Why don't the Russians just buy the J-20 ? >Better

>>31708044
>buy

with what ?

vodka bottle caps ?

>>31708044
pretty sure PAK is better than the chink copy of a F 35

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They've could had this perfection

>>31708044
China would not sell it to Russians.

>>31708044
I actually would really like to see them buying some and then make a downright own ripoff from it, to piss off the chinese for what they had done in the past.

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>>31708062
"""the chink copy of a F 35 """, is complete unlike the Pak-fail,my dear Vlad.

And there are plans on making a bomber version.

>>31708044
Because they're not actually interested in fielding it in large numbers and the PAK-FA is mostly for development of technology.
They have more important things to field before they field a 5th gen fighter.

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>>31708083
Russians sold them almost all flankers line, and other stuff.
Why wouldn't they if they asked.

>>31708044
Because everything China makes is pathetic.

>>31708123
Because the Chinese are assholes, that's why.

Why force a mene, better buy chinese one!
>Better lulz
>already mass produced
>everything works
>smokeless butthurt

>>31708398

>Yeah, I'm a fucking "chink" who knows that white people, especially Americans, would love nothing more than to genocide my people.

....wew laddy. Why the hell would i want to genocide the worlds factory?

>>31708044

Because the J-20 is not that great, from what we know.

>still uses interim engines
>only 4 internal pylons
>no known external pylons at all
>due to the lack of HMD, the "sino EODAS" is more likely a IRST+IR MAW.
>nothing is really known about avionics, radar, ewar, RWR...anything "soft" that cant be seen.

Its a complete unknown right now, and some stated stuff does not jive with what we know (the HMD/EODAS issue)

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>>31708100
so basically fb-22? chinese obviously learned from the greatest disaster in the history of military aviation and went with 2 dedicated jets rather than one turd of all trades

>>31708044

>Canards
>Stealth
Burger posting, vatnik posting, leaf posting, bong posting, reichposting, and 'roo posting is one thing, but Chink posting is on a whole other level of retarded.

>>31708465
>F-35
>Greatest disaster in military aviation

Are you retarded?

>>31708123
Chinese aren't desperate for cash

>>31708452
Wow it's almost like the J-20 is not finished yet?

Those stupid chinks! In only 5 years they haven't been able to go from first flight to Full Rate Production! How pathetic!

>>31708484
Good job outing yourself as ignorant

>>31708452
>no known external pylons
External pylons have nothing to do on stealth aircrafts.

I'm just sitting here wishing the amid 1.44 actually went somewhere....

>>31708577
*MiG 1.44. Fuck you, Android.

>>31708561
>not finished yet?
>Full Rate Production!
This looks as dumb as you sound.

Especially when you consider the deficiencies that would require airframe mods to repair.

>>31708561
>Wow it's almost like the J-20 is not finished yet?

Well it is, its in LRIP. Its effectively finished.

> In only 5 years they haven't been able to go from first flight to Full Rate Production!

around 6, actually, and they are not at FRP, and thats pretty much what the F-22 and F-35 did.

>>31708573

>External pylons have nothing to do on stealth aircrafts.

False, they are nothing but a capability enhancement. You can choose to be stealthy and have a low payload, or not and have a high payload, based on mission needs.

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>>31708452
>still uses interim engines
Engines are not easy, while they are working on the WS-15,They already have the WS-10 which are at least better than Russian ones.

>only 4 internal pylons
Only 4 huge fucking pylons

>no known external pylons at all
Pic related, 4 external drop tanks (leaked images)

>due to the lack of HMD, the "sino EODAS" is more likely a IRST+IR MAW.
" is more likely ", so you're just implying

>nothing is really known about avionics, radar, ewar, RWR...anything "soft" that cant be seen.

Use Internet, mang.

>>31708484
>Canards not stealth meme

How fucking retarded are you?

>>31708630

Yes, the chinese interm engines are better than the Russians, but they are still interm.

>Only 4 huge fucking pylons

Four is four anon. Its not a good thing at all.

>Pic related, 4 external drop tanks (leaked images)

Interesting, i only see two, but i dont see the pylons, or where the stations are on the primered LRIP birds. Also "leaked" is not the correct term, being that its censored (inb4 self censoring meme).

>so you're just implying

Yes, thats what it implies, along with the product card of the DAS passing off IR as EO and not showing 360 degree real time video capability.

>Use Internet, mang.

I do. For example, the range of the Chinese naval AESA radars is not known either. They dont release shit.

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>all posts shitting on China disappear mysteriously

Not suspicious at all eh Mr. Chink janitor?

>>31708815

It is off topic, so it might just be a new mod.

However, if it sticks to JUST anti Chinese posts, THEN its suspicious.

For example, if an anti chinese post goes but an "LEL AMERIFAT )))))))))" does not, then we have a problem.

>>31708062
W-what?
The PAK is the Slav copy of the F-22.

>>31708815
To be fair they did delet that one poster who constantly complains about how all Americans secretly want to throw him into an internment camp because of a few assholes on a Mongolian throat singing enthusiast forum.

>>31708924
It's not just off-topic, it derails the thread from "/k/ military shitposting" into "/b/ garbage shitposting".

>>31708988

Well yeah, but it works both ways, and as long as it is employed against both sides shitposters, all is kosher.

>>31709001
This. Fatniks vatniks and chicoms all need to learn to handle the bantz. From what I've seen bantz happens everyone gets butthurt then all caps's about how the other side is butthurt.

Russia is too poor.

>>31709015
>fatniks
Sorry, I remember this triggers European pro US posters for being discluded. So I guess "Patriotic Armed Supporters of American Armed Forces"
PASAAF xd

why the fuck does the US get butt mad about Russia when China actaully has real economy,are building actually competent weapons, and are aggressively expanding their territory as well

>>31708062

Against it most likely is , and the pak-fa will most likely be capable of taking down the f-35,if not at the release then after a few "fixes".

This is why i hate shitty eastern propaganda. The f-35 is not an air superiority aircraft. The russians are literally bragging that their new sports car is faster than the america's new off-road vehicle. It's an idiotic comparison .

>>31709078
Chinese expansion threatens a bunch of Asian countries no one cares about

Russian expansion threatens europe

>>31709078
>why the fuck does the US get butt mad

Well lets see.

>Russia when China actaully has real economy

Nope, not that.

>,are building actually competent weapons

Nope, not that either. They, for the most part, always did that.

> and are aggressively expanding their territory as well

There you go, nailed it.

>>31708385
I don't know why I laughed so hard at this.

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>>31708062

>Chink copy of the F-35
Americans keep thinking they literally invented everything ever.
Search for MiG-1.44, you'll see what the J-20 is based upon.
It's not just the usual bullshit with the F-22/PAK-FA "They look similar, the PAK-FA is a copy".
Chinese engineers actually used research material from the 1.44 project, and refined the design.

>>31708702
>inb4 self censoring meme).

Does meme = facts I dislike now?

>>31708594
I specifically said it's not finished.
>reading comprehension

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>>31709288
>Search for MiG-1.44, you'll see what the J-20 is based upon.

What a fucking retard, the J-20 is based on the Lost project J-9,That existed 25 years before the Mig 1.44.

STOP THIS MEME

>>31709288
>this entire unsourced post
"No"

>>31709836
>Does meme = facts I dislike now?

It logically does not make sense.

Even the supporters of the "le patriotic people of glorious china!" admit its due to forum rules (moderated by the Chinese internet police), and thus its still not patriotism, but self preservation.

The above seems like damage control to me.

>>31709843
>stop this meme
>Not knowing about J-10

J-9 is an abandoned prototype, which was used for the development of the J-10. J-20 has literally nothing to do with it.

>>31709843
>J-9

Uhh anon, the J-9 was the predecessor to the Mig-21, and was a single engine interceptor. It has nothing in common to the J-20.

>>31709894
>>31709895
I don't remember the right name, but it was another prototype of the J-9 with two engines.

The most important, it's a Chinese design, Period.

>>31709964
>The most important, it's a Chinese design, Period.

I dont know, mig 1.44 and the J-20 seem to resemble each other a metric fuckton.

What makes people think that the J-20 will be better than the PAK-FA? I seriously doubt it. All it has it a stealthier shape. The PAK-FA will be better in every other way probably. Who honestly thinks that the Chinese spent decades making subpar knockoffs of Russian designs and then suddenly jumped way ahead? No. Just no.

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>>31708044
>>31708077
This new Splinter Camo is absolutely sexy.

Kinda like the Su-35 or the Ukrainian Su-27s

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Ayy

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>>31711119
Lmao

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>>31711152
LRIP for these guys as well mang.

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>>31711166
ELINT and EW for the PLA Navy would be their mission.

>>31708044
Russia has moved past coal-powered vehicles for a while now.

>>31708044
You forgot S-ducts friendo

>>31709078
because the chinese are cucks just like americucks and therefore can be reasoned with (common ground and all)

russians are just batshit