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How do you make war cruel enough that Jihadis are too demoralized

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How do you make war cruel enough that Jihadis are too demoralized to engage in it?

CBRN their families? What are the most cruel weapons and technologies possible to be used in war?

How would Jihadis react to having legions of blinded "soldiers"?
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>>31604992
Airborne chemical castration.
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>>31604992
Would a nuclear attack a-la Hiroshima turn ISIS strongholds into hell on earth black rain and fire and burned people?
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LSD rain

It'll work I promise. YOu won't be able to fight after ingesting 1000 hits of acid and meeting your original nature.
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>>31604992
If we could get Dow Chemical to stop giving a shit again, I would say napalming villages would be very nice, if not Willy Pete might have some things to say about the situation.
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>>31604992
>What are the most cruel weapons and technologies possible to be used in war?
some bio weapon that turns them all into jewish woman
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>>31604992

Make them 50/50 man/pork sausages and ship them to their families.
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>>31605073
This sounds legitimate.

A combined cruelty strategy involving laser weapons against ground troops, chemical and white phosphorous mortar and artillery attacks, I don't know it needs something else.
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>>31605047
They gave acid to british soldiers in the 50s and 60s.

https://youtu.be/KWodyapGNxI?t=64

Recently they tested aderall on british soldiers, that too was a failure as they couldn't get the dosage right and turned the platoon into autists. I should totally make a thread on that.
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>>31605099
would require an effort to recover the bodies on the ground
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>>31605047
Would only be effective if they couldn't fight afterward.
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>>31604992
>how do you make a bunch of fanatical humans who want to die so they can have their 70 virgins not want to die

idk desu senpai. seems like the only course of action is to either give them their wish and kill them all or somehow find a way to completely fuck their shit up without ever killing any of them.
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>>31605105
It does need something else.

How about bringing back the daisy cutter for shock and awe? But rather than being C-130 based it is C-5 based and is really just several pallets of C-4 that max out the carrying capacity of the plane? Escorted by fighters in great shock and awe patterns of course.
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>>31605148
combine it with dropped antipersonnel mines and maybe

but without black rain and nuclear fire it's a little lackluster
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>>31605183
Alright, lets amp it up a touch with some good old psyops.

>have wave one
>a C-5 equipped with a 120 ton daisy cutter
>escorted by ten or so fighters for muh aesthetics and to disable AA if it is there
>then about five minutes later send in another C-5 and fighter team in the same configuration
>but rather than the daisy cutter it is carpet bombing leaflets and it drops a few armored sound systems into the epicenter of the blast
>these sound systems play things such as:
>The National Anthem
>various music that screams 'Murica, Fuck Yeah
>propaganda messages saying "this is what a war against the US looks like, surrender and it stops"
>and occasionally and sporadically it plays audio of the C-5/Fighter parade and the sound of the bomb going off
>All at 160 Db of course
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>>31605372
the music idea is gay, those inbred retards would probably enjoy hearing it
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>>31605372
how about some napalm and a MOAB or two?
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>>31605417
not that anon, but how about the sound of women enjoying their orgasms instead?
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>>31604992
You can't. These are men who believe they are right in the eyes of God, and who will gladly die for their cause.

It would take God (or I suppose Allah) himself coming down and telling them to fuck off.
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>>31605455
Delusional people always think they can change their minds or influence their actions if they have a chance to force them to hear something.

Don't be a delusional fool. Don't even bother with that stupid shit. Telling them nothing would be far better, in fact, hide the whole campaign from the international audience.

Leave them wondering who is napalming their wives and children and dropping AP mines in their backyards.
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>>31605460
Better yet, blame the attacks on one of their allies or rival gangs.

>Enjoy the napalm and willy pete!
>t. Assad
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>>31605417
The South Koreans do it over the DMZ, what makes it different then K-pop?
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>>31605500
Isn't that kind of fuckery what got us into this mess in the first place?
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>>31605553
the ISIS population isn't as indoctrinated

the propaganda would have to attack the ideas of jihad being islamic to have the same effect, and I doubt it would cause ISIS to fear losing control of their population is the difference.

But maybe they are more similar than we know.

>debunk jihad being islamic via various terrorist scholars
>watch uprising kill ISIS goatfuckers
>laugh

Then we can bomb their women and children after, right?
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>>31605587
>Then we can bomb their women and children after, right?

Is there any other way?
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>>31605118
>current year
>not grinding down dead hobos
Shiggy diggy doo
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>>31604992

Trump was right. Kill their families and their spawn.

You can't go to paradise if your actions also resulted in your family being wiped out.
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>>31604992
>How do you make war cruel enough that Jihadis are too demoralized to engage in it?
For the US or Russia to actually try
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>>31605098
I wish this was real.
>tfw you'll never be a tall curly haired jewess who don't need no goy
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>>31605638
Widespread use of pig meat would be a good psychological effect, I imagine.

>pig bullets, pig bombs, pig flames
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>>31604992
It's simple. We know Jihadi's are in a village? level it.
Jihadis attack us? Backtrack everything and level everything they touched.
Catch one of the ANA Generals raping a little boy again? Cut his fucking cock and balls off, throw them in the street, and drag him out into the biggest and most public area you can find, announce that he's being executed for shit we simply will NOT fucking tolerate, Shoot him in the back of the fucking head, chop his head off, put it on a fucking spike outside our compound with a sign in their shit-runes saying that they better not be putting their dicks in kids asses unless they want the same, and every single time that kind of behavior repeats, or corruption repeats, or anything else like that starts happening, they can TRUST and BELIEVE that we will FUCKING MURDER THEM AND EVERYTHING AROUND THEM.

Abject, cerebral, animal fear of death and injury is the only stimulus to which they react and it needs to be dispassionate, effective, and personal to achieve the best effect.
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>>31604992
Taint all wells and fresh water sources with pig blood. Then ship then caricatures of Muhhamed sucking dick in a Koran bound in pig leather. The overload of haram shit will cause them to BSOD.
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>>31605664
When will this meme die?
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>>31605026
eh, that's not that scary if you've been kicked in the balls more than once
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>>31605687
when it's debunked
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>>31604992
stick a pike through their asshole while they are still alive then leave them on it til they die. Worked pretty well before.

with an occasional full on crusade.
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>>31605116
Shit man, when rip-its had amphetamines in them, we'd just buy as many 6-packs as we could get our hands on

Squad morale restored, motherfucker
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>>31604992
Just bombard them with faggotry, porn and anime.
After a while the problem will just go away.
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>>31604992
A thought that just came to me, it's edgy as fuck, I don't think anyone deserves to be tortured, but whatever.

Drop bombs where ever isis people are, doesn't kill them them, just knocks them out quick as fuck.

When they wake up, they are told they are gonna be tortured for 72 days, one for each virgin. They can renounce their faith to Allah at any time and be beheaded instead of tortured.

Broadcast this shit like isis does with their executions.

Don't even engage them in combat anymore, just sleep bomb them, and broadcast the results.
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>>31605665

>Babylonians did it
>Persians did it
>Romans did it
>Ottomans did it
>British did it
>Even Saddam did it

So I guess we've known the answer the whole time, is any country man enough to try?
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>>31605665
t. Calvin and Hobbes
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>>31605417
Actually, jihadis generally despise Western music. Something about the tonal differences between Mideastern tonal scales and religious prohibitions against music.
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>>31604992
Short answer? There are no "humane" ways to make them fear fighting.

Also, they're on their own ground and as the Vietnamese did, they'll endure hell and stick to irregular warfare, demoralizing everyone trying to find and fight them (in a clean way), thus, you'll have to stick to inhumane tactics which will lead to everyone else in the world marking you the inhumane, cruel side of the war.

So, let them come outside of their own territory, hoping the invaded will get angry and fight them "hold your ground or die" style.

Or: "Cry, 'Havoc!' and let slip the dogs of war." But it's hard to push western society towards de-humanizing an enemy and ultimately accepting total war on Jihadis without caring about collateral damage.

imho, that's what we need, though.
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>>31605990
Russia probably. If they get pissed off enough.
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load a b52 with freedom fuel shit oxidizes every thing releases acids, and is neuro toxic https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chlorine_trifluoride
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>>31606309
load a galaxy c 5 cargo master with max load limit... come on think of it..
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turn mosques into synagogues and churches, impale the imams, lite up korans and throw them and the bodies of jihadis into pig shit, execute all males in 25% of all Muslim villages, hand over Muslim women as sex slaves to yazidis, give all Muslim farmland and valuables to Christians, green cross holdouts, hang Islamic fundamentalists from remaining minarets, and coral them into reservations
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>>31606309
this gif always makes me feel small and vulnerable
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It's a bunch of kids with too much testosterone and no real future to speak of back home. Being an evil fucker won't do much, because unless they're standing close enough to whatever atrocity you commit to get soaked in blood, they will know it'll never happen to them. Compare with how capital punishment usually does absolutely nothign as a deterrent to crime. All you accomplish is that you're now an evil motherfucker.

Now if you take out their supply chain and the economic basis behind them, then they're not going to be able to get much done in the first place, and it'll make life in the field suck a lot harder. That'll make a number of them consider maybe sneaking out the back and going home.

And most importantly, go about helping lift the regions they recruit from out of abject poverty (in some cases this can simply mean stepping back and not fucking the place up any more for a decade or four). Recruitment goes to hell when they have a future back home, and once they're settled in with a mortgage... It isn't for nothing that the US Army and Marines mostly consist of the poorer kids.
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>>31604992
>How do you make war cruel enough that Jihadis are too demoralized to engage in it?
Not possible. You can't demoralize these people, they're fanatics.

The only solution is to kill them all.
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>>31606404
this webm makes me fap, though
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>>31605040
on mecca
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>>31604992
Throw a Tomahawk at Mecca, Watch as half the muslim population, they will mass attack every nation out there, and the world will practically beg for their eradication.
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>>31606460
our collective wet dream?
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>>31605665

This. Jihad fighters and their senpaitachi have to die. I'd love to see the US stop intervening completely though. Let the rest of the world fight Islam for awhile. The EU as a laughable whole might be waking up a bit as individual countries in it are decimated.

The ideas that involve pork or pig's blood are fucking dumb. Grow up. They may not love pig-based food, but Americans raining it on them is going to have literally zero negative effect on their resolve.
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>>31606459
Cluster munitions, great at stopping an advance and laying mines in front of yours.
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>>31604992
does anyone else have the urge to fuck this cat? i know its fake but thats a real well done mannequin.

perhaps its cuz of my bestiality fetish and furfaggotry. but damn thats a really attractive and cute cat.
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>>31605372
>Muh psyops
Quality post senpai
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>>31606872
Those aren't cluster bombs, that's what a rocket barrage looks like on the receiving end
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>>31606989
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>>31605665
>People who kill themselves to fight us will be intimidated by threats of death

Think about it before you start jacking yourself off, Sherman.
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>>31607093
Still a type of cluster munition.
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>>31606989
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>>31604992
Implement collective punishment. A single act in support of Jihad by one resident in a village condemns the entire village to obliteration through carpet bombing. However, if the villagers turn in the Jihadi before we discover him, the village is spared.

Either the locals will self-police Islam into submission or we systematically wipe them out.
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>>31604992
Go full Tarkin Doctrine
For each act of terror they commit/claim responsibility for we glass one of their cities, starting with the one with the most populated and work our way down the scale
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>>31604992
Run Operation Rolling Thunder II: Bomber Boogaloo, now with Daisy cutters, willy pete, clister bombs and FAE munitions.
Then drop leaflets stating the bombings will continue until resistance ends.
Rinse and repeat until A) resistance ends or B) every part of the ME is a glassed plain.
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>>31604992
Public televised execution of every single person who preaches radical islam, shoot-to-kill order against the inevitable protests who try to challenge this policy.
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>>31605687
When we try it. Americans have millions of gallons of big blood and shit, we should dump it on them instead of in the nearest rivers.
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>>31609298
You realize the Tarkin Doctrine failed, right?
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Do this Alpha Group style.

>We kidnap their families.
>Then we start cutting ears, fingers, toes, tongues, noses, eyes, balls, dicks, nipples, etc off them.
>start mailing the body parts to them with photo proof of source.
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>>31604992
Glass Raqqa and Mecca and destroy every Muslim person or artifact inside Israel. That will definitively prove their prophecies false.
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is LSD dfiscouraged by the geneva conventions? Seems like a pretty solid idea. It's not like it kills you unless you are retarded and you shoot yourself or someone else
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>>31609693
It's a good thing the sandniggers don't have X-wings then. 2nd time's the charm.
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>>31604992
Kill all Muslims everywhere on the entire planet.
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drop hundreds of thousands of old porn magazines on them. literally buy out old naughty bookstores and drop their stock onto big cities

drop anime merchandise and blast denpa from 160dB steroes
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>>31604992
Literally impossible. Those people have no empathy.
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>>31605116
>this man was nearly successful felling this tree with only a spade
Dude needs to chill.
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>>31605372
I like it.
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>>31604992
That's like asking how you make things cruel enough so cockroaches stop wanting to live in your house. The only answer is 100% purge.
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>>31604992
Skin their women and children alive

then rape them while they die over the course of a day or 2

stream it live and drop dvd copies for the hadjis to watch
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>>31605849
yes

i like this

u are a cunning bastard
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>>31605372
Only works if we ignore SJWs and kill all the civies.
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>>31604992
SF author Tom Kratman (retired light colonel) had some ideas in one of his books that was described as follows:

"Tom Kratman's A Desert Called Peace is practically the platonic ideal of epic Jacksonian war-porn. The printing process involves soaking the books in testosterone. It is so beautifully, terribly and gloriously Jacksonian, in fact, that merely reading the book carries the risk of pregnancy for unprotected women and metrosexuals."

Ideas started at crucifixion.

Worked for the Romans for quite a while. . . have to line up all the SJW's first though
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>>31606418
>It isn't for nothing that the US Army and Marines mostly consist of the poorer kids.

This is statically untrue. The US army and marines are disproportionately middle class and average. a bit more than 2 years of college. More so in combat arms
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>>31611916

Meh. They would just release a slomo hidef video of them boiling christian children alive.

You have to attack their faith. Something like Project Blue Beam. Something to destroy the core of their Islamic religious faith.

A gypsy curse. A Jewish coin double bluff,

Plagues unleashed during the Haj to Mecca. Tens of millions of Muslims die during the Haj. attacked by swarms of biting locusts. Blood raining from the sky during the Hajj. Islamic Clerics spontaneously combustion during preaching.

That would fuck up the muzzies good.

Make all of their first born children mysteriously die.
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>>31604992
>>31604992
Can someone please post the thread cap where people were talking about using power-armor fursuits to demoralize the enemy?
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>>31605849
>>31611935
Sorry guys, but this would be ineffective as well. This would just give them resolve to not be caught by us and to prevent against chemical warfare. It also makes the US look bad, given that we were an appearance in the Geneva Convention and, overall, we're simply supposed to be a world-wide governing force with an effective and comparatively humane military force.
The only way to stop them is to get rid of the radicals. Ideas like this one would be fine up until they saw that we weren't using anything but this. You have to show no mercy to these kinds of people.
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>>31604992
Get a friendly immam or iman or whatever he is called a muslim priest and have him condemn the souls of the 'jihadists' (preferable alive) on video and post on youtube
Asking for Allah to send them to their verions of Hell for spilling the blood of innocents.

That's probably the only thing these primitive fanatics will understand.
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>>31607105
No, no it isn't.
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>>31604992
Bacon for the Bacon God! Pork for the Pork Throne!
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>>31604992
I've got a good one m80

soak your bullets and their bodies in pigs blood and video it and send them the video. So they believe that they go to hell if we kill them
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>>31612811
>That would fuck up the muzzies good.
And create more radicals not less.

Fuck you people are deranged, to think that killing civilians does anything but make more people join the cause. Afterall, look at how radicalized the far-right has become? Ranting about killing everyone who happens to read the same book as the people who are committing actual violence.
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Just start dumping garbage all over them.
Imagine it, huge fleets of transport planes crammed full of waste just dropping it on every major Isis stronghold.
Sewage, rotten food, old electronics, slag. Whatever. Just dump it all over them.
And off the coast, enormous tanker ships filled with garbage juice, serving as carriers for a huge fleet of drone cropdusters that spray a refreshing mist of rot and filth, billowing clouds of sticky vapor, rendering everything greasy and sticky.
Everything is going to smell like shit. The kind of smell that no amount of bleach will wash away. Make it impossible to film propaganda without huge piles of garbage in the background.
Mix in a bunch of medical waste as well for bonus points.
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>>31613281
This
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>>31604992
Oh it's much simpler than that. You call the CIA and tell them to stop funding and training them. That'll deal with the problem in about six months.
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>>31605116
>Hey, would acid work to screw with soldiers?
>Dunno. Let's test it on our own men.
kek, I love the military so much.
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>>31613322
The propaganda effort that has gone into convincing people that "Jihadism" is somehow not just the CIA's mercenaries using the tools we gave them to sell heroin is truly enormous. You aren't going to break that conditioning overnight.
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>>31613604
Heroin is so 2006. Why go through the trouble when you can buy fentanyl by the gigaton from China?
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>>31604992
Great, black, churning war machines... Incomprehensible machinations forged of iron and the evil in men's hearts. Spewing black smoke and the stench of death high into the desert sky, it trundles from village to village, burning any and all organic material for fuel. Men, women, children, livestock... It matters not. All are but food for the maw. All are but fuel for the Machine.
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Let's just like drop weed smoke on them and they can just chill out and we can smoke blunts together weed lmao
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>>31615335
Fug why arent we funding this
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>>31616070
They literally are.

The Energetically Autonomous Tactical Robot (EATR) is designed to fuel itself by consuming organic material and burning it in some sort of gasifier engine. This could include corpses.

http://www.robotictechnologyinc.com/images/upload/file/Website%20Input%20EATR%20Overview.pdf
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>>31615335
At the end of its campaign, will it travel to Mecca to demolish the Kaaba and install the Holy Murder Cube in its place?
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>>31615335
[Metal Gear Intensifies]
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>>31605664
what if we genetically modify all food on earth to contain pig dna?
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>>31616430
>>31613281
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>>31613322
If they can't be reasoned with or discouraged then they all have to die. Your position logically leads to genocide.
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>>31604992
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5saBttrJ64U
just send the Waffen SS
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You're overthinking this, just keep weeding out the Jihadis and the rest will be sufficiently impressed not to fuck with you. They eventually figured out that attacking Israel just resulted in getting their asses handed to them.
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>All this effort for torture

Bomb literally every village you see. Reduce the population to effectively zero over thousands of miles of land. Bomb big cities, bomb small cities, bomb shacks, bomb moisture farms and everything in between.

There can be no terrorism if there are no people.
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>>31606309
You're retarded. To manufacture enough of that shit to drop would be incredibly dangerous. Not to mention expensive, unconventional, and most likely not effective. Get Gud before you say some more retarded shit
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>>31604992
right because doing a bunch of shitty things to a civilian population is a great way to convince them that it would be better to side with you than with the locals
if the US government dropped napalm on your town would you be more or less upset?
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>>31605990
Saddam, Gaddafi and the others were cruel and maybe a bit insane. But they knew how to keep all these iron-age idiots in line.
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>>31606610
>I'd love to see the US stop intervening completely though. Let the rest of the world fight Islam for awhile.
When slavs try to its a bad thing
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>>31617769
You just have to push harder then.
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>>31613457
I was always wondering who would figure out how to weaponize rot first, good job
>stinks
Nigger, the diseases that will start growing on the decaying waste will make everyone sick
>medical waste
Everyone in that area will get sick

That cropduster drone idea is metal as fuck, im picturing a quadropter with a nozzle pointing down and 2 one liter tanks mounted on it just cruising around spewing a fine mist of fuck you
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>>31617356
What about the Muslims over here already?
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this, but in 120mm tank launched sabot and with multiple prongs so you can rape a whole village at once
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Pluto type drones

also I guess the use of bomb-pumped lasers in the visible light spectrum, with diffusion lenses, to blind whole cities at once
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>>31604992

We'd need to do
>group punishment
>Concentration camps
>killing/taking of hostages of women,children, family members to send a message to rebel leaders
>Chemical and biological warfare
>broadcasted torture
>actual psychological warfare
>Killing of POW's

To stop monster we have to become monsters. Better to bombard the place with capitalism, athiesm, porn, and games (TV,vidya,magazines, and the internet.)

They'll shape up in due time.
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>>31604992
>How do you make war cruel enough that Jihadis are too demoralized to engage in it?

You don't.

Anything you do other than just kill them is only going to:

1. Cement their ideological commitment to the fight

2. Turn any outside observer against you
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>>31623416
Yes, and anyone who understands the problem could tell you that, but /k/ is composed mostly of edgy and/or undereducated retards. It's pretty evident by all the posts where people seem to think contact with pigs makes Muslims catch fire or something, and the general attitude of cruelty being the best way to fix a problem.
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>>31604992
Auschwitz Birkenau all immigrants.
Poles would love some foreign outsourcing arrangements.
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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