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I am a reformed citizen in the state of nj and cannot own a firearm.

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I am a reformed citizen in the state of nj and cannot own a firearm.

Lately there have been a string of violent home invaders in my area.

What are some methods of self defense in my home that won't land me in jail?
I cannot legally own a firearm.
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Black powder prison bitch. Only thing covered by the 2nd A. Make a hand cranked sticker gun and laugh at the eange.
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>>31733864
flamethrower
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crossbow
spear

pretend you're hunting
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>>31733875
Do you mean like precussion cap revolvers?
>>31733953
Huh. Interesting. But I don't want to burn down my house.
>>31733957
Crossbow? In nj?
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>>31733864

Well, the easiest answer is to go back in time and don't commit a felony.

With that said, I suggest that you talk to a local lawyer. He'll know the laws in your area and the last thing you want is to run afoul of the law again.
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>>31733989
naw mate they are perfect for self defense
xm42 its like 1200$
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>>31733864
Unironically, a lemat.
Better yet two
Even better yet, six of them on a dragoon breastplate
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Modern production black powder revolver.
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>>31733864
I would rather take 10 years in prison than a lifetime in a grave.

Order a cap and ball online.
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What animal did you fuck?
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>>31734040
>>31733989
>>31733875
Black powder/flintlock/precussion handguns require a permit in nj to purchase. But what about to own?
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>>31733864
A spear
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>>31734080
Fight for your rights or border hop. They're cash and carry unless someone changed it.
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>>31734074
Your mother. The got me for livestock cruelty....
but I think she liked it.
>>31734113
Yeah I can get one. But I don't want to go to jail after I kill Leroy, Dale, and Jose
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>>31734136
Since you seem to live in a fairly urban area, i'd say dog.
Or you're the anon that got a cat stuck on his dick.
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>>31734040
Source on these super magnum tiddays?
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>>31733864
>literal subhuman trash thinks he has the right to defend himself

I hope a nigger fucks your whole family to death, criminal.
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>>31734185
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You could always get a sword. Skallgrim made a glowing review of the cobra steel kindjal. A short concealable high carbon good for stabbing sword for fifty bucks is a good deal. Besides im pretty sure swords are more psychologically scary than guns.

Tazers are good too.

>dont get a flintlock anon
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>>31734162
Honeslty... I was thinking a dachshund. Don't laugh. They're small, yappy, and hard to see in the dark. They're tenacious as fuck and I've seen one leap and grabbed a six foot man by the hand.

More than likely he'll give me all the heads up I need.
>>31734185
I do the family fucking, anon.
>>31734208
Yeah I was thinking mace firstn then chop em. Why do you say no to flint lock?
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>>31734220
Thats one of least sexiest dogs in existence.
Good thing you didnt do it then.
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>>31734234
No they're adorable. I love them.
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>>31734250
I know it sounds like I'm trolling but I am seriously appreciating the ideas. Thanks guys.
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>>31734136
Well then don't kill them. Arrange for the police to get them as you being a model upstanding citizen
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Flare gun and insert. Hop the border to get ammo. Shall not be infringed.
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>>31734310
What I mean is, I know I can purchase them with ease, but it would be illegal for me to own one in nj with no permit.

I don't want the cops to come to my house only to find I own an illegal percussion cap revolver
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>>31734399
You should ask an officer then. Can't say much else. Here you could own blackpowder crank or even an auto system using hopper fed materials to make a pseudocase/caseless round.


Actually why can't I make caseless blackpowder round and ise that
Whelp I got a phonecall tomorrow.
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>>31734444
Hey you just made me think of something. I have a paint ball gun, I wonder if I can shoot marbles to incapacitate or something..
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>>31734468
Air guns would likely be policed.

I know of no place with rules on EM launchers. Build yourself a guass pistol and shout science bitches as you become the punished punisher, savager of kneecaps.
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>>31733864
You can own a black powder gun, alternatively you can petition the governor to have your criminal record expunged thus getting your rights restored.
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>>31734250
They're so silly, seeing one running around with those stubby legs always brighten my day.
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>>31734500
Any ballpark idea on cost.
>>31734500
And again, I have to disagree. In nj you cannot own a BB gun without a fire arms id card.
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>>31733864
>reformed citizen
what did he mean by this

is this a polite term for felons or something
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>>31734659
It means I did something illegal, paid my dues, and am trying to move on with my life. I live a quiet life of solitude and want nothing more than to pay my bills, drink my beer, and sleep a little bit more soundly.
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>>31734687
Hey anon
If you want to share, what were you convicted of?
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>>31734500
black powder guns do need a FOID. I remember an elderly gentlemen was transporting a centuries old black powder pistol. He was pulled over, his car searched, and they wanted to jail him. Thankfully the judge threw out the case.
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What about just a bat?

Or maybe a really powerful slingshot with lead balls or something? If that shit can kill rabbits, it will probably at least mess up a human
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>>31734724
The rest or the United States isn't Illinois
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You can order a cap and ball revolver and have it shipped to your house.

https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/2084_803_1784/products_id/713073672/Traditions+FR18582+1858+Army+Revolver+44cal+8%22
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>>31734553
>In nj you cannot own a BB gun without a fire arms id card.
I think you do need one if you are going to use a black powder pistol, not a rifle. So... maybe look into some flintlocks or some other muzzleloaders?
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Get a knife, practice kali. Shouldn't of fucked yourself.
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>>31734701
Prohibited weapons and devices, unlawful possession of weapons,
Possession of a weapon for unlawful purposes, kowingly causing bodily harm, criminal mischief, obstructing a law officer, resisting arrest, disorderly conduct, and eluding authorities.

Not my finest hour.
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>>31734761
A bat is probably one of my last choices. You need room to swing, or its useless, if they're hopped up its useless, if you don't make a clean hit its useless.

Honestly a golf club is probably a better choice. Less surface area.

>sling shot

Illegal in nj. I shit you not.
>>31734813
Still. Not. Legal.
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>>31734687
>is this a polite term for felons or something
I'll take that long-winded attempt at a plea for sympathy as a 'yes'

just asking because there's already a felon thread here, could be a source of info though he's in tx
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>>31735123
Felon is federal level, son.

Link?
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>>31735161
Oh wait. No its not. I'm wrong. Yes then, I'm a felon.
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>>31733864
Here you go Felanon.
http://www.budk.com/Middle-Ages-Historica-Spiked-Battle-Club-922
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>>31735177

>>31705329
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>>31733864
North or South Jersey?
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>>31733989
You should be able to buy a crossbow over the counter and if for some godforsaken reason you can't take the fucking train to a different state. I'm pretty sure you can get on board with a disassembled crossbow in a box.

What did you do by the way? I'm a prison cop. Those are the kind of pepper sprays we carry. MK9.
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>>31736062
Does it matter?
>>31736105
See
>>31734953
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>>31733864
You could make a high impulse laser. You could make one in the megawatts surprisingly easily. You don't even need to hit the guy, he'll be blinded unless he has a welding mask.
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>>31733875
>Only thing covered by the 2nd A

SHALL
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>>31733864
Get a butcher knife and go ham on a motherfucker if he comes in your house. Way worse than getting shot.
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Just get a pit. And a baseball bat.
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>>31734953
Damn. You don't seem that niggerish to me. Rough night week?
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>>31733864
Bear mace, literally no better option.
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>>31736795
Why do people always suggest bear spray. It's actually less powerful than normal pepper spray.
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>>31736252
pls no cut ear
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>>31734205
..His efficacy unwittnessed by his own eyes
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>>31736155
That sounds like a fun project. Any how to's online before I go googling around?
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>>31734839
This
Machete
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>>31736944
I'd pet the fuck outta that pup.
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>>31734769
no, but NJ is
NJ and IL both have FOIDs
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>>31734953
so, what did you actually do?
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>>31733864
>>31734185
^ Don't let this fuck talk you down. If you have done the time, and have bettered yourself, move on.

Call an attorney. As long as your charge wasn't violent or drug related, a lot of times you can get your record sealed, and legally own firearms. But, NJ is one of the worst states for funs.

I know several people that have convictions, yet, own firearms. There are tons of ways to get them. Besides, the cops can't search your home without a warrant anyway. If you keep your nose clean, and don't go out in public with the thing, you should be fine regardless. I know several people that did dumb shit when they were younger, and they probably own the most guns out of anyone I know.
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>>31733864
a taser so you can run away and call 911.
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>>31737345
machetes suck, any chopping-based weapon will suck. Hallways don't allow much room to swing. You need something pointy. You'd probably have a better chance at incapacitating an enemy with something long and pointy than you would with something sharp and heavy. Get a European tuck and poke holes in the mother fucker.
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>>31734953
Sounds like banter, more specifics?
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>>31740436
Cutlass worked for the apartment but does require arm strength
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>>31733864
Unless they have a gun, which your fucked anyway, they'll never make it down the hallway or across the room if you wield this. It's a common yard clearing tool, a bush axe.
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>>31737615
Beat someone's ass, ran from the cops, failed to ditch weaponry.
>>31737779
I'll. Have to look into expungments, thank you.
>>31737868
>tazers
Also illegal in nj.
>>31740700
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I, too, am not allowed guns. I keep a baseball bat by my bed and some hefty soup cans to throw. I wish I could have a gun so I could shoot myself.
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>>31742573
Jesus that sucks. Could go for the classic, buy a wiffle ball bat, a length of rebar relatively close in length and quick-Crete. They'll laugh just til you bust the shit out of their jaw.

Also dachshunds are k as fuck dogs.
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www.pyramydair.com/s/m/Dragon_Claw_Air_Rifle/2499/4994

50 cal airgun
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Try to get your rights back?

t. reformed citizen with restored rights
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>>31734040
i want to suck that belly button into outtie form
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>>31736174
NOT
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>>31734080
Black Powder pistols (including percussion revolvers) are not even considered firearms by the U.S. government, due to their antiquated design. You should be able to own one no problem. I didnt even have to buy mine at the gun counter. The guy told me it was just like buying a t shirt. Worth a shot. If you get one, go with the .44, not the .36
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>>31733864
I am not fucking joking. Fully auto BB gun. Imagine a fucker charges you. at 20 feet it stings and breaks skin, as they close in on you they are turning into hamburger.

observe:
https://youtu.be/eh1MKQm9z2U

Sure, its not compact, and its like you are attacking someone with a fire extinguisher, but guess what? Fuck it. Now they are dead by your silly ass gun.
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>>31733864
Compound bow. If you can't get a crossbow this is the next best thing.
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>>31733864
Stop right there criminal scum
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OP can you not just move to a free state? If the answer is no due to legal reasons, have your lawyer change your probation location to whatever state/county you plan on living in outside of the commie containment zone.

If you're stuck there due to probation, even bear mace or a baseball bat could land you back in prison for parole violation. He said she said about you confronting a burglar with a machete is going to turn into he said she said and she violated probation stop right there criminal scum even though you'd most likely be in the right if you didn't rob those little old ladies back before "reforming"
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>>31744007
INFRINGE YOU FUCKING PROGRESSIVE KEKS
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>>31742573
Did he deserve it?
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>>31743780
Will land me in jail.
>>31743926
I'm researching it, though I'm not hopeful. It looks like it's ultimately up to the judge and I pissed the cops off pretty bad. But ill start saving and give it a go.
>>31743957
Belly buttons gross me out.
>>31744672
By federal laws, you're absolutely right. But I'm in jersey. A potato gun is illegal. A pump BB gun is illegal. A slingshot is illegal.

Antique firearms are most definitely illegal for me.
>>31744974
Illegal.
>>31744996
That's an interesting idea
>>31745185
I'd like to move to montana. Or maybe north Dakota and work on an oil rig. Start all over and stay busy. That's my dream.

And thanks for the advice, however I am not on parole. I was done with all that several years ago.
>>31745287
I should've killed him. I forgot that I had a weapon on me in the rush of adrenaline. Probably a good thing all said and done. I wouldve been charged with assault with a deadly weapon and possibly attempted murder. They wanted grievous bodily harm, but I was able to plead down. Good lawyer and 1st offense and all that.
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>>31733864
Do the same methods Kevin did.
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>>31745558
I recommend against north Dakota. Entirely different world up there man and the oil boom is down a bit. Montana isn't a bad idea. Texas also has a few options for easy labor.
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>>31745558
Like previously said, some states give your rights back. That is enough of a tip for you to start doing your work.

But if it turns out New Jersey never restores your rights back then carry a gun illegally.
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>>31745558
What weapon did you have?
It better not have been chambered in .40
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>>31745831
I thought I was a hard-ass 19 year old.
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>>31745926
Plz no bully
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>>31733864
Go get your FPID and buy a fucking gun. Or move to PA, your call.
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>>31745926
Goddamn OP
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