Hi /k/, frenchman here, obviously not familiar with your board,

>non lethal
You will fucking die if you depend on "non lethal" defense against armed angry muzzies. Take advantage of Schengen, take a trip to the Balkans, and get an AK.

>>31579791
What about tasers? Knives? Illegal to carry as well?

I guess you could always carry a huge flashlight to use as a baton, but that would be rather awkward. Your best solution would just to be careful and learn when/where to walk and better yet not walk out in some dark alley by yourself.

Also, from my understanding, France is better than most Eurocuk countries as it comes to firearms.

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>Asking for self defense advice
>Frogs, Krauts and Brits
>Every time
The answer is also always the same, big padlock with bandana. Feel free to change the padlock to any other heavy shit that you can attach to the bandana.

Also voto Marie next year.

>>31579861
Baguexitte can't happen soon enough.

Get the fuck out of where you live right now, move to a decent neighborhood or leave the city and also do this >>31579836.

Civil war in France when? You don't want to get caught between the crossfire.

>discreet, efficient, non lethal and incapacitating weapon

Ça n'existe pas.

Si tu n'étais pas un trou du cul, tu te serais armé il y a des années en arrières, malgré le processus ultra emmerdant, et tu porterais un pistolet de catégorie B en permanence, peu importe les lois.
Mais tu es un con, et tu va te faire crever par Mohammed et Abdul dans une ruelle sombre de ta ville de merde. Une victime de plus sur l'hôtel du socialisme, de l'égalité, du multiculturalisme et de l'anti-racisme.

Je te souhaite seulement de ne pas agoniser trop longtemps.

Ciao.

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>be /k/raut
>still have to wait until the middle of october for my weapons permit

I feel tense

>>31579843

Yes, everything is illegal to carry

About the laws, yes it's easy to get a firearm, not a lot of background check, but you can't carry it with you.

And if you get caught carrying one (ready to draw, not in a case), you'll be sent to prison instantly.

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>>31579870
>EUending can't happen soon enough.
fixed mate. We need to get border control back and tell the European bureaucrats to fuck off.

>>31579881

>porter un pistolet en permanence, peu importe les lois

Okay Batman, call me back when you stop being an edgy teenager

>>31579908
I genuinely don't understand how France continues to keep its population disarmed after they were shown how fucking useless a disarmed population was during the Nazi occupation.

>>31579836
it's about protection, not engaging in a fucking war, jesus

>>31579945
This attitude is why you are losing. Europe is being invaded and occupied by tens of thousands of Muslims who can get black market select fire weapons and you think a fucking baton is enough.

>>31579933
>socialist always think of the poor paradise
>wanting people to be able to protect themselves
One does not go with the other.

>>31579958
some frogs are preserve baguette frogs tho.
video related

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uN7JO0pRB1c

>>31579933
The reason the government disarmed them after WWII was because they didn't trust most of those who resisted German occupation. The resistance was full of communists and Marxists.

>>31579958
OP is some delusional leftard who asks if anyone knows of a weapon that would keep the poor unprivilege immigrants of north african descent away from him while not hurting their bodies and other leftists' feelings.

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didn't think the thread would derail so fast.

>only relevant answer is "a padlock and a bandana"

c'mon /k/

>>31579999
Lol no. The French were disarmed by a leftist government in 1939. Commies sucked nazi dicks at full force until operation barbarossa began and then they started to pretend to be resistants.

>>31580016
No I was thinking about not going to prison.

The self defense law is really shitty in France.

>if someone attacks you with a knife and you shoot him, you're in the wrong, cause "the reaction was not proportionate"

shitty laws, gotta find a way around them

>>31579958
>tens of thousands of Muslims

millions*

>>31580062
France is dumb.
There is absolutely no reason lethal force should not be legally met with lethal force.

>>31580062
>shitty laws, gotta find a way around them
Start voting out and/or killing judges and legislators until the laws change.

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>>31580032
Dude that option is all you need. You can carry it everywhere, it's not a weapon and you can lock something if you need to. For a country like France is the best option. That or some steel pen that you can use as kubotan.

Also carry some IFAK, have good situational awareness and get fit. And by fit I don't mean you to be the next Arnold. Train to run fast, jump high and punch hard. Being an 250lb roided that can't move will get you stabbed to death.

>>31580088
>be french
>home invasion in the middle of the night
>invader has a machete
>take my shotgun and shoot him
>he's dead
>they send me to prison
>surrounded with dindus
>getting assraped

Such is life in France

>>31579791
A passport

>>31580110
>Start voting out and/or killing judges and legislators until the laws change.
That seems a nice you to get you life imprisonment and even stricter self defense laws.

>>31579791
>Because even pepper spray is illegal
No it's not. As long as it's less than 100ml, it's cat. D, free ownership. Because absolutely EVERYTHING is a cat. D weapon (as an arme par destination). This category is mainly here for clarification about some aggravating circumstances for offenses, like assault with a weapon.

French law is badly done (as in fucking vague since the NCP came), but the worst issue is the complete ignorance of most of the french population.

Anyways, why are you so afraid of breaking the law for a self defense weapon, when you have to choose between a 750€ fine (if a cop searches you and really wants to fuck you, which is only possible if he caught you on the act according to the law) and getting gangbanged by "groups of youth".

>>31580062
There is no way around. Either you carry a weapon or you don't. Some objects can be used as weapons while looking inconspicuous such as a padlock, a chain, a maglite, as they've already been mentionned in this thread and many others. That's it, there isn't any super secret weapon that you'll find about here.

>>31580135
If you can't legally defend yourself against lethal force you are not free, and have an inherent right to replace your government with one that will let you defend yourself.

>>31580125
He doesn't even need a passport to leave to safer countries within Europe. Places like Iceland, Denmark, Portugal, Austria top the list of safest countries and are within a few hours of driving.

>>31580136
OP said pepper spray was illegal to carry (just like any weapon in France), not to own. And he was right on this one.
But yeah, he's stupid to be scared about carrying one when there is litterally zero risk for a white guy to be frisked by the police.

>>31580155
I didn't knew /k/ was full of young idealists. Refreshing

>>31580181
tr. never been to France

>>31580233
Je suis français, tête de con.

>>31579791
Honestly OP, your thread is shit.

>what can i carry to defend myself
>everything is illegal
>doesn't give any further information

Just carry around a stale baguette and beat dindus with it. You have nothing.

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>>31580181
>zero risk for a white guy
A fucking white male
Tell that to that dude who was caught buying a shitton of weaponry

>>31580248
et tu t'es jamais fait contrôlé ? tu dois avoir une bonne tête de bolosse. imberbe, 60 Kg et cheveux longs, me trompe-je ?

>>31580261
okay, the information would be :
>I need something as efficient as a weapon
>non lethal
>and which doesn't LOOK like a weapon, this is the most important part

>>31580173
>iceland
>few hours of driving
Anon...

>>31580299
idk, like a taser gun which looks like an external hard drive or something, disguised weapons you know

>>31579791
Les couilles ça ne s'achète pas désolé mon gros

>>31579945
Its already a war you dumb frog fuck. You already are a pussy about to get fucked if that your mentality and you likely won't use your non-lethal weapon with enough force and decisiveness anyway and will just catch a worse beating. You don't have a fighter's mindset. You have a scared metrosexual's mindset and it'll end badly for you. Generation Identity you faggot. Go join up. And get a knife.

>>31580279
Non, je ne suis jamais fait contrôlé, j'imagine que je n'ai pas la tête des nouveaux français. Et pour ton information, une fouille corporelle ne peut être faite qu'en cas de flagrant délit, enquête préliminaire avec accord de la personne ou commission rogatoire.

>>31580317
In the case of Iceland is a few hours driving to the nearest airport, but he can still drive a couple hours and be in Austria, half a day and be in Denmark or a couple more hours and be in Portugal.

Aren't you niggers allowed to own rifles and military weapons as long as they aren't select-fire or chambered in an adopted military round?

>>31580341
un autre internet tough guy sur /k/
j'ai l'impression d'être sur jeuxvideos.com y'a 10 ans. Je m'inquiète pour la moyenne d'age de ce board

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>>31580365
>Et pour ton information, une fouille corporelle ne peut être faite qu'en cas de flagrant délit, enquête préliminaire avec accord de la personne ou commission rogatoire

MDR t'es jamais allé dans un stade toi, t'es jamais sorti non plus visiblement

>>31579791
How many times in your life have you ever been patted down, OP?
Were there ANY when you didn't see it coming from a mile away?

Just carry a weapon illegally and be careful.

>>31580365
Je me suis deja fait fouillé dans le transilien juste parce que je correspondais au signalement d'un gars que les flics cherchaient.

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What about a black powder revolver ?
In France you only need to show an ID to buy one, no permit is needed yet.
It's too bad there aren't black powder threads on /k/, I've always thought about buying one since it's relatively easy to get, but it's hard to get advice.

>>31580386
Je te parle de fouille dans la rue et tu me parles de palpation dans un événement de plus de 1500 personnes. Aller arrête pauvre guignol.

>>31580299
Pepper spray disguised as not-pepper-spray would be your best bet, if you can find/make that

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>2001+15
>be french
>not carrying a guillotine
it's like you don't even like popular justice.

>>31580432
OP doesn't have the balls to carry any weapon, because he is afraid of breaking shitty laws. Read the thread.

>>31580432
get an antique that takes cartridges, like a webly or french 1892

>>31579791
roll of coins

>>31580499
I think that cartridges automatically puts it in the upper category, making it much more difficult to obtain.
But maybe you're right. I'll re-check the texts.

>tfw not removing kebab with an '86 Lebel

>>31580499
>webly or french 1892

Both weapons aren't considered antiques despite having been designed before 1900, because they are on a list of exceptions. They are in category B, alongside modern handguns such as a Glock. Yep.

OP, you're facing three very distinct realities here. Say you're coming back home from your full time job at the gay bar back to your shitty neighbourhood in Saint-Denis. You unfortunately bump into Rashid and his friends Jamal and Momo, so you're outnumbered three to one, on top of being a limpwristed faggot. They demand your wallet. What do you do?
>1. You have no means to defend yourself. You oblige their request, and hand in your wallet. You get home humiliated and pennyless, but your body is intact.
>2. You pull out your fantasy self-defence weapon. Let's say it's pepper spray disguised as a dildo. After all, you do sound like a massive faggot. Rashid and co. are not intimidated. After all, it doesn't look like a weapon, so it's clearly harmless. You aim the dildo at Rashid, pull the trigger and dispense pepper spray all over his dumb face. He's incapacitated, but his two friends are quick to react and tackle you to the ground, where they pummel your face with kicks and punches until you're very much dead. Evidently, they have, from their perspective, every right to avenge their buddy Rashid.
>3. You pull out a lethal weapon. Realistically, it's going to be a knife, or a matraque, or, even better, a black powder revolver. All of these are available for your purchasing enjoyment right now. You just have to be 18 years of age. So you pull out your snubnose 1858 Remington repro out of your bumbag. You cock the hammer and point it at Rashid. It looks like a gun, albeit a antiquated one, but a gun nonetheless. Moreover, lead balls are clearly visible in the chambers from your assailants' perspective. Here, two things can happen: a. Rashid and co. are intimidated. They either run or step aside to let you on your way. So there. If you need a weapon, go for an actual weapon-looking weapon

If you guys want a practical solution, just mail yourself some death threats and ask the prefecture for a handgun carry permit (décret n° 2013-700 aart.129)

>>31580181
When everything is illegal, nothing is illegal. Cat D is everything that can represent a danger to public order. That includes stones and sticks. Your chances of getting a fine for carrying pepper spray are lower than your chances of getting hit by a meteorite, unless you act like a complete retard and threaten someone in front of the cops.

>litterally zero risk for a white guy to be frisked by the police.
honhonhonhon. I have a different experience.
Frisking by anything other than a cop is illegal until you're caught commiting an offense or want to attend to a manifestation with more than 1500 persons in it, btw. Doesn't prevent mall cops and train attendants from doing so, but they back off when you know the law.
Same thing with searches: It's illegal unless your caught in the act. Most cop will order you to open your bag, and then you'll be considered to have accepted the search if you comply.
Know your law, anons, it's your best defense.

>>31580121
You got a shitty lawyer then, self-defense is presumed in France for home intrusions at night.

>>31580039
The two aren't mutually exclusive.
There were tons of weapons in France right after ww2, as in every warzone. My uncle used to play with grenades all the time in the late '40s.
And even today, France is one of the coutries with the highest number of illegal firearms by capita.

>>31580521
>Both weapons aren't considered antiques despite having been designed before 1900, because they are on a list of exceptions. They are in category B, alongside modern handguns such as a Glock. Yep.

Wrong. The civilian variant of the 1892 is considered an antique. The MAS variant is classified as a Cat B. Understandably, the civvie variant costs an arm and a leg, so you might as well go for black powder.

It must suck that all your alpha male protector class citizens died off in 2 world wars and all that's left are beta fucking cucks. That's ok though because Mouhammed is about to fuck your women and you'll have strong men in your country again but they won't look like you or share your values.

>>31580432
>What about a black powder revolver ?
Long arms are far more effective in home defense-scenarios. Furthermore, getting caught carrying a black powder revolver is legally comparable to getting caught with a modern self-loading pistol - why gimp yourself for no advantage? In short: bad for HD, bad for carrying. Don´t trust it with your life.

>>31580547
They are already here. Just look at those strong muslim men carrying yugoslavian weapons of war around and killing hundreds of people without giving a fuck while francucks like OP are scared to carry a fucking pepper spray because the law forbids it.
There is just no hope for white people. I understand why white women go for muslims.

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Legit question, what was Op expecting people to recommend him? I mean if you can't legally carry a gun or knife you either break the law or carry stuff like working tools and random heavy shit that can be used to defend yourself against one maybe two thugs.

Other than that there isn't some crazy space age lightsaber that you can magically pull out of your ass to get muzzies rekt.

>>31580538
>self-defense is presumed in France for home intrusions at night.

What about that thing about how you have to store your weapons in a safe, but opening the safe in case of an invasion voids the self-defense case ?
Maybe it's just a legend though.

>>31580523
Are there any black powder replicas that are considered the best ?
Also, what about switching barrels or using paper "cartridges" ? Do those actually work ?

>>31579881
Du calme gars, tu préférerais qu'il soit un putain d'antifa de merde en mode "refugiees welcome" accueille un allié quand tu en vois un.

Black powder op

>>31579992
>fat, ugly, inbred white trash takes out his shitty hunting semi-auto shotgun limited to 2+1 rounds for two seconds before shitting his pants and hiding it

Absolutely disgusting.

>>31580631
Uberti 1858 New Model Army.
>no stuck caps
>quick change cylinders
>reliable
>accurate
>comes in 5.5in barrel for easy concealment

Why follow an unjust law? Just carry them anyway and dress like a respectable member of the community. In my country (Belgium) the police won't ever search you randomly. I carried a fairbarn sykes dagger around, and despite it's an incredible safe country, I needed it once and it saved me from a serious whooping.

It our right to have firearms and weapons to defend yourself. If a right is not given to you, you must take it. That is exactly why someone who is totally NOT me bought an illegal gun.

Don't underestimate the danger of getting your head kicked in a fight. They will always attack in group, and always keep kicking if you're down

>>31579791
Go to belgium buy an illegal glock 19. Shoot your attacker walk away. Your incompetent police will never catch u.

>>31580691
When will French legislators close the black-powder loophole? They´re bound to do it sooner rather than later.

>>31580115
>run fast, jump high
The French already have a name for this: parkour!

>>31580588

They don't "go" for Muslim men, they get raped by them.

>>31580538
>If you guys want a practical solution, just mail yourself some death threats and ask the prefecture for a handgun carry permit (décret n° 2013-700 aart.129)

HAHAHAHA no.

You know who else requested a CC permit?

Motherfucking Charb. While he was under H24 police protection.

They denied him. In France carrying permits are only a thing if you're a high ranked politician with the right connections.

>>31580686
t.nigger, muzzie or leftist faggot.

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>>31580698
>incredible safe country
>mfw

>>31580523
You forgot
>3bis. Rashid and friends also have knives, you gut one while the others stab you and leave you bleeding on the road.

>>31580631
>Maybe it's just a legend though.
It is.
Honestly, just keep your weapon under your bed. Nobody's gonna look if you actually lock your weapons in the safe or not. As long as you say "I heard noises and got my weapon in my safe just in case, which was lucky because he assaulted me as soon as he saw me. My life was in danger so I had no other choice but to shoot him". The only error you can make is say you only wanted to wound him, because involuntary offences can't be covered by self defense. Voluntary killing yes, unvoluntary manslaughter no.

>>31580655
La connerie ne fait pas de distinction en fonction de l'idéologie.

Some other Frenchfag here.

In the end it's all about calculated risk.

You could carry unconspicuous improvized weapons such as pens, bandana/padlocks, carbiners, rolls of coins, triplex belts, bike chains "for cosmetic purposes", umbrellas, crutches, glass bottles...
Pros : no troubles with the cops unless you act like a retard, might boost your confidence slightly.
Cons : they are all poor weapons and won't do you much good in a self defense situation, especially if you're up against more than one guy. Unless you're very well trained with them, but then that means you do krav maga or something and the improvized weapon becomes secondary.

You could carry a knife "illegally". A lot of people actually carry knives for utility purposes and are perfectly fine.
If cops catch you with it they might confiscate it, and they could give you more trouble if they wanted. It's kind of a grey zone and really depends of who you are and which cop you meet. Of course they never fuck with your grandpa's Opinel, but a younger guy with a more "tactical" knife might be another story.
You probably won't get serious legal troubles for just carrying a knife around. Getting caught using it is another story.
Anyway a knife won't save you against a group of determined attackers, but it's still a good step over your bare hands or a shitty improvized weapons. It can be a good deterrant, nobody wants to get stabbed.
I'd go for something "civilian looking" and not too expensive so I don't cry if I lose it or if it gets confiscated. You might have to discard it if you end up actually sticking someone too.

You could carry a handgun illegally. Could be a cat. B or D pistol you got legally, or one of the many illegal guns floating around in France.
Of course handguns are the best for personal protection, but you will have to live with the constant fear of getting caught and facing serious trouble. To me it's not worth it.

Continued.

>>31580743
Next month, with the new EU gun ban. Category D won't exist anymore, every single black powder or antique weapon will require a license and will have to be registered and stored in a safe. Same thing for tarter pistols, airguns, etc.

>>31580810
>US murder rate 4.8
>Belgium murder rate 1.7

Pretty safe m8

>>31580698
>fairbarn sykes dagger
obligatory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDGHKyB3T_U

>>31580821
SOURCE NOW
I'm just starting to go to militaria expositions with the sole purpose of starting an antique revolver collection

>>31580829
>Inb4 muuuh niggers

>>31580821
Was planning on a rem 58, dont have the money right now, fuck

>>31580848
>inb4 facts
Is what you meant.

>>31580865
But I thought Europe was doomed and already overrun by diversity ???

>>31580821
Shit, really ?
Do I have to hurry then ?

So you can't carry a knife at all in frogland? No matter the size, fixed or locking mechanisms? Them you guys are even worse than Britbongistan tier.

>>31580885
It is. And it's going to be.

And so is the US. And remember, you're the reason it happened. Stupid, sarcastic assholes who close their eyes and pretend nothing is happening until it's too late.

Spineless people shouldn't be allowed to live.

>>31579791
learn stick fighting, carry a cane.

>>31580698
>Why follow an unjust law?
Your run-of-the-mill street thug may well be armed and intent on killing you for a completely nonsensical reason, and if you aren´t armed, you´ll most likely die in such a confrontation. If you carry an illegal firearm, however, you will most likely survive such a confrontation, but at a serious cost; a few years in the slammer is nothing to scoff at for a married man with kids and a career, which, honestly, is the road most often traveled by average joe.

It all boils down to principle versus pragmatism. Carrying a firearm for one´s defense is a morally justifiable action, but when weighed against the negative legal, life-alterting consequences of drawing said firearm (and, god forbid, firing it) as a Frenchman in France, choosing to obey the law is the safest and simplest action to take - after all, most of us do not live in areas where street thugs murder their victims.

>>31580885
>Europe
Europe is not a single country you fuck. Comparing shit like France/Belgium and Poland/Slovakia are two totally different things.

>>31580931
You brought this upon yourselves, yuropleb.

Godspeed though

>>31580815
"Firefighter" knives with window pike and seatbelt cutter usually get a free pass too, in my experience.
Same with activities that require a knife like sailing or speleology.

>>31580848
Are you stupid or merely delusional? "Muh niggers" is a valid response. The US murder rate is comparable to that found in most European countries, after black-on-black crime is factored out of the equation.

White urban America is safer than Fritzl´s cellar.

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>>31580815
Cont.

In the end, whatever you carry or not is useless without situational awareness. You have to learn to watch your back, know your surrondings, change route of you spot suspicious people, look around for potential weapons and of course avoid rough neighbourhoods and late hours if possible. I know it's kind of infuriating to be denied the freedom to go anywhere, anytime, but that's the way things are.
Talk to women about it and you'll notice they naturally learn to do it because of how much more threatened they feel whenever walking alone.

Being reasonably fit is useful too, because if possible running away is always the best options. But when you can't do that for whatever reason (broken leg, heavy bag, being with a child/elder/woman), watching your surrondings and using your brain is all you have left. And it goes a long way, as criminals tend to spot and target uneprepared people.

>>31580829
>comparing a non-country with a small, homogenous, 90%+ white population with the US
Not only are you wrong about the statistics, but you also reason in the way expected of a child: an adult would not rely on an abstract concept to defend himself/herself when the going gets rough. You might as well arm yourself with a bible, hoping to scare off your attackers with the power of prayer. An imbecile - that´s what you are.

>>31579958
Firearms are VERY rare here. i used to live in a "cité", a really shitty place full of drug dealers etc... Even the regular thiefs and muggers don't have a gun here. Only organized criminals \ big fishs have guns.. You never deal with them anyway

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>>31581039
Damage control, the post

>>31581043
>Firearms are VERY rare here. i used to live in a "cité", a really shitty place full of drug dealers etc... Even the regular thiefs and muggers don't have a gun here.
Them not carrying a weapon does not imply they do not own one.
> Only organized criminals \ big fishs have guns..
Jesus Christ, your ignorance is astounding. Newsflash: illegal firearms number in the millions in Frogland, and are available to anyone with a few thousand euros to spare.

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>>31581039
>Belgium
>homogenous
>90%+ white
If that's what the official statistics are, then so be it, but the reality looks very different.

>>31580925
Officially you can't, even a one inch keychain folder.

In reality a lot of people carry Opinels, Laguioles, Swiss Army knives and various other folders for utility and are okay. Going after everyone would be impossible and useless.

But you can get in trouble for it given the right circumstances. Like I said, it's a bit of a gamble if you don't look "normal" enough.
Forget about it if you're a nigger, an arab of a skinhead.

I don't think you'd ever get in trouble for having a kitchen knife in your lunchbox though.

>>31580990
I don't see the relevance of that "answer". Blacks are a large part of the population of the USA, and that's not going to change. ""IF"" you removed them from the statistics, your country MIGHT have a comparable murder rate. But what if those comparable als deducted their minorities from those stats? You can't just do that. Facts are per 100 000 people, 2.8 times as many people are murdered in USA than Belgium

>>31581079
>he lacks reading comprehension
I repeat: when black-on-black crime is factored out, America is as "safe" (on paper) as your non-country. The "whiteness" of said countries is a moot point.

PS. I don´t take insult from your petty attempts at agitating me - I´m not American.

>>31581117
>. Blacks are a large part of the population of the USA
13%, and they commit nearly 50% of all murders. They´re few and violent.
> ""IF"" you removed them from the statistics, your country MIGHT have a comparable murder rate.
WOULD, not MIGHT.
>But what if those comparable als deducted their minorities from those stats?
Speak english.

>Facts are per 100 000 people, 2.8 times as many people are murdered in USA than Belgium
Here´s a fact: youré an illiterate moron who confuses "my opinion is" with "fact".

>>31581123
>I repeat: when black-on-black crime is factored out
Not even that guy but doing that is retarded. It's like saying if we took gypsies, kebabs and criminals out of the equation then the murder rate here is 0.1 per 100K.

>>31579881
>sur l'hôtel du socialisme
l'autel*


perso j'habite a marseille et j'ai un 92S dans ma veste H24

>>31580317
It could be if you're Cuban.

>>31581199
Here, your (you). Enjoy it.

>>31581145
Lmao, I speak 3 languages fluently. What about you? No need to rant at me, just try to refute my points.
>But what if those comparable als deducted their minorities from those stats
I meant
>But what if those comparable countries also deducted their minorities from those stats


My point is you just can't remove a part of your statistic. Blacks are a large part of the population and they will continue to do so, so how can you just delete them out of the statistics? It makes no sense. Other countries also have violent minorities.

>Here´s a fact: youré an illiterate moron who confuses "my opinion is" with "fact".

Facts:
>murder rate belgium 1.7
>murder rate USA 4.8

How is what I stated an "opinion"?

>>31581123
What's the problem with black people ? I'm black. I have a wife, 2 kids and a good job. Why would you factor me out ?

>>31581163
>It's like saying if we took gypsies, kebabs and criminals out of the equation then the murder rate here is 0.1 per 100K.
That´s blatantly false. Nordic countries all have a murder rate of >1.0 / 100k, and they´re 95% white (with the exception of Sweden which, ironically, is the least violent nordic country on paper) - I highly doubt your kin are that much less violent than my kin.

>>31580121
Un mec dans ma ville a tringlé deux cambrioleurs avec un fusil à pompe, il est sorti du tribunal un homme libre.

>>31580588
>strong muslim men carrying yugoslavian weapons of war around and killing hundreds of people without giving a fuck

you say that like it's a good alpha thing.

You think like a nigger.

Most people have a job, a girl and want to do things beside dying as a martyr or end up in jail.

Fun fact : most muslims terrorists from the terror attacks in France were losers, small time criminals and manlets.

>>31579791
Get a gun. Your life is more valuable than the law.

>>31581215
>What about you?
The same.
>My point is you just can't remove a part of your statistic.
Your point is null and void. There is no European equivalent to black Americans.

>Other countries also have violent minorities.
None are violent to the degree of committing 50% of murders while constituting 13% of the population.
>How is what I stated an "opinion"?
You forgot to subtract black-on-black crime.

>>31580811
>La connerie ne fait pas de distinction en fonction de l'idéologie.

My god, you make me cringe, you sound like the guy who goes to the Japan Expo and dresses himself as Marv from Sin City

>>31579791
Get a big, tough fixed blade knife and learn how to fight and kill with it. Carry it everywhere.

>>31581221
>What's the problem with black people ?
You are statistically reponsible for 50% of murders in the US, while constituting only 13% of the population. In other words: your folks are more violent than white folks - on average.

>>31581231
So you can take the group responsible for the higher murder rate in your country but if I do the same thing in my that blatantly false? It's not about being false or not, it's about you having double standards.

>>31581264
>My god, you make me cringe
>says the numale sissy faggot who honestly believes gun control to be anything but a tool of power used to subjugate wimps like yourself into submission

>>31581286
>So you can take the group responsible for the higher murder rate in your country but if I do the same thing in my that blatantly false?
Here´s the problem, spelled out for your simple mind: there is no group in your country comparable to black Americans in regards to influence on the murder rate. Your "violent minorities" are balkan thieves and drug-smugglers with low interest in murder and debauchery, and a keen interest for business and profit.

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>>31581329
So 13% / 50% isn't comparable to 6.5% / 25% in the global? Because you know, European countries have niggers too.

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>>31581302
>says the numale sissy faggot who honestly believes gun control to be anything but a tool of power used to subjugate wimps like yourself into submission
Who said I believed in that ?

>while OP try to find out how to defend himself i just buy body armor and carry a knife all time

>2016
>living in big cities
it's like you want to be culturaly enriched

>>31581500
some people have a work that requires to be in a big city. didn't think /k/ was in fact /vargvikernes/

>>31581264
Is that supposed to be an insult? "Sin City cosplayer", really?

More seriously, I've seen and worked with enough imbeciles from every corner of the political spectrum. I'm not gonna kiss some retard's asshole just because he happens to have the same ideological views as me.
But I suppose there is some nice irony in xenophobic people accepting every toxic person in their movement until it collapses under the weight of all that amassed idiocy.

>>31581329
Also, that's not removing the minority it'd just black on black crime. That leaves white on black and black on white. Litterally removing one facet changes the stats wildly, not even removing a demographic

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On n'a pas l'insécurité que vous avez en France, nous en Suisse, donc je te parle depuis ma vision de la France. mais je te recommande de partir sur un 9mm et également un calibre 5.56 ou 7.62 car il y a des risques qu'une guerre civile éclate en France et c'est pas de la joke.

>>31581193
>Autel
L'hôtel du socialisme est plutôt accueillant. Notamment si t'es un immigré musulman.

>>31580062
So on one hand, you have a religiously driven group who wants to topple your society

On the other hand, your ruling government punishes you for defending yourself and continues to let in millions of the very same people as that violent group, with little to no regulation?