What's the best semi-auto pistol to buy for SHTF race war

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>>31837100

Glock 17/19

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>>31837143
34 isnt bad either

1911

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>>31837100
1911

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>>31837202
>reliable
>most common availability of ammo

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>>31837143
G26

I swear to God I wonder if Glock pays people for this, sometimes.

>>31837100
Whatever you can get your hands on.

Get a fucking hi-point if you can't sling the dosh.

Just arm up, pucker up, and prepare for the plunge into darkness.

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>>31837100
I saw your thread on pol you faggot.

Buy a Makarov and a can or two of 9x18 on the internet there you're set.

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>>31837202
>>31837189
I've got a 1911 and I couldn't disagree much more. 7-10 whole rounds of ammo isn't much to work with. With two magazines and inexpensive not he ipe, my m&P has 3.5-5 times the ammunition of most 1911s.

An M&P, glock, or any other double stack 9mm is going to be more useful.

cz75 sp01

>>31837155
>>31837251

true, any of the 9mm glocks (except the G43) would be an excellent choice

>>31837100
I'd like to ask the same question except change pistol to rifle.

>>31837626
AR

>>31837649
but what is type of ammo that is most commonly available?

>>31837656

.223/5.56 for centerfire rifles is most common by far

Cz 82

Buy 2k rounds of ammo for 400 bucks and enjoy shooting your all steel, chrome lined, and polygonal rifled hand cannon

>>31837656
.223/5.56 is literally one of the most common calibers besides 9mm and fuddy five in america

>>31837100
Just for sheer volume of replacement parts, I'd say Glock.

>>31837703
How about the most commonly available that packs a little bit more punch?

>>31837726

.308/7.62x51 NATO

> implying some nigger tier handgun can take the place of a rifle

>>31837726
>muh stopping power meme

>>31837751
if its designed for the hunting of large dangerous animals, surely its better for stopping teams of badguys trying to attack in the wild and lawless anarchy after SHTF.

>>31837699
>>31837703
>>31837734

So I should look into these?:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.223_Remington
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5.56%C3%9745mm_NATO

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.308_Winchester
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7.62%C3%9751mm_NATO

>>31837791
When you're hunting large game, you want a round that can deliver a clean kill from a long distance. .223 is actually pretty capable, it's just illegal to hunt with a .22 caliber round in most states, hence why .243 has been getting popular. It's small, light, and has similar recoil to .223 while being big enough to skirt those laws.

When you're hunting bipedal game which will probably be shooting back, you want lots of rounds down range accurately. .223/5.56 is ideal for this and is a world standard military cartridge for a reason.

>>31837844
And gun chambered for 5.56 can shoot .223. A gun chambered for .223 can not safely shoot 5.56.

A gun chambered for .308 can shoot 7.62 NATO (7.62x51) just fine. A gun chambered for 7.62 NATO cannot safely shoot .308.

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>>31837734
Aw shit nigga. Thats my jam

>>31837100
Buy a glock, preferably a 19. The gen 4 has 3 15 round mags with it, then buy a 17 rounder or 2, a 33 rounder or 2 for the car/to throw in your backpack. That's what I carry and its fine. 16 rounds in the gun, 17 on my belt, and another 17-34 in the car or in my piece of shit eddy bauer back pack I take everywhere because
>lol yeah bro I have to take my lunch everywhere or else I go catabolic and you never know when you'll need a shaker cup
>lol bro you're such a faggot you're not even that big

I keep shit hidden in plain sight, fuck that "gray man" shit, just rock it.

>>31837862
So I should look into a rifle chambered for 5.56 or .308 or get two for both for maximum compatibility with whatever supplies are available after SHTF.

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>>31837920
step one

>>31837934
Tbh SENPAI, if you had another fal mag instead of 2 pistol mags, and used a bhp instead of a glock, that'd be maximum /comfy/

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>>31837934
Is there anything wrong with me if Id like a rifle that looks a little bit more like a good ole fashion traditional rifle instead?

>>31837976
have you ever fired a gun before, much less a .308?

>>31837976
With a missing bayonet lug?
Yes
rectify that.

Maybe add an Aimpoint for your BHD fantasies

>>31837951
Double decker tacos hold 1 rifle and 1 pistol mag per pouch. It is what is is. Of course they do make the X2RP

>>31837934
And not my pic, just saved it because of that sweet

>>31838003
>>31838014
not my pic. just something I saved from a previous thread.

>>31837988
Yes. Ive fired a .22lr rifle and a few different revolvers some .22, .32, .38

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>>31837100

>>31838058
>Yes. Ive fired a .22lr rifle and a few different revolvers some .22, .32, .38

Well, I'm not trying to mean or judge you, but large caliber rifles like that kick a lot and are generally unpleasant until you've had some experience with them. The ammo is heavy, and expensive. That guy carrying an FAL and 4 mags is pretty much at the limit for what a soldier would normally carry. With a 5.56 rifle you'd have 5 or 6 mags, with 30 rounds each while FAL mags only hold 20. If you want to be able to shoot and shoot longer, a 5.56 rifle would be better. They also have less felt recoil, especially ARs due to the buffer system.

Not that the M1A isn't a good rifle, but I wouldn't recommend it to a beginner.

What about AKs? That might be a good compromise. 7.62x39 is a .30 caliber round, it's just a little smaller. It's also very easy to find, and the AK variants available in the US are generally pretty high quality. Have you thought about them at all?

>>31838094
No, I appreciate the input. Thats what I was wondering, I noticed that shooting for example .45 handgun was a lot less accurate than a .22 revolver so Id need a lot of practice or something more manageable.
Is there something like a M1A but for .223/5.56?

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>>31838171
This is probably the closest, a Ruger Mini-14. They're kinda pricey ($700 or so I think, though the old model is cheaper). There's also Ruger Mini-30s which are the same rifle but chambered in 7.62x39.

I don't know much about them personally, only that the older models have thinner barrels which made them less accurate after sustained firing (the barrels get hot because they're so thin and this messes with the harmonics, causing them to lose accuracy. You just stop shooting for a few minutes so they cool down). The newer models have thicker barrels which prevents this from being as much of an issue.

Mags are a little more expensive than AR mags (maybe $20-30 per, insteal of $10-20 for AR mags).

You should be able to find them pretty easily since they aren't scary assault rifles that libs want to ban. Operating system is similar to the M1A/M1 Garand. Be careful and make sure it's chambered for 5.56, I think some are and some are chambered in .223. You can look most of this up online though.

>>31838223
Thanks. I guess I should hurry up and go to the gunshow and ask around for a ruger mini14 before the libtards get a chance to make it harder to get.
>since they aren't scary assault rifles that libs want to ban
this shows how literally retarded they are, its just a cosmetic change in appearance they are functionally identical.

>>31838223
>>31838298
The mini-30 DOES NOT hod a candle to a similarly priced AK. It's unreliable with cheap steel cased ammo(which is half the reason to shoot 7.62x39 to begin with) and larger magazines are expensive as fug.

I'd recommend something like this
http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/component/virtuemart/shipping-rifles/zastava-n-pap-underfolder-detail.html?Itemid=0

DO NOT buy anything from I.O. or and CAI in-house builds like the ras-47. Only buy foregn import AKs and you'll be fine

>>31837100
>What's the best semi-auto pistol to buy for ...Hillary chimp out against Russia?

I know /k/ is full of delusional cranks, but if this fantasy of a war with Russia even happened, WTF is a pistol gonna do for you?

>>31838372
If he likes the look of the M1A, perhaps he might be interested in an unconverted SAIGA? I can't find a good picture, but he could look that up too. Honestly I've never fired or held a Mini-14 or Mini-30, but it seemed like it might be up his alley.

If he likes the idea of an AK, he could also go the VEPR route. They come in a wide array of calibers, though I've heard mags are hard to find and expensive. VEPRs can be converted to use regular AK mags, right?

>>31838223
Why the fuck would you suggest a mini-14 over an AR or AK?

Fuck compliance you faggots.

>>31838372
The PSA AK is supposed to be good.

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>>31838432
>SAIGA
This turns up on image search is this what you are talking about?

>>31837237
Is that the ATOM slide or whatever it's called?

>>31838447
I told him to get an AR and he said he likes the look of the M1A. Then I suggestested the Mini-14.

He can get whatever he wants, it's up to him not me.

>>31838558
I said that I couldn't find one but in reality I didn't feel like downloading and posting it.

>>31838619
So would the ruger mini14 fit in with the original premise of something that reliable and it's parts,ammo,etc are commonly available, easy to find and fix etc, and would work well after a true shtf scenario where the everything is shut down so you cant order or ship stuff?

Anyone know how to build a surpressor

>>31838699
I'm not sure, I don't know much about Mini-14s. I would assume that they're pretty reliable and tough guns, but you might want to make a mini-14 thread to attract more people that own one. They're not uncommon, but they aren't mentioned much here.

>>31838699
It's a miniaturized Garand with a removable magazine. It *is* the American AK-47. It'll outlast you.

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>>31837100
>What's the best semi-auto pistol to buy for SHTF race war or Hillary chimp out against Russia?

You pretty much can't go wrong with a Glock 9mm but I'd add an AR rifle also.

A handgun is a great choice for in-the-house protection and you can conceal carry it but you should not be without a rifle.

>>31837448
>9x18
top laff

Glock 21 or 17 for simplicity, reliability, and ease of ammo scavenging.

Also fuck a pistol buy a .308/.30-06 bolt action fudd rifle. You can get a Tikka T3 cheaper than a Glock right now.

>>31838386

Shoot somebody and get a rifle. Then you have a rifle AND a sidearm