How does /k/ feel about derringers? >holds 1-4 .357 or similar

>>31830181
Better then nothing...

>>31830237
Yeah and its not like its meant to be something great anyway. You just never see any discussion on them.

>>31830181
>>will fit in your wallet
Get serious, fa-ghot

>>31830247
its just a bit of hyperbole please understand

>>31830181
Great for a self-defense pocket pistol that's cheap and easy to conceal. However, it leaves much to be desired if you find yourself in an actual gunfight. It's strictly a defense pistol, not a combat pistol.

You can call them Death Blossoms because they're the Weapon of Last Resort.

>>31830181
My dad has one.
Pieve of shit fires both spots with 1 pull.
nearly breaks ur hand cuz there isn't a good way 2 grip it.

>>31830181
>dirt cheap
Not really, once you get to the .357 calibers and above it begins to cost more than subcompact single stacks with less capacity, heavier and in many cases thicker. Just get an LCR and learn to shoot hot 9mm loads if you want something to strap to your leg

>>31830360
That being said they are cool and coolness is as valid a reason to get something as anything else.

>>31830181
Strap one to a spring-loaded wrist holster.

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It's me again, /k/

Posting my precious.

>>31830415
t. taxi driver

>>31830451
>that grip

no tactical advantage whatsoever

>>31830360
>the .357 calibers and above it begins to cost more than subcompact single stacks

That's because you are trying to shoot .357 and above. A 9mm Derringer only costs ~$150. Shoot all the hotloaded 9mm you want.

>>31830516
not really worth shooting 9mm if you only got two rounds of it. Could still kill someone sure but meh

>>31830451
is there any polymer on that?

>>31830523
The Derringer is strictly a self-defense pistol, not a combat pistol. You get what you pay for. if you want higher capacity or bigger rounds, you'll have to pay for it. The point remains, though, if you want a concealable new firearm, a Derringer is hard to beat.

>>31830524
No.

>>31830643
nice

>>31830579
Compared to a standard subcompact I'm not really seeing an advantage other than cost. Price for something like a backup pistol has a point if diminishing returns, yes but the function of a derringer is significantly lower for a couple of bucks saved. That being said you have convinced me to get a derringer for fun because 70 bucks for a used pistol I can put a stamped shell over and pretend it's a Liberator is actually really tempting

>>31830451
neat

>Has shit accuracy, liable to hit everyone except the baddie.
>half the time only one barrel will fire
>impossible to keep a grip of
The only thing they have going for them is they're small. But on that point I'd just carry a Colt .25.

>>31830666
>Compared to a standard subcompact I'm not really seeing an advantage other than cost.

That's exactly what I'm saying: The advantage is the cost. A decent new 9mm subcompact will cost 2-3x as much a new 9mm Derringer, but the subcompact is better. A difference of $200+ is quite steep for a lot of people and if you are in need of a firearm, it's better to have the one that you can afford than to not have the one that you can't.

>>31830816
I assumed we were talking about a back up gun, for 100 bucks more get an Armscor .38 snub or a varity of other guns then, trusting your life on a 2 shot derringer is retarded. Even a fucking Hi Point would be better.

>>31830666
Devil trips noted

Good derringers cost as much as if not more than a snubnose or P3AT/LCP/etc, while also not saving hardly anything in terms of size.

They're a novelty, nothing more.

>>31830480
BB pls, it's textured, contoured for a better grip, a better striking surface and better balance.

>>31830279
cut my barrels into pieces, this is my last resort

They're mostly a novelty but I suppose if you can't handle a slide and hate revolvers it's a better choice than a Zip.

>>31830480
You're pretty good

>>31830353
wow full auto derringer i hope you dont have any dogs

>>31830353
Is that considered a machine gun?

>>31830666
Even cost is not in the derringers favor, at least not for adecent bond arms one

>>31830260
Its really all you need in terms of scaring off a mugger or attacker.
This isn't the wild west you won't be getting in a gun fight.

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>>31830181
There was a similar thread about this not too long ago. Some guy suggested a 9mm 4-shot derringer.
Apart from the anemic ammo (Anemic as in anemic for derringer ammo. 9mm is good, but why use fucking 9mm in a derringer when you have so many other options?) the idea was pretty decent. Only thing is, 1-4 shots might not always be enough during hasty mugging situations.
So I thought up these beby (pic related)
Essentially two derringers taped/railed/bubba'd together.
Bonus points if you get four derringers, tape them into pairs and then dual(or technically quad)-wield them.

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>>31830480
WHAT A THRILL

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I'd only get one to do this to it
>tfw a dindu gets plugged by a pink double shot pistol based on one wielded by a Japanese demon stripper

>>31831984

Yes, you will never be attacked with a gun and you might as well not carry one.

>>31830353
literally, that's a machinegun
fire more than one bullet per trigger pull

>>31831984
Niggers roam in packs

>>31832354
Yeah i definitely said all that

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Pays to be careful

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>>31830353
>Thrust per squeeze

>>31831621
>>31831661
>>31832382
Volley guns aren't machine guns, even the ATF agrees

>>31833559
Thank god there's at least 1 non-retard in this thread.

>>31831984
Mass shootings totally never happen anyway

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>>31833765
What that anon means is there's probably not going to be a protracted firefight; in most cases that's probably so.

>>31833765
Id love to know where you live where mass shootings are so common that you need to carry anything more powerful than a basic pistol at your side.

>>31830451
Why do the 340s have those dots on the frame? How much did you end up paying for yours? Do you shoot .357 out of it?

>>31830181
a complete novelty item. I rarely think a gun is simply outdated but the derringer always comes to mind first. Some arent that comfortable to shoot and I think its ridiculous for them to be the same price as a modern duty pistol. At with something like a 1911 or SAA reovler it still has other uses. Derringers are just there for toys. Thats being said they can be incredibly fun if you get the right kind

>>31833843
I never understood this antigun mentality
>shootings don't happen often, so that means they never will, thus, you don't need a gun!

>>31834441
>anything more powerful than a basic pistol at your side.
>you don't need a gun!

see why you failed reading comprehension?

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This is the best derringer.

>>31834504
RIP wrists

Just making a list of incredibly small guns, mouse guns, pocket pistols, or derringer/derringer-like ones.

Bond Arms
>derringer
>two shots
>interchangeable barrels/calibers
~ $400/500 new

North American Arms
>mini revolver
>5 shots
>22 mag
~ $100-300 new

DoubleTap Defense
>pocket pistol
>2 shots
>9mm or 45acp
~ $200/300 new

Cop 357 derringer
>derringer
>4 shots
> 38 or 357
~ $600-1k+

Taurus Curve
>pocket pistol
>laser/light
>6+1 shots
>380acp
~ $200/300 new

Beretta Pico
>pocket pistol
>6 shots
>380acp
~ $300/400 new

(For fun) Kolibri
>smallest (usable?) gun
>6+1 shots
>2.7mm

Then of course you have guns like

Seecamp
Kahr
>Etc.

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I fucking love the stupid little CVA philadelphia derringers because they're really fun to shoot—there's nothing quite like having a mini hand cannon—but I'd never EDC it or anything. I want more of these, but they're getting hard to find.

>>31834441
I see reading comp wasn't your forte in school

>>31834484
>>31836147
it's the same "but you don't NEED" mentality. if the man wants to carry a brace of derringers alongside his typical carry, then I say all power to him.

>>31835127
You forgot the ruger lcp. $200-$250 depending on model, brand new lcp2 maybe what $300? Easily the smallest in the subconpact class except for the seecamp. Very reliable. I'd take one any day over a shitty ass pico, curve, or any gimmicky derringer

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>>31830181
I want one

>>31830666
>Compared to a standard subcompact I'm not really seeing an advantage other than cost
We can't all run around with a get away car in our pockets, Mister Got Rocks.

>>31833482
He's a Big Jake

>>31830181

If you want a compact weapon for serious self-defense, then there are a plethora of other options that are just as convenient and concealable than the derringer.

>>31830451
thats not your precious thats my precious
i.e. my picture i took of my gun you gun(image)grabber

>>31833847
the dots are pins driven through the frame to support internal components like the hammer, and yes
>>31838947
im this anon and thats my gun and i shoot 357 all the time. its radical recoil but wicked fun, and 38 specials are very mild, shoot them all day

>>31830181
I shot a .30 carbine one once.
was loud
I want it

>>31830181
I like how "last resort" it feels and looks. Like something you'd pull out as a final fuck you.

Pretty useless compared to other stuff though. Especially in a logical situation.

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>>31833765
>Mass shootings totally never happen anyway

Wait...what?

Are you saying you need more than a derringer because mass shootings have 3 or more active shooters or that derringers aren't good for when you do your mass shootings of people?

I think they are neat. I'd like one.

I think the bond arms one comes with different barrels and such, so you can fire different calibers.

I've shot the Bond Arms .357. Its heavy. The trigger is heavier. The sights are rudimentary. The barrels are not regulated to the same point of aim.
Waste of money.

>>31830365
True. This is /k/. I want it is the only genuine reason to own one. That said its like the Deagle. Try before you buy and you will not buy.

>>31830279
Last Starfighter reference. How old are you?

Back in th 80s Massad Ayoob referred to a case where a couple of kidnappers tried to snatch the heir to a family fortune. He killed both with a single contact shot from his High Standard .22 magnum derringer.
What worked in his favour was contact distance, surprise, they were not trying to kill him and he had a decent gun.

>>31835335
>nigger tries to rob anon
>anon pulls out a fucking flintlock and kills him

>>31843473
shit sorry my bad it's a percussion didn't look closer

>>31843483
Common mistake. I certainly wouldn't be opposed to converting it to a flintlock since I'm in love with black powder stuff though.

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I actually want one but i want it in 38 special. Only brand that i can find that makes them is cobra and theyre apparently shit, what do?

>>31843958
.357 mag can take .38 special.

>>31843958
they dont make those very often either

>>31844069
meant for
>>31844029

>>31830181
Id say id carry one if im out running where weight really matters. Better a weak gun you carry than a better one you dont.
Or perhaps if youre out hiking and your biggest concern is a rattler.

That being said a snubbie is only marginally heavier.

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>>31835127
>Seecamp

two shots of 22mag versus seven shots of 380

>>31830181
It's a good backup and good for when you just can't arsed to take your carry gun with you.

I feel like semi-auto pocket pistols fill that niche better though.

>>31834504
can you imagine venting a nignog with this?

>>31833843
I have friends that live/lived in Columbine, Aurora, Lafayette and Atlanta. I've seen people pull guns on each other and I saw a man get stabbed before I was 12.

You AGAINST the odds when it comes to defending yourself

>>31830480
It doesn't stick to clothing on the draw

>>31830480
Less weight.

>>31832022
does that pistol come in .357?

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>>31830181
>.357 or similar rounds
No, that's fucking stupid. The purpose of derringers is to be as small as possible. Why do stoppingpowerfags have to ruin fucking everything? A proper modern derringer would be chambered in .25 ACP or another smaller caliber and wouldn't be Rehash of the Remington Model 95 #458. The Remington Model 95 was not the only derringer ever made.

>>31845610
At that size you can get or make a blowback in a .25, I frankly don't see a problem with small caliber guns going away when polymer became a thing.

>>31846623
>At that size you can get or make a blowback in a .25
No, you can't. There were plenty of older derringers that managed to be smaller than the Baby Browning and Colt Vest Pocket (the one in the picture I posted has a 3" barrel that you can estimate how small the rest of it is from). Also, without having to worry about a magazine you could get more creative with the grip. To me, a good modern derringer would be a 2 barrel .25 ACP pistol that folds like the Stinger pen guns for maximum concealability with ~2" barrels and probably around .5"x.75"x4" when folded.

> I frankly don't see a problem with small caliber guns going away when polymer became a thing.
There's more to extremely concealable guns than just weight.

>>31830181
Anything with a slow burning powder in a derringer is a good way to accidentally an-hero. If you want .357 as a backup carry a revolver. If you intend to carry a derringer as your primary means of defense you would be better off carrying Sabre RED.

As a novelty they're cool but I have confidence in myself to be able to hurt you before you do me with a derringer even barehanded. Let alone if I see a big stick you're in for an ass-whooping.

>>31841048
>Last Starfighter reference. How old are you?
Not him, but probably every sci-fi nerd who was a kid between 1980 and 1999 watched it. I watched it as a Blockbuster rental in the late 90s, and it was on TV a few times.

>>31830353
Don't worry, we sold it to a shop a longgg time ago.
We didn't feel like fixing it as it held no value to us.

>>31846853
How small is really useful? Is there a point in having an ankle gun that is that small, do you wear a vest regularly so it'll be available and oriented right? Do you think you can take it out, figure out which end is which, cock and fire in the dark on the ground? Will it have any better functionality than a pocket autoloader? Was the slight advantage of concealability worth it?

>>31830181
My dad had one when he and my mother owned a business.

When I was an infant, my mom was holding me and the derringer went off in a suitcase that was being set down, nearly missing both my own and my mother's head.

Fuck derringers.

>>31847473
>How small is really useful?
So long as it at least has sites on it and a grip that won't slip out of your hand I'd say it would be useful.

>Is there a point in having an ankle gun that is that small
Other than the ability to conceal it in a speedo or in other places on your body where it could be quicker to grab than a traditional draw?

> do you wear a vest regularly so it'll be available and oriented right
You carry guns in a holster anon.

>Do you think you can take it out, figure out which end is which
The shooty end is pointing at the bottom of the holster.

>Do you think you can take it out, figure out which end is which, cock and fire in the dark on the ground?
Draw the gun, know where your hand if due to how the grip feels, fold the gun with your thumb, then fire. It's really no more complex than turning off a safety.

>>31847697
And this is more useful than an auto or revolvor because...

If you have a holster get a gun with more use than nostalgia. If you have fantasies of being held hostage and needing a super deep cover pistol to shoot your way out more power to you but it's stupid and not as practical or functional as a subcompact or mini revolver of you like small rounds that much.

>>31847697
confirmed for baby hands and tiny pecker.

They don't make holsters small enough to strap to YOUR dick.

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>>31847758
>And this is more useful than an auto or revolvor because
I literally said it in my previous post you dipshit, extreme concealability:
>the ability to conceal it in a speedo

>nostalgia
If you didn't notice, I specifically said a new design and not a rehash of a 100+ year old design.

>mini revolver
Given that any of those smaller than common .380 pistols lack a rear sight, they are impractical.

>>31847884
I will never tell someone they cannot have something but why would you need that level of concealability? What situation would require being able to hide a gun in a spandex suit? And I'm referring to the antiquated idea of using small calibers meant to harass and dissuade attackers.

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>>31847995
>And I'm referring to the antiquated idea of using small calibers meant to harass and dissuade attackers
Stoppingpowerfag pls. .25 ACP ball will penetrate 14"-15" into ballistics gelatin from a 2" barrel and will have no problem stopping someone with good shot placement.

>>31848091
A lot of things can kill with good shot placement , but it's pointless and stupid to rely on two shots of .25 because you want to test your skills like some fucking mall ninja. For a backup gun sure, it's only going to be used when shit has hit the fan but if the goal is to have something small enough to urethra carry that is ignoring the circumstances of most defensive situations regarding use of deadly force

>>31830181

>Cheap

For the same price you could get a 5 round .38 revolver or a cheap single stack 9mm. Either would be far better as an actual weapon.

How do the triggers on a derringer like >>31845610
feel? I always thought they would feel awful for some reason.

>>31831621
Underrated post

>>31830724
I had a .25 once
I would be extremely lucky to get two shots out before a jam

>>31834504
I JUST CAME