Hope you guys are panic buying the shit out of everything. Hillary

already bought three ARs this past month pham

>>31661320
You're gonna get banned. I did last time o posted about politics

>>31661320
Clarification: she wants to close the gun show loophole and implement waiting periods, as far as I know.

Please correct me if I'm wrong and cite sources if she actually wants to take away our funs, because I legitimately would like to know so I can prepare for 2A SHTF

>>31661320
>AZ going blue this election

Thanks a lot fucking spic and califaggots.

Already prepping the helium tank. Expect Calishit laws nationwide within 10 years.

>Nate silver

>unironically believing democrats polling liberal students at leftist universities
>unironically believing news stations that have been proven to collude with the clinton campaign
>unironically believing news stations caught with hot mics rigging focus groups

>Ignore LA times as an outlier
>same system properly projected 2012

>Ignore rally attendance and claim it does not matter
>same system properly predicted 2012

>ignore all the massive over representation of democrats and larger under representation of independents

>ignore said skewed polls in hillarys favor ALSO using 2012 demographic estimations

>ignore the dems massive drop in primary turnout with bernie still running

>ignore massive spikes and record votes in republican primaries


>S-she is gonna do it guys!
>Everybody in her pocket or with a vested interest in her winning says so!

>>31661362
Fucking libshit idiot.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/06/13/clinton-calls-for-a-new-assault-weapons-ban-12-years-after-the-last-one-expired/

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-05-20/hillary-clinton-believes-pivotal-gun-rights-ruling-was-wrong-adviser-says

>>31661370
>a-all the polls are wrong

enjoy eight years of the second amendment getting fucked in the ass idiot.

>>31661362
She has publicly stated that she thinks the heller decision is wrong

She does not agree with the individual right to keep and bear arms.

The gun show loophole does not exist and waiting periods are retarded

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-05-20/hillary-clinton-believes-pivotal-gun-rights-ruling-was-wrong-adviser-says

http://freebeacon.com/politics/leaked-audio-clinton-says-supreme-court-is-wrong-on-second-amendment/

Do I need to link something regarding her stance on AWBs?

>>31661409
>>31661409
>>a-all the polls are wrong

Just the ones polling with tiny samples and massively overrepresenting democrats and almost ignoring independents.

Or the ones wikileaks has proven hillary bought

But yea, I'm gonna believe the corrupt establishment and MSM is telling me the truth.

>>31661410
No i read the other guy's articles in this thread. Yeah the AWB would be awful, I was just going off what I remember her saying in the debate that she would like to close the gun show loophole and implement waiting periods on firearms, which I think is somewhat reasonable. But I guess the facts show she intends to do more, which fucking sucks

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>>31661370
Bruh

>>31661467
>which I think is somewhat reasonable.
Fuck you

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>>31661367
>>31661320
>>31661409
>actually believing this horseshit map
Christ, I hope my fellow gun enthusiasts aren't legitimately this retarded

>>31661362
You can go to the bitches own site and it will tell you she supports AWB 2.0, removal of civil protections for manufacturers\ dealers, Executive orders limiting imports, extrajudiciary removal of gun rights, and many other things that are bad for gun owners and gun companies. She does not believe in an individual right to bear arms.
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/gun-violence-prevention/

>>31661467
You think they'll stop at UBCs and waiting periods? Fucking kek.

Tell me what was the mantra by gun control activists after UBC was passed in Washington state?

They literally said "we aren't done yet!"

It won't end. They want Britsharia and Ausfailian gun laws.

>>31661440
>But yea, I'm gonna believe the corrupt establishment and MSM is telling me the truth.
What about if they tell you she won?

>>31661496
Go ahead and bet for a Trump win if you are so confident :)

>>31661505
>It won't end. They want Britsharia and Ausfailian gun laws.
No, they want to literally ban guns 100% and totally, including airshit, toy guns, you name it.

>>31661496
Enjoy looking like an idiot in November.

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>>31661506
Polls are faked so the inevitable voter fraud won't be so suspicious. The US is fucked and you guys are going to lose your gun rights at this rate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUDTcxIqqM0

>>31661506
I think the US is fucked at that point

Hillary is going to take your guns through executive orders and Scotus nominations and flood the country with mexicans muslims and africans to vote for democrats for a thousand years.

Probably gonna dome myself if she wins.

F U D
U
D

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@31661511
@31661525
$.50 has been deposited into your account. $.25 for each post, you're on a roll today!

>>31661558
Holy shit, I usually just get $0.02, along with a $0.02 processing fee. Where can I get on the $0.25 train?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HrUUXOHgzg

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>>31661528
>you guys
>clearly spends no time at all on /k/ aside from shilling #ForHer
fuck off outsider

>>31661558
No one has CTRed anything here.
It just a fact that currently Hillary is going to crush the election. It is still not inevitable.

>>31661579
>$0.04 has been deposited to your account

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>>31661576
You guys as in Americans. I'm also accusing her of voter fraud here. Not exactly shilling, you know.

>>31661579
Sounds like something a CTR "virgin nerd" would post.

:^)

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>>31661506

Not worried. /pol/ will save us.

>>31661579
>It just a fact that currently Hillary is going to crush the election


Then why do all the polls need to be massively over representing democrats, underrepresenting republicans and almost outright ignoring independents to come to that result?

Why are said polls using 2012 voting demographics to gauge "likely voters"?

>s-she is doing so well after we heavily distort the numbers to make it look like she is doing well
>what you don't believe these blatantly skewed polls?! what are you some conspiracy theorist?

>>31661370
Thanks for fucking us Trumpers.

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>>31661626
Because she will win through voter fraud. If the polls showed her true support numbers, nobody would believe her victory.

>>31661467
>which I think is somewhat reasonable

Walk into your kitchen and slit your own throat with a dirty steak knife you faggot.

>>31661476
Cook is the only remotely reliable source in there

This is what the Republicans get for choosing Trump as your nominee. You guys so royally fucked up.

>>31661505
Have you seen the anti-adler shit in Australia? It never ends, ever.

>>31661626
Oh i remember that 2012 unskewing for Romney
Turn out the polls were right he lost.

http://www.businessinsider.com/unskewed-pollster-dean-chambers-nate-silver-election-dick-morris-michael-barone-2012-11

What's the argument for it this time?

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>>31661657
>republicans
Anon pls. He's a third position candidate with almost no support from the Republicans themselves. Why do you think all the media and establishment are fighting against him? The Rep/Dem shitshow is just two sides of the exact same coin and the coin's in the pocket of whoever's got the most money to bribe and extort people with.

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>>31661644

RARE BILLS

>>31661644
This 110%.

Rasmussen says Trump is winning by like 3 points while other polls say she's leading by double digits.

At least one of those groups is flat out lying for that to be the case.

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>>31661696
What's that, a Bill for ants?

>>31661657
Yeah, we should have chosen another Bible-thumping social conservative good ol' boy politician, that wouldn't worked out great.

Maybe if you guys believed the (((polls))) during the primaries you wouldn't have nominated an unelectable candidate for the general election.

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>>31661626
>>31661670
Blatant overrepresentation with an unpopular candidate

You can't use Obama incumbent numbers for Clinton

Nate silver has been wrong every step of this election, one fat retard in denial in 2012 does not change the skewed blatantly polls in 2016

Obama was a popular democrat in a change election coming out of a bush presidency

Clinton is a very unpopular democrat in a change election on the heels of an Obama presidency

These are two vastly different situations with massively different primaries reflecting that.

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Because politicians are so good at delivering what they promise, amirite?

>FL
>NC
>OH
>AZ
>NV
>Blue
How can one map contain so much memery?

>>31661717
At least they wouldn't have touched your guns.

>>31661717
Guess your party is just plain shit if those are your choices

>>31661739
They are when they have an actual agenda and rule through executive orders and the supreme court

>>31661726
This election is very polarizing though. A ton of people are going to vote against Trump.

>>31661739
Yes. They always find it in them to deliver on whatever negative promises they've made.

>>31661752
They wouldn't have been able to do anything because they would have lost right out of the gate, because the GOP is obsessed with putting the same Christfag candidates up who want to play nice during the election and spend half of their time making apologies for things the DNC accused them of. Fuck you, enabler.

>>31661762
Who? Johnson has been siphoning more dems than anything, and only the most ardent of leftists support her

>>31661757
>your party
>implying

>>31661776
No they wouldn't.

Rubio for example beat Clinton easily in all polls. He would have won the senate as well.

Your guns wouldn't have been touched. You faggots had to support a meme.

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Except congress is what determines what passes and what doesn't, they'll have her non-existent balls in a vice, they probably already know what a shit president she'll be and will stonewall her

Firearm and ammunition manufacturing is pretty big in america and a good portion of national revenue, not to mention how many jobs are gun related

you also have the NRA and republicans wholesale lobbying against her

and even if she is elected initially, she may very well be forced to resign, we may even see an impeachment

AWB 2.0 will not happen, at worst it'll pass in cities and areas/states that are already anti-gun dispositions but fuck them anyway.

Calm your hard-ons just a bit

>>31661739
Ones that act like dictators and don't care about the rule of law sure do.

If Trump gets in the most likely scenario is gridlock either his entire term or until midterm elections if by that point people are still mad enough to vote out Democrats and RINOs. After that he might get shit done.

Hillary will illegally use executive actions and a Congress full of spineless Republicans that will yield to Democrat bullshit, not to mention stacking the Supreme Court with people that view it as a way to advance their agenda instead of doing their job of interpreting laws based on the Constitution and it's ORIGINAL meaning.

I'll take 4 years of Trump bitching about Congress and doing nothing over a soft dictator any day of the fucking week.

>>31661742
Because nate silver is a fucking joke

he has spent the last year and a half saying

>Trump will never do x

only to have trump immediately
do it and then Nate moves on to the next item

>>31661762
And a ton of people are sick of 8 years of Obama, hate clinton with a passion and will vote for the first time or are switching parties

Lots of us like Trumps policy proposals too

I agree that it's a very polarized nation but only one of the candidates has an establishment rigging polling in their favor to make them look like a viable candidate

Just like they have to rig the primaries and carry her up flights of stairs

the establishment has to weekend at bernies this candidate and they are going all out.

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Hillary is trying to become president so she can find Bill's phylactery hidden in the Oval office.

>>31661784
>No they wouldn't.
Oh, okay, the past decade has just been a fluke then, thanks.

Post your guns, I'm smelling some record correcting at play.

Part of me wonders if Clinton is even going to attempt major gun control in her first term. Considering how hard it hit the Dems in 2014 after the failed Sandy Hook AWB, I'm hoping that she's making her position known to score voters but won't move until a potential second term since it'll be hard to get re-elected on something like that. I'm hoping she'll end up trying to burn her first-term political capital on something like trying to unfuck Obamacare or free college or something equally dumb that she can point to in 2020 as an "accomplishment that benefitted all Americans," by which point the GOP will likely have its head out of its ass and be ready to stomp Clinton into the dirt with someone who isn't a scandal-prone reality TV star.

>>31661739
Well obama did get drilling in the gulf to open up

about the only good thing he did but still

>>31661784
Rubio is a neocon republicrat that wants amnesty and would give a democratic congress whatever they wanted.

I'm glad Trump killed his political career.

>>31661781
>>31661717
>Yeah, we should have chosen
>we

>>31661779
I mean i try to base these views on polls. I think it is a better shot than trying to gauge the feeling of people against Clinton by sniffing the air.

Day one all clinton has to do is appoint an antigunner justice and have one of her cronies push through a case that bring heller to the scotus

bam, individual right to keep and bear arms gone

javascript:;

>>31661798
Hopefully you're right

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>>31661784
>White bible-thumping career politician #296-F
vs.
>Muh womyn POTUS

>2016

>>31661320
>Virginia
>implying all the niggers who voted blue are gonna vote again for a white cracker
You're gonna have a bad time on the 8th of November, my friend.

>>31661808
>I mean i try to base these views on polls.

>I try to gauge my opinion on the propaganda the people proven to be colluding with one of the candidates feeds me

>>31661797
>>31661801
And? He is a neocon but si what.

Did Bush pass gun control? No.

Rubio opposed all gun control you fucking idiot.

You retarded cunts cost us the election and our gun rights. This is what you get for supporting a fucking meme.

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>I trust the crooked media!

>hillary claims 18,000 at Ohio rally
>MSM explodes
>18,000 attend clinton rally
>her rallies aren't dead!
>l-look she can do it too!
>her biggest yet!

>>31661467
>Waiting periods are reasonable

Really faggot?

>>31661860
>Did Bush pass gun control? No.

He publicly stated that if congress had put another AWB on his desk he would have signed it.

>Rubio opposed all gun control you fucking idiot.

Florida resident here, he pushed for gun control here so shut the fuck up.

>h-he said so on the campaign trail so that makes it true!
>I don't do any research into candidates!

>>31661496
If anything it makes people who dislike Hillary more inclined to vote.

>>31661813
The important thing to remember is that right wouldn't be gone, since it's an unalienable right endowed to you by your creator, just no longer recognized by the government.

Don't let the anti language infect you. The government exists to protect your rights (even if that's not what they're doing nowadays...), not give them to you, because they have no right to take them from you. They're yours to begin with.

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>>31661886

>>31661381
>>31661410
>>31661499

Playing devil's advocate here, but her beliefs seem pretty in line with Obama and nothing much happened during his term.

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>>31661886
>since it's an unalienable right endowed to you by your creator

>>31661860
>Rubio opposed all gun control you fucking idiot.
It doesn't matter when he has no fucking chance of being elected you goddamned noguns retard.

>>31661886
The problem is having rights your over inflating federal government disagrees with and outright abhores.

>>31661903
He got lots of imports banned

He came pretty close to AWB 2.0

He also didn't have a supreme court majority at any point in his presidency

>>31661903
Before Sandy Hook the only piece of gun legislation that Obama signed was allowing firearms in National Parks.

>>31661899
Yes

>>31661912
...are you trying to deny that? If you're trying to be le edgy athiest or something just take "creator" to mean birthright. The point is your rights aren't given to you- they're yours from the start.

>>31661860
>He is a neocon but so what
You are exactly why the GOP imploded, and it's incredible that you think a neo-shit has any prayer of getting into the White House after what happened with Bush. I bet you thought the Tea Party was going to save the day in 2012, too, idiot.

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>>31661935
>The point is your rights aren't given to you- they're yours from the start.
Rights do not exist independently. They're simply a creation of people and they will only exist so long as people think they exist.

>>31661903

Once she stacks the supreme court with lifetime appointees it will be very difficult to regain our rights.

Just as with Obama issuing executive orders and it taking years to get the gears moving to undo it.

>>31661918
He beat clinton in all polls retard.

>>31661924

>He got lots of imports banned
I know he banned the importation of Korean ex-service Garands but what else did he ban?

>He came pretty close to AWB 2.0
I know he called for one but I'm pretty sure that it didn't get anywhere near becoming law.

>He also didn't have a supreme court majority at any point in his presidency

I just realized this oh shit oh shit oh shit

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>>31661798
Nah. Nah, that's a good world. We clearly don't live in a good world.

That shit has been her prerogative for decades. The only thing she has not lied or flip-flopped on is this. She has said she is fundamentally against Heller, which is literally just "People have a right to guns for defense," effectively. There are literal gun control safety bullshit measures that are literally ineffective and only supported by dumb leftist faggots trying to troll gun owners out of a right named after her.

She has been against it he entire life. She has supported every measure against us, and will do as much as she can off Obama's momentum on his executive order bullshit. She will stack the Supreme Court against. She has lied about everything, always, except this.

This is just this whole shitshow election. I despise "lesser evil" logic and want more choices, and don't want to vote that way. Except this time. They aren't literally coming for your guns and won't have the power or balls to try.

Except this time.

>>31661903
Just because she wants to do something doesn't mean she can. People seem to have a hard time understanding this. Supreme Court has already decided that individual ownership of firearms is covered in the second amendment, salt killing baby rifles and all.

>>31661860
>Rubio opposed all gun control you fucking idiot.
boy howdy, as a guy who lives in Florida I wish your interpretation of his stances applied to real life. it's like you actually don't know anything about him.

>>31661958
Well yeah, just like how the Constitution is only a piece of old parchment and it's up to us to enforce it, like all laws.

I guess I dont know what the guy in your pic is from.

>Cue a bunch of angry replies

>>31661880
>>31661880
>he supported gun control

No he didn't faggot.

http://www.ontheissues.org/Domestic/Marco_Rubio_Gun_Control.htm

>>31661960
Not to mention the massive illegal amnesty, open borders and refugees she will take in to either become citizens and vote democrat or have children that will vote democrat


>the american people don't want socialism
>just fill america with third worlders and promise them welfare!

The constitution is dead if she wins lads.

>>31661980
>I know he banned the importation of Korean ex-service Garands but what else did he ban?

7n6 and Izmash for starters

Somebody had a whole list with more things but those are the biggest


>I know he called for one but I'm pretty sure that it didn't get anywhere near becoming law.

They died in the senate thank god, but only because the people were marching armed to their state capitols.

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>>31661998
Guy is Max Stirner.

>>31661964
Post your guns you shilling cunt.

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>>31661792
The being we call Hillary is actually a 3,000-year-old mummy called Hil-Ar-Hotep. Once in office, she will expend the resources of the United States in her quest to find the lost Staff of Amun-Ra. If the Staff is found, she will be able to triple her mummy powers, complete the ritual of blood, and become an avatar of Ammit, the eater of souls. Expect an annexation of Egypt, and the capital relocated to a newly-constructed necropolis in the Valley of the Kings shortly afterward.

Not so sure why she's all gung-ho about banning guns, though. In her current form, she can only be harmed by fire.

>>31662004
>cannot read

>>31661980
Saigas, entirely.

Granted, it was less a "fuck gun owners" and more of a "fuck Russia for giving rebels SAMs they used to shoot down a civilian airliner and then pretending they didn't," but it still fucked us.

I'm still angrier about the Garands, because his reasoning for those was "we're going to keep these "military grade" weapons out of civilian hands."

>>31662004
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/01/11/former-nra-president-marco-rubio-wasnt-friend-gun-owners-fl/

Gun control was also not the only issue with him, a neocon warhawk that wants amnesty is not something the right wants and the primaries reflected that.

>>31662014
I won't. Cry more faggot.

Enjoy your gun control. This what you get for supporting an unelectable retarded meme who cannot keep his dumb mouth shut for five minutes.

>>31661964
>can't beat Trump in the fucking GOP primary, but surely this midget Christfag would have dominated Clinton!
Neck yourself

>>31661982
I don't think she'd start off with door to door confiscation, but shed definitely go from death by a thousand paper cuts to death by about 10 deep stabbings in terms of gutting the 2A.

>>31662010
I guess that's a meme I've missed then, I'll have to look it up and check my connection to the world meme database, it's apparently faulty.

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>>31661903
I didn't think we'd see this shit swing back around for fucking Hillary Clinton, but lo and behold, three weeks prior we're here.

Fuck this timeline.

>>31662038
>I won't.
>I can't
FTFY CTR!

>>31662038
>I won't

Pretty much proves you are an outsider in these parts.

Get steppin faggot.

>>31662036
>his house failed to pass a law allowing guns at work
>HURR HE SUPPORTS GUN CONTROL

Trump said he supports waiting periods and an AWB back during the 90s, idiot.

>>31662043
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_rubio_vs_clinton-3767.html

Unironically bury yourself alive you cretinous cunt.

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>>31662038
Put an egg in your shoe and beat it, pal.

Make like a tree and leaf, buddy.

If you don't want to walk away, youre free to piss in your shoes and float, faggot.

>>31662072
>Trump said something people that don;t have a good understanding of firearms say 20 years ago

>rubio was undermining progun legislation 8 years ago

>Trump has two adamantly progun children
>one of which shitposts on gun forums across the internet.

>>31662072
>I literally, genuinely can't read
CTRfags are the fucking worst, Christ.

>>31662044
Oh, I don't either, but you nailed it with "ten deep stabbings." It was Obama's prerogative after Sandy Hook, and he got smacked down and never had the court. She would have the court and count every day.

>>31661367
>right either fosters or is indifferent to outright racists against latin americans
>surprised when latins vote by default democratically

you guys are largely at fault with this. literally so many hispanics would vote republican just because so many of them are also religious nutjobs but because you guys dont try at all at dispelling the right = racist meme they all just vote blue when in reality either side is just as harmful to them in the end

>>31662099
No what, Trump did was change his positions when he was called out on it.

He is not a supporter of gun riggts.

Rubio's only failure was failing to get the bill that allows carry at work passed.

This does not mean he supports gun control you fucking tard.

>>31661320
Hillary can't pass shit without Congress. Quit encouraging panic buy you shitbird.

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>>31662038
>Can't post guns
>"Y u no elect establishment neocon retard!?" It's so transparent now it actually hurts

>>31661960
The best hope we have is that somehow the number of justices is reduced before Obama leaves office and the Congress swings too blue. This will limit the amount of damage that can be done with the Supreme Court.

>>31661320
>blue states are primarily coastal

the oceans are the enemy

>>31662111
She won't get the court if she can't get the Senate.

At this point, I'm far more concerned over the possibility of a Democratic Senate. I live in Texas, so my voting independent won't affect a thing, but you better believe I'm yanking every (R) lever otherwise.

>>31661496
It's /k/
This board can sometimes make /b/ look smart.

>>31662112
Everyone knows the amount of actual racists in either party is very small. It's the Democrats using division politics and the media constantly magnifying right wing racists while hiding left wing racists that does that. Remember when the DNC was calling Mexicans "taco bowls" and how quick that was swept under the rug?

Not to mention wanting to actually control our borders now is somehow racist as is asking for a fucking ID to vote, even after the Dems have been caught on tape saying they commit mass election fraud.

>>31662136
Now you know why liberals call every state that isn't on the coast a flyover state.

>>31662117
>No what, Trump did was change his positions when he was called out on it.

Yes, he changed his opinion during the election and his two adult sons suddenly became staunch second amendment supporters that had been hunting and sport shooting for years shitposting about using your guns for shooting federales and whining about gun control.

I think it's more likely his sons had an impact on him over a span of 20 years

before I got into guns I was a retard that had no legitimate opinions on gun control aside from what law and order told me to think.


>Rubio's only failure was failing to get the bill that allows carry at work passed.

>Hammer described Rubio as a man who talked pro-gun when the cameras were rolling but worked in ways that hurt the bill’s chances of passage behind the scenes. Hammer said, “He has not been a friend to gun owners. He tried to cover himself by voting for it after doing everything he could to work against it. He plays to an audience. We will make sure our members know.”

The “Preservation and Protection of the Right to Keep and Bear Arms in Motor Vehicles Act” passed the legislature in 2008—during Rubio’s tenure as Florida House Speaker—and was signed into law by Governor Charlie Crist. Rubio voted for the measure, yet just over a year after it was signed, Hammer reflected on the effort it took to get the bill passed and said, “[Rubio] was a big disappointment to us when he was the speaker. He talked the talk, but he didn’t walk the walk,” according to the Tampa Bay Times.

The Washington Examimer points to a Miami Herald story in which Rubio said he was okay with “reasonable restrictions” on guns. Rubio said this while he was running against Charlie Crist for the Republican nomination for U.S. Senate.

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Is there an actual unironic Rubio retard in here?

>>31662112
Latinos want their familia legalized.

Republican voters (not the party higher-ups) don't want that.

Latinos would never vote for the GOP, even if they agreed on everything else, solely on immigration.

>>31661362

Fucking kill yourself

>>31662161
>>31662161
But Rubio—now Senator Rubio—wasn’t done. The Washington Examiner reports that “Rubio hinted after the Sandy Hook school shooting that he might be open to stricter gun laws for convicted felons or the mentally ill.” At that time, Rubio’s spokesman Alex Contant said that the Florida Senator had “always been open to measures that would keep guns out of the hands of criminals and the mentally ill


>>31662169
Must be from Miami-Dade

>>31661320
I doubt Arizona will go blue, but I expect Trump to lose.

>>31661657
You should understand why voters chose Trump.

http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-reasons-trumps-rise-that-no-one-talks-about/

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>>31662188
>Cracked.com

>>31661320
>AZ
>blue
Fuck no

>>31662184
Well la dee damn da for him, unfortunately for him I remember the Crist-Ribbityrubio shitfest, as do plenty of other FLfags who have guns to call their own.

>>31661903
Because the Supreme court was 6-3 conservative for most of his term.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBxi6ooaTgA

>>31662196
the az republic endorsed a dem for the first time ever this year, but I agree it's not going blue

>>31662144
She has the senate
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/senate/?ex_cid=2016-forecast

Say good bye to your gun rights

>>31662136
Flyover states don't matter.

Rural communities don't matter.

The world, and modern society, revolves around cities and urban areas. This is a fact.

>>31662144
>She won't get the court if she can't get the Senate.
>implying ball-less republicans will stand up to the media screaming racism and sexism for not approving her nominees
>implying they won't make a big show of doing so and then cave 3 weeks later
They couldn't stand up to Obama but you think they'll keep SCOTUS a seat empty for 4 years? Delusional.

>>31661320

>South Carolina only weakly GOP

My faith in that state restored.

>>31662215
>538

come on

You might as well just link her campaign website.

>>31662195
It's actually a good article that explains the problems with rural America, and why they're going for Trump.

Maybe you should try reading it before instantly dismissing it.

>>31661320

>Hillary literally said the SCOTUS was wrong on the 2A
She factually did not say that.

Don't get me wrong, I'm as worried as the next /k/ommando about AWB 2: This Time It's Permanent, but let's not muddy the board with shitposting.

>>31662248
Yes she did.

See
>>31661381

Fucking leftist idiot.

>>31661786
hope your right man, everyone everyone forgets congress might not want to work with her, plus what you already mentioned I would not be surprised if local cops fight this too they want their guns to

>>31662248
>>31662255

http://freebeacon.com/politics/leaked-audio-clinton-says-supreme-court-is-wrong-on-second-amendment/

>>31662248
>She factually did not say that.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/04/22/chelsea-clinton/

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/07/31/clinton_every_right_that_we_have_is_open_to_and_subject_to_reasonable_regulations.html

>>31662248
Even if she didn't, the dissenting opinions in Heller should be enough to concern anybody.

>>31662248
How much do they pay you?

>>31662248
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-05-20/hillary-clinton-believes-pivotal-gun-rights-ruling-was-wrong-adviser-says

I'd love to actually see what you guys imagine the odds are of a federal AWB these days, considering the AR15 market share now is ridiculous compared to back in '94.

I would also be interested in how you expect states like S. Carolina, Arizona, Utah, or Texas to react if said measure passed the predicted Republican congress.

>>31662248
I'm sorry, to Correct The Record, you must actually be correct, your application has been denied at this time.

Hillary is going to win the presidency but dems ain't gonna get the house. Quit bellyaching and take a chill pill. Christ, you all sound like liberals with Bush was elected.

>>31662255
>>31662269
>>31662282
>>31662286
>>31662311

Wew, that's a lot of butthurt.

Let me be clearer on this for you, so you can understand that we're more fundamentally screwed than you currently realize.

Clinton has now made it her public position that 2A supports an individual right to bear arms (regardless of what a policy adviser, who is not Clinton, said in one article). In the grand scheme of things, this a strategically superior position for her to take, because it gives her cover to pursue numerous other restrictions that don't technically undercut 2A (for example, an AWB).

The problem for Democrats with attempting to reverse Heller is that it would likely incite the NRA to start a national campaign for a new, much stronger amendment on gun rights. Which anybody with a brain here should know is what is actually necessary to fend off gun-grabbers. And the demographic nature of the 50 states being what they are, that new amendment would probably pass, because gun-grabbing liberals are overwhelmingly concentrated in 10-12 states... and you only need 38 to ratify.

If we're lucky, Clinton WILL start making unguarded comments about Heller in public, and that'll be enough to get the NRA and whatever patriots are left in the federal government off their asses. But I wouldn't count on it.

>>31662284

Of course.

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>>31662433
>that don't technically undercut 2A (for example, an AWB).
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
>Act so as to limit or undermine (something); encroach on.
If you're doing this for free, stop.

>>31661798
>the GOP will likely have its head out of its ass

I've been saying this since 2008. The Republicans will never win a national race EVER again. I'm serious. The demographic changes alone will prevent it.

>>31662444

Why do you have to insist on being so aggressively fucking stupid.

I'm talking about how THE COURTS see the law. Not average citizens. Remember how Heller protected "assault weapons" from being banned? Neither do I.

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>>31662248
>Don't get me wrong, I'm as worried as the next /k/ommando about AWB 2: This Time It's Permanent, but let's not muddy the board with shitposting.

>>31662483

Not an argument.

>>31662495
It is, you're just either too stupid see it or too morally bankrupt to care.

>>31662507

No, you're an overly emotional child.

>>31661511
I did fucker

Enjoy being a nogunz

>>31662516
lol

>>31662474
That's been the case for years.

Every white voter in the US could vote Republican, and the GOP would still lose because every non-white voter will vote Democrat.

Democrats could easily win national elections permanently, provided they consistently.

Oddly for the Democrats, they are shit at turning out their voters during midterms. I don't know why; maybe Democrat voters think only national elections matter.

>>31661798
>by which point the GOP will likely have its head out of its ass
The GOP is apparently suicidal and gets off at the thought of losing. The party is effectively dead as we know it.
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/274614-paul-ryan-booed-at-hometown-trump-rally

>>31662539
>Oddly for the Democrats, they are shit at turning out their voters during midterms. I don't know why; maybe Democrat voters think only national elections matter.

Because non-presidential elections don't get wall to wall nightly news coverage by the media spouting how the GOP is racist and other bullshit like that, so they don't care as much.

>>31661320
I had my firearms seized back in 2014. too poor to make any firearm purchases now. meanwhile everyone is:
>glad they are finally taking guns off the streets :-)))))
fuck california.

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>>31662516
Not the anon you're having a spat with, but one of the Podesta Wikileaks shows she wants to hold the gun manufacturers liable. That liability would be passed on to fire arms cost with a whole heap of variables. Increasing the difficulty to afford and manufacture is an obvious shoe in for gun control. You can whole heartily disagree with with issues and such, that's your right, but what you're trying to say is just not true.

>>31662568
I'm surprised it took this long for people to realize the media bias.

The media is always against whatever candidate the GOP shits out.

Who wants to bet that the OP owns a gun store or some other kind of firearms-related business?

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>>31662024
hence why we are getting a reboot of "The Mummy" Franchise

It's all making sense now

>>31662585
I bought another while I waited for the DA to charge me HUEHUEHUE. Fuck the Mormons and their land grabs.

>>31662606
More people are waking up to it now for sure, but I think a lot of people have always known and just not cared. It's just now it's getting so blatant and absurd you can't ignore it. If Clinton wasn't such a disgusting and obviously evil person, people probably still wouldn't care.

>>31661866
Okay, I get that a lot of us, to include myself, on this Chinese portrait forum will do some tedious mundane shit, but did someone actually take the time to count every last person in that pic, or was a program used?

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these are the same threads as when obama was getting elected

>>31662112
Hispanics and catholics are all socialist fuck ups.

>>31662195
The dude sounded a bit douchey when he replied, but it's actually a good fucking article and one of the only sane pieces I've read this whole election. Doesn't much take sides, and when it does he literally says "It's because I live in cities and work in a liberal job."

It's a good read.

Lol, half of you have already given up, and the other half is so paranoid that you see CTR everywhere you look.

Here's a little secret: CTR didn't have to do anything here. You guys did it all for us.

See you on Inaguration Day 2017, boys. Maybe when you're done moping about not getting to play soldier anymore, we can let you coach soccer instead.

Co-ed soccer.

>>31662647
I never committed acts or was charged with anything. a family member of mine committed a felony with their own firearm, on their property. my firearms stored in their safe were confiscated, and i was informed way too late to do anything about it in court. sucks to get vicariously dicked by the law.

>>31662121
except Trump is dragging down a lot of downballot republican elections with him.

Hillary has been plannign this shit since 2008. She wants to make sure she was elected and the Republican gains since 2010 are all undone.

Even if the Republicans can hold the House. Paul Ryan is going to have the Republicans selling out on everything to retain their seats.

>>31662658
Obama didn't have half the SCOTUS on death's door or near retirement when he was elected.

>>31662667
If someone archive.is it I'll read it. I refuse to give Cracked any more clicks after a straight year of liberal antics even worse than they did before.

>>31662647
>I bought another while I waited for the DA to charge me HUEHUEHUE. Fuck the Mormons and their land grabs.
Story?

>>31662623
>reboot of "The Mummy" Franchise

Jesus fuckshit, are you serious?

>>31662687
>Paul Ryan is going to have the Republicans selling out
That asshole deserves to be strung up from a light post, not even joking.

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>>31662708
http://archive.is/sXjMm

There you go.

I feel you, and I agree, but this is one of the old guard Cracked guys that actually has talent and a sense of perspective. Wrote some good books, too.

>>31662750
Paul "ayn rand is my waifu" Ryan, as his first major act as Speaker, passed a 3 trillion omnibus spending bill. That basically gave the Democrats everything.

>>31661646
I've actually got a pound of ribeye waiting in the fridge right now, I think I'd rather slit that with a steak knife :^)

>>31662757
Wong is such a left wing shitter even Reddit called him on it, and his first book was mediocre young adult tier. The sequel was garbage.

>>31662757
Wong is the entire reason Cracked went fullretard SJW...

>>31662653
guy who made it posted updates every 10 minutes or so with new circles. It was all hand done.

>>31661320
What's the point of having all these guns if we never band together and use them to remove corrupt politicians?

>>31662757
Thanks. I read it, and it wasn't nearly as bad as I was expecting. He still is obviously very liberal, and the urban/rural divide he's pointing out is extremely obvious anyway though.

Or maybe it's not, at least to your average, fairly stupid, people that live their entire lives in cities never imagine life elsewhere, but to anyone with common sense it's pretty obvious. I read somewhere that living in a city makes people more open to regulation because when you live so close to so many strangers it's just easier to have the government come in and decide what everyone should do instead of working it out yourselves. I understand the reasoning even if I vehemently disagree with it, but so many people are just adult babies wanting papa government to come kiss their booboos it's ridiculous.

>>31662945
for fun

having to stake your life and all you own on removing government figures isn't fun

>>31662774
It was necessary to avoid a shutdown, unfortunately.

Am I fine just buying lowers?

>>31662992
>government shutdown
>bad

>>31662992
Lol. Literally who gives a fuck if the federal government """shuts down"""? It's happened plenty of times and the country didn't disappear. It's only a fairly small percentage of gov workers that stop working under a shutdown anyway. If anything it's a good thing because if Congress isn't meeting, they're not working to spend our money and fuck us over.

Spain has been running without a federal government for a while now. It's such a non-issue I'd bet you haven't even heard of it. State and local governments can run things just fine. The point of federalism is to localize control as much as possible. The role of the federal government is SUPPOSED to be to step in and slap down bullshit like California's gun laws. If they're not doing that they're worse than useless.

>>31661320
Obama says "we need more refugees"
>Texas says "nah son"
Hillary says "you can't have semi automatic rifles anymore"
>Guess what Texas will fucking say

God damn, I love living in a free state.

>>31662539
>>31662568
Not only is it what he said, but that kind of belies the liberal mindset, isn't it? At the most bleak and dismissive, we can easily tell their attitude. We're the ones that care about the constitution. We're the one who care about checks and balances, and realize that Hillary right now would be handed the keys to the next century of politics because of the supreme court nods. We're the people that care for sake of our fundamental rights.

They, by and large, just buy the bullshit. Gay rights or racism or equal pay or whatever, they just want to be nice and they want the guy at the top to be someone that they want. They don't care about the machinations. They don't care about local office or know that a Convention of States is even a thing. They just care about the head of state.

It's pretty fucking annoying. It's just their psychology. They always, always, always want someone else to do it, to be taken care of. They don't want the responsibility, they just want the reward.

>>31661786

I hope you're right, but I don't trust that. Once she's in, it'll be much harder to remove her. DOJ and FBI aren't doing shit about her, plus we have no idea if Obama will make any moves. She's already shown she will force her way through what she wants. She's the biggest cockroach around--And you'll find a thousand more around her nearby hidden behind the walls.

I really hope you're right, and I've said the same thing before, but she's got too many in her back pocket to matter anymore. I'm hoping that the electors will get gridlocked and pass the vote onto the House, but it's been such a long time since that's happened...

If it does though, there's no way we could lose.

>>31662757
Oh yeah, I read that one earlier. Don't get me wrong, Wong is seriously about the most liberal SJW I've ever had the displeasure of reading, but in this one he at least is willing to recognize his own bias, and he humanizes rural republican voters instead of the usual liberal tactic of "nurr hurr muh racist privileged white trash trailer park inbreds half the country must be in the kkk shame shame shame"

>>31663191
>It's just their psychology.
So long as they get to keep their 9-5, their mundane suburban home, and their mind-numbing "I tour Presidential sites"-tier hobbies, they couldn't give less of a shit what happens to their rights.

>>31663191
CATO did a talk about whether or not socialism and big government nannystatism is something hardwired into some people's brains. I've been meaning to watch it for a while now because it really just has to be the case. Logical, thinking people cannot look at history and think "well we'll do it better than literally everyone else before us has!" yet thats what happens over and over. It's insane.

>>31663292
Bread and circuses senpai, bread and circuses. Not to get all SHEEP DAWG on this but it really disgusts me how stupid and/or apathetic the average person is. I know plenty of people that are definitely not dumb people, but they put exactly zero thought into politics or rights. For them the nightly news telling them liberalism and big government are the answer is enough apparently.

>>31662260
congress has it's own interests that are fundamentally different from what Hillary wants, different agendas. Congress wants to make money from whatever rackets they've set up and be left alone, Hillary has an agenda to push, ergo changes to make. Congress isn't particularly fond of change, especially if it hits close to home where their private workings are. Plenty of congressmen and women have their fingers in businesses that concern the gun trade. You have brass miners of whom ammunition factories are a huge buyer, gunpowder mills as it has significant use in mining companies as well as ammo, and a bunch of auxiliary groups with investments in things like magnesium, steel, carbon, fine wood, composite plastics, anything that's used to make a gun the materials come from somewhere. If those people are cut out, so is the congressman/woman who's got their fingers in that pie, they can't have that, they'll want to protect their interest, and so long as congress says no, Hillary won't get her way, legally. Besides her underhanded practices, there's no way to know how many congress delegates have private business in what materials. As for cops, a significant portion of officers are also gun owners and would put up some level of resistance, but that'd be only if full blown gun confiscation occurred but I can almost guarantee that's not gonna happen.
>>31663192
Here's a token of hope, the same racketeering I mentioned above, Hillary was up to her wrists in a shitton more pies than anybody, and not just from the Clinton Foundation. Ever since she started running for president she's tried to appear more legitimate, but that can't happen if there's proof to the contrary. Alot of the people she's had business with have started "having accidents", a guy lost in a plane crash here, a 'suicide' there, to even an open gunning down in public. Anybody close to her damn well knows she's tying off lose ends, hopefully that makes people think twice about working with her.

>>31662112
>>31662176
>>31662662

Please do not refer to Mestizos as Latinos or
"Latin American". Thanks.

>>31663045
>>31663062
Some of us work for or have family that work for the government.

>lel, who cares if the government shuts down

How about the people who need to get paid to support themselves or their families?

>>31662207
What the fuck are you on about?

>>31663292
>>31663351
Blame the modern era.

The easier life gets, the more apathetic people become.

For most people in the West, life is pretty comfortable right now. In their eyes, as long as that remains the case, who cares about anything else.

>>31663460
And some of us have family that work jobs that have been destroyed by that government.

Government is way bigger than it should be. The IRS has more agents than the FBI and CIA combined. If that doesn't tell you what the govt's priorities are I don't know what will.

There's an 80% chance whatever jobs your talking about has no legitimate reason to exist, at least as a function of government. That doesn't make it any easier on people working them when they're not getting paid, but if a group of people has to get fucked over I'll pick government workers every time.

>>31661362
"Gun show loophole"?
Also waiting periods are fucking bullshit

>>31663460
Good riddance the government leeches get shut out

>>31663515
I don't agree with anything that puts anybody out of work. There needs to be a better solution.

Is it not possible to just past a simple spending bill that keeps the government funded, without any partisan agendas involved?

>>31663515
>The IRS has more agents than the FBI and CIA combined

That explains why mobsters and drug dealers get caught by the IRS before the FBI gets them.

>>31663192
I should also say, funny as it sounds, they're the good guys in this, it's their job to investigate corrupt shit, I guarantee they know every little thing Hillary has ever done, they no doubt have a complete roadmap of her political career going all the way back to her days as an attorney at law, and is accurate to the day.

The problem is that their hands are tied, if they release any of that information, they risk their jobs, for telling people what they don't want to hear. That's another FBI director "forced to retire" and a recycle of agents and employees who know too much, probably replaced with their own goons.

Here's where it gets delicious

The FBI reports to the president, and the FBI is by the majority banking on Trump winning, at which point they can release all they're collected and researched on Hillary directly to him. Once Trump's had enough of beating off hard to all of her dirty laundry, he can say whatever the fuck he wants about her and have the proof to back it up. She'll go to jail/mental hospital for treason level political/war crimes, rackets and interests are protected and safe on account of Trump's tolerance for guns, everyone wins.

And Bill will die within the rest of this year or 2017.

That doesn't mean it's a given though, go out and give your vote, Hillary is still buying votes.

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>>31663496

>>31662155
>sometimes.

It's the only board outside of /a/ where i'm positive it's 90% 16 year olds.

>>31663559
Continuing resolutions, which Congress has taken a big liking to in years past.

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>>31663559
>I don't agree with anything that puts anybody out of work. There needs to be a better solution.

It sucks for them, but those are jobs that should never have existed in the first place. Sorry if I can't feel too bad the people getting paid to fuck with me, with money taken out of my wallet at gun point no less, have to find another job. Is every government worker/job like that? No, but too many are.

>>31663565
Yup. Pic related.

Don't forget that the IRS targeted Tea Party groups and other conservative groups too.

>>31663575
>I should also say, funny as it sounds, they're the good guys in this, it's their job to investigate corrupt shit, I guarantee they know every little thing Hillary has ever done, they no doubt have a complete roadmap of her political career going all the way back to her days as an attorney at law, and is accurate to the day.
>The problem is that their hands are tied, if they release any of that information, they risk their jobs, for telling people what they don't want to hear. That's another FBI director "forced to retire" and a recycle of agents and employees who know too much, probably replaced with their own goons.
If they have a bunch of dirt on her and don't release it, they aren't the "good guys".

>>31663559

Forgot to respond to:
>Is it not possible to just past a simple spending bill that keeps the government funded, without any partisan agendas involved?

Not when partisan issues get put in the federal budget. Why the fuck wouldn't the either party fight to not fund something they don't want. Congress has the power of the purse for a reason. Of course it gets abused too, but that's just because of assholes.

See: https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2016/09/democrats-are-blocking-zika-funding-over-their-love-of-planned-parenthood

>>31663616
If they get fired and subsequently "have accidents" then they can't fight the good fight

They're biding their time, they have a job to do and it doesn't ask them to be martyrs

>>31663458
Not those others, but why?

Is that not where they're from?

>>31663654
THIS IS THE TIME

There is NO more important time than just before an election to release dirt.

Not that Hillary's supporters seem to care how many criminal acts she's committed, how many corporations and foreign interests she's been bought buy, or how many conflicts she's initiated.

>>31661798
>Gun control to score voters
>In a general election

That's not how it works at all. Look at her trying to obfuscate and portray herself as pro-2a during the 2nd debate.

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>>31663797
Are you drunk or are you allergic to proofreading?

>>31663584
Allow me to explain the contamination process: pine cones go in here, party liquors come out here, and proceed to here (pointing at mouth); fights begin, fingerprints is took, days is lost, bail is made, court dates are ignored, cycle is repeated.

>>31663690
Re-read >>31663575

The FBI reports to the president, Trump's not the president, Obama is president, Obama is Hillary's good friend, Trump is not allowed this information.

As for her supporters, who are mostly women, you just have to tug at their heart strings.

1975, Hillary was a lawyer, and worked a certain case on a mister Thomas Taylor, accused of raping a 12 year old girl, playing his defense when his case went to court. Long story short she found a loophole created by a mistake made by the prosecution and got Taylor to walk free, despite a mountain of evidence against him.

The tactic she used, and this'll make your face burn, was convine the girl that it was her fault she was sexually assaulted, that she coerced Taylor into raping her.

And she delivered all of this deadpan and ice cold, like it meant nothing to her. You tell people about something like that, especially the women she claims to represent and fight for, she'll be more than just ousted as a hypocrite.

Link to the article if you want, audio transcripts of the interview are there too. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2658801/I-never-trusted-polygraph-Hillary-Clinton-LAUGHS-recalls-helped-suspected-child-rapist-walk-free-prosecution-lost-crucial-evidence.html

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>gun enthusiast
>also international relations enthusiast

>realize Trump's gonna start an arms race in Asia

I-I have to choose between muh funz and the fact that I don't want Chinks to have nukes.

I'm voting Clinton because a GOP-dominated congress should be able to block her gun control, yet I would prefer her in the war room.

>>31663732
That's what I'm saying - it's a second-term issue. Dems learned the hard way that pushing hard on gun control will get you fucked when you're up for re-election. Depending on your constituency, you might not even make it to the next election, as we saw with the recall elections after Sandy Hook. Even Obama avoided saying anything after Aurora in 2012, likely for the same reason.

I'm *hoping* Clinton is going to try and do something else her first term that she'll try and market as a bipartisan positive in 2020 (in this case, it'll probably be avoiding a looming Obamacare disaster or playing a Dubya "don't change horses midstream" card after she gets us involved in Syria). Gun control is not one such issue.

>>31663874
Congress means jack shit when she stacks the Supreme Court. besides, Hilldog is just as much of a warmonger as trump could ever be.

>>31663939
>Hilldog is just as much of a warmonger as trump could ever be.
Moreso

Trumps foreign policy leans much more towards non interventionism

The clintons are bank owned warhawks

>>31663874
You think Trump's stupid Hooverite trade policies are even comparable to Hillary blaming everything on Russia?

Not to mention China already has nukes you utter fucking retard.

>>31663874
If she's in the war room, it's an arms race with the chinks AND the Ivans, she thinks she's got something to prove and will gladly get young americans killed if it means trying to prove it

Jesus your all a bunch of sad defeatists! Get out and vote Trump! Stop saying 'oh I hope everything's alright, I guess some rights will be striped' fucking stand up and fight for the US

>>31663868
>every fucking day i see a killary "i support children" ad
lel, i know these are supposed to be as untruthful as possible, but i didn't think it was that easy to get evidence.

>>31663969
As far as trade goes, Hillary supporting the Trans-Pacific Partnership is just fucking scary. Have any of you actually READ that shit? Bye-bye freedoms if that happens.

>>31663874
There has yet to be a conflict Hillary hasn't loved. Given the choice between a man who has been doing business and negociations all his life, and a politician who has been warmongering for most of her career, I'm going with the businessman

>>31664022
Oh she's even worse on it than he is, I'm just saying Hoover tried the same things Trump wants and we all know what he's remembered for.

>>31664038
Are we going to blame depression 2.0 on Trump when the fed hikes interest rates and the economy implodes?

>>31664038
A dam.

>>31664081
The media will. As soon as the Fed stops holding the interest rate down the stock market will collapse and Trump will be blamed if he wins, Hillary won't if she does.

I know the Great Depression wasn't all Hoover's fault, but taxing the American consumer by putting huge taxes on cheap foreign goods doesn't help things.

>>31664120
Damn, caught me.

>>31663874
>I would prefer her in the war room.
Why the fuck would you want that? The insane cunt is one of the most blatant warmongering sociopaths in our government.
>I don't want Chinks to have nukes.
Well there you have it, undecided voters really are mouth-breathing dumbasses.

Trump is gonna take this ez
These polls are so bullshit, the media has thrown out all impartiality

Look at early voting in florida, more republicans than dems requested ballots. And that's not counting the independents whom Trump wins with double digits.

>>31662474
>I've been saying this since 2008. The Republicans will never win a national race EVER again. I'm serious. The demographic changes alone will prevent it.
What if Trump somehow gets in and sends them all back, can we manage then?

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>>31661320
>tfw I don't have anything to lose
I'll die in a shootout with the confiscation police. I don't want to live in a world where someone like pic related has their thoughts and opinions validated by the president.

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>>31661467
>which I think is somewhat reasonable

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>>31661320

The President can't pass laws chief.

If she gets control of the senate and congress, then I'll panic.

>>31663460
>Some of us work for or have family that work for the government.
Get a real job and stop taking from others. Stop being part of the problem!

>>31664337
>what is the supreme court

>>31664337
>people still ignoring the dead and retiring supreme court

It's literally like you people ignore the things that get posted in every single one of these threads.

>>31664303
Gonna need to send back the anchor babies too
And encourage domestic white population growth

Hopefully these cucks don't actually make abortion illegal because thats mostly a shitskin pasttime

>>31663559
>I don't agree with anything that puts anybody out of work. There needs to be a better solution.
No way you are white.

>>31663559
Yeah, and the House keeps trying to get them passed, but the senate either votes it down hard or Obama rejects it, even when the House makes far too many concessions. That had been going on for the first 6 years of the Obama presidency before an actual budget was passed.

>>31661362
I would be ok with background checks at gun shows IF they opened up NIBS to EVERYONE so i could sell my guns (I only sell to dealers because i am NOT going to fucking jail in came some idiot shoots someone or buys and I 'should have known he was a felon'.

(and open up NFA items)

>>31664365
Either half of /k/ is retarded or we are legitimately being invaded by CTR types.

>>31661717
literally ANYONE could have beat hilog. Kasich would have her killed, even Ted (the king of Cucks) Cruz would have not been as massive as a blowout (though I still think Cruz would have lost because he's supeeerr jesus), like Rubio would win Florida and Ohio, hold the line and win that way, I could see Kascic doing that AND gaining Virginia via winning Hampton Roads AND NOVA

>>31664504
Background checks are already done at gun shows. This is a meme spouted by the ignorant to just create more damning laws that do nothing or making gifting weapons to friends and family members a bigger PITA than it is already.

>>31664535
It's the latter.

>>31664543
Thank you for correcting the record

I love how much Americans complain about Hillary and Trump when they're the idiots that voted for the two nominees.

>>31664337
Why is a university system giving money away?

>>31664675
because believe it or not, Universities are fucking rich. especially yuppie ones.

>>31664662
I don't have a meme arrow big enough for this.

Clinton stole the Democratic nomination from that whackjob Sanders because of corruption and how the democratic primaries are designed to let whoever the party wants to win, win.

Trump only got about a third of the GOP primary vote if I remember correctly. It's just the field was so fucking big that was enough for him to win.

In total when combining both parties, slightly less than a quarter of the primary votes went to Clinton, about about 15% went to Trump.

And those numbers don't even take into account that not everyone voted in the primaries either, turnout for anything but the presidential vote is always low because people are lazy.

>>31664675
Universities depend on a government that'll write large sums of money to a group of kids with no collateral and poor credit, as that money directly gets funneled to the school. And because this can be exploited, school charge higher tuition because why the fuck not, and then the government write a bigger check.

>>31661320
>>>/pol/

Also, fuck every one of you panicky shitheels in here.

>>31662531
You wasted money on literally nothing then you fucking moron.

>>31664722
>>31664662
and if wikileaks is to be believed. Trump was propped up by the liberal media to make him the general election candidate.

Rand Paul was deemed to be the most dangerous to the Hillary campaign.

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>>31661320

How the fuck is /k/ not rallied behind Johnson, instead of Trump? as far as guns go:

>Johnson opposes federal and state gun control legislation, saying: "I'm a firm believer in the Second Amendment and so I would not have signed legislation banning assault weapons or automatic weapons." Johnson says that the Second Amendment "was designed to protect us against a government that could be very intrusive. And in this country, we have a growing police state - if people can own assault rifles or automatic rifles, I think leads to a more civil government."[148] Johnson would, however, limit weapons such as rocket launchers.[148] Johnson believes that allowing concealed carrying of gun reduces crime and gun violence. He opposes barring gun sales to individuals on the no-fly list, because he claims that such lists have a high error rate. Johnson has called for a "thousand-person taskforce" or "hot line" to prevent terrorists from obtaining guns, and has questioned why the perpetrator of the Orlando nightclub shooting was not "deprived of his guns" after being interviewed three times.

>>31664751
No, that was Rubio.

>>31664722
Trump got the necessary amount of delegates needed before the primaries were over, along with so many republicans dropping out. Even by the time it was him vs. 3-4 others, he was wiping the floor with them

>>31664759
Because he is an open borders nutter with an antigun VP

>>31664751
He was, because they knew he'd have stupid shit like the "grab them in the pussy" in his past to attack. Theres literally a clinton email saying they needed him to win the primary so she'd win the presidency.

People are so fucking stupid though I doubt anybody other than a meme could have won the primary. I was a Cruz guy, but people want the memes so bad and the media would have attacked Cruz anyway I think it's hard to say how things would be going if he had won the nom. Maybe Trump has enough meme magic to pull it off, we'll see. I hope he does.

>>31664776
He only got a majority of the popular vote in like 16 states and 1 territory. That's historically low.

>>31664786

I get that his VP is antigun as fuck, but who gives a shit about a VP. Name the last time you heard Joe Biden do or say anything that mattered. As for the border thing, you gotta remember that just because a president wants a change to happen, doesn't mean it will. But they can still take the initiative to try and change it, whereas if nothing else we know Johnson WON'T take any initiative, like Obama did and Hillary will, to threaten our gun rights. It's removing a risk

>>31664759
Gary Johnson is a meme.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXhR41lsEJY

>>31664817
>like Obama did and Hillary will, to threaten our gun rights.

Throwing away swing state votes on third party loons nobody wants is more dangerous because it will put clinton in the white house.

>>31664807
>I was a Cruz guy, but people want the memes so bad
I don't even like Cruz, but I just want to say that whole "he's Canadian" thing was such bullshit that it should have gotten Trump laughed out of the primaries.

>>31664817
Except Obama hasn't taken any initiative to threaten our gun rights.

>>31664844
Johnson draws pretty much equally from people who would otherwise vote for Clinton or otherwise vote for Trump. Same exact story as Perot. Stein draws much more from Clinton. McMullin draws much more from Trump.

>>31664844
not if you're outside the swing states. Then it just adds to the 3rd party votes, making it more likely for them to be represented at debates and in election funding

>>31661538
Hey if you actually do it, can you make yourself useful and post it to youtube or liveleak saying why? Also pls dont do it with a gun. Actually at all. We love you anon.

>>31664866
The vote only matters for funding. It doesn't matter for debates. That's only polling.

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>>31664860
>Except Obama hasn't taken any initiative to threaten our gun rights.
how much does CTR pay you?

>>31664862
Mcmullin is going to give Clinton the presidency.

We should go on a crusade against mormons

>>31664866
This is fine, hopefully the libertarians don't give us such a cancerous candidate next cycle.

I quite liked peterson

>>31664850
So was the 9/11 comment thing, and the thing about his wife, and the bs about his dad killing JFK.

But here we are, and here I am doorknocking for Trump. Hillary is that fucking bad.

>>31664862
>McMullin
Who the fuck is he? I know about Stein and Johnson, but never heard of this guy

>>31664886
McMullin has no effect on the election at all outside of Utah, which in turn doesn't matter either.

>>31664759
>How the fuck is /k/ not rallied behind Johnson, instead of Trump?
Ooh ooh, I know!
>Muh open borders
>Endorses BLM
>Gets triggered like a Tumblrite over the mere mention of the term "illegal immigrant"
>Wants to castrate American jobs because lolletallthosebrownpeoplein
>Has an anti-gun VP
>Stated he would sign TPP
Fuck Johnson, fuck the Libertarian Party for this joke of a ticket they presented in an election that should have been theirs to win, and fuck you.

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>>31664886
>hopefully the libertarians don't give us such a cancerous candidate next cycle.
as much good as I think a 3rd party directly competing with the current 2 would do, that ship sailed with Ron Paul retiring

>>31664860

Were you living in the US, or did you have access to the internet, after Sandy Hook?

>>31661367
stop believing the meme m8, it's not going to happen but cuckifornians who vote like cuckifornians definitely need to GTFO

>>31664916
Name the things that were implemented at the federal level that restricted gun rights after that. Betting you can't because they were taken at the state level.

>>31664912
The Lib Party deserves to fucking die after this abominable farce.

>>31664904
>McMullin has no effect on the election at all outside of Utah

>eating otherwise republican votes and giving hillary Utahs electoral votes

>>31664912
And then he went and endorsed the greens of all people.

>>31664807
Rand is a huge fucking nerd for politics. He would have schooled Hillary in the debates. He is young and charismatic also. The worst they could bring up against him, was him making his own eye surgery certification board. Which he can explain. The existing kentucky board closed off certifications to protect the existing member's profits. Then Rand goes on about how he has spent his life doing charity eye surgery in the poorest parts of america and foreign countries.

>>31664938
political parties in general are cancer. Libertarians aren't the worst of them.
What we need to do is develop an AI for government, and get people out of it.

>>31664939
You're dumb as fuck and don't understand the electoral college. There is a 0% chance of Utah's electoral votes being the difference maker. The currently polling gap between Trump and Clinton in most swing states is far, far, far too big for McMullin to swing either way.

>>31664944
I do hope Rand does try again in the future. He was my first pick, but he dropped out too early.

Hopefully he picks up some skills that'll allow him to better campaign next go

>>31664904
Trump needs every electoral vote. Mormons are voting against their republican interests, to virtue signal over trump's potty mouth.

i hope Utah gets flooded with mexican catholics and muslims rapefugees. who then use the federal government to destroy the mormon church and all their religious laws in utah.

>>31664962
> still has no fucking idea how the electoral college works
Go away.

>>31664954
Rand just needed the money and learn how to counter tv news media bias.

If Jeb had thrown his money behind Rand months before the Iowa vote. Rand would have stood a chance.

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>>31664949
>What we need to do is develop an AI for government, and get people out of it.

>>31664972
Utah has 6 electoral votes. All hillary needs is more votes than trump or McCucklin. Trump can't lose a single reliable red state.

2bh having a personal crisis over this election. What's the chance hilldog will first term-it and wont so shit until reelection?

>>31664912
Fucking lol'd at the pic.

>>31664944
I would have absolutely loved Rand to get the nom. What I was saying is he's unfortunately not what the people wanted. People don't want the choice that makes sense. They want the meme candidate. Now unfortunately we have to go with it.

>>31664999
Then you should be far more worried about Arizona, which Clinton has a better shot at winning and is worth 11 EVs to Utah's 6.

>>31661320

If the dems were to introduce an AWB
>would the industry say no it didn't work in 94-04, it will cost millions of jobs, and plus it's unconstitutional so don't do it
>would the batf go to every ffl to confiscate the guns?
>would the nra tell tje democrats that it's political suicide?
>would the batf even at all enforce it?

But honestly I'm not worried about it because that democrat sit in didn't do anything.

T. Democrat whose voting for hillary fr potus but for the third party for everything else

>>31665000
What?

>>31662433
It was Clinton herself who said the court was wrong on the 2A dumbshit. Not her advisor.

>>31663559
No, there is not a way to reduce the size of government without reducing the number of people employed by the government. That is literally what the size of the government means.

>>31665000
Given her personality, the only way she'd not try for a second term would be if she died. Also to note, once in, it is really hard for someone already elected to be removed, unless they were SO massively unpopular.

But given the state of things, she'd probably go for all 8 if elected this run

>>31665000
the votes aren't all still in and republicans have a habit of voting late, or so it's said

>>31665012
>hilldog wins
>stacks the supreme court
>doesnt' have to do shit cause they strike down everything good and prop up everything bad

it's clear you're an idiot for everything regardless.

>>31665000
You have to remember that demographically, it gets harder and harder for a generic Republican to win the Presidency with every passing election. That's going to be doubly true with the just-beginning Republican civil war.

>>31665038
they don't have to be directly impeached, they can be "convinced to resign" like nixon if enough of her dirty laundry is left out to dry for all to see

>>31665051
That's because most republicans also work for a living and have to vote when work is out or during lunch

>>31664786
you know that net immigration to the US has been negative for the last several years, don't you?

More illegals are leaving than coming in.

You dumb fuck.

>>31665065
With all of Clinton's skeletons being tossed out of the closet, and piles of dirty laundry building up, Hillary would have to kill a small child on TV and consume it for people to have second thoughts. Even then, I have my biggest doubts

>>31665000
hillary will drop some executive orders and ATF rule changes in the first year. Just to make the Republicans toe the line. Expect it to be all over If Democrat House and Senate though.

Republicans will need to become Democrat lite, but still somehow opposition, to unseat her in 2020. They'll have to completely disown Trump and yet still get his die hard supporters to show.
which means it is basically impossible.

Hillary will then, if she hasn't gutted the 2a already, wait till lame duck in year 7 and 8 to drop more ATF rule changes and EOs.

Also expect a lot of anti gun groups to start court actions against the federal government. that will try to win anti gun rulings. hillary can tell her DOJ lawyer on the case to lose it on purpose.

>>31665066
That wasn't meant as a jab

dubs confirm

>>31665092
I thought so, just adding an explanation.

>>31665081
Let me guess, they just ask Mexicans if they're illegal, right? they give them little fliers and ask if their driving was good and if they liked the food too, eh?

you're a fucking moron

>>31665084
It's not that simple. Dems need more than a very slight majority in both Houses because contrary to popular (and retarded) belief, there are a notable number of Dems from areas with less strict gun laws and they themselves are okay with said laws.

>>31662196
The republic is literally staffed by cali cucks. It's a complete joke and has barely stayed in business for the past 10 years. It's days are numbered.

>>31664934
He wnated an AWB you fucking idiot. He just couldn't get it passed.

>>31665133
Kill yourself nigger. It's a documented fact that net migration between Mexico and the US has been damn near 0 for several years. More Asians enter the country every year than do Hispanics from all of Latin America COMBINED. Read a fucking book.

>>31665145
Good job you dumb fucking piece of shit. You literally just admitted to being wrong. Christ.

Again, name one damn thing that was implemented on the federal level. Spoiler: you can't.

>>31665134
Clinton Machine will make it suicide for a Democrat to go against her. They'll be replace in the primary by a candidate that outspent them by a ridiculous amount.