Hello /k/, I am not a regular poster here and am usually a /mu/ faggot, but Deer season starts tommorow and my boyfriend would like to take me hunting. The problem is, the only guns I own are a VZ58, a Cimmaron 1911 and a Ruger gp100. I was looking at buying a Mossberg Patriot in .308 for 500 dollars, but money is a bit tight.
>TL;DR
my predicament: Can I hunt with a VZ58 with ironsights, or should I buy a scoped .308 even though money is tight.
Hunt with the vz58 if you are a good shot and not retarded. Rifle is fine.
>>31623650
I was told i'm supposed to aim for the lungs/heart area, right?
>>31623658
no? aim for the face.
>>31623671
i dunno, i've heard horror stories about jaws flying off and the deer running off
>>31623871
Don't aim for the head. yes, go for the lungs/ heart.
VZ is fine provided you know how to shoot with it. don't use FMJs, use softpoints.
>>31623894
I've had this gun most of my life and can hit pretty consistently with it. Why use softpoints?
>>31623913
better expansion, nicer for the animal, less cruel
>>31623913
Expansion.
to caveat this, cheap soft points like brown bear hardly expand at all. hornady is the go too for hunting ammo.
>>31623956
>>31623953
thank you guys! I'm in south carolina, do I need to buy a smaller mag? i only have 30's for my VZ.
>>31623995
google you nigger, do you use it?
>>31623574
>Can I hunt with a VZ58 with ironsights
Yes, 7.62x39mm should be pretty appropriate for deer, and your average VZ58 should be able to cut the mustard. If yours is a 5.56x45mm rifle, that can work too, but I'd look for the most fitting hunting ammo online.
That said, there are rail and side-mounts for fitting optics, which you could do for well under $500. Pic related is a specialized hunting model, but it's just to illustrate that a scope could be put on your VZ
If you're worried about appearances, order a 5 or 10 round magazine.
>>31623658
Yes, a good and clean shot involves hitting one or both lungs, as well as possibly the heart if you can.
If you manage to hit all three in one shot, that's an excellent and clean hit, but focus on the lungs mainly.
>>31623671
I wouldn't do that personally, at a forward angle, bullets are known to deflect off of animal skulls such as those of deer (being thick and angled), at which point you have an injured and panicked animal.
I wouldn't really want to do it at any other angle either if I could choose, too many ways for it to go wrong.
>>31623995
SC doesn't seem to have a magazine limit on you for hunting, so you should be fine, though some fudd might give you funny looks for showing up with a 'military rifle' with a long magazine.
Given that the Vz can be loaded from the breech, you could simply bring one magazine in the gun, and then reload the rifle with clips or individual rounds, could conceivably be less bulk. Or you could look online for a pair of 10 round magazines, they'd look less conspicuous, while allowing you to get down low on the ground easier (30 round 7.62mm magazines have a tall profile, as I'm sure you are aware). Again though, nothing stops you from bringing assault clipazines.
As for accuracy, most deer engagements happen at 100 to 150 yards, so if you can score a passable grouping at those distances (not too hard for an experienced rifleman as yourself), then you should be golden.
Don't be afraid to wear a bright orange vest or cap, deer's vision is based on movement (and they're colorblind), so to be undetected, you stand still. The bright orange would make you easier to spot from a distance by other hunters.
>>31623574
There's no reason you cant hit a deer at normal hunting ranges with vz irons. My 13.5" steel @400y doesn't even feel like that much of an accomplishment using irons. At half the range or less, it'd be cake to hit an area the size of deer vitals.
>>31624413
>Or you could look online for a pair of 10 round magazines
I'd do that anyway in his situation. And buy a pouch to hold the 2nd 10rd mag and a few strippers.
Unlike carrying 4 30rd mags on a belt, this is actually 100% comfortable and not annoyingly big or heavy.
>>31624387
I want that Vz. But in .308
>>31623574
Do it.
If you can kill a deer with an arrow you can kill it with any caliber with good penetration.
>>31623658
Your supposed to aim there but if your a good enough shot aim for the spine or throat, it will drop them immediately, the animal won't feel a thing and you won't have to chase it through the fucking forest.
>>31623574
Are you a girl(male)?
>>31626171
>Are you a male twink
FTFY
>>31624387
>>31624413
Thanks alot guys! Sorry for asking any stupid questions, I just couldnt find anything on the mag limit in my state. The area i'll be hunting in has an abundance of coyotes and wild hog too, so I might just keep the 30 in, i'll eventually grab some smaller ones though
>>31626171
I'm a dude, dude.
>>31626171
Kill yourself kiddo
>>31626856
>boyfriend/boyfriend deer hunting
daaaw www
>>31626912
thanks! <3
>>31623956
Sorry, another reply, how do I tell if it is a soft point bullet? Will it say so on the box? I usually only pay attention to caliber (obviously), and the grain of the bullet. I feel stupid.
>>3162691
Right in the feels
>>31627018
what was it?
>>31627041
Messed up link cause phone
>Tfw no bf
shoot it in the head OP dont be a pussy
>>31627111
You'll find someone! Please don't lose hope, i'm sure that you're great! Eventually love will come out of nowhere and sweep you off of your feet!