/akg/ AK General

>>31581347
poop

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Anti-DDI noguns shitposters pls go and stay go.

>>31581381
I think most ani-DDI'ers are just anti DDI shotguns. those things just shear off locking lugs. it's not good.
pretty sure most people accept that their rifles are good.

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AMD best AK

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>Windy and wet outside
>Staying inside with my cats, cleaning my gun, and listening to Кинo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0AQho7_1cs)

Very good day to have a day off work.

>>31581301
I thought I read that PSA imported trunnions, not positive though. Probably just a different business strategy and/or DDI has the some infrastructure to do the trunnions that PSA lacks the interest of investing in. I kind of lose interest at that point

I find their business strategies much much more interesting then their rifles. DDI especially is curious in how they market and the tone they want to portray about their company.

>>31581407
Is that an AMD 63 or 65?

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October is the best month of the whole damn year.

>Start of fall, the best season
>Halloween, easily the best holiday
>cold weather means less people at the range

are Romanian read loading drums any good?
or should I spring for a top loading drum?

>>31581347
AKs-74u... if its muzzle velocity and/or muzzle energy were low enough, it would be an SMG even though it fires intermediate cartridges.

>>31581404
nah, there's at least one guy really trying to force the DDI sucks meme

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>>31581407
funny way to spell RK

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>>31581508
they seem like a decent product, I feel like you're missing most of the meta in the AK meme though.

>>31581413
Wish I had the day off, still haven't shot my SLR104. Can't wait for the sound of rifle fire echoing on the snowy peaks and dense wet air

>>31581554
>Can't wait for the sound of rifle fire echoing on the snowy peaks and dense wet air
Best feeling, also Tacoma and the entire south Sound is a shithole

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>>31581587

>>31581571
Yeah, I'm in Everett now, grew up in south Seattle and the valley. In some ways I miss it, kind of boring up here. My day has property in Orting, pretty nice area as far as nature.

>>31581164
want to make my own sig+ak pic now
two more weeks before I can see my babies again
>>31581413
FL?

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>>31581617
>FL?
WA
I S L A N D L Y F E

>>31581635
Camano?

>>31581661
50/50 Whidbey and Fidalgo

>>31581571
>>31581605
Former Oly resident here. Weird amount of Evergreen grads own guns.

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My dong is best.

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>>31581689
Starting point

>>31581458
Not sure, I believe the gen 1s had Taiwanese cast trunnions.

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>>31581147 Damn. Not sure how to feel about that

>>31581474
65

>>31581822
totalshit/10

>>31581959
oh no senpai gas tube and barrel much too long

>>31581729
ruining that red color, senpai....

>>31581508
>forcing the truth

>>31582059
It had to be redone, and I wasn't going to fake an authentic finish. Besides, tung oil is a better finish anyways, and I like wood grain.

>>31582089
Speak of the devil...

sheeet guys i accidentally a whole makarov at the gunstore

>>31582035
It was a kit from classic, sue me

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>>31582316
illya (1982 bulgy) chloe (1985 bulgy)

>>31582509
3rei made up a lot of ground for 2wei herz, but still had some bad writing.
hype for s5 anyway

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Ok /akg/

Let's talk about handguards.

In general, do you prefer the aesthetics of vented or non-vented? Do you care if your handguards are period correct? Have you ever bought and sold multiple sets searching for the perfect look?

>>31582581

Nice

>>31582637
i like wood and plum polymer, but i need rails for a flashlight on my HD gun :(. but overall a nice russian wood its max bonher

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>>31582637
With my krinker I used vented because I think vented looks better on these. It's a Bulgarian dressed as a Russian so I didn't care about any kind of correctness.

With my project builds whatever is correct is whatever looks best to me. I won't be able to enjoy it unless it's "correct."

>>31582637
I like donkey dick and cheese grater. Just my personal preference.

Not on every gun, but the dream is to have a 47 triangle folder with those and maybe a plum pistol grip.

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>>31582637
>Do you care if your handguards are period correct?
This is the most important part for me.
>>31582683
>It's a Bulgarian dressed as a Russian
Mine too, I simply wanted it to look as close to a late 80s rifle as I could without needing to replace parts that need a press and stuff like that. That's cool enough to me. If I ever get around to starting to build kits (I'm simply waiting to get out of my apartment so I have room for the tools I'll need) then I'll be hyper autistic and want every single tiny detail to be as correct as possible.

>>31582637
>In general, do you prefer the aesthetics of vented or non-vented?
Never really thought about it.

>Do you care if your handguards are period correct? Have you ever bought and sold multiple sets searching for the perfect look?
Nope and nope. That last one sounds like some good old fashioned autism.

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>>31582844
>That last one sounds like some good old fashioned autism.

>>31582767
isnt plum and pinned barre components dubious at best as far as being "correct"?
>hold his legs, he can't be reached, it's the autism

>>31583059
Barrel*

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So can we have an AK power ranking now that the PSA test has concluded? What AKs top the charts and which ones suck ass?

For the sake of keeping things simple, lets contain it to non-custom AKs in 7.62x39.

>>31583059
nope, that's correct for an AKS-74 from 85 until they started dimpling (89ish?)

>>31583074
pass:
WBP
Arsenal
PSA

fail:
RAS47
IO

WASR-10 and N-PAP probably pass

>>31583074

1. Vepr
2. Arsenal SGL series
3. Arsenal SLR series
4. PSAK-47 Gen2 (TIED WITH) GP WASR-10
5. NPAP
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Shit. RAS47
ULTRASHIT. I.O. """""AK"""""

I know I'm missing a bunch.

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>>31582602
i have hertz wei and 3rei downloaded, i just need to watch them

>>31583126
better email him and let him no he needs to reconsider his collection
http://www.avtomats-in-action.com/pro17.html

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>>31582637
Vented

>>31583252
You know you just gave that dude a mental breakdown, right?

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shoved a dong in my raifu. obviously I can't fold it all the way, but it looks cool. planning on chopping up the butt and possibly connecting either side with paracord or some other elastic band that'll fit over the dong. they're a diamond dozen on the interwebz anyways.

>>31583351
also changing that pistol grip with glorious bakelite. fuck the furniture I bought it with.

is $1000 way too much for the polish WBP rifle on atlantic? slr 107s seem pretty hard to find at the moment, and I don't want to have to put in the effort to convert a vepr

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Shark fins are the sexiest thing ever created.

>>31583351
you know they made dongs with a different shape to fit underfolders, right?

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Don't know if I missed it, but are the group buy mags shipping soon?

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>>31583379
reverse dongs are very uncommon fampai

>>31583393
This saturday.

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What type of Krylon is best for a rattlecan job? I want to paint my 104 a two tone of black and a light brown, probably kahki like color,

>>31583473
nice 7.62x39 vepr, very stylish

>>31583504
Thanks. I am actually in the middle of finishing to convert it. At the time i was a bit short on money and i had a spare set of vepr furniture and stuff from when I refinished my 74 wood. I was able to get a full set of russian RPK furniture from russia for $100 and i got a SGM adapter. For the bipod i found a PKM that will fit otherwise I would have to pay someone to pull the barrel and reprofile it, Will post pics when its actually finished.

>>31583417

Awesome thanks.

>>31583151
There's a bunch online that I see for sale but have heard nothing about:
Petronov
High Standard
Classic Firearms AMD
DDI
Lee Armory
Definitive Arms

He should also test the C39V2

>>31583596
>Classic Firearms AMD

From what I've heard, the kits they used are quality hungarian parts, but the barrel is too soft so you will have a shortened lifespan for them. I was all set to buy one until I learned that.
Definitive arms makes a quality gun.

>>31583059
>isnt plum and pinned barre components dubious at best as far as being "correct"?
>>31582767
>without needing to replace parts that need a press and stuff like that

If you had read his entire post you'd have seen that he's only trying to get things on the gun that don't require a press, like replacing pinned barrel components

>>31583596
Definitive Arms for custom jobs for sure

>>31583664
I wish this chrome lined or bust meme would die
people have stopped thinking about guns and dismiss them out of hand just because they lack that one feature

>>31583596
>Petronov

They were formerly known as Lancaster, whose previous owner got sued so hard for basically taking peoples money and not giving them their AKs, that he had to go on the lam.

The current owner sounds like a tool. Not DDI tier toolage, but still a tool.

>>31583706
It's not chrome lined or bust in this case. It's soft steel that will shoot out too soon.

>>31583706
Can you point to where he said anything about chrome?

>>31583686
Fair enough, but isn't that the wrong way to go about it?

>hand guards most important
>doesn't want to replace barrels components
>doesn't just install laminate, would be correct
>afghanistan
>plum

>>31583732
did someone actually do a hardness test, or is it rumor?
first I've heard of soft barrels

>>31583733
chrome is harder than steel and that's why it extends barrel life
I made an assumption based on limited information that turned out to be incorrect

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>>31583706

>tfw for my first AR build, I got a BCM BFH upper specifically because it was chrome lined
>since my AK was chrome lined, I had to do it with my AR as well
>because OBVIOUSLY chrome lining makes your barrel last forever, and prevents stuck casings in the chamber from ever happening even with the most rotten of ammo

I know, I fell for the meme, but I love my shiny chrome liney.

>>31582637
Romanian Donger, AMD with Donger, plum poly, and then really any wood that has that sort of dark red color to it.

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>>31583059
I'm well aware it isn't 100% correct, all I've done to it is put a period correct muzzle brake and matte plum furniture with a 1988 dated sling. It's still just an SLR 104.

>>31583743
>hand guards most important
No, but they're the easiest to get without needing a press.
>doesn't want to replace barrels components
I'd love to but I don't have a press or have room for a press. At that point I'd might as well just pick up one of the late 80s kits that are out there for around $700ish and just have it built.
>doesn't just install laminate, would be correct
I've got wood, I just haven't had it on the gun in a long time as I like polymer better on 74s.
>afghanistan
>plum
What are you implying? Plum AKs were in Afghanistan in the last few years of the war. They weren't nearly as common as wood but they certainly were there, especially in late 1988 into early 1989 when the war ended.

>>31583777
ESS barrels were used in these. It's fairly common knowledge (in the gun community) that they are softer than what they should be. They are made of 4140 chromoly which is great for other applications, but less than ideal for a gun barrel.

>>31583798
nah, there's no problem with chrome lining
it IS better than unlined, but people will dismiss rifles based on only that (worse yet when it's nitrided or has other treatment that isn't CL)
that's what I have a problem with

>>31583839
ok, so there is some science
wasn't aware of that

>>31583777
>did someone actually do a hardness test, or is it rumor?
Someone tested them.
They're made with ESS barrels that are butter soft.

http://www.akfiles.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2428782&postcount=25

>>31583706
It's more than that you retard. Yugos don't have chrome lined barrels and no one here bitches about that.

>>31583854
Mel64D on akfiles and youtube does a barrel hardness testing video that is pretty good. He often states that the only time he's had a barrel bend while pressing on AK barrel components, was an ESS barrel.

>>31581407
Getting one ordered tomorrow hopefully!

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>>31581347
So is the next edition going to be the Type 86S?

>>31583886
Reconsider.
ESS barrels test out at 6 to 7 rockwell.
AK specs are in the mid 20's.

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>>31581347
Anyone have this image but with the Ak 47 silhouette and labeling instead?

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>>31581347
First AK, how did I do?

>>31583948
I'll drop in a new barrel when mine dies. With standard gas more than likely.

>>31584000
>Drop in a new barrel
Do you even understand how one even does that with an AK?

>>31584000
>drop in a new barrel
>on an AK

You're an AR owner, aren't you.

My sweet child, you don't just "drop in" a new barrel in an AK.

>>31583979
Need a cleaning rod/10

>>31583979

Where's your cleaning rod?

>>31584069
>>31584082
Instruction book said not to install it?

>>31583979
So the folder stock doesn't interfere with optics? that's kindof nice for an ak.
Usually you need a terrible wire folder to fold the right direction to leave optics on.

>>31584069 said it for me
without a cleaning rod, it's like seeing a beautiful woman, except she has a giant wart on her forehead you can't stop staring at

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>>31584100
>Instruction book said not to install it

Nigger what fucked up company did you buy from that said not to put in your fucking cleaning rod?

>>31584100
That's crazy talk. Who made that gun?

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>>31584100

>>31583899
Yes it is, dubs.

>>31583473
Rustoleum appliance epoxy. Then bake it, shit barely smells when baked and it gets pretty damn hard.

>>31583706
Yep those amd rifles have barrels that are like 5HRC compared to most decent barrels in the range of 25-30HRC. Nothing to do with chrome lining.

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>>31584128
>>31584139
>>31584145

>>31584102
nope, doesnt interfere with optic and can turn safety on an off with it folded

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>>31581407
>Americanized barrel
Eat shit.

>>31584257
The fuck?

>>31584017
>>31584067
I have a 1 ton press and basic knowledge of metal with access to youtube... I'll be fine boys.

>>31584257
Arsenals confirmed back to shit status bubbly paint memes and triggers that fail to reset and must be replaced for the next 3 weeks.

>>31584298
Calm yourself buckaroo

>>31584324
It's more than just having a press, you'll need to entirely re-headspace the the rifle if you remove the barrel.

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3 more izzys came in today.

>>31584493
How many are you up to now?

For 7.62x39, 5 bakes total so far.
I keep buying them of files when i see them

>>31584444
Nice quads. And yes, I know, I will make sure to do it right when I do need to, or I'll just send it to Jim Fuller.

>>31584493
What's the deal, VAfag shipping yours out early while the rest of us wait?

>>31584541
As long as you know what you're doing with it it isn't' too hard to properly headspace it, just lots of guess and check work if you're not getting it right.

>>31584523
Pretty respectable start.
>How many mags total between your AKs?

>>31584544
No i bought these on files .

>>31583252
>>31583347
His build is perfectly correct, Izhmash started dimpling in '85. But factories being what they are, there are some pinned barrel components up until the early production years of the AK-74M, of which pinned examples exist.

I don't know how consistent it is for AK100 series, Rob Ski has some photos on his site of an issued AK103 with pinned components.

>>31584346
naw I think it interfers with the folding stock

>>31584493
>>31584523
I know you live in AZ faggot, gibe one

>>31584541
Send it to Jim Fuller lol. Good luck, that blowhard faggot will charge you 1000 dollars just for changing a gasblock.

>>31584580
I have about 40 altogether more 5. 45 tho

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>>31584493
Nice, how many are you expecting from VAfag?

EVERYONE IS GETTING MAGS TODAY!

>>31583596
Lee Armory is trash

>>31584774
Just a tula 30rnd bake , a izzy, and a 45rnd molot bake. All 5.45 of course

>>31584737
Only for museum quality prices

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>>31584892
Smce you seem to like odd magazines would you like this one? Random green paint on the front. Like the Rhodesians got their hands on it

>>31584939
Yes i would.
Tula or izzy ?

>>31584948
It's a tula, so you can have it and the /k/ izzy

>>31584965
Sweet. I really like mags with character.
If only they could tell stories...


Are you going to be setting up another buy anytime soon ?

>>31584765
Again, very nice.
I'm at ~115 but no 5.45.
Just 7.62 and 12g.

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>>31584257
>>31584308
>>31584346
>>31584712
I just noticed that AK was a milled receiver. Is this something that's just specific to milled Arse guns like in >>31583979 ?

My SLR-104 and 107 came with cleaning rods in their proper place.

>>31585036
Nice. My 7.63x39 game is weak. Now that i have a healthy collection of 5.45 mags that is my new focus.
>fucking saiga is still not done going on week 4

>>31583979
>>31584257
That's interesting. Come to think of it you never really see SAM7SFs with cleaning rods installed. I guess the stock latch spring is in a vulnerable position. When you shoot and AK the cleaning rod jolts back and forth with considerable force. If you look on the bottom of a well used AK-74 muzzle brake you can actually see peening where the cleaning rod has struck it. I guess it can do the same thing in the opposite direction and damage the spring. Kind of seems like it could have been designed to avoid that.

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>>31585039
>>31585126

I've never seen a retaining latch in this position before, mounted on the right like that. Probably necessary to allow for a milled receiver to take and secure a folding stock.

I guess the design makes it so the rifle can't take a full sized cleaning rod.

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>>31585165
After

>>31585152
That folding stock assembly is Bulgaria's signature folder, it's all proprietary, it's used on some Bulgarian military small arms like the AR-M4SF.

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>>31585152
>tfw buying my 107 back in April, one of the shop guys tried to upsell me on a milled Arsenal, calling it the "Cadillac of Arsenals"

>it can't even take a folding stock and a cleaning rod at the same time

I'm glad I didn't fall for the milled meme.

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SOON

>>31585165
>>31585190
So you put a matching upper hand guard ?

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>>31585220
No fuggin way

I'm looking for a good 7.62 AK, any recommendations? I kind of want a fixed stock, should I wait to see if the new VEPR AK is any good?

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>>31585203
>AR-M4SF

See that makes sense though, because you're never going to fit a rod into that little thing anyway.

>>31585240
Been working on one for TWO YEARS. And a few months. Guy says he's almost done.
Don't worry, I'll shitpost in every AKG for a week or so with it.

>>31583948
I don't think it's a terrible purchase. Aside from the weak barrel, the rest of the rifle is combloc. If that ess barrel isn't bump fired or allowed to get real fucking hot it will last 8-10 k rounds. At that point replacing it with a combloc barrel seems trivial.

For end of days senerio look elsewhere, for the occasional shooter, collector, or truck gun it's a great price. If I could go back to 2010 I would buy a whole truck load of amd's for $350. Unused ones can fetch more then a grand on gun joker.

>>31585212
cause you always need the cleaning rod

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>>31585296
Yes. You fuck

You ALWAYS need the cleaning rod.

do 7,62 aks and 5.45 aks share the same furniture?
I know sometimes there is a difference between milled vs stamped

>>31585306
Have you seen the vid of a Brit fighting isis where shit ammo causes a malfunction? Cleaning rod is nessassary

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>>31585086
>My 7.63x39 game is weak.
It doesn't happen overnight.
>Unless you win an auction of some dead guys collection.
There's still a few somewhat "common" ones eluding my collection.
>30rnd Chink bakes, Black Finnish Waffles, 103 slabsides
Beyond the very pricey prototype mags that I just can't bring myself to throw cash at.

Keep at it.

>>31585259
I remember someone posting about waiting on one a long time ago.. If it was you I thought you were bullshitting. Those things are sick

>>31585326
They're compatible

>>31585397
Not bullshitting, just... Waiting. Forever. Total costs for parts, services, the base gun, etc are like 9k. But spread out over three years it doesn't seem so bad.

Mine has ironwood wood furniture and a triangle stock for a more traditional krink look. Going to fakelite an 8 rounder to complete the aesthetic.

I really wish he'd send pics though. I literally have not seen my baby since July of 2014.

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>>31585259
I know the feel of a build taking forever and wanting to shitpost the same pics constantly.

>>31585397
sweet
I might be getting a parts kit then, I'm tempted to try and build my own ak74 and if it goes south I'll still have some other parts left over so it won't be a total waste
anyone have experience with building 74s?

>>31585387
I really want a ak103 mag but havent seen one at a decent price recently

>>31585441
Sounds fishy bro.

>>31585220
>>31585240
>>31585441
Can someone 'splain to me why that's a $9000 gun?

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>>31585490
>>31585387
Slabsides will become more common eventually

>>31585537
I dunno man I didn't know they ran that much

>>31585227
Replaced all the furniture with a matching Romanian m1964 set from apex. Came with the buttstock, handguards, and a bakelite grip.

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>>31581381
Im with you senpai

>>31585552
Those are some sexy long tops.

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>>31581381
>>31585562

Fite me

>>31585510
Yes. Yes it does.
>>31585537
Original gun cost around 2k with mags and other accessories included.
Tax stamp was 200.
All the parts needed (furniture, authentic stock, FCG, dust cover/trunnion assembly, muzzle device, etc) were around 1-2k I don't remember.
Gunsmithing service was around 3k (note: I could've gone way waaaaay cheaper on this, down to about 800, but I told him to TAKE YOUR TIME DO IT RIGHT GO BIG OR GO HOME so I splurged admittedly too much on this).
I forget where the rest came from. Haven't tallied it up in literally two years and doing so is not good for my health.

In short, it's not a $9000 gun. It is not worth $9000. No one will ever buy it for $9000. $9000 is simply what I've dumped into it en grosse.

>>31585613
>but I told him to TAKE YOUR TIME DO IT RIGHT GO BIG OR GO HOME

holy shit dude, he saw you coming a mile away. 3k for gunsmithing is insane for what's being done.
but, as long as you're happy, that's all that matters.
do me a favor. when you go pick it up and pay for it, after you leave and close the door behind you, stand by the closed door and see if you can hear them laughing and high fiving inside.

>>31585699
I know, I know. I'm aware.
But I want it done correctly, period. If that means taking a hit then so be it. I will be holding it to extreme autistic scrutiny and he is aware of that.

Plus I already paid for it a long time ago, so I don't care anymore.

>>31585699
Oh, also, it's not entirely ridiculous. It's not like he's just cutting the barrel and drilling a new gas port, he's basically had to rebuild and fabricate an entirely new gun from a hodgepodge of parts. There's a shit ton of labor involved from hand fitting to machining to straight up creating an entirely new gas system in order to keep the handguards removable so that I can swap them to polymer.

Think of it like any other contractor or craftsman job.

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>>31581347
Updated pic of my dong side folder w/5x primary arms prism

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>>31585592
I can't resist museum grade

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>>31585855
That mag....
Is that a 104 ?

>>31585879
Fug thats nice

So are there any 7.62 AKs worth buying at their current prices or should I just dump that money into more ammo?

I've got a 107 (and a 104) but I want something slightly different. Are underfolders dogshit y/n?

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>>31585911
>107 and 104

Mah nigga.

I'd honestly just get more ammo or mags at this point.

>>31581347
See that bolt, how I put that bolt in my AK?
No shiny bolt anywhere, why bolt no shiny?

>>31586047
just strip the bolt with chemical bluing/rust remover and polish it
that's all the "shiny" bolt carriers are
they're not chormed or anything, they're just steel left in the white

>>31586097
Aren't they stainless?

>>31586115
nope, just bare carbon steel

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>>31586018
>107 and 104

Any reason I should not pick up the ready-to-sbr versions of these guns? Price went up about $100 each, they are now $1300.

I already have a barreled bulgy AKSU kit and a receiver, but it's an older wood/triangle setup. I can always build that later.

>>31586136
Well that's fucking stupid. I want my dreams back.

>>31586163

First tell me how many mags you have for each.

>>31586167
you cloud have one chromed up custom

>>31586178
It would just chip off. Everyone's got me all convinced my bolt carrier sucks and is going to explode at any second because it's cast. So I've been looking for a milled stainless one but they aren't for sale anywhere apparently because they aren't stainless, just crappy, so nobody wants one aftermarket I guess.

I'm going to stop listening to 4chan, every place else says it's a good AK.

>>31584563
Yeah, I'll get it right hopefully :)
>>31584761
Either him or maybe Krebs. Make it Gucci as hell :P

>>31586178
clouds can't do that!

>>31586206
what AK do you have with a cast bolt carrier?
the the steel bolt carriers in the white aren't crappy
several countries used them to good effect, just keep it oiled
if you want a white bolt carrier for the aesthetic, then go for it

I clean my gun meticulously and grease up good with lots of teflon extra slick grease.

Does this increase the risk of peening?
Why is peening bad?

>>31586206
It's not going to explode because it's cast but I assure you it's weaker than a forged carrier. Especially if it's the one with the lightening cuts up top. There have been pictures of them breaking right at those cuts.

I'm pretty sure you could just buy a spare yugo carrier and it would be fine. It's not real stainless but it doesn't seem like many people complain about them rusting. And since it's just raw steel, if it does rust, you don't have to worry about harming the finish, so you can just hit it with a wire brush and clean it right up.

>>31586271
No.
Because it changes the dimensions of parts which may or may not become hazardous or compromised later. But probably not.

Should I go with a palm swell or a donkey dong on my soon to be AMD65? Also, what is a good brand for side rails and what Russian optic should I get? Where do you buy slant brakes?

>>31586268
C39V2, I got it for $700. There is a LOT of hate on it from /k/ because of cast parts if I understood correctly but all the research I've done suggests that only the version 1 was crap. Everyone seems to love the V2, except on /k/. I don't get it.
Anyway, I'm new to AK's obviously and figured I'd just drop in an upgraded bolt carrier like you can do with an AR but that doesn't seem to be how things are done with AK's.

>>31586271
Peening where? Why would that increase the risk? If it's going to peen it will do it with or without the grease. Don't sweat it, there's nothing wrong with keeping your gun clean, you don't need to be like the ARfags who consider mistreating their guns a badge of honor.

>>31586304
C39v2s are g2g but for some reason the RAS47s fall apart. Just be cautious.

>>31586280
Well, that's a very good point. So I should keep an eye on the cuts in the gas tube part of the bolt carrier? That makes more sense, a lot of sense actually. I thought the lightning cuts people were talking about were the scallops in the milled receiver. This actually clears things up a lot.

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>>31585904
Yup, it's a 104. I use the tapco 74 mags for bench shooting. Here's the reticle of that pa scope

>>31586331
Most of the time yes, when people talk about lightening cuts with AKs they usually mean the scallops on the sides, which are there to reduce weight. But those cuts on the bolt carrier are also for the purpose of lightening it. Keep an eye on those cuts for hairline cracks, if you see a crack then it's only a matter of round count until a catastrophic failure. Honestly, those lightening cuts aren't a bad idea but you need a strong bolt carrier to back it up, so keep an eye on them.

I'd like to buy my first AK in the next month, don't know much about them yet but it seems like most of the cheapest ones are from Century and I've heard mixed reviews about them. I don't have a huge budget, but don't mind paying a bit more for quality, so what would the next step up be?

>>31586312
It seems a lot of people barely lube or clean their AK's meanwhile I'm reducing the friction of all the parts so it stands to reason bolt velocity might increase, or at least that's where the question was coming from but you've answered it so thank you. I've noticed a shiny square on the back of the carrier where it hits the back of the receiver. I guess that's normal, I also read it's normal for the spur on the back to deform a little which is just bizarre for that to be normal, like AK's just beat themselves to death.

where did you guys find the plum furniture?
I want a set but I can't seem to find any online

>>31586382
I have a c39v2 I got in a trade, and other than having the stamp on the side it seems like a decent AK, but I haven't put that many rounds through it yet, and the majority of the complaints seem to be coming from wear on the internals

>>31586385
got mine on ebay, shipped straight from russia

>>31586382
WASR-10, N-PAP, DDI

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>>31586385
eBay.

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It got lewd earlier kiddos.

>>31586383
Oh I see where you're coming from, but I doubt it makes a big enough difference to be concerned. As long as your rifle is properly gassed and the parts are properly made it shouldn't be a problem at all. A little bit of deformation in those areas is perfectly normal, if it becomes excessive then there is a problem that needs diagnosing. Even fantastically made AKs will beat themselves up when you shoot them. The finish on the bolt carrier is pretty much toast after the first 200 rounds. It's all part of the experience.

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>>31586465
>when the buttstock doesn't match the front handguard

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>>31586382
>>31586405
I've been asking and if you look through the last 20 posts or so, Chimps has enlightened me that the concern with the C39V2 is centered around the possibility that the weight reducing cut outs in the bolt carrier could potentially crack due to them being a weak spot and the bolt carrier being cast instead of milled.
That's if I got that right?
Also, the cast bolt carrier is something that some people may have had issues with it being soft or showing wear? I'm not sure.

I'm not saying it's a bad gun, I got one for $700 because it seemed like a deal and I never had an AK. The online reviews seem to be overwhelmingly positive as a whole too, see below but if I had it to do over, I'd spend a few hundred more and get an Arsenal. Honestly, didn't think I would enjoy shooting an AK so much but I like it a lot more than my AR. It's cheaper to shoot, easier to clean and the irons are more fun to shoot with.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYgXjYICWDY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADGovj4drwI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecMwMdp94Vs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iJTU_D1nd0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAMiqJm6li0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4w3PibNhNgo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yazx214_PJU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUfp4LJpazA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QW9N0mwY0A#t=250
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPkq356ZyiY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADGovj4drwI&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6s9LN1rlc8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4V1LtR9WoEk&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKv9ZGg6orc&feature=youtu.be

>>31586486
It actually matches a lot better than in the pic, my shitty HTC camera likes to oversaturate for some reason, looks a lot better in person. Aftermath pic uploading.

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>>31586486
i also have that austim
>pic related

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>>31581347
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCUMv120oCw

"What is it like to fire an AR-15? It’s horrifying, menacing and very very loud.

It felt to me like a bazooka — and sounded like a cannon.

But mostly, I was just terrified.

Squeeze lightly on the trigger and the resulting explosion of firepower is humbling and deafening (even with ear protection).

The recoil bruised my shoulder, which can happen if you don't know what you're doing. The brass shell casings disoriented me as they flew past my face. The smell of sulfur and destruction made me sick. The explosions — loud like a bomb — gave me a temporary form of PTSD. For at least an hour after firing the gun just a few times, I was anxious and irritable."

Gersh Kuntzman
Globalist Propagandist
New York Daily News

>>31586497
theres a picture of a c39v2 bolt carrier on akfiles that snapped in half because of the lightning cut
>inb4 sauce

>>31586469
Thanks so much for the help.

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Am I the only one who thinks AK's look weird without any wear on them? That fully fresh bluing...

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>>31586465
Here's the after pic. The buttstock and handguard are around the same color IRL but it could be just slightly darker, but it still looks pretty good.

So much more sex than RAS 47-tier Americunt wood.

>>31586299
Anyone?

>>31586175

I have a lot of AK mags. If I had to guess:

5.45
20 RPK Bakelite
5 - circle 10 waffle 45s
50 - bulgy 30s
30 - plum 30s

7.62:
soem russian metal 40s
40 - assorted steel 30s
40 - Bakelite 30s
6 - buly waffle
A few Chinese drums

>>31586606
nice dent in your mag you America hating ass hat..

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What's the deal with plum colored furniture?

>>31586625
It's a shitty Korean steel mag. Have new mags coming in the mail.

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>>31586640
dunno

>>31586606
>>31586641
I thought those Korean mags were waaay lighter gray

>>31586666
theres shiny black ones that have 'korean' on the floor plate (and no reinforce feed lips)

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>>31586549
no problem man

>>31586666
>>31586681

It was light grey but I spraypainted it because the light grey looked like shit.

>>31586465
>>31586606

So correct me if I'm wrong, is that a GP WASR-10?

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>>31586641
Glad to see the polish laminate worked out for you! Plan to finish installing the trapdoor in the stock?

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What are some good movies or TV shows with some good AK porn besides pic related?

>>31586703
Yep, it's a new gen Cugir WASR 10
>>31586705
I might install the trapdoor if I find a cheap buttplate online, did your kit arrive like your pic or was it also oh so slightly off like mine?

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>>31586713
red dawn is neat to see Maadi's dressed up as AKS-74's

>>31586736
Looks way better with the new furniture senpai.

Word of advice, leave the slant brake, you'll appreciate it's lightness, and the fact that it allows you to mount your bayonet.

Do throw some optics on it, preferably something delightfully slavy.

>>31586736
I didn't use the buttstock, I had a spare that happened to match and already had a trapdoor. The stocks that came on the old WASR 10/63's also match quite well.

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>>31586545

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>>31586770
Had no intention to remove the slant, I want it to look as AKM-y as possible.

In terms of optics some dude said he'd sell me a Chinese POSP for $120 but I'm not sure if I should go for it or not. Pic related.

>>31586821
>chinese posp
Nah.

>>31586800
>>31586705
>>31586465
>>31584774
>>31583979
>>31583798
Beige carpet for everybody!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZQdaEFa_60

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>>31586854
Your beige carpet must become intimately acquainted with every gun and milsurp item you own.

>>31586905
>AK9 handguard
>AK103 mag
>thumbshelf safety but without the faggotass bolt hold open notch
>K6-3(?)
>Spetsnaz machete
A+

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>>31586905

>tfw instead of playing the rare pepe mag game, I just bought a couple dozen Hungarian steel mags to round me up to 30

I mean, I feel kinda smart since they're been sold out on SGAmmo for ages now, but I still feel like a pleb. Solid mags though, those Hungarians, I will admit.

So i dont own an AK buy ive been passivly looking to buy one. I found on my local armslist and WASR 10 + 40 rounds for 575, is that a decent deal?

Note the wood furniture was painted black at some point.

Think i could samd that down and refinish it?

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>>31586998
Yeah, K6-3. My power level is growing. Out of that photo I might be most proud of the original SPOSN sheath for the machete, those little shits are hard to track down.

>>31587043
Hungarian mags have never let me down.

>>31587111
That's a good deal these days and you could definitely unfuck the wood

>>31587120
Yeah I don't think I had ever seen one of those before. Very cool man

>>31587120
What surplus mags have let you down?

>>31586998
i hate krebs so much

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>>31587154
a very loose Polish one

>>31587134
One of these days I'll lay some stuff out and try to take a nice photo that isn't on beige carpet.

>>31586612

>20 RPK Bakelite

I want to do this.

>>31583596

>Petronov

scumbag employee's do your research

>high standard

Literal unknown garage builder

>DDI

Scumbag CEO and questionable quality, muh ddi12 better then a VEPR

>Lee armory

scumbag employees, and lied to the ATF about a competitor to cause trouble


>Definitive arms

overpriced just like RD

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>>31581407
Real AMDs are awesome AKs, but Classic builds are pretty disgusting.

>>31584298
Now THIS is sexy.

>>31581689
>Refinished
>No carving
>Not on an authentic rifle
>"best"
one of the better jokes I've read all day.

>>31586560
They definitely look better when worn; doesn't hurt to also have nice wood on the rifle rather than the shit wood that you find on most American consumer rifles.

>>31587241
>DDI
>Scumbag CEO and questionable quality, muh ddi12 better then a VEPR
Why don't you go buy a few more PSA AKs and talk about how much better they are than DDIs, AKFiles fag.

>>31587134
thanks!

>>31587043

I only ordered a few when I bought my first AK and I'm sort of regretting not just scooping up a whole bunch.

Enjoying the PTR? I'm considering snagging one as my last rifle before the election but I'd have to get into another caliber.

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>>31587248


>Not knowing DDI is making PSA's guns


Rust and all haha.

>>31587260

The PTR is very well built. Would recommend.

Get the GI model with the rail up top. And a shitload of mags, since they're cheap as fuck.

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>>31587261
>Under the supervision
I guess you probably can't read though, seeing as you're retarded and all.

>>31587111
pretty good deal.

sure just make sure you reseal it with something like linseed oil, or weatherseal. just dont start too agressive with the sandpaper. there used to be a paint stripping solution that would take damn near all finishes off without fucking up the wood like brake fluid does. ask at a paint store for the best stripper they have.

or put magpul furniture on it if you like that stuff.

>>31587270

Yeah, that's the exact one I was looking at. Kinda sucks to put off another ammo order but not having a battle rifle in my stable bugs the shit out of me.

should I sell my c39v2 for a npap or something else?

>>31587291

It's not picky with ammo. And the best part is the initial investment is quite low as far as good rifles go.

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>Wife decides it'll be fun for each of us to pick a tattoo for the other based on their likes
>Neither of us have tattoos, she thinks it'll be fun for us each to get our first
>I pick a paw print from one of our cats, she loves it and wants to do it
>She picks this
I'm not sure if I should do it.

>>31587289
im not much into magpul, ill probably try to refinish it, ive stripped paint before just not on gun furniture.

>>31587383
yeah some people arent feeling the magpul ak stuff.

it shouldnt be any different than regular refinishing, unless the people that put it on, mixed in catalyst and hardener like durakote does.

i hope you can score it for that much, the dickheads where i live want diamonds for fucking trashed guns. like the fucking faggot that tried to sell an AK that he had ran over with his superduty for full retail.

>>31587410
I was also wondering about putting a Romanian side folding stock? How well would that go? Id probably wtill refinish the stock for options.

>>31587277
whats this say?

>>31587374
do it faget

how hard are the triangle folding stocks to install? I'd prefer not to alter the receiver in any way

>>31587493
>how hard are the triangle folding stocks to install? I'd prefer not to alter the receiver in any way
You literally need an entirely different rear trunnion.

I wanna learn a bunch more about the platform. All my knowledge comes from my Fudd father who never respected aks. His experience begins and ends in the 80s with one case he bought shot and sold. So what are the different tiers, and prices associated. I'd want reliable and more accurate than the memes suggest.

>>31587543
slr107 slr104 slr106 vepr norinco saiga
>good luck

>>31587543
IO Inc
RAS47
Century M74

All great rifles that hold true to the "AKs are supposed to be cheap and utterly reliable" meme

>>31581474
Seeing as how there isn't an AMD 63, I guess that leaves only one option

>>31587619
.....................................................................................................................................................................you're joking, right?

>>31581484
Is it just me, or does the magwell dimple look really long on this rifle?

>>31587827
It's an Arsenal thing, I believe the past year or so people have noticed a weird looking / shallow dimple.

>>31587826
pretty sure it was obvious bait

>>31587827
no its fine, the image is stretch/squashed and the rifle looks slightly thinner overall

>>31587843
It is fine, but no, it is shallower/longer/thinner overall, nothign to do with the image.

>>31586271

Put a extra power recoil spring in it, and a com bloc hammer.

>>31587859

fail.

>>31587851
there is no way you can tell me that the width of that AK's receiver is proper.

The camera clearly fucked up the perspective in that pic

>>31587277
Did you smash your rear long rivets with a ball peen hammer or something?

>>31585613
I hope he lets you fuck his wife after and bust inside twice daily for a month for that kind of money, Jesus Christ.

>>31587277
Early romy, I got a cool hardware set of furniture with my kit 1964CD1743

>>31587923
*hardwood

>>31587884
it's a common thing people have noticed, calm down broseph, it doesn't hurt any guns to have a little wierdness about their dimples.

http://www.akfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=243319

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>>31587930
>Not welding and smoothing over the Clinton FCG holes

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>>31588002
its at the smith right now. Im having rivets put in, and the bolt hold open welded shut.

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>>31587291
>mfw I got 16 G3 mags shipped for $54

Why can't AK mags be this cheap?

>>31581347
I really want an m92 as a hiking gun. Is it too late?

>>31585612
>not accepting Kek's holy blessing

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>>31587900
No? They look fine to me.

>>31587923
Nice. Really love my Romy.

is the polish wbp build on atlantic atm worth the $1k it's being sold as?

>>31585220
>>31585240
is this in 12guage?

>>31588240
hey how do you put that triangle stock on?

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>>31588327
remove pin, put stock on, replace pin. really easy.

>>31588336
I have a c39v2, so I dunno if it's that easy
what stock is it? I feel like it would be uncomfortable to shoot, I have the fixed magpul one right now, debating on just getting the plum set from arsenal

>>31588349
A c39v2 will not fit a triangle stock without gunsmithing.

>>31588379
what would I have to do? it takes stamped furniture apparently

>>31588387
Replace the rifle with a stamped one, the receiver is too different on a milled unless you get goofy adapter that give yeti length of pull

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>>31588349
Don't bother putting a triangle stock on there, if you want a folding stock that bad try and find a wire stock like pic related. They are usually Romanian.

>>31588419
Also have a folding rear trunion.

New thread

>>31588787

>>31588787

>>31588787