>rage thread Force gun owners pay a VICE tax for wanting

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>>31568520
this face gives me rage

>>31568520
I don't think this liberal knows what a business day is

Or how insurance works

At least now we can use Kim Kardashian as example fucking 1 of why gun control doesn't work and how being disarmed just makes you a victim.

What about people like me who live hundreds of miles away from a reputable dealer? Most guns I buy are via prjvate sale since it saves on gas.

>>31568520
>that prissy specificity about holidays and weekends
>poorly thought out ideas with no attention paid to surrounding circumstance
>implied assumption this will fix things perfectly for all time
>Star Trek fan
It all fits together.

>>31568520
whoever wrote this is a woman huh? she sounds like a raging cunt.

>>31568520
So we should impose limits that don't actually change gun violence and make more work for the government?

Sounds good, where do I sign?

>i want more government control and wasteful bureaucracy for no benefit

Wew lad

>>31568645
This reminds me of that thread about the atf offices (or some gubmint office) being so full of paperwork it was causing structural problems because of it being written into some bill or something that a computerised database of gun owners can never be a thing.
Just gives me a warm, fuzzy feeling.

https://youtu.be/O_8fkyJC6mw

>>31568874
Didn't they get caught keeping the nics checks and not destroying them in the alloted time period?

>>31569128
Yup, that's a thing that happened. Who knows how many records they're still keeping.

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THIS SHIT RIGHT HERE

FUCK

>>31568571
>implying they wouldn't see that as a win

>>31571577
>furry Dylan Klebold

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>>31568520
But all this does is disarm poor people who arguably have the biggest need of the second amendment if they live in poor, underpoliced, and criminally active areas. They wouldn't be able to afford all that, but the regular gun owners and rich people would still buy guns, just probably less every year.

>>31568520
>putting food on your table is now considered a vice

We should ban flour next, who REALLY NEEDS to bake their own bread when they can buy it at the store?

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>>31571577
PLS NYET

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>>31571831
Don't give them ideas
>Due to the environmental impact (nonexistent compared to industrial) of home kitchens and refrigerators there is a $3000 a year tax if you want to operate an oven or refrigerator
>Just buy food premade at McDonald's and the state run food depot it's cheaper!

>>31568874
>computerised database of gun owners can never be a thing.
It can be digital but it can't have any kind of CTRL-F function. It's required that it be only manually searchable.

>>31568520
>i was going to kill these people, it'll just take 7 days longer
>totally wont ask the guy that i buy weed from if he know where to get a gun at

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>>31568520
Yes, I'm sure this will stop criminals from getting firearms.

>>31572056
Should have been executed for treason and arms trafficking.

>>31571949
How is that possible? The only reason you would keep a digital database is exactly for that reason: faster/more robust searches

>>31568874
It was some GQ article. The guy running the place had a stress related heart atrack, and the parking lot has like 23 shipping containers of unscanned forms because of how understaffed they are. It's perfect, honestly. The only thing I'd change is to cut their funding in half.

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>>31571831

Don't ever make a comparison like that. I could actually see them doing it. Because you know the environment and stuff. And the children. And flour is white and therefore racist. #LGBTQQIP2SAA

>>31572081
They scan the forms onto microfilm because the paper takes up too much space.

>>31572056
>Caught trying to traffic guns and ordnance to terrorist groups
>Took bribes as an elected official
>5 years

>Guy who bribes an elected official
>9 years
This country is such a fucking joke sometimes

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/rummages

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This one is for all the sneering Good Germans who knock anyone doing the open carry thing. Look at the company you're keeping.

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....aaaand that'll do for now.

>>31572228
Honestly, I'm getting a migraine just reading those comments. I'm all for free speech, but this is just cancer. These people vote and breathe the same air as we do. They need to die.

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>>31572154

>I hate guns because they kill people
>So we should have government people kill the people with guns
>Then those people can't use guns to kill people
>Also cops are evil racists and shouldn't have guns, because they kill black people, which is not OK
>Unless they have guns. Guns kill people
>Actually that's racist, he dindu nuffin
>African Americans can have guns but not white people
>#killallwhitepeople #gunsareevil #ifitsavesonelife

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>>31571577
look at it another way anon

he's shooting guns like everyone else, you're taking a picture of him and not shooting guns

speaking of which, anyone got that greentext story about some guy bitching about a father and his son shooting at the range, all because the son "looked autistic" for wearing camouflage to the range? the thread devolved into making fun of OP for being a faggot about a father and son spending time together

>>31572126
>>31572141
>Westchester, NYC


Why am I not int he least bit surprised the most fascist amongst us are from rich areas?

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>>31572126
>"Sign it out with a limited amount of ammo (not enough to commit mass murders)"

These people act like several hundred or thousands of rounds are fired during a mass shooting. In fact, I usually get that from nogunz acquaintances whenever there's a sensationalist headline. They act like having anything aside from one box of 20 rounds is abnormal.

>"OMG anon he had HUNDREDS of rounds that they seized from his house."
>"That's like one fucking box of .22LR."

>>31569356
Probably all of them.

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>>31572282
As a brown person, this also makes me fucking mad. They don't realize they're just as bad as the caricature of reality they're protesting against.

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>>31572275
I started keeping screenies of this sort of thing a few years ago because I couldn't believe how debased our public discourse was getting. It was a sort of mnemonic aid to myself -- a way to track our downward trajectory.

And the fatter that folder gets, the more my original fears were confirmed. Neither of my parents have heard such stuff since the worst of the Sixties, and I've never heard it at all. But it is a lot more poisonous and pervasive now. And it has the backing of large chunks of the media and our uniparty political apparatus.

Keep buying all the ammo you can afford, folks.

>>31572350
>Be at work.
>Guns come up.
>"Hey Anon, we know you like guns, how many hundreds of rounds do you have?"
>'You mean thousands, right?'
>Dead silence.
>'Wait, you were being serious about only owning a few hundred rounds?'

What are the chances that the person who posted this is also up in arms over a felon, who obviously wouldn't pass a background check, illegally possessing a firearm being shot by police recently?

>>31572282
They will learn the hard way, mark my words.

With the police backing off on enforcement due to the constant chastisement from the regressive left all it's going to take is BLM to take their riots into the white suburbs

>>31572390

>"End the gun epidemic in America"

Epidemic:

affecting or tending to affect a disproportionately large number of individuals within a population, community, or region at the same time

>318,000,000 people in the US
>~11,000 murdered with firearms annually
>0.000034% of the population is a "disproportionately large number"

Tragic? yes. disproportionately large? No.

>>31572141
>liberals hate stop and frisk (don't get me wrong, its unconstitutional and thus I don't like it either, I'm making a point)
>liberals want certain types of guns to be illegal
>the only way to enforce that is stop and frisk

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>>31572657
Bear in mind that was the NYT's second-ever front page editorial in its long history.

Bear in mind the FBI homicide stats are only thirty seconds away from any fact-checker's hands, whether they work for any newspaper or politician.

Bear in mind that these fucking people know, MUST know, that half our murders are black on black and we lose more people to bee stings than to rifle fire.

Think about all of that real real hard for a minute.

This is not some kind of honest misunderstanding, God fucking damn it. This is Cold Civil War.

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>>31572763
It's a war of the ruling class vs the people. The average men and women get their news from social media, regurgitate what they're told in a bit for virtue signaling, and don't give a fuck about rights, freedoms, or truth. They barely function above apes and only give a shit about things like instant gratification and their place int he social hierarchy. The ruling class knows how to control them, and so it does, and they don't give a shit because it doesn't directly negatively inpact their immediate happiness.

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>>31572763
the newest meme is that the Republicans and NRA are forbidding the CDC and FBI from doing something or something else with gun control statistics, so it's all fake and can't be taken seriously.

Also, liberals say we lose 32,000 people a year to gun violence.

It's not worth going on anymore

>>31572546
>all it's going to take is BLM to take their riots into the white suburbs

I know we're not supposed to but I wish a nigga would

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>>31572390
>No right is unlimited and immune from reasonable regulation.
Let's assume for a moment that I actually agree with this (I do not). Even so arbitrarily (arbitrary because the statistics don't back up the assertations) banning certain guns and types of ammunition is not regulation that I would consider "reasonable" under any circumstances.

>>31572763
The fact that a newspaper that claims journalistic integrity would put an OPINION PIECE on its front page at all is disgusting. I don't like you Phil, but you make good points more often than I like to admit.

>>31572858
>the newest meme is that the Republicans and NRA are forbidding the CDC and FBI from doing something or something else with gun control statistics
The stats posted by the FBI are less comprehensive than the CDC (I suspect it's more complete because it doesn't rely solely on law enforcement to update it) so that's one thing to consider. But it's only off by, like, 100 deaths or something. When I encounter these people I show them that the reason Congress is forbidding the CDC from doing research is because the CDC was caught deliberately misconstruing and altering data to suggest that gun control was the only likely solution to the "epidemic".

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>>31572922
And even then there's no ban on gun violence research over the CDC. It's a ban on researching gun control. They never want to research why criminals get guns or how to reduce gun violence through ancillary methods, or the extent to which mental illness supports gun violence (which are studies that have worth outside of solely the context of firearms), or even how if basic training like firearms courses in public school can normalize guns into society to where people are taught from an early age that owning a gun isn't like how the movies or TV shows portray it . Instead they get studies like "what kind of guns do criminals use?" where the only extrapolation that can be gleaned is "well I guess we have to ban those then because the fact that people can buy $100 burners that they dump in the river after the fact is the sole reason leading to a murder using a gun.

It's like having the government use taxpayer money to fund studies that conclude that the only way to fight terrorism is to quarter soldiers in civilian homes without the property owner's consent.

>>31568565
>implying Kim didn't stage the robbery for the insurance money

>Implying Kim and Kanye are not part of the Illuminati working to distract The World At Large from the atrocities committed

>Implying it wasn't the CIA that stole the jewelry to fund Black Ops 2 destabilize foreign governments

>Be current year and not woke, it's almost like you want to live in 1984

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>>31573288
>Implying it wasn't the CIA that stole the jewelry to fund Black Ops 2 destabilize foreign governments
>implying $11 million is enough to do that
>implying the government can't just "lose" money when they need money for black projects
>implying the government needs to do resort to secrecy to destabilize governments after the Arab Spring
>implying you are "woke"

>>31573324
>implying $11 million is enough to do that

That's be use they're going to go to Vegas, gamble it, and win big, and then use it for their evil deeds.

It's the perfect covert operation.

>>31571624
>Dylan Kobold

>>31573324
My god you're so in the machine I bet you actually threw away the can in HL2...

>>31573584
This, only plebs pick up that can.

>>31573584
I threw it away all right.

Right into that nigger's face.

>>31573324
>implying $11 million is enough to do that

If the goal is just to destabilize a country with no regards to the outcome that's all kinds of doable. Shit, there's plenty of countries where you could get 3 coups pulled off for 11mil.

>>31572922
>>31573039
Proof of CDC fucking with data? First I've heard of it. Last I knew it was that Congress decided it was a waste of time to study gun control and were able to stop it because it was wasting tax money.

>>31572922

>banning ammo types

My favorite meme.

>9x19 is illegal
>9x20 becomes insanely popular
>5.56 NATO is illegal
>.223 untouched
Etc.

Man, I hate dipshits, and they're the worst kind.

>>31573952
>CDC official and research head Patrick O’Carroll stated in a 1989 issue of The Journal of the American Medical Association, “We’re going to systematically build a case that owning firearms causes deaths.”
>“We’re going to systematically build a case that owning firearms causes deaths.”
I'm aware that it's a blog, but read the sources cited and move from there. The CDC at the time of the bans was well documented as having an anti-gun agenda. This shit isn't hard to find.

http://thefederalist.com/2015/12/15/why-congress-cut-the-cdcs-gun-research-budget/

>>31574672
Just to add, people think that the NRA was just so god damned powerful back in 1996 that they were able to convince Congress into attaching the rider that would become the Dickey Amendment for no other reason other than because Congress was in the pockets of gun manufacturers. Instead, it was because men like Arthur Kellerman intentionally misrepresented their data. Kellerman was the reason we have statistics like "a gun in the home makes you more likely to die from a gun" because while portions of the data set suggest that once you take other factors into account like "was the murder weapon owned by the resident, or was it brought to the home by another party" or links like drug activity the number is much, much smaller and Kellerman attempts to deflect that criticism.

Other examples to consider:
http://guncite.com/gun-control-kellermann-3times.html

So you have high level members of the CDC and other government agencies in the CDC umbrella publicly admitting their studies are done with confirmation bias in mind in press releases and rags like Rolling Stone along with data that is intentionally misrepresented and it's clear that the "funding ban" was never politically motivated.

>>31574672
>>31574928
Well from what you've said so far, I'd say the funding "ban" was politically motivated. In the sense that if our gov't was more anti-gun, they'd have let it continue rather than stopping it.

>>31575231
I meant politically motivated from the NRA and Congress's perspective. Banning junk science that has the goal of taking away people's rights isn't political. It's preserving liberty. It just came out weird because I'm drinking.

Liberal advocate killing people they don't agree with.

They insist only the govt should have guns, then complain about agents of the govt killing people.

The completely fail to see the irony in any of this.

American liberals are truly a cancer on this earth.

>>31573961
Even if they ban ammo nerds have been stockpiling brass and powder/primers for years. Joe blow has to buy 9mm legally for $5 A ROUND. While gangbangers can buy them for 15 cents each from cartels presses.

>>31572918

I am looking forward to it! Although, first shot rings out and they will scatter like roaches.

>>31575288
http://thefederalist.com/2015/12/15/why-congress-cut-the-cdcs-gun-research-budget/

This explains it all pretty well, senpai.

>>31568520
Not a bad idea. Less poorfag trash with guns.

>>31572193

Why can't New York or Massachusetts inspect trunks for guns

> No way the ACLU, let alone the NRA, will not eat us alive on this one, guys

> I have never even had a layover in those areas and I haven't the slightest idea how many people drive in or out of metropolitan areas in those regions.

> Wait, I have to pay 1% more in property tax for those new checkpoints?!

>>31578073
The ACLU doesn't give a fuck about gun rights. Their official position is that the 2A only guarantees the right to guns as collective member of the militia, not the individual. They publicly disagree with DC v Heller. Just FYI

>>31568520
I had something similar in my Facebook feed. My response was that while I didn't agree, I would acceded to their ideas if mandatory firearms safety and marksmanship classes were instituted at the high school level and successful completion.of said courses resulted in the issuance of a Federal carry permit that was good anywhere a law enforcement officer was allowed to carry.

My comment was deleted, of course.

>>31573433
No, the use the $11 million to kick start a crack cocaine operation, flood the inner cities with crack, cause a huge spike in crime and turn $11 million into hundreds of millions. It also saw the rise of gangsta rap. For that alone everyone involved deserves a slow, torturous death.

>>31568532
professor Umbridge of/k/

>>31578607

I'm aware, but they still came out for not restricting 2nd amendment rights for people on the terror watchlist.

Not because they support gun rights, but because they dislike when civil rights in general are removed without dur cause.

Warrantless trunk searches with 0 probable cause aren't going to pass muster with them, guns or otherwise.

>>31573584
I threw it away because no man should have to live in squalor

>>31578740

Not to mention that mandating unlawful searches of people's property on entry into a state is an absolutely fantastic way to kill your tourist industry as dead as possible.

>wanna see Dusneyland?
>just let me fist your asshole really quick

>>31577820
Your shitposting needs a little work

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>>31568520
Tbh senpai, those policies seem pretty reasonable. Its not like she wants to ban anything.

>>31579938
funs and ammo are already expensive enough, why should I have to pay an additional tax on it?

>>31568532
The Germans have a word for that: "Backpfeifengesicht," literally "a face that needs to be slapped/punched."

>>31579938
I'll accept that VICE tax when we start taxing people for freedom of speech as well.

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>>31579938
>reasonable
excpect if you need a firearm for an eminate threat
>7 day waiting time
>all those ffl transfers
>all that insurance
and the obligatory
>muh rights
>tax freedom of speech
>get hurt feeling insurance for temporary PTSD from no trigger warnings
>7 day wait from the government to spread a new idea
>if you fail a background check then you cannot participate in ideas/ideals
>no more private conversations without a certified witness
thought police when?
>pic is OC without a certified witness, loop hole

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>>31579979
Well if the government makes money of gun owners, they'll be less likely to pass gun restriction laws. And lets be honest, this country is getting more and more liberal everyday, we need all the help we can get.

>>31580021
Its hard to tax speech. The government won't be doing that anytime soon

>>31580041
Same responce to >>31580021

>>31572126
>(not enough to commit mass murders)
So what, you give them less than four bullets?
Also
>go to police station
>here is your shotgun and three shells so you can't commit mass murder :)))
>go home
>get my homemade shells
>now have enough to commit a mass shooting
gg

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>>31579938
Kill yourself.

>>31580114
BS argument, guns in private hands prevent them from enacting more and more and more power. They'll forego revenue in exchange for power.

It's always about power, never about money.

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>>31580410
>guns in private hands prevent them from enacting more power

Apparently not, both reagon and bill clinton straight up banned a certain type of gun. Hillary is probably going to put forward another assualt weapon ban.

The government isn't scared of some autist with a ar-15. Thats why its best to try to appease them

>>31580355
Great argument.

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>>31571577
You do realize /k/ is pretty fucking furry, right?

Besides, he's out practicing with his gun. In my book he's better than a lot of normalfags who would rather spend their time on the facebooks

>>31580593
Post a gun of yours with a timestamp.

>>31579065
Holy kek

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>Uses rifle in self defense
>Gets shat on for it

>>31568520
>all those angry words

Meanwhile, Tyrone simply carries on exactly as he did before, since niggers don't buy guns from stores.

>>31568874
Just last week the CA DOJ server crashed because so many people were buying guns that friday.

>>31571949
CA has it, and apparently it crashed twice already due to Californians panic buying guns every weekend.

>>31572657
It's 0.0034%. After dividing 11,000 by 318,000,000, you forgot to multiply that result by 100. Your point still stands, juat want to correct the reco-, I mean the math.