Battle Rifle General /brg/

>>31628770
What cheek saddle?

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>>31628770
Is that a PA optic? How's it hold up to the recoil?

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>>31628794
It's one I bought for my Enfields; sorry, can't remember where.

>>31628873
>Is that a PA optic?
Lucid P7
>How's it hold up to the recoil?
Can't say; only 100 rounds so far.

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>>31628978
All the kids are doing it.

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>>31629006
Yah.

>>31629006
You can get different stock sets for dirt cheap if you don't like what you get

>>31629082
>dirt cheap
>G3A2 wood
Not anymore fåm.

>>31628617
This is a public service announcement: https://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/mag-h-and-k-g3-762x51mm-steel-20-round-military-surplus-made-in-germany-used-condition-grade-ii-mag-303.do back in stock

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>>31628992

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>>31628978
>You don't have to wear short shorts...
>but you'll want to

>>31629145
nah you're looking for the ARG thread.

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>>31629166
>nah

>>31629145
>I've jerked off to trap porn before.

And?
Is that supposed to make you special?

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>>31628617
Fuck you, garand is /brg/

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the anti-communist pumpkin bars look like they turned out alright, thx baking anon

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>>31629145
sa/k/uya might be a trap. I think he's just a crossdresser though.

>>31629177
You need to confirm it is a trap first mate.

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>>31628978
avoid something shit like a g3 clone

webm related

>>31628992
the poor kids

>>31629060
i got that though

>>31629113
dont buy from cheaper than dirt you cuck

>>31629177
just look how much that rail sticks out thats why its fucking ugly even with a scope there are no aesthetics to a an hk clone if you have the rail end of story

>>31629201
no its not get an m1a and stop being retarded

>>31629315
get a not shit stock

>>31629355
im not neither is d60 hes just more manlet and not fat

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>>31629392
Why would I get a shitty M1A when my Garand has history and any other battle rifle can BTFO an M1A?

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>>31629392
McMillan doesn't make the one I want anymore so it's staying in this one, besides it's going to get drilled for a kydex cheek riser

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For those of you who always ask about >>31629116's furniture, here's a handguard for sale:
http://www.akfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=282044

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>>31629698
There's two up for sale on gunbroker. One if $115 and the other is $120. The stock is what's really the bitch to find.

>>31629413
Because the history is good only for grandpa feels

>>31628873
Have a PA 5x on mine right now. really fucking tighten those screws but its beaten itself out of zero 3 times now
>>31629113
>CTD
>ever

>>31629745
Maybe I like my grandpa feels...

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>>31629743
I don't even have a PTR and I'm tempted to buy it just because it's neat and I have a hard on for southern African military stuff.

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>>31629807
Yeah, I got my handguard a few months before I got my PTR. Seeing those pictures of an HK91 in the woods with the south african furniture is what convinced me to get a PTR in the first place.

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>>31629769
Pa and vortex are junk but yeah serious note CTD are cuck tier never buy from them anyone

>>31629783
stop shilling hikock

>>31629914
i bought mine for aesthetics too i genuinely hate the rifle like the mosins i own due to poorfags trying to polish turds into gold

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>>31629392

>average_ptr.webm
>not even a goddamn ptr
>receiver looks like a cut-up FA one

what is the shelf for, the webm.

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>>31628617
But they are and SCAR a shit

What the fuck is with people trying to sell steel case .308 for 50-60 cpr? Like nigger I could buy good brass for that price, I BUY STEEL BECAUSE IT'S ONLY 35 CPR

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>>31629315
>anti-communist pumpkin bars
I forgot about that. Good on you m8.

>>31630314
Objectively they are the pinnacle of BR technology

>>31628617
DSG arms has MWS in stock

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>>31628617
built an AR-10

r8 me m8s

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>>31630736

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>>31630736
>>31630748
Wrong handguard. Wrong barrel. Wrong upper. Wrong lower. Wrong stock. Wrong muzzle device. Wrong internal parts.
>r8
Wrong/right.

>>31630748
Looks like a decent budget build, what barrel and what trigger?

>>31630768
But that one is ugly

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>>31630790
>But that one is ugly
But that one is an AR10.

>>31630773
has a faxon barrel, 18 inchs.

trigger is just some mil spec stuff

it was a $1700 build though

>Century quality

https://imgur.com/gallery/OECCd

>>31630970
What receiver set?
And $1700 with no CH?

>>31631025
there is a charging handle, the pic with the chair just didnt have it in because i was still ordering it.

next level armament receiver set

I wish i had pictures of my stuff. FAL and G3 builds soon

>>31628915
>>31628992
My ar is running based lucid and m90 camo

>>31631037
What optic you going with?

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How do I into budget lightweight AR10 without going DPMS?

I like the Windham 16" option.

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>>31631225
>How do I into budget lightweight AR10 without going DPMS?
Build it yourself.

>>31631238
What's the best option for an affordable receiver set and BCG using a standard pattern?

>>31630613
>mine looks retarded compared to yours
kek I'm not good at culinary things but I do have a strong dislike toward commies and tis the time of year to remind ourselves what separates us from the Godless commies

>>31631298
Bcg and barrel headspacing, go DPMS
For receivers go KAC pattern for swank, DPMS for budget

>>31631225
Don't get a 16 in

Get an 18 or 20 fo powa nigga

>>31631544
>Going .308 for power and not 6.5 creedmoor....

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>>31631573
>6.5 mememoore
>not fuddy ought six

Where's the best place to get a small amount of cheap .308? I just want like 200 for a function test and taking a buddy out

>>31631298

Mega maten builds are pretty good and I use the KAK double extractor BCG.

>>31631592
>'06
Garand isnt a battle rifle though.

>>31631680
But it is :^)

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>>31631757

Is $600 a good price for an L1A1 kit these days?

>>31631882
Yes

>>31631645
http://sgammo.com/product/308-win-762x51-ammo/20-round-box-308-win-148-grain-fmj-german-military-surplus-ammo-am2030-r

Buy 10

>>31629432
Oh man Tojo must be seppukuing in his grave

43cpr after shipping is pretty good for some Tula .308 at this point ain't it?

>>31632245
Depends how many rounds.
Your almost basically at German surplus prices, decidedly better ammo

>>31632323
220, I've got 100 bucks to spare and local .308 is retard price, almost like 13-14 a box for just Tula here

>>31632228
Whata that threaded onto your lucid? Did they come out with a new magnifier?

>>31632340
$123.45 shipped for 11 boxes of that German stuff from sgammo.

Depends what your going for. You can get 40 more rounds of the steel shit, but it's not going to be as accurate.

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>>31631592
>implying 54r isn't the superior round

>>31632396
Eh, I'm not concerned about accuracy right now. I just found an extra 100 bucks so I wanna have enough .308 to go to the range and just fuck with the new gun while a buddy of mine fucks with his new gun, and then I can keep a little bit of ammo at home for just in case. I really need to buy more mags before I buy too much ammo, and finish how I want to build the gun before I worry about good quality ammo. Plus if I manage to not buy anymore ammo before the election and the worst happens I'll still have between 100-150 rounds of .308 to get me somewhere at least

>>31632431
>implying that rimjob round is any good
Slavaboo the superior technology are talking

>>31632517
>superior
>using a round that wasn't designed to kill a horse at 1000 yards
Choose one.

>>31631114
leupold mark 4

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>>31632380
>Did they come out with a new magnifier?
Yeah, a built-in 4x magnifier.

Whats are the three best .308 AR upper and lowers to start a builed. Looking for a battle rifle build.

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Are G3s with a top rail good for optics? or is an ak style mount better

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>>31633103

It's works just fine, the claw mount is actually a bit too high

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>>31633103
>an ak style mount better
How would that even work on a G3?

>>31628873
>>31633130
like this

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>>31633103
Top rail is fine but looks kinda ugly. I wasn't aware the was an AK style mount for G3s. I'm not even sure how that would work.

>>31633230
>>31633183
>>31633150
I think he is mistaking AK style for claw

>>31633240
I didnt know its name so I just said ak style

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>2016
>not having the best battle rifles

>>31632774
Mega Maten is one. Maybe the Rainier Ultramatch billet? Not sure.

But it sounds like you're aware that you should buy a combo from the same people, to ensure compatibility and a tight fit.

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>>31628617
Hey, so I've heard this is the place to get info for 7.62x51 rifles.

I'm looking to build my first AR in 7.62. Whats a good upper and lower that won't break the bank but will still be pretty good quality?

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Do people even read threads anymore?

>>31633321
>fal
>best

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>>31631882
double yes

>>31631951
buy it by the case

>>31632340
stop being poor and buy brass

>>31632648
good

>>31633732
mega matten

>>31634113
you could go two dicks but just save for a mega maten friendo and have options

remember ar10s have multiple sub patterns unlike the ar15 shit form different manufacturers doesnt usually work together

>>31634159
yes, sell me that raifu

>>31635754
favorite yes, best scar 17

>>31634159

I didn't realize that I wanted a retro AR-10 until now.

>>31634113
You chose the worst time imaginable to get in on the .308 AR game. There are few sets available anywhere, so currently, its whatever you can get your hands on.

Though you should realistically just save up for a DD, LMT, KAC, GAP, LaRue

>>31632719
Oh shit thats dope! Im running the flip to side 2-5x magnifier right now because the screw on 2x one sucks.

>>31635801
Fuck off tranny, sick of you cunts trying to push your bullshit on this board

>>31636200
(You)
Post battle rifle faggot

>>31636228
That isn't bait, /k/ isn't a board full of trannies and tranny livers but you mentally ill fucks push that meme like it's the majority.

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>>31636238
>like it's the majority.
Majority of people who post their battle rifles, that's for sure.

Why would I need a "battle rifle" when 556 is the round of THE CONSTITUTION?

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>>31636238
Why not be an adult and ignore it?

>>31629177
Oh hey geo long time no see thought we left ya in the woods though

>>31630808
nice of them to include rubber gloves and tissues so you can clean up the mess you made when you saw the AR10

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>>31636238
>/k/ isn't a board full of tranny lovers

I got bad news for you freind

>>31628617
Just found an LMT MWS, used, $2400.
Got that on order, just need to get my noveske creedmoor barrel modded for LMT use....

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>>31629315
Where did you get that stock anon?

>>31636238
>on the chan
>expects something other than degeneracy
>maintains a moral highground in the abyss of humanity

what are you doing here?

>>31636297
Better effective range for when the happening happens. Also better for killing game animals like deer, or really anything in North America.

>>31637903
I think he's shitposting.

>>31631680
>Battle rifle is a term used to describe a military service rifle that fires a full-power rifle cartridge, such as 7.62×51mm NATO or 7.62×54mmR.
>This term also describes older military full-powered semi-automatic rifles such as the M1 Garand, the MAS-49 and the FN-49.[2][3]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_rifle

Blow me

>>31637929
The Le /pol/ maymays are tired.
But even /arg/ has trannies now

>>31634113
I'd say wait to the end of the election; prices are high right now due to panic buys.

No matter who gets elected, it's unlikely that any anti gun laws will be passed in the next two years. King nigger was in office for 8 and he didn't get anything passed.

>>31637994
He let Korean 1911s in

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>>31629392
>tripfag telling someone to stop being retarded
The irony

>>31638018
But he's right though

>>31637571
it's the Springfield Armory fiberglass stock that comes with their NM and loaded models

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Hold the phone.....

20rnd mag size
8mm
Soft Recoiling

Best Rifle right here

>>31638507
8mm FAL?

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>>31639028
What? No; he's talking about Fuji-cakes here.

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>>31629028
Needs a hensoldt senpai

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>>31639328
Needs some 7.62 fåm.

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>>31639372
Maybe some day. It's looking doubtful.

>>31628617
What is the rifle on the right? Looks like fal but smells like handguard is sexy.

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>>31639440
It's FAL.

>>31639440
It's an FAL with an uggo handguard and dust cover.

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>>31639573
>Vltor
>Uggo
Faggot

Alright, we al know the FAL is the best battle rifle, but which FAL is best FAL ? Barring Belgian of course.
>stg 58
>Israeli
>DSA
>something else ? Pls tell me

>>31640003
50.63

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>>31640003

>best BR
>fails mud test against a century arms cetme abomination

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>>31640003
SCAR is best battle rifle

>>31639372

Sweet mother of fuck I want to do this but with a comp m4s.

>>31640062
Isn't the SCAR just a fancier FAL? They use the same action IIRC.

>>31640119

Not even close to being the same action. The only thing those two weapons have in common is the same manufacturer and magazine body.

>>31628617

Is there any way to get a real HK G3 in the United States without paying too much?

>>31640152
Magazine base plate is interchangeable too!

The SCAR is the pinnacle of today's rifle technology

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>>31640211

Pinnacle of plastic Popsicle technology

Why shouldn't I get a ptr91 GI R?

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>>31640224
Because it looks better without the rail.

>>31640175
no

>>31640252

That's dumb and gay. Now I will never want a G3 :(

>>31640267
Honestly, the PTRs are fine.
100% parts interchangeable with H&Ks
PLUS they are built on freedom. The company abandoned Connecticut when they went full retard on gun laws. Even paid to have their workers relocate to a free state if they wanted.

>>31640378
>>31640244

What's a good price on the gi?

>>31640378

Honestly the move to South Carolina was the best thing they did, it gave them time off production to introduce much needed upgrades like the paddle mag release, and the top rails. I have seen more people come out with PTR's since those changes were made

>>31640392
900 bucks

>>31640392
~899 new.
For a grand you can get the rifle, a dozen mags and enough ammo to fill them

>>31640222
Literally who?

>>31640438
A dozen boxes of ammo is going to be like $100 for the cheap steel shit, still not including shipping/FFL or tax.

It's cheap but not that cheap

>>31640518

http://sgammo.com/catalog/rifle-ammo-sale/308-win-762x51-ammo

You're welcome

>>31640539
Cheapest shit is $8 per box
8x12=96 plus shipping
No already over $100, no mags bought.

Did you drop out in the third grade?

>>31640438

>>31640518

change "dozen" to "half dozen" and the problem is solved.

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>>31640594

Its cheap for .308

If you want to be REALLY cheap, get a PTR-32, its the same rifle but fired 7.62x39 and takes AK mags

>>31640637
If you want cheap you get an AR......

>>31640539

So if Golden Tiger is considered /akg/'s standby, Wolf Gold is /arg/'s standby, what is /brg/'s main stock-up ammo?

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>>31640518
>>31640594
>>31640619
He didn't say it had to be .308. :^)

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>>31640693

All stamped guns should be sub-1k imho.

>>31640694
Cheapo M80, mostly the same shit

>>31640694
German surplus for now

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>>31636200
>>31636238
same not a tranny though

>>31636359
that rail ruins your aesthetics hardcore

>>31638018
its coincidence not irony

>>31639028
they exist

>>31640003
stg

>>31640119
the scar is the best rifle full stop ever made

>>31640175
again no

>>31640224
this right here>>31640244

>>31640392
check slickguns

>>31640699
i laughed because i did this before to show people how small 556 actually is

>>31629392
Huh, never realised the average ptr wasn't a ptr.

>>31640378
>paid workers to move to a free state
I have such a freedom boner that I'm going to buy one in Nov now.

>>31640809
Arguable. Maybe best battle rifle.

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>>31640809
>the scar is the best rifle full stop ever made

Why? It's just an AR-10 with a left mounted charging handle and a short stroke gas system.

Where the fuck can I buy an FAL stock screw? Not the one for the buttplate but for the actual mount near the pistol grip

>>31641022
you try Numrich?

>>31641110
Only plate screws, it seems like no one has only the screw for sale without the stock unfortunately. It's sturdy on there but I feel weird without the extra screw in

>>31641010
But it's not

>>31641129
https://www.gunpartscorp.com/Manufacturers/FALMetric-36265/PartsList-43745.htm?page=2

Part 36?

>>31641402
It would look like it but the actual item listed as 36 is a buttplate screw and long as fuck, . The one that was originally with my PRS2 was short as fuck but I'm pretty sure it was the wrong screw

>>31640021
>mud
>anywhere in southern Arizona

That shits small rocks that don't like to be crushed dude, and any retard who piles mud on their shit deserves to have it fail

After scanning this thread, IS ar-15 not considered a battle rifle? or is it not discussed because it has it's own thread?

>>31641621
Yes.

It has an intermediate cartridge, therefor not a battle rifle. Other than being semi-auto, all other qualities are arguable.

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>>31641716
>x39

>>31641457
http://shop.ernstarmory.com/product.sc?productId=245

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So update on the sig716 short-stroke situation. Reading the stuff online for this puppy is damn near impossible. There seems to be conflicting information on swapping out the carbine buffer for the rifle buffer and what weight and spring it needs. I'm getting everything from cutting springs to finding silicone buffer tube spacers and shoving them in there and simply putting hte carbine spring/buffer back in to fit the PRS tube/stock.


I'm almost halfway tempted to use my optics planet gift card and just splurge on a JP Silent Captured Spring with all of its adjustable weights and doodads and configure from there, but I'm not sure. At least it would allow me to quickly swap parts and springs with relatively few tools at the range.

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>>31641753

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>>31641765
Glad to help

>>31641760
Try calling SIG?

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>>31641776
They also have top covers for half the price of Apex, even if they're new production. Now my FAL doesn't have to look so retarded unless the HK top covers are as glossy as they look in the pictures. Exciting day

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>>31640809
I know :(

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>>31641966

Don't say I never warned you.

>>31641760
Sell the SIG and acquire full JP rifle
>It comes with the Silent Buffer anyways.

>>31642019
This is what based PMM qd cups are for

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>>31641966
What sling are you using there friendo?

>>31642102
>PMM
>not KDG
>not BFG UWL
>not just using a zip tie or loop of 550 cord

I don't like bolting anything on to my weapons that isn't necessary, and when I do I'd prefer things to at least be aesthetic which the PMM certainly are not.

>>31641361

Okay, so it has a weird boot stock and some angryrails too.

>>31642210
Sling cup aesthetics?
Put a sling in it and you wont see it.

Using 550 cord is asking for a failure. The BFG wire points are a good workaround.

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>>31640809

>that rail ruins your aesthetics hardcore

Makes mounting optics less of a pain in the ass tho, what with not having to fiddle with any weird clamps.

>>31642259
The only thing the AR rifle and SCAR have in common is caliber, pistol grips (even then...), And magazines in mouse gun calibers.

Well I suppose the rear QD sight could go on an AR too

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>>31642190
Idk some sling a guy at a gunshow gave me for beating him in tic tac toe, I just took it off tho cuz of this
>>31642019

>>31642278

550 cord has been in use for various things long before QD cups were a thing and joes will still be using it long after QD cups are gone.

Was directed here from another thread, but was wondering what battle rifles would work well as a DMR? If there are multiple ones, what are the pros and cons?

>>31642487
And it will still wear out and fail when you need it most. Silly to use a field expident solution when not in the field. Purpose built solutions exist, are not expensive, and simple to implement.

>>31642532
Literally all of them. Some models might need accurizing to get under 2 moa, but literally every major battle rifle has DMR variants

>>31642532
SCAR or 308/6.5 AR. Suppose the M1A could work too.

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>>31642305

And the lower too. I mean come on, minus the buffer tube, the lower receiver is basically an AR-10 lower with an ambidextrous fire selector.

>>31642588
Didn't know SCARs were Canadian

>>31642549
>550
>wear out

TOP LEL. When that happens sometime in the next 300 years I'll be sure to cut another few inches off the 500' spool I've got laying around. Stay mad that something so simple works so elegantly compared to those ugly tumors bolted on to your gun.

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I've been thinking of building an AR-10 in 6.5 Creedmoor. Anyone have a lot of experience shooting this round out of a semi-auto? I read that throat erosion is a problem with this cartridge and that it has noticeable negative effects on precision after as few as 1000 rounds. Can anyone confirm this?

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>>31642752
6.5 Creedmoor owner here in a Mega Maten receiver set. You would be hard pressed to burn out a barrel in 1000 rounds unless you did magdump after magdump like a retard. So far I've used mine in nothing but PRS matches (with shot strings as high as 15 per stage) and I am shooting 1/2 moa or better with 650 rounds through it with my handloads.

A 6mm creedmoor will burn through a barrel in 1200-1500 rounds (unless you chase the lands, in which case you can get a few hundred more rounds) but a semi in 6.5 creedmoor should be able to get 2300- 2500 rounds.

>>31642752
I have. Most throat erosion claims are fuddlore. No, the barrel will not last as long as .308 all other things being equal.

1000 rounds? That's a bit much

>>31642853
Berger or Sierra?

>>31642902
Been using Sierra 123 SMK and Hornady 123gr AMAX. Sierra's give better results so far.

>>31642853
Nice. Good information - I appreciate it. Do you have any recommendations on high performance barrels?

>>31642992
I personally use a JP rifles barrel because it came with a "High pressure bolt" with a small firing pin to prevent piercing primers, but you can buy AR10 barrels from Criterion, Kreiger, Proof, Lilja and all the other big name makers.

>>31643068
I went Noveske
Need to get the new one modded to fit an LMT now

>>31643331
I would love to use Noveske and would if they built on a DPMS pattern. Too bad they built on the Armalite pattern when everyone else uses DPMS pattern.

>>31641776
Yeah I'll have to call em tomorrow. :( They don't have an email customer service option.

>>31641605
>being an attention-whoring tripfag
>5.56x51 in a battle rifle thread
>I live in an area that is 100% gravel and never, ever rains

kys

>>31640699
i've been wondering if i'm the only one who does this

i have a STANAG loaded with 5.45 right now, can't get all 30 in there though, just 29

Is there any way I could get an SG 510 in the US?

Preferably not in Swiss snowflake?

>>31643503
It's just a bcg away

>>31646051
$4000

>>31634159
Muh dick

>>31642613
Kek

>>31646168
Took me a second

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>>31647489
You can tell riiight where the money ran out on that one.

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>>31647542
He could have gotten a cheaper mount, but yeah, clearly shy of ACOG territory

>>31648722
>Flat Dork Earth

whats a decent rail for a dpms low pattern 308AR that doesnt cost a fuck ton of money?

>>31648786
Fifty shades on brown baby

I don't have a battle rifle yet and I'm considering trying to buy one before election day so I don't get completely fucked. Right now I'm looking at a toss-up between the PTR-91 A3R from Atlantic (http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/component/virtuemart/shipping-rifles/ptr-91-a3r-308-rifle-detail.html?Itemid=0), or just buying an Aero A5 lower and building it up when I have the time. I'd really like a FAL or a SCAR-17S as well, but I don't have the money for those and magazine prices are going to only get higher for them as well, whereas G3 and .308 PMAGs are still relatively inexpensive.

What do, /brg/?

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>>31649152
>election panic buy
PTR and a few dozen surplus magazines.

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>>31649152
If you like ARs and want another one, get the AR10. If you want something different get the PTR. The AR will be more customizable and you'll be able to get more out of it but I personally wanted something different. Definitely don't regret it, I find the PTR to be a lot more fun.

>>31649188
Well, it's not quite a panic buy yet; I just bought a PCC, another AR lower, a Glock, and finally got my AK build underway. If anything, *those* are the panic buys. A battle rifle is the last "big thing" on my list that'd be likely to get swatted, and even then I'm watching the Senate/House races much more closely than the presidential before I pull the trigger on it.

What's a good price for surplus G3 mags these days? When I was initially batting around the idea, I remembered seeing them for about $5/mag, compared to $15 or so for .308 PMAGs and $lods for SCAR-17S mags. Never really looked into FAL mag prices.

>>31649152
Anyone have an Aero A5 lower? I'm planning on getting one since my LGS stocks them

>>31649468

aero m5 is good stuff, there is a huge aero thread on arfcom if you need compatibility answers, but its pretty much just a dpms lr308 low pattern. the rails are nice. m5 rail is good for the money.

>>31649621
good to hear, I'll grab one once they restock it

>>31648918
MI

>>31649621
Except pins and springs breaking

>>31630808
Survival kit?

>>31649239
>What's a good price for surplus G3 mags these days?

About 3-5 or so dollars.

https://www.apexgunparts.com/heckler-koch.html

Here's some I'm looking at right now, for instance. $3.5 for the aluminum ones. I think I'll break for the 11 dollar vinyl pouch with 2 of them though. Seems cool.

>>31649798

didnt see much about that, but its an easy fix.

>>31650535
http://www.keepshooting.com/h-k-g3-20-round-magazine-aluminum.html

Better deal on the pouch + 2 mags.

>>31650614
It's not super prevalent, but the m5 sets small parts have a poor track record. Yes were talking about $5 worth of parts. Worth at least keeping spares in your range bag.

I just dont like the DPMS pattern receiver cuts or I would have jumpes last year when they were on a great sale. Aero is probably the price: performance sweet spot, mega or falkor/si-d being the boutique end.

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>>31650666
I got about 5 of those packs at some point. Would recommend. I've have good experiences with keepshooting.

>>31650684
sick resonator

Does anybody have a link for an OD green wide handguard for sale? I can only seem to find the black ones.

So I want to hate myself when I get my PTR and I'm going to order one of those A3 retractable stock because that and a b&t handguard get me hard as fuck. I know I'm making a mistake but I'm going to enjoy making it.

Other than mags and a clipped and pinned metal lower, what else should I pick up? I'm probably going to replace the bolt head and might swap the carrier too. If I feel like spending the money I'll replace the hammer and sear as well. Not a whole lot I can do about the barrel without spending way more than it's worth so I'll just shoot it out and worry about that later.

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Anyone have any experience with the C308?

I'm really eye'in that 700 dollar Battle Riafu.

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>>31651187

>>31651187
Save another $200 and get a PTR.

>>31651213
See, that's the video that has me concerned. But, he went on to say he could not replicate it and that overall, it was a pretty good rifle for the price.

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>>31651171
Bayonet.

>>31651187
I'm sure it'll be perfectly fine.

>>31651187

save the money and get a PTR.

look for a PTR on a-list or your local gun trader

>>31651241
I've looked...a lot.

There are no used PTR-91s on the market in practically the entire state. On top of that, anyone selling anything close to a .308 is asking absurdly stupid prices for their used gun.

I'm really not interested in a 7.62 AR platform either. A FAL or G3 clone is ultimately what I am after. But, those all push well past a grand. I've stopped even considering M1As as well.

>>31651338
>I'm really not interested in a 7.62 AR platform either. A FAL or G3 clone is ultimately what I am after. But, those all push well past a grand. I've stopped even considering M


i feel you. i have a 308ar and a NM m1a. 308 entry costs are pretty high. I have found good deals on FAL's in the past, texasguntrader will have them time to time.

>>31651360
The Utah equivilent is everyone just hocking their "Oh, it's never been fired (but really has 1000 rounds through it)" AR10s and 4 grand SCARs because 'upgrades!'

The used gun market blows.

>>31651382
fuuuuck that shit, i see it here too. just takes lots of patience, but it is election season :/

>>31651421
To add, one of the silly things about Utah is that if you don't have a CCWL, you pay an extra 'fee' from some FFLs to run the background check. I think it was like 15 extra on my SR1911. All in all it's not a big deal, especially as someone, such as I, who came from California. Just walking out the same day was the greatest joy in my life.

But, a lot of private sellers have taken it upon them selves to not do bill of sale, but to mimic the CCWL shit. They will refuse to sell to anyone that doesn't have one. It's not hard to get, it's just a pain in the ass that they'd rather be lazy than inclusive.

>>31651224
If your going for price: performance, an AR10 is hard to beat

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Does /k/ like XCR-M? I'm thinking about getting one.

>>31651816
If it didnt mean having to deal with robarm, Id consider it.

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I want to do a clone of this. I like the feel of ARs but I don't much care for .223/5.56mm, I already have AKs for intermediate rounds, and I have no need for .300 BLK. I see a lot of people saying that .308/7.62x51mm is wasted in a barrel shorter than 18" but I can really dig this carbine setup.

Any thoughts? How would I go about getting a config like this? Just get an AR-10 carbine and go from there?

>>31651891
those m14 mags tho lol

no thanks

>>31651891
If you want the old school converted M14 mags and A2 carry handle upper, yeah. Find an old Armalite for sale and go to town.

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>>31651915
Its not a bad system.

>>31651891
If you live in america it is your duty to have something in 5.56

>>31651915
are M14 mags a bad idea? Or is there an issue with the extended M14 mags? I like the style of the mags more than the regular AR-10 mags.

>>31651926
Any specific model I should be looking for? Or would I be fine if I just get whichever carbine model accepts M14 mags?

>>31651984
>I like the style of the mags more than the regular AR-10 mags

You have an odd sense of aesthetics then my man

>>31651984
Look for an AR-10b model.
You might be able to get a deal on one because many want the newer "a" model that take DPMS/KAC/Magpul mags and an A4 railed upper.

If you need an aftermarket barrel your options with keeping the same BCG is going to be some Rainier Arms, Noveske, and you hit up Armalite, Id stick with RA and Noveske personally, Armalite barrels are not very good generally.

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>>31651837
Sigh. It sucks that this is the main issue. A cool manufacturer should buy them.

>>31652066
If you want a notascar rifle you could also look at CZ. But it depends what your looking for.

>>31651816
Just looked around at them, and given that I have tiny hands, hearing that it's a thin rifle interests me. How is its MOA, and what size barrel works best? How different is the standard vs. mini?

Is it easy to find cheap 7.62 NATO? Never shot the round but i love the aesthetic of the FAL, and im debating on building one when im out of college or buying a g3/g3 clone. Also, what are good ways to find wood furniture for rifles?

>>31652379
http://sgammo.com/product/308-win-762x51-ammo/20-round-box-308-win-148-grain-fmj-german-military-surplus-ammo-am2030-r

look for milsurp wood for your rifle. If you dont mind refinishing, you can get some slightly abused stuff pretty cheap in many cases.

>>31652404
Is it feasable to do myself?

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>>31652439
Fairly straightforward, there are plenty of websites, blogs, and youtubes out there about it. Ask on /k/ for assistance too.

You could also start off with Ironwood designs, but that shit aint cheap, but holy fuck is it gorgeous.

>>31652472
Ill check it out, thanks. Dont really give a shit on price, trying to build a battle raifu to last me a long time

>>31652345
Accuracy is not better than AR10 or SCAR, but seems better than FAL or Standard M1a. I read that the keymod versions are better than the first iteration (they fixed some gas block tolerances or something) Dunno what size barrel works best for accuracy I'd guess one of the longer ones. The standard is 18.6", and the mini is 16". The gas systems are different lengths, but they can both take a variety of bbl lengths.

>>31652506
Also try looking at different countries variants, see what makes your dick the hardest. Then look on retailers websites and forums for people selling them also works.

>>31652545
If it's SCAR or AR10 good, that's pretty good. Thanks, I'll be keeping my eye out on them until I secure enough funds.

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>>31652652
As another poster mentioned, the company has a reputation of not being the friendliest to customers, so it seems best to work through a dealer. I will buy either an XCR or a SCAR myself. Neither are cheap, or perfect, but i want something nicer than my PTR:)

>>31653024
Only problem with that is if you need warranty repairs. Which, at least in the past, was more likely than that some of the competition.

>>31630283
or a c308

Is 680$ for a Century Arms .308 a good deal? Comes with 9 mags and is used.

>>31651498
Some people just don't private sale to people without CCWL's.

Every private sale I went through this way I asked them why they do it.

They all pretty much say that having a ccw license means you passed a background check and they are legally in the clear selling a gun to someone they don't even know due to the extensive background check required to obtain one.

>>31653723
Ive never been asked for an chl
But I normally deal with rifles

>>31653595
Check the bolt gap
Check the bore
If both those check out, yeah. Sounds good

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>>31653595
No; you can get a new one for that. Magazines are worth like $1 each.

why is a general about some of the least gay rifles out there as gay as it is

like seriously it's like the fucking pulse in here pre-omar

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>>31655209
>Omars comming!
Cosmiic balance my nigga
We all down with the Tao here
Manly ass rifles need leggings and lace.

>>31651816


I'd like to post just a few more comments regarding service. Some of you will not like these comments:

First, when you call for service, be polite. If you are not polite to my staff, I guaranty you will have a pleasant experience. Remember the old saying, "You can attract more files with honey that with vinegar." If you call with an attitude, my staff has been instructed to put you on the back burner. If you are nice and polite, you will get quicker service.

Second, please read the manual carefully. I know it's boring but there's important information there. Many people do not understand that you need to set the gas correctly for function and durability. It's really quite simple - put it on the setting that throws the brass 8 to 15 feet from the rifle for any given ammo. Do not just leave the gas system on the highest setting, If you do, for some ammo it will kick like hell, throw your brass 40 feet, give you trigger slap, and damage your recoil buffer (a cheap part).

Third, please send us the following information:

Name, Address, Email and Cell number;
Serial Number;
Signed Copy of your warranty Registration found in the last pages of the Operator's Manual; and
A complete description of the problem, BE BRIEF. If you write and essay about your vast knowledge of firearms base on your long time relationship with your AR-15, we won't read it.

We will authorize the return to us of part or all of your firearm. WE DO NOT PAY FOR SHIPPING TO US.

Fourth, if you post a bunch of whiny petty negative stuff here or anywhere, I guaranty very slow service. I have made that a policy. Yes, we've made lots of mistakes with service but that is behind us.

-continued-

>>31651816

-continued-


Now for some parting comments. I am very happy with the current state of the XCR. It continues to gain in popularity. A great part of our sales are to Military and Law Enforcement professionals. Though we've got the XCR to the point where is nearly perfect, we are not stopping. We will continue to perfect the platform and add accessories. Work continues on the XCR .308. It will be finished when it is perfect and we hope that will be soon.

We appreciate those who stand by and support us. They are true patriots. We have to question the motives of those who continue to tear us down on this forum. They cannot stop us. Their petty feeble minds are easily exposed. The XCR will gain momentum until it covers the whole earth. There is no other platform like it and it is the best.

Sincerely,

Alex J. Robinson
General Manager
Robinson Armament Co.

P.S. Don't expect me to read and respond to this post. It is for your information only.

I've had a few emails that have asked me to clarify a few things.

Update on .308 and Stock. These projects are full speed ahead. Hopefully soon. They are both working but need a few tweaks. Those tweeks can take weeks or months depending on how things go. The bottom line is that we're seeing light at the end of the tunnel. THEY WILL BE DONE WHEN THEY ARE DONE.

>>31630748
Wait, I know you

>>31637994
But he cries a lot.

>>31640809
> the scar is the best rifle full stop ever made

You actually like hugging that slab?

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>>31657581
very

>>31657042
>>31657043
>CEO
>on 4chinz
Kys and your company fuckbot

>>31657581
>Hes never held a SCAR

>>31657697
That was a reply posted on arfcom IIRC. The owner basically came out saying his design is perfect, anybody having trouble is an idiot, and if you sound upset on the phone about your non-functioning $2k rifle you will be hung up on. He has since been sent on a long (probably indefinite), paid vacation by his investors last I heard.

>>31659677
Guy who founded LWRC (Leitner Wise Research Company) was posting on arfcom under different accounts. Back in the day when 6.8 SPC and 6.5 grendel were all shiny and new, his company supported the SPC, and was shit posting the grendel by samefagging it up.

Got called out, got kicked out of his own company. The investors actually brought on some of the vendors to run the company.

Not sure what it is about shitty people running these companies that put out not fully tested products out on the market.

>>31659677
>>31659776
Good to hear the investors don't want to put up with a CEO that shitposts on the internet. As for why shitty people run these companies. Probably the same reason they were able to start it up, too much force of personality

>>31659829
If you have a decent idea, and can speak passionately, you can get people to find you. They dont want to be in the day to day shit, but they do pay attention.

>>31659776

Didn't LWRC also stir up shit when they took money and didn't deliver rifles to guys because some saudis ordered a bunch and they basically told Americans to fuck off until that contract was fulfilled? Or was that the usual barfcom bullshit?

Either way it put me off LWRC, so mission accomplished I guess?

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>>31657607
Im going to buy a 16 in FDE just to upset you

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>>31662728
Do it fag

>>31657607
Hey Sakuya I want to get a mepro m21 for my FAL but I'm not sure if you approve of it or not. I know you don't like vortex and what not but if I post my FAL with a m21 on it will you call me a poorfag and be mean? I really don't want to spend 500$ and then have you think I'm a poor piece of shit.

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>>31662728
it wont bother me ill be happy but blue is the best scar color by far

>>31662848
i hate modern sights on old guns fagpai

>>31662908
I just want your approval. W-what should I do?

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>>31662918
use iron sights or buy a scar and a nightforce or acog?

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>>31662728
FDE best color

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>>31662946
Nightforce
Though I'm thinking of getting a mk8 and move my nxs to the LMT when that comes in

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>>31663710
Blues a best

>>31663737
>16s

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>>31663764

okay. Maybe .300 is more your style.

>>31662908
What will it take for you to leave forever?

>>31664500
I wish MGW would release aftermarket barrels.

Or Deadshot
Or Handl
Or whoever

>>31665288

Or FN.

>>31665311
Don't think the DoD contract let's them.
And I want a creedmoor barrel

>>31662779
ohhhhh sexy peanut butter daddy

>>31665288

Did you already contact Deadshot?

>>31665656
If I want mail off a sacrificial SCAR barrel to them, they will be able to get me one now.

$1000 for a reciever extension and gas block is a little steep for me, and I buy Noveske barrels.

They said that they expected to have aftermarket barrel extensions and gas blocks done up by year end. Probably whoever is going to to them up for MGW and Handl is making them for deadshot. Though it would be interesting to see if they all were independently working on solutions on their own.

New thread:
>>31667049
>>31667049
>>31667049

What's a good non $2g battle rifle for a lefty?