FK Brno to start importation of their new pistol immediately

>>31567308
Is the round more powerful or weaker then the similar 7.62×25mm Tokarev?

>>31567387
More powerful, if I recall correctly
Comparable to .44 magnum

Ammo for that is going to being expensive as hell and hard to find.

>This round is completely proprietary and not a necked down version of any existing cartridge
FUCK

I'm buying one. Don't care if it turns out shit. It's just too fucking sexy.

>>31567387
Should be notably more powerful. They're quoting 880ftlbs, which is in the upper range of 10mm numbers.
If they can just get someone like Fiocchi to pick up their cartridge and make cheap target loads, I'll get this. Proprietary rounds scare me, but this has a lot of potential.

>>31567387
well, the article says 880 ft-lbs and 2000 fps, which reverse engineered comes out to a 99.1gr bullet
so probably 100gr at around 1900-2000 fps
nothing to sneeze at for sure

>>31567308
that thing looks dope

>>31567446
hmm, but this article lists 103gr and 2000fps
http://dailycaller.com/2016/05/03/the-worlds-fastest-pistol-7-5-fk-brno/

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>>31567411
Yup, looks cool and this sight gives me the tight pants, but proprieatry round with no reloading potential=flop.
Even though
>Accuracy is touted as a 1.5 inches at 100 meters (an interesting mix of units, eh?). The round is rated to pierce Class IIIA ballistic protection (typical combat soft armor is IIIA) at 100 meters as well.

Pretty interesting.

>>31567427
Do it

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>mfw I've been eyeballing this gun for a while now

Also, has the MSRP been released on this gun yet?

>>31567474
With everything being proprietary, I'm going to guess that this thing will be in the $2,000+ range, and then there will be ammo cost...

>>31567471
>>Accuracy is touted as a 1.5 inches at 100 meters (an interesting mix of units, eh?). The round is rated to pierce Class IIIA ballistic protection (typical combat soft armor is IIIA) at 100 meters as well.
Probably "1.5 MOA" translated into nublet speak.

>>31567308
>interesting gun, but it'll flop, unless maybe they can effectively market it as a hunting pistol
If it can punch through civilian body armor and serve as bear defense with the same ammo, it's a good do-everything pistol. I would seriously consider one.

>>31567496
ammo will probably be really expensive, but not too much to reload
use .30 carbine projectiles and reload
that is if they release any load data

>updating the cz75 platform around a new cartridge
>instead of making a direct competitor to tanfoglio and sphinx by updating it for fucking 10mm already
>muh better accuracy than sig p210
>muh armor piercing rounds like the ruskis

>>31567511
Yeah, that (aside) was the firearm blog being dumbshits. Just ripped it because that accuracy + vest popping at 100m is pretty cool. If BRNO's press release said 40mm or whatever at 100m us Americans wouldn't be able to relate as much.

>>31567308
http://www.fkbrno.com/en/7-5-fk-system

>That butterfly sight
>That folding stock
I almost want this thing even though obvious flop.
FK BRNO is a pretty cool guy.

>>31567308
Who is the distribution through?

I want one.
I want to reload for it
I want to sbr it

>>31567921
Only North American distributor listed is Canadian precision LTD in Ontario. Don't know who is handling U.S. distribution.

>>31567308
Savn my shekels.

Maybe a bday gift to myself in march.

I have a few other thibgs i want before a $2000 pistol.

>>31567474
NRA mentioned north of 5000 Burgers.

how do you even pronounce brno

>>31569113
"Nigger"

>>31567402
Energy of 44mag but they accomplished that through velocity not mass. It's a really fast but relatively light bullet.

>>31569113
Bee reno

not joking

>>31569639
>walk into gun store
>"so how much is that new nigger gun?"
>guy behind the counter quotes you hi point prices

>>31569113
>how do you even pronounce brno
Br- like in "Brazil"
-no like just "no" but with short "o"

t. born, raised and living in Brno

>>31569113
no vowels

plus

o like orange

>>31569113
Just gonna say "Bee Arr Enn Ohh" to dealers

ATF is going to fuck this up for us. They'll either mandate weak loads and or soft point bullets. So that people with $6000 to spend don't have armor piercing sniper pistols to kill cops.

Just like they did with the 5.7

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Tokarev is 180$ and 19 cents a round for a steel core hot loaded surplus that will penetrate level lllA . Chinese Norinco new production is only 26cents non corrosive. Worst case scenario cut 5.56 brass neck down and reload for way less. It clocks in at 1800fps muzzle velocity the Bruno is only two hundred more about the velocity of a paintball. Its insanity to chase this five thousand dollar unicorn

>>31570760
But we're all insane here anon

>beaver tail

Seems like one of those pistols that no one will buy but in 150 years the great-great-great-grandchild of Ian will do a video of one at an auction and talk about how great it was before it sells for some ridiculous amount.

>>31570809
Everyone even crazy folk must acknowledge the badassory that is the Tt-33. Built like a Russian tank, simplicity incarnated

>>31570760
>Toks under $200
>Norinco ammo
Neither of those are available in the US.

>>31570911
We'll all be Chinese by that generation.

>>31570962
Neither is the brno

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>>31570962
Even at three Hundo its a steal for an all steel war fighter

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>>31569113
Brrr-no, the same way Cirno is Chrr-no.

>>31569113
Burn-oh

>>31571253
objectively best girl

>>31569113
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3d/Cs-Brno.ogg

>>31568450
Bleah.

>>31570760
what knife is that

>>31567463
Stop being fucking autistic. That anon pretty well nailed it. Of course there's going to be rounding. They're not going to say 2042.175381 FPS in the article.

>>31572955
I made both of those posts

I know a guy and these will retail for just under $3200. No word on ammo yet. Screencap this.

>>31570059
a ~60 grainer that fragments could be neat

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>>31572997

>>31573056
Sure and it's a neat round but I meant to imply that they're being someone dishonest by equating it to .44mag. Velocity gives you big energy numbers but there's a lot more that goes into the terminal ballistics and if you want penetration you need both the cross sectional density and the mass, mass is worth as much as velocity in this unlike with energy so I highly doubt that these will penetrate on par with .44mag or defeat some barriers as well. Then again .357sig is known for penetration so maybe I'm wrong.
I still think it's a false equivalency and that they know it.

If it doesn't cost as much as a SCAR I'd like one
Powerful, accurate, sexy as fuck

>>31573845
they killed a fucking elk with it

Your argument is the same kind of shit people spewed when they switched to 223

>>31573937
I'm going to put my limit at around $1,500.
It'll probably be more than that but that's what I'd pay, no more. A Delta Elite is only $1,100, this gun is a little sexier but it isn't 3 times as sexy.

>>31573962
>guyshootingamoosewithaglock.webm

>>31573962
That was the 11th elk they shot though, the first 10 just walked it off.

Here's 10mm shooting a hog.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSq96T-UrJ0

>>31574024
heart shot, not head shot

>>31574046
>That was the 11th elk they shot though, the first 10 just walked it off.

source?

>>31574076
I talked to the sister of the 8th elk you austistic ass hat lol.

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>>31574086
got a hearty chuckle outta me

>>31572640
(Me)
90 grain .357 sig Underwood in my G32 chronoed at 1670fps.
I'll take that and keep my money.

>>31568450
try 2000

>>31569113
Bruno

>>31574818
I doubt it'll sell even at $2000 - if it was going for $800 then it could really catch on though.

>>31574993
that was a random number thrown out
It entirely depends on how many sell

>>31575042
Welll.... I'm just thinking that it's not going to be able to compete with 10mm in sales, not to mention the service calibers, if it can't compete in price.

>>31567308
>flop
What kind of sales are they expecting? So long as they don't have major issues or expect them to fly off the shelves and flood the market, they'll do fine. People buy snowflake ammo guns all the time. Expect a lot of these in the consoles of Maseratis and Lincolns and on custom mantle stands.

>>31575068
who ever said they would be trying to compete with service calibers OR 10mm

The gun is fucking huge in a proprietary caliber

It's not a carry gun

>>31575129
But if it costs more than a Deagle, which already would be a lot more popular if it was cheaper, then there's not going to be many people that will spring for one besides a handful of overmoneyed collectors that won't shoot them, which in turn will lead to zero motivation for ammo import/manufacturing.

Anyone who thinks they're going after anyone but the niche collectors market is a damn fool.

If it starts to show more demand then you may see some larger production and reduced cost, probably with some cost savings like cheaper plastic grips or less machining.

>>31575144
you like to think no one reads all these blogs and websites and is interested in these things

You realize Five Sevens have been sold 10s of thousands of times right?

I've seen exactly one in my life

You think it's supposed to be some household gun that everyone will own
No
It's a random off the wall gun that people own
Like Nighthawk

>>31575193
I would consider the Five-Seven to be a complete flop though, and it's well under two grand and the ammo is findable. I really doubt that FN has turned much of a profit on it when you take all their tooling and production line costs into account.

>>31575212
>I would consider the Five-Seven to be a complete flop though, and it's well under two grand and the ammo is findable. I really doubt that FN has turned much of a profit on it when you take all their tooling and production line costs into account.


Then you'd be wrong

The tooling they use is not specialized for that gun
It's the same CNCs and injection molding machines as the rest of their lines but with different programs and molds

>>31575144
Holds 14 rounds. Deagle holds half that. Plus the deagle is picky as holy shit with ammo and it's not like .50 ae is cheap

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>>31567308
I really like the look of this thing. It's like something a modern Austria-Hungary would have produced.

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>>31575665
Or maybe Switzerland 100 years ago?

>>31567308
Call me when Starline starts making brass for it.

>>31570760
>>31572851
seconding this, that knife is cool as fuck

>>31575832
I want an original 210 that isn't beat to shit and doesn't cost me 2 years worth of nutting in a jar

>>31575880
>and doesn't cost me 2 years worth of nutting in a jar
Then the brno is not for you

>>31571902
baka

>>31575888
I was referring to 210s
They're not current production, so it's different

>>31575907
Yeah we all have wants anon

>tfw no gyrojet carbine

>>31574046

>watching the hog squirm made me visibly sad

is there something wrong with me

>>31576003
they are useless disgusting pests

If you think of them that way, it makes it easier

>>31570988
>being this fucking retarded
look at the OP you fucking mong

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So serious question here, but why would I chose this over a desert eagle? Both are powerful and accurate, but would the Eagle not represent a better deal with how cheap .44mag and .357mag are?

>>31576252
>but why would I chose this over a desert eagle?

higher capacity, about 10 times as accurate, less recoil, nearly as powerful as the 44

>>31576261
allegedly more accurate, I'm not saying it isn't but the Deagle in capable hands is no obrez. With the proper weight, they're quite accurate.

How much does this fucker weigh, because without pictures in somone's hand and hard specs I cant decide if it's less gigantohuge.

It'd be nice to finally retire my redhawk.

>>31576310
>allegedly more accurate

Demonstrably unless you're seriously going to just say
>WELL NUHUH DEYS LYING

>I'm not saying it isn't but the Deagle in capable hands is no obrez

It's not 1.5 MOA

It's 45 oz if the site I found is right

>>31576322
We have in the past heard "its X moa" and then mysteriously, the production version sold in the US is not so. I'm buying that it's accurate, I'm just shy about saying it'll be X moa. You dig?

>>31576361
>and then mysteriously, the production version sold in the US is not so.

There is no production version in the US so I'd like you to post your sources

>>31576310
Seems to work alright for these fellows.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mymewEQiQhY

>>31576361
Strike 1, various Korths, etc. Not this guy in particular.

>>31576404
thanks for that.

>>31576420
They legit drop an elk at range with the damn thing, that's why I thought this pistol rather impressive.

>>31576427
the whole multiple sights and RMR compatibility makes me rather erect
Now it just needs to take suppressors

>>31576434
I am presuming there'd be a threaded barrel option, if it's not default. But yeah, having a can on there...

>>31569113
burn-oh

only with a very short "ur" part
also a very rhotic R, none of that swallowed "uuuhhhhhr" bullshit but a proper scottish RRRRRRRRRRR

>>31576252
This thing has some sort of recoil mitigation system that they've not shown us yet. The Deagle does not have such a system.

>>31569113
"I'm not Brazilian"

So pronouncing the whole name is like "FUCK, I'm not Brazilian, shut up!"

>>31576497
Aside from being a fuck-heavy gas-piston handgun, of course.

>>31576497
deagle has a lot of problems, but recoil ain't one of them honestly.

>>31576502
Brazilian?
it's Czech

>>31576532
Anon needs to stop sniffing glue.

>>31576532
>BR BR BR?
>NO
>huehues ensue
It's not that complicated a joke.

>>31576361
Okay, so ignoring accuracy, it has double the capacity, significantly less recoil, better sights, and better ergonomics.

>>31576597
that I can get behind.

>>31576569
Clever, I admit, but if it has to be explained...

>>31576628
Right? Plus you can mount a red dot on it if you want

>>31576651
deagle has a rail from the word go bro.

>>31576379

are you mentally retarded? Like actually disabled?

Not that guy, but that happens all the fucking time. Sometimes when the product is originally quite good even. Take the SG550. The American version is a pile of shit in comparison to the Swiss one. Take the r51, everyone said it would be the best carry gun ever, that it was fucking magical, then when it actually hit shelves we discovered it was flat out irredeemably broken, so much so the Remington recalled them.

He is not saying that it is worse, just that he is skeptical a production model will live up to the hype. That does not require a source it's a goddamn opinion you braindead assclown, you're talking to the goddamn source, jesus fucking christ do you actually not know how to read?

Yes I'm mad.

>>31576003
>iknowthatfeel.jpg
while intellectually I know there is nothing wrong with hunting (if it is done correctly), it always makes me sad to see animals killed

>>31576663
Never said it didn't bro. I was pointing out that the fact you have the option for a red dot on the field gun is nice bro

>>31572851
>>31575864
https://www.hermitagemuseum.org/wps/portal/hermitage/what-s-on/temp_exh/2016/gunsmiths/?lng=ru
looks like it came from here, but i can't find the image in particular.

>>31575832
Sig Sauer P210
I just vomited all over the table.
Note: All pistols since 1970 aka the developement of the 220 where german engineering and production and in no way shape or form to be associated with swiss firearms. For rifles the cut off date is October 1999.

>>31570280

why does Czechland hate vowels?

>>31577457
Because "r" is a syllabic consonant.

>>31577457
because wovels are for the weak

>>31567308
is this what the 5.7 was supposed to be/could have been?
sanic fast proprietary rounds?

>>31577497

makes sense i guess. same thing applies for L?

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>>31577620

>>31567511
inb4 liberals ban it because "armor piercing assault babies"

>>31577584
>it's fucking massive

Goddamn it

>>31567308
What the fuck is that bulbous tube thing below the barrel? Is that holding the recoil spring? Why is it so far away from the barrel? Why is there that separator notch between them? Bottlenecked .30 cal pistol round? Why not just use 7.62x25? Even on the off chance it IS more powerful, why? It's not like 7.62x25 is underpowered, unless you perhaps want something as strong as .30 Carbine which is basically .30 Magnum.

I don't understand the reasoning behind tihs pistol's existance. Functionally, it seems like it's going to be a double-stack TT-33 with a far more ergonomic grip and fancy sights. Oh, and probably going to cost roughly 4-6x as much as one, if not more. Personally, I think I'll stick to my Tokarev... seriously though, is the recoil spring down there? What is this shit? Beyond the trigger guard, it looks like something from before WWI.

>>31577719

>>31577669
Also this. It looks fucking HUGE. Not even the cool Hugh Mungus type of huge, but just... stupidly huge. Looks like it'll weigh twice as much as a TT33.

>>31577669

>t. manlet

>>31577724
It looks like it's the size of a Desert Eagle. You must not know firearms very well, because you don't have to be a manlet to say something that size is 'fucking massive'.

>>31577719
Target shooting

Its a novelty hobby gun for the free market. We have free enterprise. There's a double barrel 45 out there, so why not this

Its a TT-33 for jews

I want an ambi one in 9mm

>>31577863
Literally why, the whole design is based on it firing a large caliber. Just get a fucking CZ-75, it's the same shit.

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>>31577988
>the whole design is based on it firing a large caliber.

>>31577994
Nice argument you got there.

>>31577731
Nah, look at the video posted ITT. It's as big as CZ75, it just has longer barrel.

>>31577816
You a jew

>>31567387

>The 7.5 round travels at 2000 fps with 880 fp of energy. Now that is really moving for a pistol round of that size. From the photos it appears to be a well made handsome pistol that should create a good deal of interest here in the USA.

>>31577427
Some of us like our pre-70 Sigs just fine though

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>>31578219
Pic related

>>31577669

>Length: 10.23"
>Width: 1.004"
>Height: 5.35" without sight, 5.63" with Butterfly sight
>Weight: 45.85 oz.
>Magazine capacity: 14+1
>Barrel length: 5.90"

Compared to .44 Magnum Desert Eagle:

>Length: 10.75"
>Width: 1.26"
>Height: 6.26"
>Weight: 70.6 oz.
>Magazine capacity: 8 +1
>Barrel length: 5.98"

I want one. How?... How can I get?

>>31578340
Once they get imported figure out who the importer is, find a seller, and buy it just like any other pistol.

I'd love to have one, but I'm sure it will be like $2k+, and ammo is going to be expensive and impossible to find since it's completely new and not based on an existing case.

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I noticed that they went from calling it a "Combat Field Pistol" to just "Field Pistol."

>>31577994
Because it is made of sex and I can never find that snowflake caliber here.

>>31578004
>7.5mm
>large caliber

No argument needed to figure out you're a retard.

>>31578691
And then suddenly they got ATF approval for import

A 5.7 using Elite ammunition t6b or s4m is much more viable and less gimmick

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>>31578835
>and less gimmick

As sexy as this gun is, I'm afraid the 7.5 FK round will simply melt it over time; expect to replace the barrel after a few thousand rounds.

>>31578835
It's also a completely different concept and market.

Your comparing a magnum caliber hunting/target/combat handgun with a small caliber combat exclusive handgun.

Also
>5.7
>Anything but a gimmick

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Reminds me of this

>>31577719
I think the large mass under the barrel is for an advanced recoil mitigation system which they reference to on on their website

BTW, I only just noticed the insanely high bore axis

>>31577072
>The American version is a pile of shit in comparison to the Swiss one

Different company made the American ones
FK BRNO is making all the pistols in the same factory

>so much so the Remington recalled them.

Remington is shit
Period

>He is not saying that it is worse, just that he is skeptical a production model will live up to the hype.

Lots of guns live up to their hype
You've named exceptions to the rule

>>31579100
If by advanced recoil mitigation you mean a recoil spring and some extra mass then yes.

Looking through the website it seems they tried a bunch of different concepts, including one similar to a HK P7 that was breddy cool, but ended up just building a bigger CZ97.

>>31579100
Advanced recoil mitigation? Sounds like a lot of nonsense to me, but hey, whatever floats their boat.

As for checking the bore axis, I also looked at pics of the CZ-75 which is known to have quite a good bore axis, and though it looks bad in the pics, it looks like it's about on par with the CZ.

>>31578983
Actually 7.5 FK development started as PDW per some private customer requirements..

>>31578691
it went from being a "we want a military contract" to "we didnt get a military contract"

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>>31579359
>Advanced recoil mitigation? Sounds like a lot of nonsense to me

lrn2 countermass.

>>31579622
I didn't say I don't believe you, I just said it sounds like nonsense. I also didn't say it wouldn't work. I just don't think it's necessary, especially if it's with a mere .30 cal pistol cartridge. Sure 7.62x25 can be snappy, but that doesn't make it uncontrollable.

>>31579676
but it's not 7.62x25
it's WAY faster than that
the top listed load on Wikipedia is 85gr and moves at 1700 fps (most likely from an excessively long test barrel)
this new FK gun shoots a heavier 103gr projectile at 2000 fps from it's 6" barrel (if marketing hype is to be believed)

a Tokarev is snappy enough, but this is heavier and faster

>>31579359
I am very interested. I mean, there are a fuckton of all kinds of dud designs for recoil management, but this one may actually have something that is really tuned for that.

They say in the video that it weighs like .45, feels like .40 SW to shoot and delivers energy of a .44 magnum. I am interested.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mymewEQiQhY

>>31576252
The Deagle is about as unreliable as a pistol can be. It's a range toy, nothing else.

>>31580356
but would you use this for self defense either?

>>31578320
Is that gun store in Canada by any chance?

>>31580728
Nah but I'd use it for competition and hunting. Wouldn't use a Deagle for either of those.

>>31580356
Deagle
>Too heavy
>Too big
>Too expensive
>Too unreliable
>Too inaccurate (though that might have simply been me; I was a very inexperienced shooter at the time)

M1911
>Much lighter (Around 3/4 the weight or less)
>Much smaller and SIGNIFICANTLY slimmer, even slimmer than most or all double-stack pistols
>Much more affordable (Especially for those who have Chinese-manufactured M1911 copies available; about $350 CDN (Used would probably lower thep rice further))
>Far more reliable (Over 1000 (possibly nearing 1500) rounds through my Springfield Armoury Mil Spec with zero malfunctions)
Won't touch the accuracy aspect (If a good and more experienced shooter gets their hands on a good Deagle, then chances are they SHOULD be able to get more accuracy/range, due to firing the larger cartridge. This is speculative and assumptive, however.

In short, the M1911 design is better than the Deagle in just about every way, except the following:

>.357 Magnum weighs less than .45 ACP usually so you can carry more ammo in a .357 Deagle
>.357 Deagle has 9+1; generally the most an M1911 variant can have flush is 8+1, giving a 1 round advantage
>If side arms can be used to hunt where you live, provided it's powerful enough, then the Deagle could probably be used to hunt deer. Maybe even moose and brown bear with .50 AE though don't hold me to that. Who knows, maybe just .44 Magnum is allowed for those.
>The accuracy issue I brought up, because theoretically the Desert Eagle should be capable of superior accuracy due to hotter ammo, though I'm not 100% on it.

In terms of self defence or hunting, you COULD use a Deagle... but let's be real here. There are FAR more useful and practical things available. Hunting? Get a rifle. Home defence? A shotgun would probably be one of the best choices. Self defence? M1911 would be the better option for both saving your life and saving your back.

How much would it cost?

>>31575880
Move to Switzerland then.
I´m a germanfag and paid 1350 for mine. Mountainjews get them a little cheaper.

>>31581323
Just because I feel like rambling, let's continue.

Which is better? Desert Eagle or M1 Carbine?

Accuracy - M1 Carbine (I don't think there's anyone of sound mind who questions the M1 Carbine's ability to reach over 200m)

Follow-up shots - M1 Carbine (Firing from shoulder>firing from hand)

Capacity - M1 Carbine (7, 8, or 9 round mag vs 15 or 30 round mag? Do the math...)

Reliability - M1 Carbine (Neither is perfect, but I'd trust the M1 Carbine before I'd trust a Deagle)

Weight - Desert Eagle (We're talking about less than 2lb difference I'm pretty sure... between a pistol and a shoulder-fired firearm... which is pretty sad...)

Concealability - Desert Eagle (Can anyone TRULY conceal a Desert Eagle, though? Unless you're 500lb+ and can stuff it between flabs of fat, I doubt someone could avoid printing)

Hunting - Desert Eagle (It DOES fire more powerful rounds after all, but remember, there are better options out there)

Home Defence - M1 Carbine

Self Defence - M1 Carbine (Can't be carried quite as casually as a Deagle, but I think anyone in their right mind would choose an M1 carbine over a Desert Eagle if they knew they were going to be attacked at some point)

Eating Brass - Desert Eagle (It's never happened to me before, but I hear limp wristers can get brass ejected pretty much directly into their face due to the rotating bolt in the firearm turning the pistol in their hands during recoil)

So yeah, if I were going into Grizz country or was worried about being attacked by a moose, I'd probably go for the Deagle instead of the M1 Carbine, in spite of the footage of a skidoo-riding dude taking down a cow moose with a Glock.

>>31581323
Yee but a doublestack wondernine is gonna be better than a 1911 for pretty much anything outside WWII reenacting.

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>>31581451

>>31581493
Yeah, I'm not biting that bait...

>>31581438
defense

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>>31567532
Don't they have to report the max pressure of the cartridge to that one organization?

>>31582313
That's SAAMI, and only if the manufacturer want other companies to be able to manufacture and sell compatible ammunition.

>>31582123
Had a feeling the C wasn't right... live and learn...

>>31580792
Nope sorry

>>31570059
Yep, same shit with lightweight 10mm and various 85-95gr 9mms in the 9x23-25 range and a few.357 sign rounds. I don't give a shit about the gun or the cartridge. This is the heavy ass CZ pattern Five-seveN of this decade

>>31567387

Nigga it'll punch through a IIIA vest at 100m.

What do you think?

>>31570394
>Just like they did with the 5.7
You mean FN. The ATFs definition of AP has fuck all to do with a projectiles ability to act as AP. It's construction. It's of AP on the market and it doesn't matter anyway because this is going to be nothing more than a luxury pistol

And WDM Bell killed elephant with a 6.5 because he was a fantastic shot and knew the importance of properly constructed bullets and shot placement.
A little girl killed a bear with a 22, doesn't mean she could do it twice. Your "much 223" statement is retarded considering the fuckhuge size of the gun and the nature of the cartridge. It's not a Five-seveN

Tbh it's cool and all but I want the 7.5 in a carbine.
Like an AR upper in 7.5 or an M1 re-chambered

Or a xm-134 re-chambered

>>31575258
The DE also comes in two other widely available calibers that are also easily reloaded. The giant 7.5 is unknown in the reliability department except for the fact that it only has one goddamn ammo source that sure as fuck isn't going to be spotty so it's not like shooting cheap ass light dirty. 357 ammo through a DE.

The DE has a shitty grip and worse recoil. That's about all you can say because capacity means fuck all with these novelties

>>31575880
So buy a French 1935A

>>31576434
Yeah have fun putting a can on a 2000fps pistol that's likely maxed out in OAL and god knows how it handles load variance.

>>31576597
>better sights
You mean weird sights. The DE has had mounts since forever ago. And again, nobody is clearing rooms innawoods so capacity is what the fuck ever

>>31572997
$3200?

Don't let your dreams become memes

>>31578946
20+1 or 30+1
Actual proven and tested service cartridge and handgun
AP to American eagle
No fucky recoil gimmick
Not 45oz or 3ft long

Yeah, sounds much more practical and leas gimmicky. Doublestack mags, tilting barrels and polymer were gimmicks at one point.

Hell repeaters were too

I want one. Even more, I want one that's scaled down like 18% and chambered in 10mm or something I can actually buy.

>>31567308
>market it as a hunting pistol
>fires a high velocity low-mass round with zero available expanding bullets
It will literally be illegal to hunt with in all 50 states.

>>31580816
Ah so the only things the deagle happened to be specifically designed for. Interesting

>>31584694
Too bad it sucks at both of them.

>>31584725
So why is it relatively common among IHMSA shooters?

Why are the majority of .50AE loads controlled expansion JSP's?

>>31584735
>So why is it relatively common among IHMSA shooters?
Because there aren't many entries in it's class, so there's not much competition

>Why are the majority of .50AE loads controlled expansion JSP's?
Because retards buy them thinking they're gonna be like Boondock Saints II

>>31575144
Deagles dont catch on because their stupid fucking gas system gets filthy quickly and they start jamming like bob marley within a few magazines.

>>31585745

You have literally never owned a desert eagle, and if you ever shot one you probably limp wristed it.

They need hot loads but they are very reliable with appropriate ammunition.

>>31585956
>They need hot loads
Just like ur mum

The Deagle is a meme gun

>>31586102
/k/ definition of the word "meme" = "dislikable."
Why don't you just say "dislikable?"
You don't mean "meme."
You mean "thing you that you don't like."

>>31577608
enjoy your rifle status

>>31577560
>makes sense i guess. same thing applies for L?

In Russian at least, no.

L= Ell

R = Errrr

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>>31586215
It's obviously an arm brace, you can see the slot in the end for the forearm to pass through.

>>31586215
Eh, just file your SBR paperwork and pay your cuckstamp.

>>31584653
are you actually saying that 5.7x28 is the future of handguns? it's fun to shoot, but 3 rounds more than a 9mm isn't that impressive with the caliber that is awful for self defense. it's a gimmick for civilians, and for cops it's over priced and has very limited uses (going up against an armored opponent when you can't bring a shotgun/rifle)

>>31586211
Deagle brand deagle is a meme though

And they're usually gold plated and sometimes tiger striped

>>31578219
There are no SIG pistols after 1970. They are SIG Sauer pistols.

>>31587215
Fort hood 2009. All people who were shot in the chest died. Military personnel died charging at the shooter. A woman had her pelvic obliterated.
All of that with normal 5.7 ammo

>>31575129
>It's not a carry gun
Doesn't matter as I'd carry one of these fucking things all day every day.

>>31577457
Slavs were late, when letters were handed out. We came to the event early and got a lot of vowels. We have words like hääyöaie, laueiitti and maauimala.
t. a Finn

>not ambi
:-(

bumpu

>>31587215
>are you actually saying that 5.7x28 is the future of handguns?
Where the fuck did you get that?

it's fun to shoot, but 3 rounds more than a 9mm isn't that impressive. Correct. But a +10 the size of a +2 sure as fuck is.

And still, nobody actually gives a shit about AP, it's a handgun. At best it's a bonus should you choose to use it which nobody does because there's no situation where having an AP HANDGUN ALONE is going to save you.

>>31589482
Sure thing but. Do you always say colts manufacturing company, Fabrique Nationale d'Herstal or Fabbrica d'Armi Pietro Beretta? Nobody gives a fuck and you may have aspergers