This is it lads. The NFA review is almost upon us. What are

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>>31563568

>>31563568
>What are you doing to help stop them from taking more guns
start praying

Hey I'm in the US and I kind of like those lever action shotguns you guys have. If you get tired of being a subject and decide to come over here, please bring a few of them with you. Legally of course.

>>31564103
I'm sure you'd be able to find them somewhere.

>>31564103
You don't have cowboy shotguns in the states? Crying shame. I was planning to move there so I don't have to join a gun club to get weapons.

I want to write a letter but I don't really now what to say

apart from "gib guns pls"

>>31564639
check the FOU template for some ideas as well as:
http://ssaa.org.au/members/member-action

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Why do I keep getting the impression that civil disobedience has no serious history in the rest of the Anglosphere? that breaking the law for you, even asinine and oppressive laws, still has the taint of criminality? even when you know it's being used to put you into a corner you'll never get out of?

>>31564700
>>>/hm/

>>31564700
There's a difference between civil disobedience and advertising your disobedience. You may run a red light at 3am in the morning but you're not gonna go home and post about it on facebook.

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[spoiler]Why do I have a bad feeling about this friends[/spoiler]

>>31564723
Because it could go south very, very quickly

For whatever reason though, I'm optimistic

hold me, i don't want to lose my adler

>>31564700
British empire does not have much history with you

>>31564700
Australian apathy

>>31563568
Can you explain why its a bad idea?

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>>31563568
is this fear-mongering or are we going full out /britannia/
I hope it's fear-mongering. I was looking forward to doing conservation efforts and own rifles.

>>31564700
Because when our forefathers broke a bunch of laws, they got shipped down here.

>>31565618
It's not fear mongering at all. Worse yet, NZ might get australia style laws fucking us all over even more.

>>31565638
Oh jesus. That's fucked.
I'd prefer liberal over labour any day but some of their politicans are either batshit or just ideologically driven. I'm sure they very well know that these "Tragedies" weren't caused by guns. The most concerning thing is actually thinking about just what their real intentions are for this.

>>31565650
If "gun crime" increases as you bring in more brown people and refugees, guns are not the issue it's the fucking shitskins.

>>31563568
You know shit's fucked when the UNITED KINGDOM has better laws

No "Military Style" bullshit there

>>31565654
>at safety course
>instructor going over military style bs
>holds up pictures to compare what looks military style
>ones a ruger precision rifle the others an enfield
>he says it's fucking retarded but the ruger precision rifle is the "military style" one

just fuck my shit up

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Just got a letter back from my local MP from the polite fuck-the-NFA letters I sent them both before the election.
His reply was pretty positive and supportive, the form letter he got from Keenan was also nothing-bad-will-happen but it sounded like that was only because a lot of us had written letters, voted pro-gun etc etc so keep the pressure on them and they might crack.
>they fucked us over in 96 because they thought there were more antigunners to get votes from, the licencing figures and memberships of SFF LDP FOU SUA are beginning to show them there are more of us and we actually put money on our sport, compared to the few actual antigunners making empty noise in the meedia
So get writing, m80s.
Every paper letter is worth a hundred online pollwank petition clicks.

>>31565653
I don't think it's about that.
The government is basically looking at any event, regardless of it's intent and using as a reason to further their ideals. The response to port author was pretty much "Don't protect yourself" and that's not even a exaggeration. What is it now?

>>31565660
I bet you think red cars don't go faster too, baka@u famalam

>>31565660
MOAR SHOOTY BITZ EEKWULZ MORE DAKKA

>>31565668
What is the reason they don't want us to have guns though? This goes past "public safety". I genuinely believe this ties into the global movement of globalists and lefties trying to disarm people. There's a reason GCA is funded by the UN.

>>31565664
Do you know when the review is? Or when the deadline for the letters are?

>tfw writer's block

>>31565686
Check the FOU template in the OP for an idea and also this SSAA link for points to write about.

http://ssaa.org.au/members/member-action

Can FOU please organize a protest for when we inevitably get screwed over again?
This is just ridiculous. I'm so sick of this blanket ban approach to literally everything with this country.

>>31565701
How many people would it take to be able to be unarrestable? An open carry protest would be effective in front of parliament I reckon.

>>31565709
Effective in you getting shot probably

>>31565712
government stooge

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>>31565683
What the most disturbing part is, is that either through state education or just poor parenting a massive amount of the next generation, and the last few generations genuinely believe that we should surrender all our individual rights, freedoms and basically ourselves for comfort. They pretty much advocate against success, defense and power. They hate it vehemently. They're proffesional victims.

>>31565721
At least we'd die matyrs with everyone recognizing the violence of the state and the pigs that enforce its laws.

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>>31565683
Its a mix.
Lee Rhiannon like a lot of the Greens are actual excommunists who want to keep on destabilising the imperialist westerners.
Part of the 'we dont want gunz like Amerika' is standard hippie antiAmericanism, plus the femzbian antimale 'gunz iz penisez' mindfuck.
Underneath it all are the globalist idealists who seem to just be pawns for cunts like Soros to destabilise economies for profit, who need centralised authority for their scams to work.
>but our Strayan pollies arent really obeying any of these idealogical reasons.
Howard was just a shortarse cunt who had obviously had a life of being put down by real blokes and hated the manliness of guns.
The current crop are just suckers for any media spin and overreact to everything.
>but now OneNation LDP Katter etc are gaining a bigger power spin than the media lefties and balance of power, there's actually a chance they'll cut us some slack on NFA to try to get us back on side rather than give Pauline more voters

>>31565650
Just remember, it was the Liberals the fucked us the most. #96neverforget

>>31564700
Literally hundreds of thousands of semi auto rifles and pump action shotguns were not handed in.

In a country where that was a very large proportion of those total firearm I would call that some pretty serious civil disobedience.

To be honest though mate when you get out of the cities its a different country, you think a bloke that owns a 200000 acre property in Western Queensland gives a flying fuck if the government says he cant run a D9 through some scrub, shoot a heap of roos or own such and such gun.

>>31565683
Honestly, if it were the US or Europe I'd say Malicious agenda.

But Australia takes this approach to fucking everything. Road/Vehicle rules are an example. Get rid of all race tracks, fine people for driving more then 1kph over the limit, cameras on every intersection and all down the highway, massive police presence at any car meetup, and a nightly a current affair segment on how evil hoons are.
If you dont like generic ball sports then there isnt much to do in this country.
I guess its just part of the prison colony mentality thats just always been there and people just accept this bullshit.

>>31565732
I realize they've fucked us gun wise, I've known that for a whille. Look at Victoria and Canberra though, Labour would be no fucking different.

But it's etiher them or economic retardation and our great nation becoming another failure of socialism. At least the liberals get economics somewhat right.

>>31565721
>he doesnt want to die historic on the fury road

>>31565709
Hell no I'm not doing that. It would literally be Tienanmen square massacre 2.0.

>>31565712
Hair would be off collar...

>>31565736
>and a nightly a current affair segment on how evil hoons are.
this was always hilarious to me

>oy cunts stop drivin ur cars n sheeit

First they came for our guns, next up it's cars, drinks and clubs. Seriously the amount of restrictions constantly coming down on vehicles, alcohol, nightclubs, etc. What the fuck do they expect people to do?

I'm fuckin suffocating here mate.

>>31565736
>Get rid of all racetracks
Nigga I live few kilometers away from a drag. What are ou talking about?

The rest of that shit is quite literally common everywhere else.

Also, europe got gun confiscation ages before us and have a lot of retarded restrictions and laws. So you might as well take Europe out of the exceptions. America soon enough as well.

>>31565740
I agree with the Liberals a lot on paper but in practice they're just Neocons. And it's shame they basically castrated the Nationals party (who were vehemently pro-gun).

thank god for the LDP though

>>31565742
>Hell no I'm not doing that. It would literally be Tienanmen square massacre 2.0.
I don't think they'd open fire.

>>31565709
Depends on forewarning, anything over 15 is going to see full scale lockdown and retreat from everyone other then the military if their is no warning.

Say 50 or so with warning.

That said this is to be unarrestable on the day, I would fully expect your door to be kicked in later that night and be tragically shot whilst resisting arrest.

>>31565756
Nationals are probably what made the whole thing actually somewhat caring for Australia. If they're still existant in the party, I'd bet they're the reason why people like cory bernadi and abbot can step up. Hopefully this doesn't change immediately.

>>31565731
>OneNation
They used to be pro-gun, but they seem to have gone soft on the topic.

>>31565709
Yeahnah.
They wouldn't arrest a thousand OCers outside parliament.
They'd just take names and photos and knock on everybodys door individually weeks later when the media isnt watching, or just mail out court notices.
>write letters, join online and IRL political and proshooters groups. Don't do anything where they can spin it to you being the criminal but just keep putting them under popular pressure - the same as the vocal minority leftards do.

>>31565754
Public race tracks where cunts can go and do some sick doeys and shit on the weekend. Used to be one near me.

>>31565765
They are progun in that they won't vote for more restrictions afaik, aside from that it's not one of their core focuses but with a few letters it could be.

>>31565754
I think he is talking about the fact that heaps of race tracks have been closed down/restricted to the point of being useless over the last few decades because of the noise complaints from the suburbs that got built on their borders.

Place your bets, /k/

>a. Less restrictions
>b. More restrictions, everyone hands their guns in
>c. More restrictions, civil war
>d. More restrictions in some areas, less in others

>>31565766
Yeah but how would everyone get there?

The police would know it was going down and stop people from getting near where the rally would take place. Everyone would get arrested before it even started.

>>31565768
>>31565754
There used to be a couple near me but theyre gone now.
The other road shit hardly gets enforced overseas.

>>31563568
OP I have a pretty good r/ship with my local member. His party are in opposition, but our paths have crossed a few times over the years most recently with me handing out HTVs for the LDP in the last election. Anyway he wrote back to me straight away (I emailed), saying that he knows licensed shooters aren't the problem (melbourne crime wave here), and that the focus of his party was not further restriction. I did note in my email to him that I saw the shadow police minister rubbish the upcoming amnesty as a waste of time & that progun voters paid close attention to this kind of thing. Anyway was positive. Further letters to be written.

>>31565701
FOU will organise protests if anything shitty comes down I can promise you that.

>>31565778
>>31565768
Rest in piece.
>tfw can hear v8's going off sometimes as well as the raceway

I swear they use to let people go on big race-tracks and fuck around, what happened to that?

>>31565779
>d. More restrictions in some areas, a couple less in other, meaningless areas

>>31565787
Will they be open carry events?

>>31565765
Yeah, there are more pro-gun parties like SFF and Based Lionhelm, but the return of Pauline has the LNP - especially the Nats - shitting themselves, so there's a fair chance the few pro-gun Nats are going to push the rest to throw us a bone to stop us going to Pauline and wiping out their country seats

>>31565787
:3

Thank you for being what SSAA should have been

>>31565779
I'm going for "e. nothing changes"

it's the best we can realistically hope for.

Is fun literally outlawed in australia?

>>31565733
Where do those kinds of people buy ammo? I thought you needed some kind of license or proof of gun ownership to buy it down there.

>>31565788
>I swear they use to let people go on big race-tracks and fuck around, what happened to that?

Banned because the government needs to keep you safe for you.

>>31565787
you guys should add mugs or stickers or some shit to your web store so i can support the cause thru that, when i get enough money i'll probably buy a lifetime shooters union membership too.

>>31565779
> I fuckin wish
> Not a chance in hell m8
> Civil war won't start until the government are literally starving everyone, putting people into death camps, and patrolling the streets with MBTs, and probably not even then - it ain't me, so it ain't my problem
> Most likely

>>31565799
they have a license for their legal guns i'd guess, or they just have stored ammo and don't use illegal guns much, which would be a wise move.

>>31565800
This is why I hate suburban living and I'm ulitimately choosing to live out in the rurals once I've got enough. Some of the ridicolous shit you can get arrested for out here..

>>31565779

My bet is nothing.

Though if their is any change my bet is lever shotguns under 5 round moved to Cat B, over moved to Cat C/D. Maybe hardwood box storage for Cat AB removed as well.

>>31565798
No just licenced and registered, but you're not allowed to import any fun or constituent components of fun.

Also, your fun may not necessarily be recognised in another state, and licences are only recognised within the state of the issuer.

Gold Coast is fuarked.

There is literally no reason Cat C shouldn't be merged with Cat A/B and Cat D merged with Cat H.

>>31565801
They had a T-shirt campaign a while back, and they're coming out with hats soon.

>>31565798
Yes.
> Shoot guns
> They take your guns
> Drive cars
> They close the tracks n shit
> Play video games
> Banned
> Smoke to drown out the sorrow
> Banned

>>31565801
Yeh these sorts of things are coming.

>>31565798
There are restrictions for so much meaningless shit its frustrating.

If you dont know already.
>pepper spray
>tazer
>batons
>anything for self defence

Is completely illegal no questions asked.

Any kind of alternative activity/sport you can bet is heavily regulated.

>>31565806
Fug. Being forced to rely on an ever diminishing ammo stash I'd have no hope of replenishing gives me anxiety.

>>31565798
Pretty much

Boomers got to live in the carefree days of the 50's-90's, and then turned around and banned, regulated, or otherwise zapped the fun out of literally everything.

>>31565824
>yfw rape whistles are illegal

>>31565799
You do, but most fellas who have guns on the sly either already have a gun license or they have mates that just buy the ammo for them.

>>31565818
I'd wear a hat, t shirt is way too cringe for me though soz. And it's not subtle enough. A cap/bucket hat is alright though.

>>31565819
>government tries to ban pokies for taking advantage of addicted people
>increases taxes on cigarettes at the same time taking advantage of addicted smokers
hmmm this really made me think

government will outlaw/restrict anything that doesn't directly make them money.

>>31565816
>There is literally no reason why states, those entities that exist to restrict and regulate, should not relax their power and control over my hobby.
Yeah nah, that would go against their reason for existence.

>>31565831
U fuckin wot

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
I WANT OF THIS RIDE

Is there any way we could campaign to at least move closer to UK-style laws? It would be a step in the right direction.

>>31565835
>Bucket hat
You mean a Buckle hat

>>31565837
They ban "acoustic anti-personnel" devices.
Sounds like a rape whistle to me.

who /soveriegn citizen/ here?

>government tries to tell me to not waste water
>leave tap on in sink all day
>government tries to tell me to save electricity
>leave aircon on at 18c all day in summer

get fucked statists

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>>31565845
>You mean a Buckle hat
nah cunt a bucket hat

>>31565846
>/soveriegn citizen/
Literally terrorists in waiting, according to the government.

>>31565845
Sounds more like one of them things the army use to suppress riots

Rape whistles should be fine, I'm sure

>>31565846
>18c

WHY IS YOUR AIR CONDITIONER SET TO HATE SPEECH CITIZEN!?!

TIME TO GO TO RE-EDUCATION CAMP

>>31565856
Write ambiguous law, get ambiguous interpretations

>Buy a gun completely legit
>Transfer at a big gun shop
>Never got the pink registration slip

Is there a chance it's not actually registered to me?
If I ask the cops about it will they take it from me or just register it to me?

Quick, I need to know before they ban and come to confiscate it

>>31565846
We're surrounded by water, why do we need to save it?

>>31565844
Fuck it. If we're gonna campaign for better laws, might as well go balls deep and ask for the whole hog. Cat C/D, open carry, no registration. Or even go really outlandish and demand for Cat R and no licenses. That way when look at any 'compromise solution' it seems moderate by comparison.

>>31565870
don't say shit desu senpai

>>31565844
uk has lmao no pistols

at least we have that

>>31565882
But if they come and check my safe they'll notice a gun in there that isn't registered to me.

What I want is a way to find out if it's registered to me without asking them.

>>31565886
I doubt anyone is going to get into shit. Theyll just assume it got lost in the mail or some shit.

>>31565886
i see. if you have papers showing purchase and what not just blame the dealer and say you bought it legit and all that.

>>31565886
Do you have the receipt from the gun shop?

>>31565894
i mean that's if they ask you about it. i wouldn't go out of my way to cause hassle about it. or just ask the dealer. not the cops

>>31565880
Think about it, Anon.

> "The United Kingdom has looser gun laws than we do... Still think Military style matters?"
> "FACT: Britain has fewer shootings and looser gun laws than us."
> "Not even the UK has gun laws as strict as us."
> "Three times the population, less than a fifth of the land, and far looser gun laws: Let's follow the Queen's example."

People tend to think of Britain as some sort of gun-free crumpets-and-tea paradise, and yet you can totally get an AR15.

>>31565894
>>31565898
Yeah, I can't find the receipt.
I bought it a couple of years ago but only just noticed now.

I'm mainly thinking about making sure that they can get it nice and easily if they ever try to ban them. I wouldn't want them to have a hard time, after all.

>>31565870
Nah, happened to me.
Checked my registered list when Vic Licencing had a table at the gunshow.
It was on my list, they just said the paper wasn't mailed out. Still hasn't turned up in the mail, but it's definitely registered to me.
>going to the Altona gunshow this weekend to buy a few more hopefully

>>31565886
>What I want is a way to find out if it's registered to me without asking them.
I'm noguns still, so I don't know if this would work, but maybe ask the registry for a list of everything registered to you, so you can check the numbers/make/models to make sure it's correct, because you're a Diligent Danny.

>>31565908
Well is it on your weapons list. If you don't have one you can probably get the police to send you a new one.

I'd be happy if they just got rid of the registry

Anything more would be a miracle

>>31565917
What's that?
Can I access that list anywhere?

Asking the police for a list of the guns that are registered to me would sound suspicious as fuck.

>>31564628
We have lever action rifles, but I've never seen a lever action shotgun here. We have so many pump actions available it's ludicrous.

>>31565932
not really, I believe people use it for writing wills.

>>31565932
Why? Just say you cant find your current one and want a new one? They'll probably ask you to prove you are you and not some guy trying to figure out what guns are at your house but other then that they wont care.

>>31565905
Proof? What is required? Or are you talking about the single shot manual cycle BS?

>>31565905
I get what your saying, and it adds ammo to our side of the argument. But at the end of the day theres no point using half measures and if we stop fucking about we, as in the shooters of Australia, can throw our weight around and get some serious change happening. I mean there are more registered gun owners than Aboriginals.

>>31565951
maybe we should remind the lefties that the worst massacres in australian history were carried out by the government against aboriginals and had those abos been armed they could have defend their homeland

>>31565932
See>>31565912
Dunno which state you're in but Vic is on computer.
They just pulled up my list on the laptop.
Overall registries are useless. They got rid of the original one back in rthe 70s because it was too much work for no actual benefit, only to start all over again in 96.
>The Registry being disbanded is one of the first steps we can push for. Canada just got rid of theirs as it was costly and useless.

>>31565945
So who would I email, just LRD I guess?

>>31565960
Absolutely. Remind them that history has shown time and time again when the population disarms, the powers that be start fucking over everybody.

>>31565960
Nah.
Everybody pretends to be nonracist, but nobody's dumb enough to think letting boongs have guns is a good argument for less gun laws for the rest of us.

>>31565877
Go drink out of the ocean for a few days and then tell me why it's a bad idea.
>Hint: You'll die

>>31565960
>implying they wont just spin it so that it becomes a crazy right wing nutjob thing instead of a gun thing

>>31565984
What's this about the bongs

>>31565984
>yfw alcohol is illegal in a lot of aboriginal communities

>>31565989
Boongs, not bongs.

>>31565993
>yfw so is porn

>>31565989
Nah m80, not pomgolians, I said boongs

>>31565984
Imagine though if we did get the abbos banging on about how gun laws impact their ability to hunt on their traditional lands.
>Guns let us hunt for our own food and be self-sufficient from the white fellas.
>But your ancestors used spears and boomerangs, why you need guns.
>Fucken racist, you calling me a spear chucker you white dog.
>Oh-okay.

They'd be caught between gun control and being racist. All the lefties heads would explode from the double-think.

>>31566009
this is a good idea

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>>31565993
places out there that also cant sell fuel with ethanol at all, since they will drink it

imagine drinking like 6 percent ethanol fuel. drinking 6 packs worth of it just to get tipsy

>>31566009
Nah they'd just make hunter-gatherer classed as a primary producer.

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If abos couldn't get the smoking tax reduced ain't no way they'll get gun laws relaxed.

As much as lefties love to show how much they care about abos, they'll never let them off the leash.

>>31566023
Too much paper work. They would just place the race card again.
>Fucken white dogs. Need a bit of paper to do what my ancestors have been doing for thousands of years.
>Fucken Racists.

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>>31566016
Nah m8, they don't drink it, they sniff the fumes to get high.
Can only sell 'Opal' in the coonmunities - it has less toluenes and benzenes that vaporise, so they can't sniff it.
>even that wasn't their invention, they learned it from the WW2 Raafies up defending Darwin from the Japs, when they ran out of booze they'd sniff Avgas to get wasted

>>31566047
>actually, it was the Americans who introduced it.

>>31565977
Yeah, but this time it's the Lefties that think they're taking over, and when they're in power they won't want us peasants having guns to knock them off their perch.

>>31566009
The only abos that make noise in the media are the innercity inbreds and their white leftard niggerlover comrades, they think traditional hunting is chasing a government cheque.

>>31566062
>Lefties taking over
>Greens vote is more or less static
>One nation wins 4 seats in the senate
>Labour drifting more and more right wing
>LNP being torn apart by internal struggles between the conservative and moderate parts.

Doesn't seem that way to me.

>>31566047
they introduced opal fuel to combat sniffing, since its got little to no of the additives that get you high sniffing.

so they started drinking it

>>31566084
Greens are definitely growing, and the only reason why One Nation got in is because of the double dissolution.

>>31566102
Most young people vote greens. How do we stop them?

>>31566127
Get them to work. Seriously, I knew a girl who was super left wing until she started working, specifically in a management capacity. Her opinions on how taxation worked changed very quickly

>>31566127
Make it so only land owners or tax payers can vote.
Uni student, socialist alternative, muh fee fees voters should be genocided.

>>31566136
ow the edge

>>31566127
We need a political party that is economically centre-left/socialist and and personal/social as right-wing/liberal.

Labor, Liberal, and Nationals all define themselves mainly along economic lines. Greens are the only ones that really define themselves with both those above aspects, and it's the personal/social freedom stuff that draws the most voters.

So, form a party that is centre-left but promotes personal freedoms, pair together freedoms that draw people from both ends of the spectrum, and show why it's important to support both sides.

So, why it's important for a right-wing Catholic to support gay marriage, and why it's important for an inner-Melbourne barista to support guns.

>>31566102
>2012 Election, Greens got 1,116,918 votes in the house of reps and 1,159,558 votes in the senate.
>2016 Election, Greens got 1,385,650 votes in the house of reps and 1,197,657 votes in the senate.
>In 2012 the Greens had one person in the house of reps and 10 senators.
>In 2016 the Greens still have only one person in the house of reps and 9 senators.
> The greens senate vote peaked at the 2010 election at 13.1%, its now only 8.7%.
The greens are barely growing above the rate of population growth.

>>31565660
>actual mil surp rifle
Nah mate that's fine.
>modern hunting and target shooting rifle
Oi cunt! That's a dangerous military assault gun you got there!

Goddammit Australia. I like your country, but unfuck your sissy fucking government.

>>31566179
I think it's just a war on modern things. I bet there's some fudd at top who thinks synthetic stocks are satan.

>>31566177
You should measure the success of a political party over decades, not a few years.

Same with budget shit, I always say the budget of an individual is measured over years, a company's over decades, a country's over centuries. That's why when the Liberals pull this Debt and Deficit Disaster© bullshit, you should tell them to fuck right off.

>>31566195
A decline has got start at some point, and as far as the data goes, it started for the greens over half a decade ago.

>>31566179
We're working on it

>>31566164
Isn't that the LDP?

>>31566221
No, LDP is economically right/liberal.

>>31566221
LDP are libertarian. Completely against socialized anything. A lot of todays youth don't like that. What that anon is proposing is something with the personal freedoms of LDP but with socialism and left leaning economics.

What he's proposing is basically national socialism. Heil hitler.

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>>31566236
>What he's proposing is basically national socialism.
No. No heiling of Hitler is allowed in my party. You wanna heil of the Hitlers, you do that on your own time. We must retain a semblance of ordnung in the party damn it.

>>31566262
Shit, order! Order in the party.

>>31566216
Please do, I want to live /out/ in Tasmania with my guns one day.

>>31566265
1488~! at your service mein fuhrer

>>31566262
Shit I'll join up so long as I get to call the greens the watermelon party at every opportunity.

>>31566102
Pauline Hanson in Qld got in with plenty of votes. Literally had enough to insant win her seat in a regular election without preferences.

They jagged the second seat in Qld by the skin of their teeth. Wasnt much between their second candidate and LDPs first.

>>31566262
heh i won't need to work i'll be a card carrying member of the National Australian Shooters and Workers Party

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>>31566262
>mfw aussies just accidentally a whole NSDAP

>>31566278
We'll have to talk to our strategists, but I don't think that would harm our reputation to the mainstream and be counter-productive to our objectives, unlike a certain recent anti-Greens YouTube video.

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>>31563568
American here.

I hope they take them all away this time because that's what you deserve for giving in in the first place.

We don't pity you, we just laugh at how pathetic you are when you just go along with these laws. Sitting here with my AR-15 with 60rnd drum and it feels so good.

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>>31566309
>pic related
>it's you

>>31566309
Y'know, America had a much higher compliance rate with your assault weapons ban than we did.

Only difference is that yours had a sunset clause.

>>31566321
A sunset clause that hillary cannot revert.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oj4n1tsrfrk

>>31566309
Okay mate, calm your farm. We get that your upset because your type 2 diabetes meds cost you an arm and a leg.

>>31566333
>>31566313
Don't fall for posts from Greens voters trying to stir up anti-americanism.

>>31566342
Greens voters don't have the energy to shitpost. They lack protein and spines.

>>31566274
Tasmania is for Tasmanians only

>>31566365
ok chang

>>31566365
Didn't we kill them all though?

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So when's the review actually coming out?

Is anyone else secretly a little bit hopeful about it?

>>31566365
Two heads are better than one am I right?

Don't listen to that other American. As a true American patriot, I want all nations to experience more funs.

Best of luck to you all. I hope you can show them that Aussie gun owners are a good lot of people and their laws hurt you more than anyone else.

>>31566377
I'm optimistic, but then again, 'no changes whatsever' would be good news to me.

>>31566377
Probably lever action shotguns to 5 rounds only for Cat A/B. In all honesty I think the whole Adler business has done the Australian shooting community good. Its galvanized us, or at least some of us into actually giving a shit about gun laws in this country. I don't remember people writing to their local members and the AG's office before any of this shit happened.

>>31566365
Sure that gene pool couldn't do with some refreshing?

>>31566398
Yeah, no changes would still be a victory for us.
It'd be another demonstrated case of us at least knocking them back.

>>31566400
By giving the anti-gunners something retarded to cling onto rather than ">muhtin bryant" it's also made them easy to fight.

I'd say the public perception's definitely shifted a lot more towards gun rights in the last few years, especially among Asians.
And yeah, the firearms community is definitely stepping up a lot more.

The way I see it, we're going through the same stuff that America's gone through, just a couple of decades later.
Remember, if the antis are fighting us then it means they see us as a threat.

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>>31566377
No one knows, it was even rumoured to be out in July to capitalise on PA for more restrictions.

Don't know why people think October as there has been no announcement that this is the month.

>>31565753
To be fair, people driving around like fuckwits in the middle of the night is pretty annoying.

Never had a shooter bother me in any way though.

>>31566423
I don't want my bloodline muddied up with that filthy mainlander taint.

>>31565753
It's just classic bread and circuses stuff, except they're trying to ban the circuses and tax the bread.

>>31566400
I think the Adler controversy was all the work of Rob Nioa. I bet he made massive sales off it from all the people buying it to stick it to the greens.

>>31566454
Oh, you'll get my taint alright you cock tease.

>>31563568
Extreme violence.

>>31566485
Quite possible, but it doesn't take much to make people want to stick to the greens.

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Remington 783, Howa 1500 Mini, Ruger American, Savage Axis2

or save up for a Tikka T3x?

I want it in either 223, 243 or possibly 308 if it's a heavy barrel.

>>31566506
Lithgow in .308

>>31566513
nah fuck those lithgow cunts

>>31566485
the eternal anglo strike again

>>31566506
I'd save up for the Tikka T3x, but I own a Sako in .243 so I'm biased. My mate has a Howa 1500 in .223 that is forever having extraction problems Not sure about the other ones.

.243 is a fun cartridge and a great all-rounder for Australian Hunting but ammo is more expensive than .308 or .223.

>>31566309
Somehow I highly doubt you are american, just a troll with no nationality.

>>31566558
Yeah Tikka seems best bet for a good budgetish rifle. If I can find one on sale.

More expensive than 308? Fuug. Might have to go up or down a calibre depending on whether I can afford a varmint barrel.

>>31566601
I handload so I can't remember how much ammo actually costs. But to roll my own its still about a $1 a shot.

Good luck Ausbros. If worse comes to worse and the Aussie Gov't enacts measures that spark a civil war, just think of all the American Volunteers you'll have coming down to help you.

>>31566622
>>31566601
>t3x in 243 only comes with a 3 round mag

what le fuck

>>31566713
Good thing the mags from the T3 also fit the T3x

>>31566753
yeah but those lucky13 kikes still want me to fork over $100+ for a bit of polymer and a spring

How do I broach the subject of guns and tell my friends to get their firearms license?

>>31566805
Its Australia, anything worth having has at least a three digit price tag.

>>31566858
you'd think tikka could at least throw in a second mag

>>31566869
Well maybe when you buy it see if the gun shop can do you a deal. Get a scope, mag, sling and see if they'll throw in a discount.

>>31566883
I think I need a job first it seems.

>>31566854
Simple, I'll give you the steps

>Start acting distant
>Talk about watering the tree of liberty
>get irrationally aggressive when they ask if you are okay
>begin talking about death and how you no longer fear it
>Leave your computer open on the unibombers manifesto
>Talk about your guns and how you can it man sized targets at 200m constantly
>Ask them to take pictures of government buildings for you because you can't anymore (don't mention why)
>last step, buy a lot of ammo and tell then the "big day" is just around the corner and that your whole life has been leading up to this moment
>then casually ask if your friends like guns.

>>31566909
But I tried all that already

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>>31566909

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>>31566909

>2016 Q4
>airsoft still illegal
???

>>31567295
But it could be used to train illegal militias and terrorists! :)

>>31564628
They exist, anon Is just dumb

Always wanted myself a break action airgun for fuckin around with. Any recommendations for something that'll last a lifetime and is fairly high power?

I was looking at the diana model 34 but I know fuck all about air guns.

>>31565766
>They wouldn't arrest a thousand OCers outside parliament

you wanna fucking bet m8? if anything they'd call it a "racist coup" and send in the army, and everyone watching on telly would approve of it because basically 99% of this country is bluepilled as fuck and thinks guns are hitlermachines

>>31567970
Why would the army act against gun owners?

>>31565845
>Buckle hat

what the fuck is a "buckle hat"

>>31567996

gun owners are basically pariahs to most people here, go talk to some cunt about guns not being the devil, watch that PANIC spread across their face when they realize you don't think guns are evil, then you'll hear some shit about "OH MY GOD WHY DO YOU LOVES GUNS NOBODY NEEDS THEM LOOK AT AMERICA DO YOU WANT SHOOTINS EVERY DAY" etcetera

>>31568024
literally only if you're talking to sissy cunts

i don't know a normal dude who thinks guns are evil. they just cant be fucked going thru the loopholes to get licensed.

>>31563568
This is actually a really sad thread to read.

>>31569168
welcome to the land of dead dreams

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>tfw get trod on anyway

>>31569691
Deserve it for giving in in 96 tbqhwyl

>>31565845
>buckle hat
Please don't send a letter to your local politician. We want to look like we have half a brain at least.

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Hand nothing in.

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>>31571144
And have your house raided and pupper iced.

>>31566236
The LDP isn't Liberal, they're Capital Libertarians.

What anon was asking for was a Classical Liberal party and/or a Social Libertarian party.

>>31571605
#shootback

If you want a nigger for a neighbour, vote Liberal or Labour

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>>31566127
I'm 19, all my mates are centre-right. Most people I know that promote the greens or anything similar get laughed at and told to fuck off around here.. might just be the area.

I think the answer is to firebomb Melbourne Metro area until there's nothing but scorched earth

The country needs to secede from the city.

>>31575186
Too true.

Fucking Hellbourne.

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Today I will remind them.

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>>31575186
like this?

>>31566321
>America had a much higher compliance rate with your assault weapons ban than we did.
Nah. It was, and remains, one in seven or eight.

>>31575262
yes

>>31575237
literally makes no sense

>>31575262
>t. Banana Bender.

>>31575306
Or rather that was your non compliance rate.

In the two decades prior to the NFA over 2.2 million SKS and SKK pattern rifles were imported into Australia - every man and his dog had one.
During the amnesty less than 200,000 were handed in.

During the amnesty gun shops were literally selling PVC tubes and end caps.

>>31575674
Most of the stuff handed in was old bolt actions because the keen game hunters wanted the cash to go out and buy a newer better gun.

>>31565638
>NZ might get Aussie laws

Since when? even our police gloat about how "good/effective/not the shit heap that is our nearest neighbours is" our Gun laws are

>>31575683
A lot of pump actions were handed in - you could buy a cheap Stirling for $30 second hand, scrub it to shit and hand it in as a poor condition Mossberg and make a few hundred dollars.

>>31565779
>e. Less restrictions for some, miniature Australian flags for others

>>31575735
Australians confirmed for Jews

>>31565857
It's ok, he set a heater to 18d which basically nullifies 18c in most cases

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>>31576279

>>31576303
tony is the cunt that banned import of the 7shot adler

>>31566164
No such thing exists because it's a contradiction you fucking socialist faggot. Left wing economics is directly opposed to freedom and prosperity.

If you truly believe a system involving taking a huge amount of the wealth individuals generate at gunpoint and spending it with reckless indifference on shit that doesn't work and gib-me-dats that get rorted out the arse makes sense, you clearly don't contribute much or have much of a stake in society. You sharpen up pretty fucking quick when it's your hard earned being pissed down the drain you fucking parasite.

>>31565779
>f

>More restrictions in all area's Bows and Arrows need to be registered, Slingshots become restricted.

>>31576664
>>>/pol/

>>31565669
t. Da orkz

>>31576664
>No such thing exists because it's a contradiction you fucking socialist faggot. Left wing economics is directly opposed to freedom and prosperity.
Social Libertarianism has had more success than Ancap directed Libertarianism.

>>31576695
Don't fucking joke, some Greenie cunt in Hellbourne or Pissbane was pushing for compound bows to be put on a firearms license.

>>31576864
Nsw. Dave shoebridge mp.

>>31577149
Ahhhhhhh, Shitney.

>>31563568
>What are we going to do to stop it.
Rebel. While you still can.

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Yeah I'm more or less expecting a clean up of the messy bits of the NFA, and little actual change aside from maybe setting in stone mag restrictions on levers.

Also for the bright-minded Ausfags among you, or just any Ausfags I guess, chuck me a message on Kik at MARPATcat and I'll add you to our cute little group

>>31577440
what does your group do

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>>31563568

>Lever action shotguns
WHOA THOSE ARE REALLY SCARY GLAD YOU GUYS ARE GETTING THEM OUT OF THE HANDS OF CRIMS AND CROOKS

No I lived in Melbourne for six years though, so my condolences.

>>31566485
this guy gets it

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>>31577739
>yfw the NFA and '96 buyback were set up by the arms industry to create a monopoly on bolt actions

>>31577506
Talk about whatever /k/ related shit we feel like mostly. Laws, politics, events, fitness, whatever. A couple of QLD guys have met up too. Most of us are over 18 and hasguns so that's pretty amazing for /k/ desu

>>31577929
might give it a cheeky look sometime

Are those circuit judges any good?

So what's the deal, Dundees? You about to get drilled even harder? Didn't think that was possible? I'd say move to Canada, since we've got lax immigration and decent gun laws, but we all know that's too much of a risk. So here's hoping you guys shit on their fee-fees and get to keep your scary tactical assault levers or whatever.

>>31579316
the commies can't wait to get their hands on our high capacity semi semi-auto depleted uranium shooting mass killer lever shotguns

>>31565960
Gun control is RACIS. ABOLISH NOW.

>>31563568
>My burgerland citizenship finally got approved 2 days ago after a 4 year wait.

Suck it, cunts. I'm out.

>>31580519
Good luck mate.
I'm waiting out this EU shit and if CZ doesn't get fucked I'm moving there.

>>31576294
Fuck man if you could make a few hundred bucks out of government stupidity, wouldn't you grab that chance with both hands?

>>31576294
Nah, but we're legally required to be cheeky cunts.

Gas the emus white uprising now

>>31585582
Country town I work in is on the tipping point of an outright race war.

>>31585886
Kalgoolie is that you?

>>31575053
Try that and i will shoot you cunt

>>31586316
Good luck sneaking it by your local LGBQT3.14 privledge checker cuckbourne

>>31586329
Sneaking what? I live 5km from the CBD and have a safe full of guns and so do a few of my neighbors, ur cucked cunt

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>>31564700

>>31586357
You can't honestly say Melbourne isn't the worst city in this whole country

>>31586435
Sydney
>pretentious and arrogant as fuck
Brisbane
>sun scorched drongo rednecks
Adelaide
>reaaalllyyy slooooow
>Perth
Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
>Hobart
Yeh not bad
Anywhere in the NT
>see Brisbane with less braincells

Face it Australia is fucked

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>>31564628
>You don't have cowboy shotguns in the states?

>>31586494
Perth and Brisbane are excellent compared to Melbourne or Sydney.

>>31586593
Sandgropper here
WA and QLD are both competing on who is worse
The answer is 'yes'

>>31586626
Salty greens voter detected

>>31586494
You left out Melbourne
> The dreams of tumblr realised

>>31586709
LDP
Both major parties are cunts
Greens are hippy cunts
SFP are hypocritical cunts
And no one else really matters

Simple fact is - WA is going broke, and I understand Qld isn't doing too hot either.

>>31586803
How fucking dumb are you?

>>31586831
Lel QLD
As of this week Labor has restarted asset sales despite the election promise being exactly the opposite

>>31586831
>WA going broke
Fuck this makes me so happy, the rest of Australia should have let the stupid cunts become a soverign state

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fuckin ASIO falseflag ops always taking our rights!!!

>>31586873
Not as blind as you are m8

>>31587010
Strewth you sound like a dinky-di aussie battler from the bush, I better listen to what you say.

Fuck of Wayne

>>31587194
Didn't imply anything of the sort. Just that Melbourne is a cancerous place.
But please resume enjoying your shit tier sport (afl) and mourning the loss of the storm in the grand final without looking at the amount of "asylum seekers" handing out Islamic materials and the BLM protest your city had despite that being an American issue

>>31586831
>doesn't mention one nation
Topkek salty greenscuck detected

>>31587250
Speaking of Melbourne wtf happened yesterday evening I was going home via Flinders Street Station and there's like a giant mob(?) at around 8:40 pm fucking around.

>>31587284
They were on a bull search. Popular Melbourne tradition.

>>31575262
No, fuck Tasmania.

Those cucks actually vote for the greens.

>>31587432
Never forgetti Jackie Lambie

>>31563568
Fucking hell Australia.

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_Australia#2014_Sydney_hostage_crisis
>This legislative change also introduced measures to reduce illegal firearms in NSW including a ban on the possession of digital blueprints that enable firearms to be manufactured using 3D printers and milling machines for anyone without an appropriate licence.
>a ban on the possession of digital blueprints that enable firearms to be manufactured using 3D printers
>a ban on the possession of digital blueprints

Literal wrongthink.

>>31587432
but muh deer hunting

>>31587544
We have that up in Queensland desu

>>31587551
Vic Sambar hunting is best, cant fucking argue.

>>31587644
Jericho QLD

BUT I haven't hunted in Vic so I won't argue

>>31587688
I haven't hunted anywhere but Vic but yeah nah yeah. Have you fucking seen photos of a monster Sambar Stag? Cunts are like horses.

>>31587716
Christ. Wouldn't mind that for a change, there is deer up here but mostly I go buffalo and pigs to be honest, do you guys need a special license for macropods down there too?

>>31587736
Yeah can't (legally) shoot Roos without a culling permit, typically for land owners having their shit fucked by kangas, they really fuck shit up.

>>31587250
You forgot the apex gang who are Melbournes black cucks

These cunts arent touching my glorious Enfield 10 round mags, honestly, no will to live if I have to hand them history so they can press the shit in half.

If anyone here hasn't given this a sign yet, would be much appreciated if you take the time to.
http://www.parliament.qld.gov.au/work-of-assembly/petitions/e-petition?PetNum=2594

>>31586237
Kununurra
Boongs knocked off 17 fucking Toyota's and everyone innatown is looking to sort those cunts out.

>>31586831
Only because of fucking Barnett throwing money around like a lunatic.

>>31586911
We'd do alright if we didn't have to give you cunts like 60% of our tax.

>>31587532
Yeah, but that's only really Shitney and Hellbourne.
Pissbane is going that way though.

>>31587929
The sad thing is, half of those vehicles will be sitting in the middle of fucking nowhere abandoned once the fuel runs out, they literally drive stolen shit until its empty.

>>31587929
Fuuuck. boongs gonna boong though

Kalgoolie went full ferguson for a bit from what I saw, which was entertaining.

>>31587968
Pretty much. A few years ago a company I worked for had a Ute stolen off a trailer.
Broome cops found it two days later, tray full of roo blood and guts and in the cab, two young coons off their chops on sniff.

>>31587992
Yeah, from what I've heard cops went door to door and "talked down" firearms owners because they were worried about vigilantism.
But that's what happens when all your cops are transfers.

>>31588006
Transfers are the best though. The stories from the schoolies shuffles we get up here are amazing

>>31588018
Honestly, just visit the south west, B&S go nuts.

>>31588068
Been meaning to,
Hitting up the Roma races for the first time this year, I hear that goes off

>>31588091
Usually does.

I like hitting up coastal towns after a huge bender - don't know what it is about coastal girls, but they're cockhounds, the lot of them.

>>31588107
Fuck yeah, always do a weekend in Yeppoon If I'm heading north

Institute mandatory conscription

>>31588107
Sure thing buddy

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On a lighter note, who's going to the Melbourne gun show tomorrow? What times? Anyone wanna meet up?

Who /posting from the range/ here

>>31588406
Never been before, are they worth it for cheap shit? I want some cheap shit

>>31588415
My range doesn't get reception.
;~;

>>31588497
rip-off junk milsurp, the same collectible handguns year in, year out, but tonnes of knives and other shit. you can usually pick up an illegal slingshot

>>31588406
>(((Hellbourne)))

>>31588648
I honestly wish I could believe "illegal slingslot" was a joke

>>31589036
sadly not. I was in Utah earlier this year - OTF switchblades, machine guns... mein gott

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>>31589036
Ikr

I've got about 6. The local military store sells replacement bands so I'll never run out of scary assault slingshots

new thread when?

>>31579271
Average. Alfa ProJ do a much better 357/38spc. Trade off is no gas shields, but ive never had a problem

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>>31589117
Ill make one later. I have some updates to spill.

>>31589176
still cheaper than the Tec9 I saw on usedguns for $5000 or was it $10k? idk I think it was one of only 5 or so in Australia.

>>31589176
updates or new thread now pls

>>31589181
Fucking disgusting
>>31589193
About to play Coh2. It'll be tomorrow.

>>31589199
[reees externally]

>>31589199
Thread is up. Will occasionally bump throughout the day