What is the greatest weapon ever produced and why in your opinion

it looks like it was assembled out of K'nex

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>>31880798
The best semi-auto pistol is the Hi-Power

What's the shityist thread you've ever made and why is it this one?

sage

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>>31880798
>>31880833
Wrong senpai

>>31880836
Sage goes in all fields newfag

>>31880798
Please support your thesis. All I know about this thing is that it looks kinda space age and fires .22mag.

>>31881030
>CZ 75
>literally a Czech Hi-Power clone

kek

>>31881090
I could see a carbine length rifle that accepted those mags being useful but I just do not see a light projectile in a short barrel being above mediocre

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>>31881030
I'm not >>31880833 but I prefer the Hi Power over the CZ-75 for two main reasons.

>Easier full disassembly with no tools necessary
>Larger slide easier to get a good purchase on

I concede that the CZ feels more ergonomic, has that nice double/single action trigger, likely has a lower bore axis, and slightly higher capacity, but I prefer looking at it in the long run. Hi Power will be easier to maintain in detail, and I will never have to worry about having difficulty racking the slide with my big, meaty hands. I also find that I can shoot the Hi Power more accurate, but of course that's probably just how I am; you could probably shoot a CZ better than a Hi Power because it's just a design you seem to naturally be more in tune with.

Oh yeah, and the CZ has a bit of an easier field strip. I also find that the action of reloading is a bit smoother as well. Perhaps it's the different mag design or the magwell. To be honest though, in terms of full disassemblies, I've found my CZ to be the BIGGEST pain in the ass, by far. That little fucking spring and that little fucking tiny plate of metal in that fucking manual safety I swear to fuck... FUCK! Just remembering all the bullshit I went through with that, it almost makes it hard for me to admire the design, but no, the CZ is truly a fantastic firearm, even if it makes me want to strangle it if it had a neck. This pistol is the only one I ever consider taking to a gunsmith merely for the detailed maintenance. All my other firearms I do myself, and would never dream to pay someone else to do it. I enjoy it.

>>31881090
Not OP, but here's my reasoning:
>30 Round standard magazine
>Low recoil
>High-speed round has fair armor piercing capabilities
>Not terribly expensive, and will be even less expensive if Kel-Tec can get their shit together and produce enough to meet demand
>cycles with just about any ammunition

>>31881120
The grip on the Hi-Power is unusually comfy for a double-stack gun.

>>31881136
Do you have personal experience with it? Is the round all that fast coming from a short barrel? Does it really cycle everything reliably, or does it cycle everything with the same level of mediocrity (because rimmed)?

>>31881136
Do we have muzzle velocity tests for it?

>>31881148
I find the CZ-75 to be a bit more comfy in the hand that the Hi Power, but the Hi Power is still far from uncomfortable. Just a shame that mine tends to give me hammer bite unless I'm wearing gloves... that's the one big complaint I have with it, but it's fine.

>>31881112
I wonder if an SBR-type thing with this round would have been better. It's a shame development along those lines is fucked up by regs.

>>31881170
Huh, I have pretty large hands and I have never gotten hammer bite from mine. Are you gripping it a certain way?

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>>31881136
>30 round capacity
>Most rounds generally shot in a self defence situation is between 1-3
Haven't hooked me yet, OP.
>Low recoil
So is 9mm, and I wager 9mm will cause a larger wound than .22 magnum.
>High-speed round has fair armor piercing capabilities
So does surplus 7.62x25. Hate the grip angle, but love me a good TT-33
>Not terribly expensive
Neither is the TT-33. Maybe the TT-33 is the greatest weapon ever produced, anon.
>Cycles with just about any ammunition
Geez, so does my TT-33!

>Slim
>Very compact save for the long barrel
>Less than 1kg unloaded
>7.62x25 is even lighter than 9mm
>High-speed
>Armor piercing capabilities
>Dirt cheap
>Reliable
>ZA STALINNA!

I've got new appreciation for the Tokarev, but I think this discussion brings up a new topic... is the vZ.52 better than whatever that funky pistol is that OP posted? NO! The Tokagypt... with the issue of the uncomfortably vertical grip solved, I'd happy EDC a TT. Oh that sweet, sweet TT. Gimme dat TT.

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>>31881183
It's a WWII model, made in Nazi occupied Belgium. Maybe that's why? I like to ride my hand up as high as I can, which I think most people does. Some of the web between my thumb and pointer finger gets over the lip I guess. The very first time I ever racked the slide on it, which might have been around 6 years ago, it bit me. Hot hard, but I put down the pistol to check my hand. Ultimately, either I wear gloves when shooting it, or intentionally hold my hand slightly low.

>>31881178
Honestly the mag tech stlye rifle conversion may be the way to go if it were ever to be made. Enough barrel length for sufficient if not optimal velocity, keep the mag, and keep over all weight under 5 pounds and you could have a decent youth/female/low recoil pdw

>>31881247
To be fair if there was a gun chambered in 7.62x25 that held 30 rounds I would have bought it already

I want a cmr-30 and I don't know why

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clearly the glock 19

>>31881112
And lo, lel-kek produced the CMR-30. Same mags.

>>31881824
Neat so if it is available qnd the jam farie is warded away it may be of light use.......... does it show that I haven't touched kel tec in 15 years

>>31881136
>High-speed round has fair armor piercing capabilities

Well I'm done, this thread has surpassed my threshold for maximum fucking retardation

>>31880798
It's a great design.
Too bad it's made by Kel-Tec

>>31880798
>Who is the biggest faggot, and why is it OP?

Because you make shitty fucking threads

>>31881102
>B HP
>just a 9mm dual stack 1911

>>31881102
Not really, though I kind of understand where you're coming from.

>>31883932
Afraid not. They're basically two entirely different beasts. Pretty much just some similarities externally.

>>31881247
TT-33s are expensive as fuck in the US. Yugo M57s are around $200 tho

>>31881050
sage doesn't work anymore oldfag

>>31884327
Sorry to hear. Last I heard TT-33s are still quite cheap in Canada.

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Greatest? Probably not. But I love the damn thing.