Can we admit now that retiring the F-14 was a bad idea? >Standoff

>>31593160
>retiring the F-14 was a bad idea?
no

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>>31593229
>mfw a trip makes post with no evidence or logic to back it up

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>>31593287
it was old and not worth upgrading.
my proof is, the folks who make those decision know more than you or I

>>31593160
>He thinks a fuck huge RCS and a missile with a poor NEZ is relevant today.

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>>31593160
>maintenance costs
>maintenance costs
>oh god the maintenance costs

>>31593432
This.

Also, the airframes was starting to run out of FHs.

>>31593160
No, hangar queen with outdated and ineffective weapons like
>Phoenix
LOL, 3 fires, 2 engine failures and a miss in combat

It was real pretty though.

>>31593160
The Advanced Super Tomcat projects would have been so much better than the super hornet, should have made those and made the Super Hornet to replace the Hornet

>>31593160
>F-14D Quickstrike would of shat on the Super Hornet

>the entire reason the Quickstrike wasn't chosen was because it didn't meet the requirements of the program atf program

lel

>>31593160
No. The increased commonality and reduced maintenance needs of the Bug/Super Bug outweigh any losses in capability.

>>31593432
FYI - that is a picture of a Panavia Tornado, not a F-14 Tomcat.

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>>31593160

>Can we admit now that retiring the F-14 was a bad idea?

The F-14 was retired to save money after the end of the cold war and the Hornet was introduced as a cheaper alternative. It was purely a matter of budget. If the Navy could have maintain a cold-war-era budget, they would have probably kept the Tomcat.

F14 wasn't anything special. The USA should have made a Phoenix replacement though. That was a bad ass missile.

>>31593764
The AIM-120D has similar specs.

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>>31593764

>The USA should have made a Phoenix replacement though

For what purpose? The F-18 and F-35 are both too small to carry such a large missile. You'd have a new missile but nothing to deploy it with. The Phoenix and the Tomcat were made for each other. Literally.

>>31593794
Not even close. The Phoenix has a fuck huge range and it climbs like a monster to really hit at hypersonic speed. AIM-120D is gimped.

>>31593840
>The Phoenix has a fuck huge range
True
>to really hit
I've seen no evidence of that.

>>31593745

wingtip missiles are AIM-9s

>>31593877
yes, very good observation anon

>>31593877

And?

What made up most of its maintenance time, that it had two engines, or that it was a swing wing? I don't even know that much about the F14's engines, I'm guessing they changed them out for different models so lets just say the F14D

>>31593834
>For what purpose? The F-18 and F-35 are both too small to carry such a large missile.

Yet can carry the >2000 lb jassm.

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>>31593160

When I was browsing the catalogue, I thought this thread said
>Can we admit now that retiring the F-4 was a bad idea?

Would have been a superior discussion, desu

>>31593976
Go to South Korea anon

>>31593943
The variable wing geometry was the main problem.

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Enough about shitplanes, let's talk about shitplanes.

Where my Tiger boys at?

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>>31594253
>shitplanes

Didn't the F-16/18 outcompete it?

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>>31594253
>>31594314

I mean, good concept but when it came to the market it was kind of dissapointing