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What went wrong? How did Colt manage to fuck up Stoner and Knight's

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What went wrong?

How did Colt manage to fuck up Stoner and Knight's design?

Why hasn't anyone else tried to make a roller-locked, rotating barrel handgun?
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It's not good enough to justify the cost.
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>>31568244
Colt's lawyers and bean counters fucked it up because
>muh cost!
ruining build quality completely
>muh liability!
ruining the trigger which was supposed to be quite good.

>roller-locked
It wasn't roller locked at all, where are you getting that? It's typical short-recoil, locked-breech, just that the barrel rotates rather than tilts.
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>>31568244

Didn't the Beretta Cougar (now stoeger) use that action?
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>>31569141
Rotating short-recoil? Yes it did, as does the PX4 pistol (except the subcompact one, which utilizes the more typical tilting barrel).

It's not a bad system if you want to make it work, given that it goes straight back, it lends itself to a bit better inherent accuracy, while still having the same short-recoil effect.
Of course, it's a bit more complex to machine.
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>>31568244
>How did Colt manage to fuck up Stoner and Knight's design?

Look at Colts history over the past 30 years. It's a series of incremental fuck ups. The real question is how many of their top executives need help getting dressed in the morning.
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>>31568244
>Colt
The question answers itself.
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Look at who they let design the thing, twas doomed
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>>31568244
The biggest problem was the shitty trigger, the cause was the Double Action Only trigger engineered to fully cock the striker from 0% load before each and ever shot, unlike the glock which has a precocked striker and safety system backing it up.

Sure you made a safe, safetyless pistol but the trigger will always feel like you are fighting the striker spring with every trigger pull.
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>>31569865
It was also poor build quality, they were known for wearing themselves down, and for having particularly poor accuracy after a small roundcount.

It has a ball-bearing in it's trigger, which is supposed to make it nicer to pull, and on the original trigger, this works, but the Colt weighs in at 12-13lbs at each pull, the ball-bearing does nothing to fix this horrible trigger.
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>>31569887
I doubt the reason that ian gave (lawyers) was the reason for the shitty trigger, they probably strengthened the striker spring for more reliable primer ignition and hurt the trigger pull in turn.

Beretta managed to pull of the rotating barrel design in the end. They are fun shooters.
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>>31569982
Lawyer faggotry wasn't unheard of at the times, it's why S&W got keylocks on their guns and what not.

>Beretta managed to pull of the rotating barrel design in the end.
Yes but that's because it wasn't ruined by bean counters and Beretta didn't spend the entire decade shitting the company up when they made theirs.
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>>31570055
>>31570055
The S&W keylock was a deal that they made when they bought out a incorporated a company with that "technology". It was more of a deal with politicians than lawyers.
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>>31568244
rollers were "in" the trigger if I remember correctly.
It supposed to give superior trigger pull.
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