also had pretty good locally made equipment, good training, good tactics, and smart military leadership.
The US aid was important but it was not the only important factor.
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>>31892201
England is a country though. It is part of a unity.
Saying "England" is like saying the state of Texas, a state part of the united states.

Before acting smart you should stop being so damn stupid.
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>>31892587
>You make it seem like water is wet.
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>>31892587
Weren't the Israelis using French jets
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>>31891963
Sounds like they were pretty incompetent.

>Belgium
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>>31892608
>Does not know the slightest thing about Israeli history.
>Can't handle a country constantly in war is actually good at it.
Must be burgers.
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>>31891862
Also Malta
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>>31892643
your nose is showing
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>>31892587
exactly the oposite. The US had nothing to do with Israel winning all wars prior to 1973.
In 1973 the US played a pretty significant role in supplying the Israelis and deterring the Soviets from directly intervening. But then the Arabs were supplied 3x the amount of equipment Israel was mid war.

>>31892625
They were, Israel only started to use F-4 in the very late 60's early 70's.

The jets were hardly the only non american hardware. The main US made weapon system in Israeli use were battle tanks, still many others were French ones or modified captured T-55's.

>>31892689
>>31892608
Zero arguments by this ID.
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>>31891929
>Kikes can fight.
Using western technology purchased through holocaust guilt and jew gold.
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>>31891862
fucking Serbia throught WWI
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>>31891938
>with US's tax money any country can be competent
Which is why iraq is now a competitive world player
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>ctrl-f Rhodesia
>0 results
What the fuck day /k/
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>>31892689
>Confirmed burgers
Too easy.
You don't have to be a kike to know history. You guys always try to forget your own history so I can't really blame you.
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>>31892755
This
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Netherlands have a surprisingly cool and competent military.
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>>31892587
You make it seem like you are unable to read.
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>>31891970
Finnish hakkapeliittas were a considerable fighting force in the Swedish army, back when Finland was still part of Sweden. Coincidentally, ever since Sweden lost Finland to Russia, they haven't been at war since (volunteers do not count
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>>31892748
Read
>>31892761
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ANZACS
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>>31892765
Name one war Rhodesia won. They lost politicaly not militarily but they also didn't win.
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>>31892786
Whenever they show their competence the whole dutch population starts screaming bloody murder.
>Dutch-indies 1945-1949
>Dutch train hostage crisis 1977
>Battle for Chora 2007
When the UN wont let them fight the rest of the world screams bloody murder.
>Srebrenica 1995
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>>31891912
This.
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>>31891911
I hate Jews but those kikes are great at fighting.
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>>31892854
The thread says "competent at fighting" and the Rhodies certainly were.
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>>31891963
>BTFO by Soviets as soon as they stopped fucking around
At that point they had already taken over Poland. Russians had thousands of tanks, fires, bombers and fighters. Finns had none. They had wood chops for AT weaponry.

Dedication, smarts and fighting until till the last man, is what kept the murderous Russian menace from destroying a democratic country in the north.
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Australia

>Never lost a real war

>Be strong, handsome, tough soldiers

>American women prefer us

>Better equipment

>Best paid army in the world

>NVA were scared shitless of us in Nam while they laughed at and insulted US troops

>Jungle warfare experts

Feels good to be masterrace
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>>31892971
This is b8
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>>31892909
sure thing, kike
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>>31893018
Facts are bait now?
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>>31892733

u wot m8

American assistance to Israel started the moment the country was created, kicked into overdrive after 1967, and then into the complete joke it is today in 1973.
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>>31892971
>unironically lost a war to Emus
KEK
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>>31891912
But who have they fought?
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>>31893072
Nice reading skills you got there buddy
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>>31891862
Switzerland, Finland, Ethiopia, Greece, and that's all I can think of for now.
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>>31893090
>implying the well documented domestic war against Emus wasn't a real war
M80 plz
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Rwanda. Kagme is pretty competent leader, and rwandan troops despite being small and underequipped are trained to very high standard compared to their neighbours - and during congo wars they , literally murdersmashed their way through much stronger, more numerous and better equipped opponents.

We are talking about almost rhodesia levels of beatdown laid by small, but well trained forces of light infantry against dudes who outnumbered them by orders of magnitude, equipped with tanks, artillery and air support.

Ironicaly, Zimbabwe attemted to fireforce Rwandans rhodie-style, but after some initial succes , Rwandans adapted and murderfucked Zimbabwe fireforces and their helosin some preplanned ambushes.
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>>31893156

You type like a teenager. It's also pretty obvious that you're a virgin, because you talk like a /b/tard.
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>>31893142
>switzerland

Literally a buffer state that lost wars to France and was cobbled together to prevent Austria and France going at it.
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Belgium, the Netherlands and Portugal created vast, profitable empires that lasted centuries by being extremely skilled at using what little they had.
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>>31892971

It's a shame that your shooting time ends when you EAS. It's really nice to get custom built uppers and shit for 30 percent off just for being a supply pogue for four years before college. Have fun fighting for your life in parliament to get your hands on a lever action scattergat with a capacity under six shells.
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>>31891912
Holding everyone's money so nobody attacks you is a valid strategy, but I dont believe it falls into the category the OP put forward.
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>>31893585
>lost to Emus
>uses le edgy /b/ fag defense
Dude please, don't make me tell the Emus
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>>31893606
>>31893810
>not being aware of how retardedly effective Swiss were in the early pike and shot era
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>>31891867
came here to post this but you beat me to it. FPBP.
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>>31891862
Malta
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Canada
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>>31895817
Yeah, when a Catholic proto-nato AND a spanish army do the lion and lamb's share of the fighting (leaving you with the fish's part).

And the normans before that.

When did the maltese whoop ass on their own?
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>>31891862
Zulu, Ethiopia, Nepal
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>>31897405
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Siege_of_Malta
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>>31897528
The Knight's of St. John is the "catholic proto-nato" I was referencing you fucking knob. And the spanish had several thousand soldiers their two.

The malts did swimming and attacked a few turks ona beach.

Not saying those That Did Fight weren't brave. Not saying that at all.

But there is a reason Dragut could enslave all of gozo with just a fraction of their numbers.

Fuck the malts, they need others to do 90% of their fighting.

And your women are whores too.
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>>31897568
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>>31897600
My argument is clearly that your country, malta, never does its own fighting so they are not applicable.

You posted a image.

Your mother and ever female on your rock is a genetic whore from the stoneage on. It is likely the only way you've survived as a people.

Them knight gardens probably smelled like pussy non-stop.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuZAvEAZs-o
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>>31893080
Germany was never squeamish about invading neutral countries. Germany was never squeamish about invading notoriously difficult to invade countries. Yet tiny Switzerland, whose national pastimes are chocolate-making and democracy, managed to sit out the bloodiest war in the history of mankind surrounded on all sides by Axis or Axis-occupied countries.

Because their national pastimes also include mountain climing and shooting crap. They are the embodiment of "behind every blade of grass"
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>>31897689
or in their case, "behind every flake of pristine glacial snow"
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>>31897689
>>31897693
Fuck me, I didn't mean to name. I made another thread somewhere else and forgot to take it back off.
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>>31891963
>BTFO by Soviets as soon as they stopped fucking around
Well no fucking shit. The Finns themselves knew that in the long run they could never win against the sheer numbers of the Red Army. But looking at their performance and how many Ruskies they took down before the inevitable surrender, they fought well.
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>>31891867
>20th century finland
ftfy
they should worship Samuel Colt.

>>31892761
>currently has territory occupied by daesh
>competitive world player
>russia is threatening to delcare war if the us helps them
lolwut
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>>31897642
I'm not even from Malta but you sound pretty butthurt
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>>31897760
The bit about iraq was obviously sarcastic, fucking kill yourself.

How do you even talk to people in real life?
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>>31897568
>>31897642
Something tells me you're a Turk
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>>31897770
This is actually not an argument, good job you cowardly whorespawn.
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>>31893156
>he thinks the emu war was an actual war
i bet you're a yank
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>>31897778
No, dragut was a faggot for enslaving a whole people for his faggot brother getting his own ass killed. The turks are dumb cunts and bullies.

But credit were credit is due. Saying malta is a capable fighter is like saying cleavland's ballpark won the world series for the cubs.

It's simply the ground where the motherfucking knight's did all of maltese people's (and europe's) work.

Malts are ALWAYS taking credit for their protectors and/or conquerors works.
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>>31891911
jealous arab spotted.
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>>31897786
>>31897815
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>>31892971
>Battle of Brisbane
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>>31891862
Denmark
Germany but theyre not that tiny
UK but thats brit and tjeir bitches.
Fucking Vietnam
Finland, small population wise
Israel
Iraq until the first tussle with the US because a continent sized country will fuck your shit
Pakistan, they just dont cooperate with the us so they play dumb and act like baddies so you might not think so
Ukraine
JAPAN
The Koreas
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>>31897843
How was any of that bait? It was ornery, but objectively true.

>fishposters be faggots
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>>31897777
>currently has territory occupied by daesh
>competitive world player
>russia is threatening to delcare war if the us helps them
lolwut
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>>31891963
>population of 525,000 was reduced to 221,000 of which only 28,000 were men
So essentially, 10 women per man
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>>31897849
Iraq was not a competent army, they were just well funded

Read this:
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/report/1992/KRL.htm

The air defense systems they purchased from Russia were kept online by Russian tech support. When America took them out, it was very possible to repair them and restart their massive land based anti air capabilities. But America simply asked Russia to not do that. As a result, the Iraq army had no idea how to get them back online and were completely fucked. Overly reliant on foreign support.
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>>31897866
>This damage control

Not being able to detect sarcasm is a clear sign of severe autism

Maybe get checked out
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>>31893630
at least my kids won't get beaten to death by niggers, or shot by an autist in 3rd grade.
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>>31897568
Are you retarded
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>>31897877
MEIN FURHER I CAN WALK

though in all honesty
ywn repopulate your country with fine ass criollas and mestizas
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>>31897902
Aparently both your parents were.

Don't forget that the maltese aided the french in ejecting the knights whom saved their asses, then got raped hard by napoleon's troops and begged for british help only to cry about being u der their yoke until the 70s when the empire was not really wanting to empire anymore anyway.

suck my cock you whore

>>31897866
>incredulousjaguarsfan.fuckoff
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>>31897895
If you're trying to defend Australia, you're doing a poor job. Adjusted for population size, your violent crime, especially "nigger" violent crime is quite bad.

You faggots have shootings more often than are reported, biker gangs and others are constantly using illegal guns. It is amazing to me that that coffee shop shooting made the news with the tourism slanted gun cri,e gag that you homls usually enforce, ala japan and england.

if this wasn't pertaining to aus then fuck it I'm half asleep arguing with text
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>>31897815
>3,000 Maltese soldiers
>they didn't do anything it was all the other European nations who did it.
You need to learn how to read and learn history before you start acting like an angry turkroach.
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>>31897887
>currently has territory occupied by daesh
>competitive world player
>russia is threatening to delcare war if the us helps them
lolwut
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>>31891925
>>31897849
>Japan.
>Small
It's the size of fucking california or the entire US east coast and was so big, historically the people were landlubber fucks useless at sea.
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>>31898003
That was 3000 press ganged maltese that were used for menial work, moving cannons, digging, sending messages and support related jobs, as they were NOT trained soldiers in the least. They weren't even armed or armored beyond hachets and daggers. The only offensive action of the maltese was 1 possibly 2 small unit actions against turk small boats and/or swimmers.

why must I be a turkroach to call the malts out for being cowards, capitulators, and crsdit thieves?

I doubt I'd love the knights and la valet if I was a turk, but whatever makes my cum easier to swallow, whorespawn.

Again, the population of fucking gozo was more than 5000 easy, but got rounded up by a ship's worth of corsairs because too scared to fight on their own.

too. scared.
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>>31891970
They also fought the Germans, and won, later in the war.
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>>31898072
I forgot to add that the number of proper fighters from the rest of europe, mostly spain, far dwarfed that high end nu,ber of 3000.

Many sources list the number of maltese "fighters" as only several hundred. And that fucking counting women and children.
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>>31892376
That's fucking bullshit, they were flooded with M4 Shermans and M60 Pattons, hell during the Suez Crisis they had brand spanking new French equipment, AMX-13's, AMX-TT's and were early as fuck Mirage adopters.
The only embargoes on Israel was for certain specific military equipment which they just obtained by proxy anyway
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>>31892625
Up until the 60's most of their shit was french or belgian, even the super shermans used french guns
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>>31893070
This is partially true - Israel had a ton of M3 halftracks and shermans, M1 Carbines, and M1919 and M2 mg's.

Israel went heavily for French arms in the 50's and 60's because the US didn't have feasible modern export models, NATO members got priority and because of the imminent danger of shipping top of the line military tech to Israel only to have the KGB steal it.
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>>31898131
Don't forget that france was still an "equal partner" in NATO at the time, with nato manuals being in both english and french. The frogs likely relished having some silly mission like provide crap to the jews. Probably made them feel good, which made americans happy to have those stupid frogs feel good about themselves. This was all with top level knowledge that france was actually becoming lessimportant to nato by the second.
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>>31898072
I don't see a single source that says that the entirety of Malta took credit nor does most say the number were smaller. The reason that anon keeps calling you a turkroach is because they get extremely butt hurt about battles or wars they've lost. And the knight order there was a branch of the knights hospitaller called the Knights of Malta
>>31898096
I don't know if you this but a lot of nations when cornered and surrounded use every single person that can do something or help fight
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>>31892201

Do you even remotely understand why it's called the United Kingdom? Like even a tiny little bit you fucking retard? Don't you read something a little odd and say "huh, Iwhy would they call themselves the UNITED kingdom if it's all one country?"

The UK is a unified government of the COUNTRY of England, the COUNTRY of Wales, the COUNTRY of Scotland, and wholly independent of the other Ireland COUNTRY of Northern Ireland.

Read some history you incredible faggot, they were all separate entities that were unified over time. But each retains its own lesser government all falling under the Parliament of the UK and ultimately the Crown.

How the fuck else could Scotland have been voting to leave the UK?
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>>31898168
Motherfucker, the wiki article alone list 400 and 3000, check the sources their for the confliction.
This thread is about nation the can hold their own, and malta cannot.

the knights of malta as you call them were the knights of rhodes before that and the knights hospitallers of jerusalem even earliers, but none of that matters because those were informal titles. The shortest official name has always been the knight's of st. john.

Also, the island wasn't even officially hospitaller domain, the island belonged totally to spain and was leased to the knights (after the loss of rhodes) for the ceremonial fee of one maltese falcon per hear.

you only accuse me of being a turkroach because it is easier to insult me, you son of a whore, than to refute my points.

The points are again, malta doesn't defnd itself, and all the important conflicts were fought by non-maltese by the bulk.

I did assign the lion and lamb's share to these outsiders in the first post, and let you whorespawn keep the fish's share (as a joke since they only really contributed where swimming was involved).

suck it all down
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>>31898031
Finland is pretty fucking big but i didnt see you sperging about it ichiban desu senpai
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>>31898168
You realize that the "Knights of Malta" were from almost anywhere in Europe BUT Malta, right?
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>>31898031
Japan is smaller than california and half the size of fucking texas.
Its about as big is their brown little dicks.
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>>31898229
Yes. All knight orders are like that.
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>>31898261
No they're not. Tectonics were entirely from germanic areas, most in prussia/(modern)germany proper. Templars were mostly, if not entirely french. Both these orders, the 2 largest orders mind you as well, were headquartered in the lands their knights came from (not cou ting the holy lands they lost, of course).

Describing the hospitallers as a catholic proto nato is accurate and singular in the political landscape of the day.
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>>31893070
I history m8.

>American assistance to Israel started the moment the country was created
False.
American embargo started the moment Israel was created.
Arms sales to Israel were forbidden during the Israeli independence war which lasted in the years of 1948 to 1949.
And so zero arms sales happened.

I wouldn't even bother mentioning aid.

>kicked into overdrive after 1967
Selling weapons is aid?
The amount of aid Israel started to receive after 1967 was miniscule compared in total numbers
Or compared the amount of aid other US allies which were on the fore front of communism were recieving (mostly complete with active US deployment).

Keeping the USSR in check in the ME via Israel was by far the most efficient use for IS money during the cold war.

>and then into the complete joke it is today in 1973.
Which is still less than the amount of aid we give to the Arabs/Muslims around Israel, per year. Not counting Iraq.

Oh, and it was not 1973, it was 1978.

1978, the year that the Israeli-US-Egyptian peace treaty was signed. The one where Egypt decided to ally with the US instead of USSR, effectively curbing USSR/Russian influence from the ME till the days Obama entered the white house.

A deal that was only possible through the Israeli forfeiting Sinai and forgoing the destruction of the Egyptian 3rd army.

A deal that also guaranteed over a billion $ aid per year to Egypt.

The difference between you and me is that I actually know more than once liner. That my knowledge is not based on memes and pictures, but is accurate and extensive. Allowing me to understand that context of an event.

You however are an easily brainwashed plebeian. In many other universes a small event would have caused you to get brainwashed in another way. There you are prancing in Hillary shirts, working for CTR.
While I can be rest assured that my drive for knowledge and understanding, as well as critical thinking, led me to support Trump in every one.
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>>31898284
You do know that hospitaller is a French word right. And we're also mainly comprised of French as well
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>>31891862
chechnya
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>>31898107
Read what I said.
The embargo was in place during their INDEPENDENCE war.
That's 1948-1949.

The Suez crisis happened in 1957.

>The only embargoes on Israel was for certain specific military equipment which they just obtained by proxy anyway
Some were obtained by proxy, but most of the time, since we're not talking about top of the line equipment, the Israelis just got something similar instead, from a different country.

>>31898131
I didn't say the Israelis had no American tech prior to 1967.
Selling arms =/= aiding and supporting x. Especially when we're talking about old equipment.

Israel still had Shermans in active duty well into the 70's, to be finally decommissioned in the 80's.
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>>31898326
They were composed mainly of italian and spanish, with france contributing a good share as well, at least as good as the english before their departure.

you don't know shit son
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>>31898370
>The Suez crisis happened in 1957.
I mean 1956.
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>>31892131
I have bad news for your ego. England is a country, dude. The UK is a group of countries. You are factually incorrect.
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>>31898420
I would like to interject as a third party; isn't this all just semantics at this point? Is england anymore separate from the uk than Illinois is seperate from the us?

We do call Illinois a "state" and us is literally united states like uk is literally united kingdom. But what is the reality of the situation?

Which would be the fat and which the meat of the matter?
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>>31891919
Vietnam got shitkicked, don't even start

It's just hard to put down a million of anything
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>>31898441
Didn't those zipperheads lose like 3 million in the fight with the us?
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England.
Poland.
Prussia.
Vietnam.
Japan.
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>>31891862
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Canada?
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>>31897883
Oh that makes sense. But before the AA network was taken out we lost a lot more aircraft than we care to admit.
>fuck it strap another bengie to Boeings thong
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>>31898694
>Using a combination of F-117 stealth attack aircraft,
Apache helicopter gunships, and standard suppression of enemy
air defense (SEAD) tactics, the Allies were able to put the
national-level command centers out of action within the first
two hours of the air war.

How many were lost in two hours? Lel.

>Intensive jamming of Iraqi radar-
guided AAA forced the gunners to fall back on optical
guidance; but, because the first attack took place on a
moonless night, this too proved ineffective. With the
national-level command and control centers wiped out, Iraqi
fighters were essentially useless. Allied aircraft were then
free to operate over Iraq at high and medium altitudes using
SEAD tactics to attack targets defended by the low-altitude
missiles and AAA. After the first night, the Iraqis were never
able to reconstitute their national-level system, either
because they did not have sufficient spare equipment sets or
else because they did not have the technical expertise to
develop work-arounds.
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>>31898444
A defeat is a defeat. Fucking Kissinger even admits it

I'd take his words over some random anon any day
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>>31898665
Canada is only "small" by population density at second lowest after Australia. It is the 2nd largest by land mass and 38th by population.
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>>31892927

Being competent at fighting and incompentent at politics make a poor mixture.

At least they weren't as stupid as the French colonist in Algeria. That was a masterstroke of idiocy.
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>>31897827
go back to >>>/shill/
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Australia

An entire century's worth of experience fighting the most dangerous enemy known to man
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>>31898979
I dont care one way or the other about them, but I find that shit impressive. Every country in the middle east has tried to fuck with Israel in a major way, multiple times, and are still trying to do so. I know they get shitloads of support but so do arabic countries from Russia and others. They are so /k/ related it hurts. Reading up on Iron Dome alone makes my dick hard.
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>>31892391
This senpai.

Chi-chi-chi le-le-le, viva Chile!
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What's with all the aussie shills?

>Smol country
>Pic related

Its population is full of pussies, they contribute nothing but Steve Irwin reruns.

Its really painful to, they could be the /k/ist people around with how much shit could murder you there, but its a litetal nanny srate
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>>31897827
>Jewpedia

Let's see the facts :
>Israël before Yom-kippur war :
From Sinai desert to some Jordanian territories and golan heights.

>Israël after Yom-kippur war :
Lost Sinai to Egypt
Lost control of the Gaza strip to Arabs
Jordan took territories
Golan heights still in fucked up situation

You've got your ass kicked, Kike.
Even when Egypt signed peace treaty it was kicked from Arab League, because we were so close to annex the whole shit.
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>>31899089
that "test" failed to kill Emu Empire
bend knee to your avian overlords, humanoid scum.
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>>31899530
Israel traded the Sinai back for a peace deal after the war. They didn't lose it due to military conflict.
Jordan wasn't really party to the 1973 war. Gaza wasn't even a thing back then. They only gave it independence a decade ago.

Pretending as though Israel hasn't been punching well above its weight historically isn't serious.
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>>31892815
>Implying we gave them the same amount of ressources and technology.
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>>31899530
>we were so close to annex the whole shit.

so much delusion

if mudshits were ever close to actually taking jizzrael they would have done it, but as we all know mudpeople can't fight wars

>>31899691
>Jizzrael sold M60A1s, F-4s and other aircraft
>Iraq sold M1s, TOWs, Helos, aircraft, better T-72s, etc etc etc

fuck, arabs couldn't even take jizzrael when they had nothing but ww2 castoffs and weren't supported by any world power
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>>31891862
any country which has existed for a long period of time
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>>31899530
>Lost Sinai to Egypt
False.
After the war all the Egyptians held was a narrow strip along the Suez canal.
Furthermore most of the forces on the eastern side were either surrounded or in the process of being surrounded.

The Israeli crossing of the canal destroyed the Egyptian AA network and so the Egyptians were stuck without supplied being pounded mercilessly from the air.

The Egyptians were so fucked that they were begging on their knees for the Soviets to come save them.

>Sadat, who had rejected the advice of the Soviet Union on October 12 to seek a ceasefire, and who continued to reject that advice until, too late, he accepted it on October 19, now found himself begging for Soviet help.

>During the early hours of October 24, six Soviet airborne divisions were put on alert and Soviet Premier Brezhnev sent President Nixon what amounted to an ultimatum. Under pressure from the United States, Israel accepted another ceasefire from October 24.

>Lost control of the Gaza strip to Arabs
huh? I can't even fathom the delusion that motivated you to typr this. Israel left Gaza in 2005.

>Jordan took territories
The Jordanian Israeli border never saw combat. The Jordanians only joined the war when the Israelis were on the verge of rolling into Damascus, by sending armor into Syria.

>Golan heights still in fucked up situation
The Israelis turned and rolled back the massive surprise Syrian offensive back in all of three days.
It took the combined mite of the Jordanians and the Iraqis sending forces just to slow the Israeli advance and give Assad the breathing time to reorganize.
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>>31899530
>You've got your ass kicked, Kike.
>because we were so close to annex the whole shit.

Here is what the Egyptian commander in Chief had to say about the war:

>A meeting of the Armed Forces Supreme Council, the first since the outbreak of war. ...The main topic was, of course, how to open the road to Third Army. But though everyone spoke with passion, nobody could come up with a realistic plan.

>And after. On October 30, when the plight of Third Army was desperate, the Egyptian newspapers appeared with banner headlines: "Our forces are in complete control of the West Bank of the Canal between Deversoir and Suez Town" and: "The Third Army is Receiving Supplies in the Normal Fashion." The whole world was being told of the encirclement of Third Army except the wives, mothers, sisters and sweethearts of the men suffering out there. Of course, rumors began to circulate. It was a catastrophe too big to hide.

>I had lost almost 11 pounds in six weeks. But how could I relax while the 45,000 officers and men of Third Army were cut off?

On these forums it's often asked why do Arabs suck at war.
You have a living a breathing example in this very thread. They refuse to learn from their mistakes.
They refuse to acknowledge their mistakes even.

How could they ever improve?
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Chicago
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>>31898284
Teutonics also had Latvians and Estonian branches
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>>31898201
Whatever you say. I both know we won't back down on this. Put it there
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>>31899105
Valley of tears causes manly teary erections as well.
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>>31899530

Arabs trying to brag about 1973 is like Brits bragging about Dunkirk. Sure it could have gone worse, but if that is the closest thing to success you can cling to, you really got your shit pushed in, hard.
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>>31891862
>>31891867

Finland.

North Vietnam.
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>>31891867
First post, best post
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>>31892838

>Gallipoli
>>
canada if you consider its population.
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>>31900297
I still don't like malt cowards taking credit for things, normans, knights and, hell, even arabs did like just because it happened on the island they evolved on it is some how THEIR work.

And malt women are turbocharged whores with too much hair. This is from someone stuck in a relationship with one in london, bitch cheated on every guy she's dated I've found out. She admits to it even, and she used to fuck ReFuGees. But wedding is not far off and I am losing my mind trying to explain to my family, which has sunk way too much into the wedding why it needs to end.

fucking fat bitch
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>>31901051
North african refugees, she went white and stuck to it when she realized her mom and faggot dad would not take care of her forever.

basically, never trust malt women, they're all whores from whores from whores.
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>>31901051
>>31901068
What is your problem with Malta. Did a Maltese fuck your mom or something
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>>31891862
Spartaaaaa !
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>>31901129
Do you have a Selective Reading Disorder?
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>>31892376
>Israel was gifted independence from British masters

ftfy
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>>31901268
No besides all the "credit stealing" and women are whores(they are everywhere btw). What is your main problem.
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>>31901349
So was Palestine.
Was extremely effective.
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>>31891938
>bongland
>not small
We'd quite comfortably fit into Texas.
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>>31898441
Then they turned around and shitkicked the chinks
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>>31891862
The British Colonies in North America
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>>31892131
>Malta
>Doesn't count
What was the SIEGE OF MALTA BY THE OTTOMAN EMPIRE? The battle that along with the defeat at Vienna of the Ottomans eliminated the myth of Ottoman invincibility?

I guess that doesn't count cause you're clearly so knowledgeable about it
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>>31898297
/thread
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>>31891962
They also kicked the shit out of russian pilots.
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>>31891911
Not a fan of the kikes myself but you're selling them short if you don't admit they held their own against the sandnigger horde.
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>>31891925
Didn't they recently pass a law that allows then to fight wars again?
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in modern times Estonia and Slovenia have both been able to output very competent troops albeit they still have low manpower and less than ideal equipment
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>>31898781
Defeat, Heck.

It was a surrender enforced by the pro-Communist Democrats who held Congress after the post-Watergate elections.
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Scotland.
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>>31905507
Not a country lmao
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>>31891862
As a Hungarian descendant, I have to mention Hungary.
They held those Turks for about 150 years. It was a broken country for a while after though. Small population.
Years later, in WW2, Hitler himself, referred to the battalion my grandfather fought in, (St Laszlo's Battalion) and said "You are better than my own best men."
In 1956, we got those Bolsheviks in full panic mode, as we kicked all the Russians out of our country. (Until they turned up with over 3000 t-54s.)

Besides Hungary, our Finnish brothers managed to fight the Bolsheviks in WW2 hard enough for them to call it a draw. (Of sorts.)
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>>31891912
This
They are like the village from Asterix
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>>31891925
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>>31898297

Direct loans and guarantees of around $135 million were issued by the US to Israel directly after the War of Independence, which would be something like 1.3 billion dollars in today's currency for a country that at time was less than a million people. That's just the start. I

Military assistance started rolling in 1959.

Selling weapons isn't aid, but giving them away sure as shit is, which is exactly what we've been doing.

>Which is still less than the amount of aid we give to the Arabs/Muslims around Israel, per year. Not counting Iraq

We shouldn't be giving money to any of them, but for the sake of discussion, the country of eight million receives slightly less than the surrounding hundred million people, despite being a developed nation.

>Oh, and it was not 1973, it was 1978.
No, we've been very consistently providing ~2 billion in aid to Israel from 1973-1985 where it jumped to ~3.

But no, please, go ahead and accuse me of being CTR.
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>>31893183
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>>31905611

Sup m8

Fellow Hungarian here, it's nice to see my country mentioned. We're professional kebab removers.

Bolsheviks suck, though now I have accepted Putin as the lord and saviour of Europe.
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>>31899507
Weird, didn't know I wasn't /k/ enough, even though in my spare time i drive into areas no man has stepped foot in before, dismount with my .308 and hunt anything from feral pigs , to camels, to roos. Damn nanny state tho, probably banned a set of video game titties or something according to a dailymail article
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>>31891862
Macedonia.
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mother fucking Prussia
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