/KTG/ Knife Thread General

>>31564784
Nice fallkniven s1 bro

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>>31564784
>Posting the most boring cold steel knife
I'm not even a fan, and I would've posted the espada xl.

I'll just leave this here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mN0kfBMt-5M

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>>31566719
Did someone say espada?

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dumping meme steel

>>31565035
Shame the SRK is near a decade older in design and made in the same city, ignoring the fact that Fallkniven was a CS distributor before they ever made a knife and their knives just happened to end up looking like a series of CS knives.

>>31567641
So say I was choosing between the Spartan, raja, espada medium and voyager xl cuz I wanted to try a cold steel knife out. What would a cold steel fan recommend.

Also considering a dragonfly salt, Kershaw spoke and boker ak47 and that ecos wharncliffe.

>>31567801
Code 4 >>31567737

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>>31567801
I like the Spartan's blade shape but the handle makes it a bulky carry. The Large Espada is the best sized Espada in my opinion and actually carries better than the Spartan. I've always wanted a Rajah 1 or 2 but I've heard they're more novelty for some reason. Voyager and Recon 1 are some of CS's flagship products, so it really depends on what you're looking for specifically.

The Boker AK47 is also a great mainstay in the knife world. And everyone here pretty much loves Kershaw. Dunno if going with a Wharncliffe is the best for EDC unless you already have other traditional blade shapes.

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>>31567853
Current collection is pic related.I'm mostly leaning towards the Raja, voyager and recon, thought the espada just looks comfy. I've only heard good things really about the ak47.

I've never been impressed by the Kershaws I have used, but I can't say anything negative about them really.

Mainly just wanted to try a cold steel for the hell of it.

>>31567853
I want a Ti-Lite so much.

>>31567968
Going off your collection I'd say you're looking a the right models for CS. Definitely get something over 4 inches since you've got everything else covered in your collection. The Code 4 would be more "traditional" and in keeping with your current Spydies and ZT but I'd say if you're trying out Cold Steel, go for what they're known for, overbuilt, large tactical knives. Watch some of their hilarious marketing videos and see what tickles your fancy.

Voyager
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cufYQFjj65s

Espada
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QW3dtb8_Lj0

Rajah II
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pe39OLzVy5Y

Recon I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvS7WldTbhg

>>31568011
Got the 6 inch zytel version for about $60. It's a great carry for such a long knife and definitely makes people say "Whoa.." when I pull it out.

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>>31566719
>posting the most boring spyderco knife in the worst finish

>>31568116
>Imblying most spyderco's are bought for their appearance

>>31568116
I have never been a fan of coatings on blades. I'm also not doing any sort of long term caustic shit and I'm fine with wear. Or were you talking about the g10?

>>31568036
Thanks komrade. Basically said my exact mindset on the code 4. The Raja and voyager look so damn fun, but the recon one just looks reliable and solid. Thanks for the help man.

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First one I carry and use every day around the farm cutting bail twine or opening sacks of chicken feed or the like

Second one I use as a utility for cutting wires or chipping at wood to get a rope through it.

Third I use for harvesting small game and waterfowl.

>using knives

Fuck me am I right?

>>31568134
>>31568143
I was referring to buying anything in the digital UCP pattern.

>>31568204
Figured. I was hesitant, but I get sick of just black g10 knives. Probably going to replace those scales or make some in the future.

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Posting what I got, poorfag here

>>31567853
I'm fucking retarded. I googled Recon 1 to see what it looked like and realized I own one after seeing the image. This is what happens when you own two dozen production knives

>>31568247
C...cool story bro

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Picked up a d2 mini grip for 40 bucks.

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>>31569993

>>31569903
I realize this is probably a product image, but if you actually own one, how is the action? Seems like it would almost have a kick of sorts due to the snap of the action and the mechanism used.

>>31568173
Dat Chinese buck copy

Had the same one.
Was my grandfathers

Anyone know a good folding knife

>>31570119
Nope

>>31570119
What's your price range?
What are you using it for?
What kind of specs do you like?

DEETS man!

>>31570014
These guys are 10 minutes from me, I've played with a few ratworx chain drive knives and they're essentially the same feel as an assist open knife. It's a pretty heavy knife, so when the blade locks back, it's got a little snap to it, but if you've ever used anything with an automatic or assist open, it feels just about the same.

>>31570119
Spyderco tenacious, delica
Ontario rat 2
Buck 110
Kershaw leek, volt, cryo

These are generally k approved and hit most price ranges.

>>31570219
Thanks for the info man! Had a feeling they were a bit heavy to counter that.

>>31570262
>no cold steel recs
DROPPED

>>31570203
Just every day carry
I can go up to 100 bucks

>>31570480
What size are you looking for?
Spring assist or no?
Lock type?
Blade steel?
Scales?
Blade shape?

>>31570511
4 in is nice
I like a straight edge never was a fan of tanto styles ans the rest k dont really care

>>31567853
the crkt m16 is a shitty meme knife.

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>>31570545
>thatsjustlikeyouropinionman.jpeg
I've always liked CRKT, great customer service and designs, though lacking in quality sometimes. That knife was with me for an entire Afghanistan tour so I'm kinda partial to it.

>>31570545
>calling something a meme makes it a meme
you are the meme anon

>>31570526
real steel h6s1
kershaw cryo II
ontario rat II

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>>31570526
Cold steel has the best 4 inch and over folders.

>>31570633
See: useless big knives for autistic mallninja middle schoolers. Dont get it twisted, the quality may be there but they are definitely mall store tier designs

>>31570706
>>31570706
Those are old ass gen 1 models dude. They have some mall ninja shit but just because it's big and black doesn't make it garbage.

>>31570706
What exactly about them is useless?

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>>31570577
>>31570601
i have to admit, i bought one myself.
it has a nice action, is well build and flicks and locks open nicely. but the terrible blade geometry of the hollowground serrated tanto blade ist just shit for any "normal" cutting task.
memetier mallninja knife that looks mean but lacks practical use

>>31570782
It's $30 bro. I'll be here when you come down off your high horse.

>>31570798
its double the price on the european market.
and for 60-80$ its way too useless

>>31570798

Rather go with a rat 1 or 2. Can't stand the Tanto or serrations. Plus AuS 8 steel too for like 23 bucks. Or you can spend like 33 and get the D2 steel one.

>>31570819
In that case yes, there's better offerings out there.
>>31570827
You do you man

>>31570851

Wasn't op who you were talking to. Just some one agreeing that the crkt knife is over rated. Rather go with knife with better steel than the shit crkt, with the shit Tanto and serrations. Only faggots go for Tanto points.

Don't go with the whole self defense reason for a tanto point. You don't need it, faggot

>>31570904
There's literally nothing wrong with tanto

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>>31570928

>>31570460
I'm the anon who's looking to buy a cold steel. Don't have any experience with using them, not gonna recommend them.

>>31570851
How dare you be reasonable on k. M16 is probably the only knife in Crkt s lineup outside the spew and a few others that I don't shit on.

>>31570940
Maybe if you're retarded. For 90% of cutting tasks that pocket knives are used for blade shape doesn't matter much. Unless you're autistic and have to be right 100% of the time.

>>31570940
>le memes
Nice argument buddy. Tanto is superior in terms of blade strength.

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Why you no kabar?

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>>31571011

>>31570983
Literally nothing wrong with CRKT, tantos or serrations.

>>31571011
>>31571016
Because they're fucking memes.

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>>31571011
i do eskabar

>>31571029
Why tho?

>>31571056
The kabar fighting knife is a shadow of it's former self which has gone to shit through Chinese manufacturing and terrible QC, while the company relies on their namesake to swindle customers out of their money. And the zombie knives with dayglo colors you posted prove my point for me.

>>31571017
The only issue I have with Crkt is the qc issues. I can admit that they have many solid knives and have stepped their game way up, with designs like the homefront. Just personally wary and not crazy about some of the designs, but that's personal preference.

>>31571056
Rat tail tang.

So to the anon who was answering questions about cold steel and k in general, need me some opinions and thoughts.

Deciding between, the voyager tango xl, the rajah 2 and rajah 3.

Voyager and 3 fit my budget, but the 3 is a little small for the balls to the wall Shit that I was looking for and the voyager is a bit plain design. The raja 2 is over budget, but also had the pull opener and is fucking huge.

All are cts bd1, all are gonna be fun to fuck around with. Not familiar enough with cold steel to make a definite jump.

>>31571011
Gib d2 kabar

>>31571573
I'd recommend against anything XL unless you really just want a "show" knife with limited practicality, as you can't carry it comfortably in most pants. The rajah 3 still has the pocket deployment thumbdisc so perhaps that's your best bet. Unfortunately they don't make a large Rajah 3 that I'm aware of. Voyager isn't a bad choice either. Have you looked at the Spartan or Talwar?

So I ship to boot camp in 26 days and my mos will be logistics. Any recommendations for a good edc folder. Price range about $200.

>>31571749
Ivw looked at both and and again, this is mainly just to dick around with and be a generally excessive knife/try out cold steel. The rajah 3 is the medium/regular size of the three rajah. The Spartan I didn't care for the handle and the price I was able to get it at, the talwar, I didn't care for the blade shape and price, mainly price. My budget for this was 70, which the voyager xl and rajah 3 fit, but I would love to try the opener of the Raja3, and would love a massive knife like the xl and rajah 2.

>>31571820
Spyderco tenacious, easy to sharpen, easy to clean, reliable and strong lock.

Spyderco endura, better steel,easy to sharpen, harder to clean, stronger lock.

Benchmade minigrptilian, solid steel, strong lock, higher price than previous answers, not hard to clean really but not easy, fluid lock.

Spyderco military, huge Limerick folder, maxes out budget.

Benchmade Osborne 940, solid, sweet looking, light and reliable, same issues as minigriptillian

Crkt homefront. Expensive for aus 8, but a solid, reliable and easy as shit to maintain design.

Or get a multi tool.

>>31570119
My fav edc was the Kershaw skyline

>>31571932
in that case look at cold steel ak47

>>31571932
I was looking at the leatherman MUT, any thoughts?

>>31572021
the blades on multitools are shit. you'll need a standalone knife.

>>31571932
Man $70 is kinda hard to work with since you want a thumbdisk and a larger knife, but don't like the Spartan. What do you think of what this anon said >>31571992

>>31572043
Kek fuck you fag leatherman has great blades

>>31572220
kek fuck you fag no multitool has a good blade

>>31572240
Who are you trying to convince bitch boy?

>>31572240
This is false.

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Any clue what knife this is?

>>31572574
An oversized m16 bayonet

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>>31572574

>>31571992
>>31572055
I did and was considering it as I like the look and construction, but the price is nearly equal to that of a rajah 2 for me. The mini is in my range almost. Again the thumbdisk was more a secondary thought than being huge. I have a number of standard sized knives currently, so I'm going for something a bit different. Also the price is more so I don't go overboard than anything else. It can flex, but setting a limit helps to really reign my choices in.

>>31572021
Like the other anon said, a standalone knife is better. I should've said, a multitool and cheaper knife, that's on me. Mut isn't bad, bot worth the price to me. Don't personally think it'd be optimal for a logistics position, unless you want it pulling double duty. Better in my opinion would be a leatherman wave or something similar and a mid price knife. I'm partial to Gerber multi tools due to otf pliers, but to each their own.

>>31564784

i'm actually getting a cold steel Talwar 4 inch in coyote brown for a defensive knife,

i'll admit though, they are large and i feel like they are made to be shown more than used but fuck everything if they don't work to make a crackhead run off with his pipe between his legs when you whip it out

it definitely has the intimidation factor if you live in a state that doesn't allow CC

>>31572574
Friday can't come soon enough

>>31572690
I knowww im so fucking ready

>>31572681
Espada>talwar
That being said I still want an XL talwar

I've gotten a trade offer for an Emerson.

Anyone own any Emersons? I've always wanted to own one, but I feel like they're overpriced for what you're getting and it's hard to get a straight answer that's not totally biased towards or against.

>>31572958
I own a Kershaw Emerson so I don't think I'm too biased. That said, you get what you pay for, and USA quality will cost you. What're you trading for it?

What's the best legal concealable knife I can own in commiefornia

>>31573074
A steak knife.

>>31573074
California, you can belt carry any fucking thing you want. Why limit yourself just to be legally concealable

>>31572873
i have one the 5 and a half inch fully serrated. its still sharp as fuck after 4 years

>>31573074
You can carry any knife you want as long as it isn't one of the restricted knife types. http://www.knifeup.com/california-knife-and-balisong-law/

I usually carry a xm 18 3.5" slicer or a pm2.

>>31573211
Is the 5.5 the biggest they make? I want an XL talwar

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>>31567641
I heard it too, espadabro.

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>>31573587
Espadas of KTG, unite.

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>>31564784
I'm thinking of getting a Leatherman Crater. I want something for EDC that is practical without screaming tactical and thinking this might be it given it has a bottle opener/carabiner clip, 1/4-inch screwdriver, Phillips, removable pocket clip. You also have the option of serrations and the steel is good. What do you all think?

>>31573758
Please don't.

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>>31573664
Fuck yeah!
Might also get a Voyager xl or an aluminum Ti-Lite 6" soon. At this point, I just like my benchmade for edc. The rest are for fun, even though they get carried too sometimes.

>>31570782
You bought the serrated tanto version and then complain about the knife having a lack of functionality, I sure as shit know where the problem lies there fella

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>>31573788
>the folts Bowie and leek
Are you me?

>>31570994
Why?

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>>31564784
Won't be shipped out until January :(

>>31573822
>teleports behind you
just google it kiddo

>>31573518
yes it is, trust me its big enough. i can barely fit it in my pockets and im a larger man

Are there any m4 bayonets that aren't short babby tier kabars?

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>>31573817
Soon...

>>31570745
Though I don't own one, I was trying to figure out what he meant by that as well.

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>>31574082

>>31574111
He's a shitposter who hates cold steel because of their over the top marketing. Ignore him.

>>31574258
>>31574111

this

I think its great these threads are nothing but cold steel kiddies, spydershills and 3muchmoney5u custom buying faggots

>>31574785
i cri evertim i see a pic of some dude's drawer with $5k worth of pocket knives sitting in it

>>31574808
Idgaf except they cant help but tell us theyre stacked. Ive seen people blow cash on way worse shit than knives, what kills me is every once in a while someone posts like 300 bucks worth of gas station shit, or all 20 of their spydercos

>>31574785
>>31574850
Please enlighten us to your knife expert collection and point out why all the brands you mentioned are bad

>>31574895
Where the fuck did i say any brand was bad you stupid faggot?

>>31574948
>cold steel kiddies
>spydershills
>gas station shit
Dunno you tell me bucko

>>31575104
>mtech lives matter

>>31575104
>bucko
Not him, but that just makes you sound like a pirate. Use stepdad/gym teacher terms to belittle someone. Here's some ones that will work for you next time: big guy, pal, cheif, buddy, champ, etc.

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>>31575155
>tfw you have probably owned and broken over $100 worth of mtechs.

>>31575206
Nice strawman, pal.

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>>31575155
It was 10 bucks and was a damn solid work knife. Some of them are decent, but more of them are shit.

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>>31575235
How are you gonna use what I taught you against me? After I tell your mother, we're gonna have to talk about this later, sport.

>>31575239
>Tip down carry.
The cringe never ends.

>>31575293

>tip up carry

You're right, the cringe never ends with people like you here.

>>31575104
Whats it like being retarded anon?

>>31575314
anon plz i have a espada xl and it tip up carries

>>31575293
Literally nothing wrong with tip up carry but okay.

>>31575380
Ever edc it in public?

Also to the people who were trying to help my annoying ass find a cold steel knife, ended up going for the rajah 3. It's not fuck huge, it it's a good start, a bit ridiculous and has edc potential. Thanks for all that.

>>31575660

>Literally nothing wrong with tip up carry but okay

if anything its superior

>>31575701
Ah fuck nuggets I meant to say tip down as I was replying to tip down. I agree it is superior because of personal preference and deployment method and comfort.

>>31575701
>>31575660

>falling for the tip up meme

>>31575717

the way i see:

work knife:either way is fine

defensive knife: tip up.

>>31575725

>meme

there is literally no way you can call it a meme and have a proper argument to back it up.

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>>31575729
Same, also depending on the size of knife.

Ones like my redpoint is only tip down and that makes sense with the deployment. My gnome I vary depending on how I feel, because the clip can allow for better grip with the small size.

Carrying a pocket deploying knife tip up is the only way.

When you carry tip up, the opening mechanism is down furthest in the pocket and allows you to grab the knife in the most secure way to deploy it of it's not a pocket deployer.

>>31575774
sauce on the left knife? thats sex

AFAIK this thread is number #44. This should be previous: >>31513395

>>31575952
Good on you for keeping track anon. Are you the original /ktg/ OP?

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>>31575952
>not checking out my failed thread before it crashed and burned >>31559443

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>>31575844
Buck redpoint, smooth slide button lock, rubberized handles for non slip grip wet or dry, 420 hc steel blade. Nice knife, solid and reliable. Also very smooth and can open fast as Shit. The button allows you to swing it open like a benchmade, but your supposed to use the ribbed top, which is actually the bottom of the blade insert.

Bought it after a knife failed on me and nearly got my finger off. Comfy even in large hands and the pocket clip is different, but solid.

Persistence for scale. It looks slightly larger due to the clip position, but really it's almost identical in length.

so...which thread are we actually migrating to

>>31576082
thats pretty cool anon, thanks!

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>>31575844
Top view. The pocket clip works very well given the material kg the handle. It just feels odd if your used to higher tension pocket clips.

>>31576098
No problem. Not sure why bucks website has it at such a high price. Got mine for about 26 bucks.

>>31575835
Yet the way I grab my knives, it means deployment is on the opposite side of the knife and I have to turn it in my hand.

>>31576141
wut

>>31575660
I used to edc my Espada for a month straight. Then I dropped it and the thumbdisk broke off. I sent it for repairs and got it back just in time to go spend the rest of summer break with my family in MA. Checked the knife laws up there and no waved knives allowed for carry. Summer ended and now I'm back on campus with a 3.5" blade limit. Would carry it if I could. It went with me in front of cops in stores and military police on base. None of them (or anybody else) seemed to notice or care.

>>31576088
Stay here.
>This is /KTG/ #45 fyi

>>31576154
I grab the knife with two fingers, tip down the handle falls into my palm with deployment under my finger for a flipper or my thumb for a stud. Tip up deployment lies down near my pinkie and I have turn the knife to deploy. Given the option I always choose tip down, never used a wave though.

>>31575729
>the way i see:
>work knife:either way is fine
>defensive knife: tip up.
Either is fine for both work knife and defensive knife.

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Best reliable folding knife for under $100
GO!
Hard Mode: serrations
Expert Mode: spring-assisted

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do you like my glock brand glock knife /k/?

>>31577387
Kershaw Blur

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>>31577387
>>31577402
Or did you mean fully serrated?

Probably gonna pick up a Woodsknife puuko

Anyone here have one?

Are kukris simply a meme or are they any good?

>>31577448
Probably both, I enjoy the shit out of mine but I'd probably also enjoy the shit out of an 18" Latin machete or a Golok too.

>>31577448
They're good enough that you'll see people on both sides, personally I don't like them.

I think they do decent as a machete, but a real machete is significantly better, but I HATE having to use one as a hatchet. They're just too weird and cumbersome to do camp axe type work.

Note that it depends heavily on where you live whether or not you will ever need a machete, but you will basically always need a camp axe for innawoods shit. When I'm in Vermont I just carry a machete and a camp axe because I can carry a bit of extra weight and I don't want to a) swing a kukri around for hours in the woods b) fumble around with a kukri for hours once I get to camp

In Missouri I just carry an axe.

>>31577466
>They're just too weird and cumbersome to do camp axe type work

That's the main function I use mine for, I alternate between my hatchet and kukri

>>31577476
It could definitely be because I haven't used it enough to be proficient, I took one on a couple trips and didn't like it and just went back to hatchet/machete which I've used since I was born.

>>31577466
Machetes are pretty much worthless in the temperate woodlands of my country. For bushcraft I have a Gränsfors Bruk's axe and my grandfather's puukko. The kukri would be kept at my bedside since my guns need to be stored in the cuck locker and I want to be able to defend myself immediately if need arises. So I'm mainly asking in regards to it being used as a weapon in the confines of a small house.

>>31577505
Pilum gladius combo

If they can't attack your flank (hallway) spear will wreck shit even if solo, if the enemy somehow disables your spear (grabbing it because you're a scrub, the man robbing you was actually a doppelsoldner, etc) you can switch to your backup of based gladius.

Don't you want to defend your house properly?

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Does anybody have knowledge on how to tell good Damascus steel from low quality Damascus? Do you guys consider Damascus a meme metal?

Anybody know the best place to get myself a Chris Reeve Sebenza? I've heard it has a fit and finish that is second to none.

>>31577538
True Damascus cannot be made in modern times, modern damascus is literally just steel with pretty lines in it. It isn't better or worse than a similar steel.

>>31577538
Just avoid Pakistan and Chinese Damascus.

>>31577586
>cannot

Um, no.

It can, people just rarely bother

>>31577687
>It can
Literally lost to time, like greek fire.
Show me a link to where I can buy a true damascus knife.

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Cutlass cat

Their sword machetes are fun to beat to shit while I can save up for an Albion knight

Could anyone recommend me a leatherman for edc? Also, whats a good innawoods fixed blade

>>31577784
>good innawoods fixed blade
http://morakniv.se/en/produkter/classic-3/

Best cheap stabby slicy

And whatever the original heavy leatherman was, none of that skeleton shit

>>31575729
4 inch blade tip up on your backpack shoulder strap is comfy as fuck.

being able to get you knife out and back in easy with one hand is just great.
i carry my gek edc like that and i am thinking about making my tip down shoulder holster to carry it without my backpack in the same position

downside: people call the cops, even if its legal here.

>>31577784
leatherman rebar is best bar

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https://www.knifecenter.com/item/CN2484HC/Condor-Tool-and-Knife-CTK248-4HC-Woodlaw-Survival-Knife-4-inch-Carbon-Steel-Blade-Micarta-Handle-Leather-Sheath

Looks cute and I'm looking for a simple blade that's easy to sharpen. Basic camp duties is what I'd use it for.

>>31577906
Whoops, skipped my question... should I get this or is there something better at this price point?

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>>31577784
Leatherman Surge.

>>31577394
Fag

>>31576173
I forgot that the thumb disc broke. Also imagine it depends on area, not necessarily cuz of laws, but by social norms. In SD no one really gives a shit when you flick open an endura in the middle of a store.

>>31577387
1) Spyderco delica/endura
2)benchmade minigrip?
3)only one I know is the Kershaw blur or leek.

>>31577546
It's called don't. Buy something worth it.

>>31577910
I've got one, I like it a lot.

I got mine from baryonyxknife.com, small mom&pop website. Highly recommended, he'll offer a "special grade" option on a lot of the stuff he sells, where he will refine and improve the factory edge. He's also available via email and is pretty friendly/helpful. Sorry for the shill, but it's a pretty good source.

There's probably some pretty good competitive options out there, but you could drive yourself crazy looking at all of them. Condor generally presents a damn good value for the cost/quality.

>>31575984
Actually, yes. I was the one that atarted it a month or two ago. I mean there's been knife generals before but I'm the one that "started" the /ktg/. You guys are what actually made it happen.
>>31576057
Oh sorry I didn't see it. I've been kinda busy having a life for once in my life. So I guess this is #45?

>>31578612
I saw it, posted like five pictures in a row, only a couple responded and then it died

>>31577394

cute hands

>>31577448

Kukris are middle of the road moderately okay at everything when you could just carry separate
tools for an extra 1-2lbs of weight for more effectiveness.

>>31577538

Damascus is just two or metals with different corrosion rates forge welded together, it will always be equal to or worse than a mono-steel knife as in the modern age we don't require spreading out impurities or spreading out carbon across a whole billet.

>>31577784

Maximum poorfag is mora companion, I used it for years.

>>31578660
>Damascus is just two or metals with different corrosion rates forge welded together,
That's what it's been known as since the 80's, originally it was another name for Wootz steel which is long gone.

>>31578686

Well yes, but even wootz steel is shit compared to monosteels these days because the purpose of wootz is to even out the carbon in the metal allowing for more uniformity, as well as create carbide bands within the steel , a problem that doesn't need to be solved these days, and there have been recreations of wootz steel. I like the series from Niels Provos from the good camerawork and voiceover, though I'm sure there are more.

>>31578797
Richard furrer has made it

Baltimore knife and sword has done it too.

It's very tricky to make and forge, but it's not a secret

I love how this thread goes from tip up/down bait to discussing the existence of wootz steel.

To not just shit post, I understand the process of making wootz steel is significantly different to current steels, but had there been a comparison done to wootz? As in what would be a modern steel with relatively equal performance?

I imagine that would be a difficult comparison to some extent due to the carbon nanotubes in wootz, but it probably exists.

>>31580026

Wootz steel is so inherently expensive to make that it wildly depends on the person making it, however, J. D. Verhoeven and many other scientists have tested various samples of wootz and find it, while excellent compared to most steels of its time, far weaker in edge mention, hardness, and toughness, in comparison to nearly all modern high carbon alloy steels such as O-1, or even 440c.

>>31580106
Really? I mean it is somewhat unsurprising that even commonplace steels of our time would be better given our advances in processing and production, but I held some hope that, it's expensive nature aside, it would hold some relevance to something lower end at least because of how impressive it was at the time. Makes sense though.

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>>31573518


Idk if you're still in the thread anon but this is my talwar.

After some inspection the tip needs a touch up but nothing serious,

>>31580603
I'm indeed here. Nice blade man, I wanna pick one up eventually but can't really justify it right now cause of the Espada.

>>31581068
I feel you funny thing is i want a coyote brown espada, you know where i can get one?

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Should i bite the bullet and order it /k/?

>>31581095
Got mine from bladehq

>>31581208
You can do a lot better than memebar

>>31581208
Do it. Absolutely my favorite knife. Had my CUTCO KABAR for years and it's probably he only knife I'll ever carry.

>>31581356
thanks anon

>>31581208
Fucking junk. Don't do this.

any suggestions on karambits for edc?

Posting from mobile so no ctrl+f, but does anyone have a recommendation on a tomahawk other than the CS line. I'd like something to compare to or at least some other options.

Just want one for funsies.

>>31581665
Cold steel has some nice ones.

>>31581665
A non karambit edc knife.

>>31581692
Haven't heard anything bad about sog tomahawks. If you want something weird try Spyderco. Crkt is also coming out with a nice one the birler I think.

>>31581665
budget?

>>31581784
I'd say <$100, but i know quality wise thats too restrictive

What is a good budget Kukri to tide me over for a while? Schrade and Cold Steel both look intriguing, though I hear the first one is sharper and 'good enough" whereas Cold Steel is duller on purpose.

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Just got one of these.

As a free hand sharpener, surprised how this thing does a fair job on my beater knives. Anyone else got one? Purchased it for the diamond rod for serrations which also works well.

>>31581784
http://www.knifecenter.com/item/FOX590/fox-derespina-folding-karambit-g10-handles

http://www.knifecenter.com/item/SCH110/schrade-folding-karambit-black-9cr18mov-hawkbill-blade-black-g10-handles

http://www.knifecenter.com/item/CS22KFS/cold-steel-22kfs-tiger-claw-folding-karambit-serrated-blade-g10-handles

http://www.knifecenter.com/item/SCH112/schrade-sch112-shasta-mcnasty-karambit-fixed-double-edged-hawkbill-blade-thermoplastic-elastomer-handles-thermoplastic-sheath

http://www.knifecenter.com/item/SCH111/schrade-sch111-karambit-neck-knife-hawkbill-blade-skeletonized-steel-handle-thermoplastic-sheath


enjoy anon

>>31581922

goddamn it

>>31581665
i'm tired as fuck

>>31581773
Know of any with classic aesthetics?

>>31581371
memeculture means nothing to me, but im open to any other criticism on the knife
>>31581424
elaborate

>>31581911
One shouldn't sharpen a workhorse knife too much though correct? I have no experience with clearing via kukri or machetes that I didn't barrow.

I typically have used axes but again I don't personally own them. I'm a first time buyer and I like Kukri and ax. I don't want to spend more than $50 for something I won't use too often tho.

>>31581692
Google Chrome browser will Ctrl+f. It's a real time-saver.

>>31582315
Thanks my man. I see now they've improved the app enough to be worth using.

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You mean like pick related? Isn't double sided, so technically a hatchet, but still. Crkt birler. Trying to understand what you mean by classic aesthetics. Assuming you mean wood and steel and preferably native looking?

>>31582196

a knife is made to cut
if a workhorse knife isnt meant to be sharpened it defeats the entire purpose for why the knife was made.

it was made to cut things.

and if you dont get the most out of a fine edge with the tools around you, is it really worth it.

just a thought, this is why edge angles exist. if you want a nice relief edge and thick stock to your edge go to like 24 degrees and it will last longer.

>>31582196
Not condor, but you get out of your tools what you out in, most of the time. There are always some miracle Chinese penny machetes and some really shitty 20 dollar machetes, but with axes and similar cutting tools, you get out of them what you put in.

Also amount of sharpening really doesn't matter within normal means. Don't just sit with it on a belt grinder for hours obviously, but sharpen it when it seems to dull or generally needs maintenance.

>>31582435
I'm actually on Chrome Dev because I think it loads pages faster. Give it a try too if you start to slow down. May just be my phone though.

>>31581665

Folding:
Fox/Derespina Chiroptera
Spyderco Karahawk
Cold Steel Tiger Claw

For fixed:
Derespina Factory Model 10 (waitlisted, you'll have to wait until winter)

Also check Pinoy Steel, Kali Gear, Kris Cutlery, and Traditional Filipino Weapons for traditional karambits.

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Just got gifted these by family friend who's totally /k/. Apparently that's real ivory on the folding knife. And the fixed is a Solingen, though I couldn't find that model on their sight.
What do you think?

>>31581911
I have one, and I keep one at the deli to sharpen the serrated bread knives. I like the diamond rod a lot. The v notches are okay, but I'd rather use a stone. Less wear and tear on the knife.

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Just got this knife, how gud is it?

>>31573823
How much is one of these? I always wanted a locking sodbuster

>>31582195
Has a rat tail tang. You want a full tang. Look up the difference dont just take my word>>31582196

>>31583296
i understand rat tail vs full tang but im not into bushcraft or anything taxing im just looking for an attractive and functional edc blade, the rat tail construction isnt that applicable of a con for me

>>31583211
Site has a preorder option, no price listed.

>>31582196

Work tools, if anything, should be sharpened more.

It has been repeatedly said all across the past 200 years that a sharp knife and axe is extremely important for easy work and safe work.

>>31583195
it's a quality throwaway/beater

>>31583112
>Apparently that's real ivory on the folding knife
Doubtful unless it's pre-ban, meaning it'd be a pretty old knife. Any markings?

>>31583296
It's a hidden tang, not a rat-tail tang. Rat tail tangs are a specific type of tang, and even they can be pretty strong. I don't know where this meme that only full tang knives can stand up to any use comes from.

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so can anyone give me some criticism against kabars besides the tang construction and that theyre memes, though personally if were calling knives memes i think colds steels tacticool gear out memes a kabar

also what are better options at the price range, im open to suggestions

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>>31585293

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>>31585372

>>31585293
The tang construction

Saying ''beside the obvious weak-spot'' wont divert from the fact they have an obvious weakspot

>>31585478
thats not enough reason for me considering im looking for an edc fixed not a beater, im not attempting to use it as a pry bar so im not worried.
if theyre are any other problems with it please let me know though

>>31577699
The process to make it isn't lost, but the exact blend of ore used to create Wootz steel is depleted. It's literally just a crucible steel method.

Please inform yourself.

>>31585511
do whatever you want then fucko one day when you need whatever knife you get to do its job youre gonna wish it could if it cant

>>31585842
then suggest alternatives fucko i told you im open to them

>>31585511
and you will look like a god damn idiot if you edc a kabar get becker necker or eskabar theyre kabars designed for edc and the whole damn thing is tang. pooty tang out the yingyang

>>31585857
i just did bud

>>31585895
im looking for a decent sized fixed blade with around 6 inches of usable blade
if i wanted smaller blade id just stick with my spyderco

>>31583211
$125 with the sheath, cheaper without. They did a pre-order on them, but could only get with the sheath at that time. I didn't want it, but I ordered it anyway because they sell out FAST.

>>31585857
maybe an izula, they are small and that means less of a safety blanket but if your looking fo edc theyre perfect and youll really never need more knife than that, just one that wont break lol. im not even jumping on some meme train ive had a kabar military issue bend out of shape by like twenty degrees just dropping my pack with it strapped on

>>31585978
>maybe an izula
thanks for the help, ill check out some videos on them
youve really had a kabar bend that bad just from that? thats a shame

>>31585958
shit man it isnt the kabar brand thatd make you look like an idiot carrying it around every day its the size edcing a fixed blade is socially unacceptable enough (i know i just said that on 4chan) like i said if you dont want to listen, dont

>>31586017
thats fair but im half native american so im around 6'6 and im a big guy at that. to be honest smaller knives look more ridiculous on my frame. i just enjoy fixed blades and i want one for the occasion that i wake up in the morning and feel like carrying one. more often than not my spyderco will be my actual edc

>>31586054
ive tried just about every higher end production brand at least once i used to have a whole slew of knives but recently i sold all junk and gt a benchmade 162 (absolute sex of a knife never imagined a better knife in dreams) an izulat and i held on to one of my bench made folders and i feel set for anything. never been so satisfied with my collection and i cant even call it a collection anymore idk quality over quantity, and real quality at that. i dont own any knives anymore without lifetime you break it we buy it warranties. the warranty on whatever you gets as important as checking all the boxes on the blade. look into esee knive , the camp lore, the lazer strike, the 3, all sound like what youre looking for

>>31586126
and all have outstanding warranties. you can cut an esee in half on purpose with a welder and send them a recording of you doing it and theyll replace it with a smile

>>31586126
>look into esee knive , the camp lore, the lazer strike
thanks for the help man ill check them out

>>31564784
Considering buying an esee jungles. Any anons have one or can give their two cents?

>>31586054
Go for whatever you want, but might I suggest one of cold steels massive folders just for the fuck of it? Rajah 2 is a folding machete essentially, and the voyagers easily have around 6 inches of useable blade. If you like Akbar the most go for that, if you want something with more reusable build, go for esee.

Also most people look odd wearing a fixed blade around.

>>31571011
>*tip break intensifies*

>>31586239
>but might I suggest one of cold steels massive folders just for the fuck of it?
thanks but ive got a buddy of mine who swears by coldsteel and carrys a voyager, if i got one i wouldnt be able to make fun of him anymore.
gotta be able to insult your buddys you know

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>>31586054
WA WA WA WA WA WA WAAWA WAWWAWAW WA WA!!!
What does that translate to in red nigger?

>>31586301
I can entirely understand. Just recently purchased my first cold steel to try it out after a long time of mocking people on here and in real life. Might have to turn to self deprecating humor but still.

>>31586340
something about how you should kill yourself, im a little rusty though considering my blonde hair blue eyes and uppermiddle class republican upbringing

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>>31586301
Protip, insult his knife because it is too small.

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>>31586054

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>>31581843
The CS is a beast when you re profile the edge

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>>31586380
fascinating

>>31586414
the envy in that feather niggers eyes "ONE DAY MAYBE"

>>31583296

>kabar
>rat tang

nigga it's a hidden tang, not rat tail. hidden tang knives have been used for literally over a thousand years by workmen.

>>31585221
I agree it's not a rat tail but it is a stick tang and it does have 90 degree junctions at the blade which is definitely not ideal, even a slight radius will increase the strength there a fair bit.

>>31585293
IMO the grind layout is horrible but that's from the perspective of someone who dislikes the sharpened prybars commonly available today. For me to consider one I'd ditch the fuller, move the grind up to at least 3/4 high and remove the dead spot in front of the handle, move the edge almost all the way back with just a small sharpening choil.

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this allows me to see my target clearly (even at night!) before i throw my knife at them

needless to say its an essential part of my edc

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high quality french craftsmanship right herre

whats a good EDC folder for 75-100 bucks /k/?

>>31586965
Spyderco endura 60-70 bucks.
Cold steel code 4 70 ish
Kershaw leek 60ish.

>>31587107
appreciate the reply, anon

>>31587107
>>31586965
im gonna second the endura

>>31586965
As this anon said, >>31587107 i'd add Spyderco Manix LW, Kershaw Blur/Knockout and Camber(3 Kershaws assisted) and you can generally get Benchmade Griptillions for under $100

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General thoughts on this knife? Carbon fiber scales.

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>>31570093
>>31568173
I have a real buck 110 knife . It's old

>>31577448
I mean... They're machetes with a recurve. Whether or not the recurve affects cutting performance depends on the steel, the sharpness, the grind, the job, and ofc the user. I'm a fan of recurves as far as aesthetics so I'd be more inclined to get one than a straight-bladed machete but that's just me.
If you like it, it's not a meme.

>>31587359
It's the BM I would pick, although I would choose the Al scales.

>>31581208
>serrated
I don't wanna start a meme war but let's just say field sharpening your knife will be easier when it's not serrated. Another possible meme war started but don't get a stick/rat tail tang. Go for a Buck or an ESEE if you're hurting for a fixed blade. The 119 is classy as fuck and Buck is just classic, but I've heard ESEE makes real nice fixed blades.

>>31587960

speaking of serration what is better for self defense? what would cut through leather of something thick?
maybe just brute intimidation?

>>31581665
Probably going to piss off some people but I'll say it anyway. Don't get a karambit.
The blade shape and tang ring make the design impractical/inefficient for regular knife work (cutting wood, rope, boxes, tape) and since it curves inwards, much harder to sharpen. Karambits are really only good for one purpose; grappling fighting styles. If that's what you prefer then I guess a karambit is okay, but you won't be able to do much very easily/comfortably with it. You should still be able to get the job done in a fight with just a curvier folder or short fixed blade that is more practical for EDC knife work.

>>31587976
Brute intimidation I'd say a Cold Steel Espada/Talwar XL or maybe a really long fixed blade/machete.
Serrations would definitely not cut leather in a combat situation unless you saw back and forth. A good sharp plain edge will slice through leather faster, cleaner, and deeper.
In all honesty, knives suck for self defense. But if you're just choosing between serrated or not, I'd go with not. If you want to know how to use your knife for self defense, watch some law enforcement training videos on YouTube or take some self defense classes. Hands-off styles will help you keep your enemy at bay with a knife better I suppose. But if you're already on the ground, grappling techniques work better so I'd say learn a bit of both and mix and match when the time comes. Really any knife that you can deploy easily/smoothly and has agility and a razor sharp edge with decent length (3"-5") will do you better for self defense than just your fists.

>>31587359
It's a beauty, but the handle is easily damaged. Steel is good though.

>>31567757
Is that knife any good? I kinda want one for the lels.

>>31588020
>Only really good for one thing

I know a few electricians who will never use a regular knife after trying one. They are incredibly useful at stripping cable

>>31588831
Yeah I imagine the scallop type serrations would be nice for that

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>>31588020
>Karambits are really only good for one purpose; grappling fighting styles.

Tell that to the rice folk who use it as a utility knife.

The karambit is a tool first and foremost, even weaponized variations (see bottom) remain weaponized tools. SE Asian martial arts only adopted the karambit because lots of people had one, not because it's some mystical flip ninja design.

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>thank goodness nobody said his trip yet
>might summon the autism once again
>another /ktg/ lost

>>31590383
Sog? If so, looks like you bleached the talwars g10. Gonna dye it finally?

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>>31590383
Is that a pentagon I see?

Anyone got those lightning otf's or one of those ganzo auto's?

Thinking about buying one and using it for edc (I can legally here)

I got some decent folders but an auto seems fun.

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>>31568011
I have both versions of the 6inch. It's an incredible defensive knife.

I would say, from a purely tactical standpoint, the Zy-Ex version is much better. It's extremely grippy, and light. I think a lighter frame for a piercing stiletto is better than a heavier one. That being said, the aluminum body version just feels absolutely amazing. It's extremely pretty, as well. Gunmetal greys and brushed steel, it's a beauty of a knife. It's worth it, to me, despite it being $120+, to put it in a collectors box.

Some people cry about the size of the 6 inch version, I honestly don't see any drawbacks to the size. The handle length just gives you more control, the blade length gives you exceptional reach, it's perfect. The 4inch blade is way too short for the purpose of this dagger. It's a swift poker/surprise knife. Drag it out of the pocket, get a few quick jabs in, move away and bait.

Anyone using these for EDC is retarded, they're purpose built murder weapons.

tl;dr: buy one

>>31590964
its a limited edition white g10 scale handle talwar
cold steel is doing this with a number of folders
recon 1
hold out
talwar
ak47 so on and so forth

>>31592303
i used to carry a 6 inch myself for self defense, ended up selling it and i regret it so much, i only hesitate getting another because im a lefty but there is that flipper for the pocket

>>31568230
Hey man. What model is that Benchmade (or PCC) and would you ever do consider letting it go? Really digging it.

>>31592501
>i only hesitate getting another because im a lefty but there is that flipper for the pocket

I would say it's more appropriate to the design of the knife to deploy it using the pocket catch. It's made to be yanked out in a surprise defensive maneuver. If you already have it out, then deploy it with the thumb stud, you're kind of giving it away before it has a chance to be useful.

You lose some 'fun' value, though, definitely. Playing around with it in the house, deploying it with the stud, is great. It does suck how it's not ambi, sorry man.

The Zy-Ex model is only like $50 on amazon right now. I think you should consider it again.

https://www.amazon.com/COLD-STL-TI-LITE-ZYTEL-STS/dp/B0016CPJ0W/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1475867480&sr=8-1&keywords=ti-lite+6

>>31592602
hey dude. thanks i actually will get it. i have missed it

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>>31592615

>>31592628
:^)

>>31592628 do you have any blade play personally by the way?

>>31589444
I love that design. Looks like quality mastersmithing right there.

>>31592646
You can get some leverage on it, considering the length of the blade its self, so there is MINOR side-to-side play if you really give it a good jostle from the tip (which is hard to do because of how thin it is). I'm stressing minor here, you basically would have to use pliers to grab it in any functional way. In normal practice, though, nothing. It's tight, all the tolerances are spot-on.

>>31592560
Following up on this. If anyone had any quality balisongs they're looking to part with, let me know. I might be interested.

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>>31564784
espadas are cool

>>31592787
the only thing missing in that photo is a good bottle of scotch

>>31564784
Have an Esee 4 clip point and Esee 6 normal drop point, no serrations on either. The 4 is my utility, daily carry, and fine work knife, nice razor edge. The 6 is my go to beater. I can clear brush, hork off some large chunks of wood, and mangle shit with it.

>>31592483
My bad. Thought it was sogs grey talwar (if I remember properly) that he was debating dyeing.

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>>31592787
What the hell are those espada scales supposed to be? Melted garbage bags?

>>31592787
Why did you put Wilson grips on an EMP?

>>31592787
Nvm, the I mistook the ruger logo for SA.

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>>31585201
Yeah, "Pakistan" in a circle.
I looked around and found this:
http://www.ioffer.com/i/1950s-antique-pakistan-pocket-folding-combine-knife-507385455

>>31581911
carbide will give you a shit edge

>>31593152
Correct. It is a grey. A very-very light gray. I decided to keep it how it is. Exclusivity and all that. Let the person I shill it to someday to decide on a diff color for themselves.

>>31591298
No, it's a Tsunami. My state laws frown on daggers, sadly. I have the battle ring, yeah, but I'm really not supposed to carry it. I mostly bought it off friend b/c it's discontinued. I only bought the Battle Ring b/c its discontinued. Figure I'll put it on eBay someday soon. Not sure. Feel like the longer I wait, the more money I'll someday get out of it.