/BRG/ Battle Rifle General:
Which is best battle rifle? Edition
>>31547332
That ar-10 looks like trash
/obnoxious cross dresser who knows nothing about guns gets fed attention/ general.
>>31547332
FAL is BEST raifu
>>31547795
It's not supposed to look pretty, sweetheart
>>31547868
quote from boyhurt poorfag show me the gats bros non poodle calibers only
>>31548216
obviously its an ar but it looks like rotten dog shit same with that m1a which is a shame because its easy to make them not look like shit
>>31548168
Objective truth. Faaru is best raifu.
right arm of the meme world
>>31548216
a slimline moe handguard and appropriate rear sight would make it look less retarded but w/e minor things
>>31548168
>>31548470
SCAR best raifu
>>31548456
>>31548640
Where'd you get the handguards bb?
>>31548738
Wtf mate stop posting this pic. There's nothing attractive about taking a shit.
>>31548738
Normal handguards with bipod
>>31548764
Its not about it being attractive, its about the FALs natural environment
>>31548764
you think that matters? attention is attention for these freaks
>>31548791
Goddamn stop Christ fagging. It would be different if he was making an effort to be cute but he just posting pictures of a grown man shitting. That's not be a freak that's just being lazy and stupid
>>31548791
>freak
>taped on cheek pad
my sides r gone bud thanks for da laff
>>31548852
Accept that you participate in degenerate mental illness general
I'm out
>>31548456
>quote from boyhurt poorfag show me the gats bros non poodle calibers only
>You don't want to give me attention!?!?!?! You must be poor!
Why don't you just fuck strangers on craigslist for that attention you desire so badily?
>>31548911
You're jealous cuz you're not a qt
>>31547332
G3 is for me!
>>31547332
Personally I'd trust my life to an M1A or an FAL. AR10s are meh to me and I don't care for how a G3 handles compared to its cousins.
>>31549089
The same bullet comes out the end of the barrel in comparable velocities I think you are doing what is called splitting hairs if you want to "trust your life" in some and not others.
I will give you better ergos/whatever features you like better if you go beyond just "trusting your life" to them
>>31549252
It's ergos for me. I shoot far better with an M1A than an FAL or AR10.
It's less that I don't trust them, and more that I trust myself to do better with an FAL or M1A. I have the most experience with the M1A, but I like the FAL just as much.
strongly considering ordering an Imbel FAL.
will it be alright to fire commercial, likely Russian steel case .308 through it?
>>31549089
>>31549296
M1A is worse tho, SCAR a best
>>31549089
I dunno about the M1A, I bent the op rod on mine
Other than the SCAR, I would have to choose the G3 platform as my no frills, gets shit done rifle. Sure the ergos are anything to write home about but that is the trade off for one of the most rugged and reliable systems ever put to the field other than the AK. The AR-10 system right now is a clusterfuck of every other company have a proprietary system for no reason but the FAL seems ok
>>31549306
lol
>>31549332
you trust your life to wobbly sheet metal?
>>31549874
Id rather trust it than a rifle that gets rekt by a bit of sand :^)
>>31549330
Never handled or even seen a SCAR17 IRL so I can't judge.
>>31549332
Fair enough. I've seen G3s malfunction and jam more often than M1As, but then again around here G3 owners tend to, well, abuse their rifles.
On the range trip where I took >>31549089 I saw a PTR extractor fail repeatedly. How did you bend the oprod?
>>31549874
Jesus christ.
>>31549895
>>31549930
>>31549930
>C308
Opinion discarded bb
>>31549874
I don't know about the history of that rifle but I do know that PTR's have the serial number stamped at the top of the rifle and not on the magwell
>>31549930
That is a century C308 at the end of a torture test
>>31550000
The first post you responded to was an FA91. He knows they're not PTRs, he just memes with them since he can't actually find videos like those that are actually PTRs. Just ignore him.
>>31549970
>>31549996
>>31550000
>>31549930
>>31550032
>tfw when despite these videos, a $600 C308 is more reliable than your $1500 DSA
>>31550032
>C308
Opinion discarded bb
>>31550048
>C308
Opinion discarded bb
>>31550048
good meme but my ptr is a pile of shit
>>31550078
Also even without knowing the history of the rifle, misfires like that are usually a sign of a trigger modification by someone who didn't know what they were doing, same as all the Remington's during their lawsuit
>>31550094
It was scientifically proven. :^)
>>31550110
Too bad a rifle isn't as reliable as the amount of emotional investment you put into it. Sorry I had to break the news to you.
>>31550117
>without knowing the history of the rifle
Literally first round ever chambered in that rifle by a civilian.
>>31550164
So link to the video?
>>31550149
>investment
when i hear that i love knowing tat you poorfags have to get a return on the purchase when you have to sell it to pay rent in the future lol
tfw no poorfag ptr bf to let shoot your good rifles but still tell them their sheet metal 'investment' is good and you like it for what it is even though it shoots like turd covered in burnt hair
>>31550202
Ok buddy, enjoy for 3k rifle that does what every other rifle in its class has done for 70 years
>>31550202
Tell that to the Belgians. Seeing you this butthurt is the best part of these threads.
>>31550223
Poorfag
>>31550293
>no scope
>magpul grip
>never a 2nd or 3rd mag
>every self owned SCAR on /k/ ever
Impulse buying things you can't really afford doesn't make you rich
>>31550331
Well not being able to buy on whim makes you poor, optic is a later investment, and have 7 mags :^)
>>31550331
not all rifles need a scope
also magpul stuff is the bomb
though I cant defend nogs not buying spare mags
What's the difference between PTR GI R and PTR FR?
>>31550394
GI-R has the G3-spec pencil barrel profile; FR has the heavier bull barrel. GI will also have the surplus semi-converted metal trigger frame.
>>31550394
The G.I is a G3 clone, the FR is a heavy barrelled target rifle and heavy as fuck
I have the SC which is shorter than the GI but the heavy barrel makes up the weight
>tfw you won't be able to buy FAL before election
> tfw you can't buy receivers because 20
I wish someone in Virginia would sell a FAL receiver on armslist.
Would buy a built one at gunshow but I don't know what to look for
At least I have grandpa's M1
Does anyone here have one of those trilux FAL scopes?
>>31550277
same
>>31550394
they are both shit
>>31549874
anyone willing to offer a real response to this? >>31549306
been looking through decade old forum posts finding nothing but conflicting answers.
FALs are nice. L1a1s especially.
>>31550745
FALs struggle with steel case sometimes.
>>31550807
thanks
what about .308 in general? should i only be using brass 7.62 NATO with a FAL?
>>31550839
.308 should be fine.
>>31550807
>>31550839
It's not so much the steel case as it is the shit-tier quality control of Tulammo. Just don't buy that and you'll be fine.
>>31550932
I've seen a few have issues with monarch.
>>31550331
>>31547332
>carbine length gas 16" running real fucking nato
Oh god.
>>31550440
what optic is that?
>>31551188
You might notice the PSA rollmark
The FAL with a type 3 reciever and a Type I/II lower
The G3 clone
And a M14 with a mount and not even sakuya tier irony optics
>>31548933
Or pleased because he isn't doesn't have brain damage
>>31551276
that was the most offensive thing I saw out of the lineup though.
>>31551365
Im just saying that the poorfag battle rifle armory is consistent.
Reminder that the AR10 and M1A are crap unless you want a money sink
Reminder that PTR91 and FAL are best BR
>>31551446
AR 10, at its basic ($600 configuration) will be better than a PTR or FAL, objectively.
Hey guys, my form 1 got approved. Time to get my PTR engraved so I can make it an SBR.
>>31551481
Why take this to a professional when I can easily do it myself?
>>31551481
How short are you going?
>>31551478
>$600 AR10
>Good
This is 100% false
>>31551499
I know a guy who engraved a lower with a HF electropencil.
>>31547332
HK417 w/ 13" barrel. "Assaulter".
>>31551512
Better than a PTR or FAL, especially the poverty variants
>>31551511
I want to make an HK51 clone.
>>31551512
How'd I do?
>>31551446
Mah nigga.
God I need to get optics for all these rifles eventually.
>>31551523
Show me a $600 AR10 that comes with sights and isnt dogshit reliable
>>31551532
Paint over it /10
>>31551532
Is it deep enough
>>31551532
>>31551540
I'm way ahead of you.
>>31551556
Let's assume so.
>>31551695
Delet this
oh wait
>>31551730
Nice PeeTR
>>31551695
>>31551730
Smoothe.
>>31548640
Where did you get that cap?
>tfw that "i want the ptr to be garbage so badly" poster can't restrain himself from posting the same, memey, non-factual webms and images every thread.
Holy shit I can't post this thing right side up to save my fucking life
>>31551765
Because your logic is backwards
>>31551446
>>31551512
Good taste. I'm jealous of that mag.
>>31551750
Fuck it, rotating it isn't fixing my problem.
Send me the bill for the broken necks. Heres some pepes as compensation in the meantime.
>>31551765
You used a cheapo mount meant for an AR on a PTR
Use mediocre 1" tube scopes
You compound this by purchasing a mount for 30mm scopes and using reducing rings
You delete two posts, cant rotate a fucking picture
Complain about others
and want to be taken seriously?
>>31551773
how
>>31551785
If you drop me an email I will hook you up with a source.
>>31550202
>calling others poorfags
>only has a shit painted FAL
please.
>>31551809
He has a SCAR, M1A and PTR as well
Usually I dislike shotguns but I dig yours. Makes me think of some 1970s swat team shit
>>31551499
>Westway Towing
You ever get the old skinny dude? I had him haul one of my 180D excavators and he nearly slid off his trailer. He said he shit his pants.
>>31551809
>only has shitty milsurp and slavshit
Might want to reconsider your definition of poor
>>31551803
[email protected]
>>31551809
>day 870 stock
Are they as shitty as people say? I been wanting to get one for my 870 just because they look cool.
>>31551789
Wait, so are you saying my scope is not being held correctly to my rifle?
Funny, last 12 times ive shot the thing my apparently nigger-rigged scope has done just fine.
LMTboy checking in. All dicks to forward thrusters.
>>31551890
Im saying you went with whatever was in stock at cabelas and under $100
Im saying that you go for the budget "good enough solution" and that says a lot about you as a person
>>31551906
How much was it babe?
>>31551931
That I'm budget minded?
I don't make a lot of money, anon. If you're looking for flaws, thats what you'll find. I can't just buy everything I want and pay whatever everyone asks. I have to pick and plan and make stuff work for as little as possible so I can still live comfortably.
Is a FAL an okay first gun purchase?
>>31551890
How do AKfags deal with not having spare parts commonly available?
You have to know you will need some eventually.
>>31551227
Weaver Qwik-Point
>>31551971
Yes.
>>31551969
Its not just that your on a budget.
Its that your impulsive and on a budget.
>>31551991
I feel like impulsive and on a budget don't really go hand in hand when it comes to describing someone. But keep doing your thing psycho-analysis anon, and Ill keep buying what I want when I can afford to.
>>31551976
Buy another rifle. Can't speak for other AKfags around, but I know I don't consider spare parts an issue like a lot of AR owners do. Maybe that speaks to the longevity of the rifle. I dunno.
>>31551864
Sent ;)
>>31551971
Very good, just know how much ammo costs before you buy it
>ptr is love
>>31552043
yeah but what if you have a special snowflake Vepr in 54R like that guy?
>>31551800
Cuz
>>31552022
>bought PTR
Very definition of POOR IMPULSE CONTROL.
>>31552022
You didnt try to look at what would be strongest/lightest/whatever mount.
You just walked into cabelas, or saw a sale on a pepr.
You didnt scour the snipers hide PX or other sites where people sell used optics looking for a great deal
you just walked into cabelas, or saw a sale on a cheapo leupy
Thats what I mean by impulsive and cheap.
You bought shit that kind of works, call it good enough, and are glad you dont need to fire up that fourth synapse.
>>31551937
2.3k for rifle.
300 for stock and heavy buffer.
200 for the sights.
100 for the brake.
1 for the paper face I put on it before taking it to bed.
>>31552044
>>31551987
Yeah, I've heard about a dollar per round. But I'll have a pretty good job within the year. My buddy recommended me an M4 or AK for a first gun. I respect his opinion, but I'm just pretty enamored with the FAL. I'm sure I could resell it for a not bad price if I don't like it for some odd reason.
>>31552047
Can't tell if poor or not
>>31552044
Cool, thanks.
>>31552105
>Can't tell
Why do blind people even bother to browse imageboards?
>basic-bitch AR with no optic
>cheapest-possible battle rifle with cuckazine
>>31550472
Yes. .
>>31552168
>basic bitcn ar15
Thanks for showing everyone here how retarded you are. Do you even know what rollmark that is?
>>31552168
It is a long stroke mousegun, not quite basic bitch, but lolpiston
>>31552047
>PWS and PTR
Nice. I like their rails at least. Never tried their actual ARs.
>>31551789
Yeah its called modernization, no need to have a hensoldt on a claw mount from the 80's
>>31552325
>he said, about a rifle designed in 1957
Haters gonna hate.
>>31552297
Their ARs are legit. I've shot their diablo multiple times and it's a blast. I've got nothing but good things to say about my 16inch in that pic, trigger is sex and the absence of carrier tilt is tits.
>>31552361
So was the AR but that never stopped anyone
>>31549306
Idk what people mean by fal can't fire steel cased, mine does but I have to turn the gas 1 short of max
>>31552383
I bet it's nice. I'd love to try one sometime but I've never seen any locally.
>>31552365
> Goatfucked wooden stock.
> Swells in minor humidity causing jams and shifting zero as much as 34 MOA
> Big fuckoff hole where fire selector used to be, perfect for letting dirt into trigger.
> Exposed action, not even good enough for ww1.
> Shit tier shift-a-zero handguard.
> Pinned magazine, no bayo lug, muzzle brake.
>Obviously California cancer.
> Cringy stock carving with some retard sticker.
I'd tell you to stick that gun in your mouth and blow your brains out but:
1) You're obviously too stupid to pull that off.
2) That POS would probably malfunction.
3) If it did work it's still not accurate enough to hit a target even with the muzzle pressed against it.
So I don't really know what to do for you. I guess enjoy living in shit and being retarded and unarmed. Hopefully someone puts you out of your misery eventually.
when you want a .308, and an AK accept no substitute
>>31552626
That scope setup is a hot mess. You know the dovetail is there for a reason right?
Also is it a Saiga or an M77? It's so bubba fucked I can't even tell.
>>31552672
the current optic is a stopgap until I decide on an permanent optic, it is a Saiga, and you really need to learn what bubba actually means (hint magpul stocks are not bubba, maybe tacticool but far from bubba). More to the point that "hot mess" of a scope setup holds 1.5 MOA at 100m
>>31552185
Noice
>>31550164
That's BS. It was a loaner that century sent him for review, that also was used for demos before hand, that was also used in a review video before that follow up video.
is 12 gauge more affordable than 308 to shoot?
>>31551765
dude you cant even rotate a picture let alone have a good 308 set up
this picture >>31550110 is 100% you
>>31551809
that color fill was a mistake on that ptr and lol at that slavshit duder lol
post the real nato galil though thats the only gun you got there thats worthy of the thread rebar the rest
>>31551890
>Funny, last 12 times ive shot the thing
how bad did you have to budget out EBT to afford to shoot half a box of ammo?
>>31551906
those rail covers are uggo
>>31551971
the best
>>31552047
ew is all i can saw
>>31552090
>dollar per round
go with 60 cents after tax or shipping for plinking ammo
>>31552626
except the substitute of a good rifle
>>31553718
yes if all you are concerned about is bullits leaving the barrel
>>31554421
now a flip
Should I be upset that I missed out on the Imbel receiver group buy?
I just put an order in for a PTR91 GI-R, first gun too, any recommendations on ammo and maintenance supplies?
>>31551276
What is that supposed to be?
Hello. I am new to the internet and 4chan and I would like to know where I can create a username and upload one of those cute profile pics. I realize that this can probably be answered in a short, one sentence response so I will also add a secondary topic for us to talk about later; I just added this hot bitch from my school and her tits are fine as fuck. I think she kind of looks like the pornstar, Sophie Dee. Apparently she also does cocaine and a wide variety of other drugs... I don't do those myself, but would it be a good idea to buy them and use them as a sort of barter-exchange for sexual encounters? Here is a pic of her I'll upload to the internet right now :D
>>31554427
Tight bod m8. Have you became un fat?
>>31554534
I use Hirtenberger (Austrian) surplus and ZQI M80 for blasting ammo. Get a .30 cal boresnake, a .20-ga bore brush for the chamber flutes and a couple nylon bottle brushes from the hardware store for cleaning out the inside of the receiver. Q-tips work best for getting inside the trunnion, which is where the most hard-to-reach crap is.
>>31554581
Goddamn that mascara is clumpy as fuck. Makes my eyes water just looking at it. Nice tits though. They got about 2-3 more years before they are full pancake though.
>>31554427
Cute skirt!
My trap bf has one exactly like that one.
>>31547332
If the price was right, I would say the HCAR but it's hard to beat the G3 or an AR-10.
>>31550164
Lol someone saved it
lol @ hate for m1a. some of its warranted, some of its exaggerated.
i have an old loaded m1a with all usgi parts, its reliable as fuck until you put the suppressor on it. its also awkardly heavy. its much more accurate than a fal/ptr out of the box. still, i dont think its as good of a fighting rifle. the OP has a fucked off springfield mount on his, and i literally used mine as a target one day after it kept shooting loose.
FAL is legit. My shooting buddy has two of them, one brazilian and one austrian, and they both shoot really well. trigger sucks tho, its super heavy.
I also have an oracle hbar 308, havent shot it yet. quality seems pretty decent. it is a dpms tho, so we'll see. i bought it on impulse because of the election.
>>31557230
M14 is fine with everything as it was intended. But shit advances, it cannot.
Jard makes a match FAL trigger
DPMS .308 are better than the .223 guns, though they are still towards the bottom of the pile.
>>31551890
is this the saiga 308?
THE BEST
>>31552512
wew
>>31558722
No HB bipod....
>>31558478
the m14 can, but it just makes it heavier and pushes it into SCAR cost territory.
it definitely is, but i wanted it more for the pattern than anything else.
what handguard is this?
>>31559913
But the scar is always the better option
>>31560675
always >>31550331
So what's the big advantage the SCAR has over the FAL, G3, and M14?
The only one I consistently see having advantage over all three is that it's a shitload lighter, which probably makes weight-conscious SFs much more comfortable taking a 7.62 realfuckingNATO chambered rifle with them.
>>31560797
from what ive gathered
>lighter
>lighter FELT recoil, though it fucks up poor fag optics
>accurate, 1 moa i think?
>reliable
>durable as fuck
from what ive seen there's nothing revolutionary about the scar, its just straight up better than everything. it has all the pros of the other battle rifles with none of the cons
as far as i know anyways, seems like a great gun to me desu. if i could afford one, id get it
>>31560797
Weight and ergo's, I would have listed recoil but a pws conpensator can be bought for 100 bucks and installed on any of the other rifles
But other than that I would say that the M1A is not up to par with the original M14's. PTR and DSA have come very close to almost identical FAL's and G3's
>>31560708
U
>>31560853
What optic is that?
>>31560853
Jesus Christ man, I would honestly have more respect for you if you said that you like shooting with irons instead of quickly putting on the cheapest made in china scope you had laying around
>>31547332
Just bought a m1a for $1,100 & 41 mixed g3/ cetme mags for $80. 2 cetme 8 steel & the rest aluminium. How did i do?
>>31560880
>>31560881
>not living for memes
>>31552512
i was gonna reply and say exactly why most if not all of the things you said are wrong. but u so mad i doesn't matter.
>M14 a good raifu
>>31560840
SCAR has lower recoil, you can get AR10s with lower felt recoil because of different gas action lengths, see the MAMS equipped rifle length gas SR25 line. Spreads recoil out over a longer period of time, and it weighs more.
Buts it's really the perfect storm of firearms designs, but little to nothing outright new.
>>31560852
Your not going to get the massive bcg on other rifles soaking up recoil on other rifles
>>31554935
no just better at angles
>>31555583
lewd
>>31560797
better in every way
>>31560880
Like like a cheapo AIMsports 2.5-10X40 scope
https://www.amazon.com/Sports-2-5-10X40-Scope-Sunshade-Mil-Dot/dp/B0052G6I5I
>>31561192
>Almost cheap enough for memeing
As someone who just bought a $160 Glock trigger shoe, I can appreciate buying parts to gather (You)s, I think sakuya did a better job for that
>But anon is still gathering (You)s
Might have to reconsider my position
>>31561308
That is also one without the fancy ass "QD lever" so it might be even cheaper.
>>31549874
>repeatedly smashed a FAL into the ground in an autistic rage after not getting tendies
>THEY'RE NOT RELIABLE
>>31561477
Laser model under $50
Okay, full meme status
I approve
https://www.amazon.com/Sports-2-5-10X40-Scope-Green-Laser/dp/B00551H764
I like FALs
>>31547332
what can you tell me about M14 pattern rifles? which manufacturers should I avoid, which ones are worth looking at, what gives the most bang for your buck.
it must be in a Cali legal configuration
>>31562032
>Cali legal
Check to see if you can work the trigger when the muzzle is in you're mouth.
>>31562053
care to contribute something more helpful?
Did i just miss out on a nice fun?
http://www.gunbroker.com/item/587604944
tell me how upset to be
>>31562032
It will cost less to move to a free state than it will for a quality m14
>>31562108
>a shit rifle made by monkies
Nah you didn't miss out on any thing
>>31562123
that's not an option at the moment, besides I'm doing what I can to fight the tyrannical laws our overlords have placed on us while I'm staying here to make it a better place. the least you people could do is help answer a few questions in the mean time
>>31562149
Fine, what's your budget?
>>31562157
fairly high, total expenses can exceed $4000 but not by much. It doesn't even have to be an M14 so long as it's a rifle that can be used for precision shooting and home defense. the latter condition is somewhat more important though
>>31562205
>.308 HD
RIP in peace ears
>>31562205
SCAR 17 is the best choice if you have that budget senpai
>>31562233
that's actually on the table right now but I'm considering other alternatives as well
>>31562205
http://www.lrbarms.com/standardm14rifles.html
>>31562229
my ears can share a coffin with the jackass that tries to break into my house, I'm going with .308 because if I shoot it I want to be sure it's dead
>>31562269
I've seen this before but how do you get a cheek weld?
>>31562270
Hope you don't have kids or neighbors
>>31562229
>>31562270
>.308 HD
RIP in peace neighbors
>>31562270
Just understand the ballistics of .308. Be sure you know where that bullet is going when it leaves your house
>>31562282
>>31562282
>no 16 inch barrel
Amateurs
>>31562281
>>31562282
not a concern
>>31562307
>16 inch barrel
Nah, I have other stuff for that.
>>31562318
Fair enough.
>>31562306
I don't think that's going to be a problem, the majority of my house is surrounded by brick wall
>>31562269
what would be involved in getting a SCAR 17 over here? does it need to be shipped disassembled? is the FFL going to give me shit if it isn't?
>>31562205
>>31562270
>>31562339
Stop being a faggot and get a shotgun for HD, and a battle rifle for shit/meme posting on /k/
>>31562407
no, I like .308 and don't want to be limited to 4 rounds, help or fuck off
>>31562434
I am helping fuckwit, you're less likely to look like an evil man with a military-style assault weapon and will more than likely take out your target rather than with a pinned 10 rd mag
>>31562434
Thumbhole stocks aren't really allowed in CA right?
>>31562407
>>31562434
Suppressed 10mm pistol caliber carbine or SMG.
You're welcome.
18 or 20 inch faaru?
>>31562491
Depends on caliber, doesn't it? Not all battlerifus are going to be 308.
>>31562463
I don't care about appearances and so long as I do away with the pistol grip the mag won't have to be pinned, at least this is the case until I get it registered and unfuck it post January 1st
>>31562477
correct
>>31562489
suppressors in C.A are a no go
>>31562463
>you're less likely to look like an evil man with a military-style assault weapon
this tbqh. it is solid advice
If you shoot a home invader in California you will have to prove you aren't a murderer.
Get a non-black 20 gauge pump action with full stock with some #1 buck shot.
>>31562491
21 inch
>>31562489
>still preaching the pistol carbine meme
>>31562523
it may be solid advice but if I get dragged through the dirt and thrown in jail for my choices so be it, I won't let fear dictate my tastes
>>31562525
It's easier and cheaper to build a PCC with a pistol brace than it is to buy an SMG and tax stamp it.
>>31562518
Sucks to be you. Enjoy your hearing loss.
>>31562554
You aren't getting my meaning. The AR killed the PCC and the SMG.
>>31562572
5.56 is pants on head retarded from a PCC length barrel. I mean if you really want to get Gucci then go 300 memeout but I'd take a cheap, easy UMP built out of what is essentially an AR platform for CQB over a 556 AR any day.
>>31560924
Where'd you find an M1A for 1100?
anyways, what are some good semi auto .308s I can get that are legal here? (with or without modification)
>>31549874
That's not even a PTR, that's a Federal FA91. You can tell from the cast receiver.
>>31548216
You're right, but a 16" barrel AR-10 with carbine gas, MOE furniture and a fixed FSP with a carry handle is a shit build
Jesus christ this is the ugliest thing I've ever seen. Who would ever want this?
>>31562632
But a 5.56 or 300 memeout isnt a PCC Faggot
>>31562639
Local shop had a used one come in LNIB. Im not sure what model. I know it has a NM front sight & wood stock.
>>31562857
I'm not sure if you're retarded or we're just talking past each other.
A PCC with a 8 inch barrel is great. A 556 with an 8 inch barrel is dogshit. Both can be built, fundamentally, out of AR upper and lower style components. A 9mm, 10mm, or 45 AR style lower / upper build with a pistol brace is going to cost you vastly less than a real SMG and NFA bullshit.
This is why it's a highly legit HD option. Arguably better than a SBS, SBR, or full length S or R. That said, if your state wasn't bullshit, I'd say put a can and a real stock on it but you worth with what you've got.
>>31562632
>He doesn't know about mk262 mod 1 or 75gr hornady TAP
Dude, 10.5" barreled .223 guns with a can are about as good as good gets for HD
>>31562952
If your going to go with a handgun cartridge, you mind as well use a handgun for HD. Being able to manipulate the weapon and all of its controls with one hand is a thing. Especially since it should have a light on it.
And 10mm isn't even that good
>9x25 Dillion with light bullets can be though
>>31563077
First of all, that SCAR looks fucking great.
Second, I still think the OAL is too long vs what you could be using with a pistol caliber.
>>31563128
It might not be gods gift to handguns but from a 2 handed platform where magazine size and weight aren't necessarily issues, I don't really see a downside in going with a higher energy caliber.
>>31563167
>Kel Tec Sub 2K OAL: 29.5"
>AR stock extended, 16" barrel OAL : 34.5"
>>31563230
Go measure a 6.5" AR upper with a sig brace on it and get back to me.
>>31563249
That isn't a PCC
>>31563265
Ok, a pistol caliber AR platform. Call it whatever you want, it's still the right tool for the job.
>>31563286
No. 5.56 is.
>>31554544
Just a system to transfer rotational energy it to the lateral motion seen on the right
>>31563322
Werd
>>31563265
A PDW would make a better choice if not going for an intermediate cartridge
>>31563512
if full auto was legal (correction - standard and available to all consumers, unregulated) I would jump on the p90 so fast, maybe also kriss vektor
Finally get to join the battle Raifu club. Bought a Sig716 via private party that basically had no rounds through it.
Upgraded it with a PRS stock, Troy Claymore Brake and GG&G riser and bipod mount. Heavy motherfucker but feels incredibly solid. Can't wait to hit the range this weekend. Any other sigbros here?
>>31564804
And like an idiot forgot to attach the pic.
Is the bm-59 worth owning?
>>31549874
not a ptr you disingenuous fucktard. that was the garbo ass cast receiver abomination springfield was doing back in the day.
>>31549903
>Jesus christ.
see above post
>>31562011
same
>>31562307
ugo
>>31562689
>>31565094
dude does it matter its an hk klone lol
all hk are garbage loel
>>31560651
Vltor
https://www.vltor.com/shop/scar/casv-scar-scar-handguard/
Can anyone tell me the difference between an assault rifle and a battle rifle? Is it just the caliber?
>>31564807
Nice BR, welcome to the club
>>31565437
Battle rifles are chambered in a full powered rifle cartridge like 7.62x51 NATO.
Most "assault rifles" like your common AR15s and AK variants are chambered in intermediate cartridges like 5.56x45
>>31565412
>dude does it matter its an hk klone lol
>all hk are garbage loel
kill yourself gun noob
>>31565499
I take it barrel length is usually longer for BR's than AR's as well?
>>31565412
Could you show me how to field strip that FAL at nuggetfest?
>>31565530
Usually, but they don't have to be
>>31552947
get a fucking rs regulate mount you sperg.
>>31562952
>PCC
>Pistol Caliber Carbine
A 9mm AR or a Hi-point carbine is a PCC. A 5.56 is an SBR or "Pistol", idiot
>>31564807
That scope is mounted rather far back
>>31565658
>Reading comprehension
Your not too good at the english
>>31565437
>Can anyone tell me the difference between an assault rifle and a battle rifle?
It's been discussed before and usually ends up in some shitfest of an argument. Talking about the difference between ARs and BRs is like talking what makes ARs different from other rifles. It's all really arbitrary when you get down to it. The only real consensus that people seem to agree on is that BRs are generally a larger caliber usually around .30cal.
Fact is that what we typically call "battle rifles" (FAL, G3, etc) today were called assault rifles in the mid-20th Century. When warfare mentality switched to smaller caliber rounds, the "battle rifle" label was constructed to separate them from the new breed of assault rifles.
>>31565825
It's not that the bullet diameter is what makes it a BR cartridge. It's that it fires a "full power" cartridge. Assault rifles by definition use intermediate cartridges.
The rest of the "definition" is mostly as it was used by gun rag writers back in the day. The advent of the DMR and CQC .308 rifles have only muddied the waters.
>>31561165
Do you suck dicks?
>>31566255
Easy enough to Dr Frankenstein that shit up and make it live again.
>>31566266
some of you are alright, don't go to 4chan tomorrow
>>31566291
We shouldn't be on 4chan today
>>31548640
>>31548470
>>31548456
>Carry handles on FALs
Not true Rhodie
>>31565005
pls respond
>>31566525
Rhodesia didn't have cast receivers and shit barrels either.
>>31548640
Sort of off topic but I always wonder where people get big wall-flags like that. Is there any store specializing in them because when I look all I find is shady ebay auctions.
>>31565005
>>31568260
Its a better spaghetti version of the m14, due to the fact that they are fully autistic it might be a bit out of your price range
Rate my battle rifle.
>>31565723
Yeah I have horrible eyesight, -5 in each eye so I need both high powered optics and positioning them with my glasses has always been a pain. Getting them scrunched up near my glasses has been the only way to make the eye relief work properly for me.
>>31568314
Rhodesia is a shit barrel
>>31569291
I appreciate the attempt at a hybrid look, but there is just zero aesthetic appeal to it. The project was done with some if the worst battle rifles, and the bipod doesn't even have a proper spigot mount.
I give it 4/10 and only that high for the novelty of it.
>>31569451
I run nose to charging handle on ARs, so your setup is triggering.
If it works for you baby....
>>31562335
Where'd you cop that wide foreground with the bipod?
what scope/red dot or whatever for mini 14? want something that will look cool with the woodstock
What do you guys think of a Hakim and how much should I pay for one?
My LGS have one for $770. I feel its kinda over priced
>>31569806
Aye, it's always tricky to make it work well, especially on my bolt gun. I've whacked my lens agains the eyepiece once or twice when I wasn't shouldering it properly.
>>31569847
Wrong thread
>>31569850
Eww
>>31547332
>that .308 AR-15
Stop calling these ugly things AR-10s, they're just shit.
>>31569930
Nobody was calling them that tho...
>>31569832
I got the handguard from ebay and the bipod from robertrtg.
>>31549089
Fuck that's sexy
>>31562407
>original leather carry strap
My significantly melanin enriched acquaintance.
Mine arrived the other day and I'm enjoying it. Feels good after I put some leather treatment oil on it, because it was pretty damn dry.
>>31569909
Whats wrong with a Hakim?
>>31569930
Calm your tits.
It's been pointed out in this thread that armalite didn't make it, PSA did.
>>31569291
What the fuck is wrong with you?
>>31568365
thats just a 3x5 and ebay but you have to know what to look for when buying flags or you get thin poly shit not actual durable nylon
also its a real early 70s rhodie there bud
real deal
>>31569291
saved/10
>>31572210
nothing is wrong with him he didnt buy a ptr
>>31569291
Notasgoodasmine/10
>>31572335
Eww
>>31554447
Yes, you should because I got in on it
So I just skimmed through my PTR91's manual and the break in process they describe is ridiculous. Can anyone weigh in on how much of a fuck up I'd be if I skipped step one?
>>31572310
>tfw C308 btfo DSA FAL in reliability test
>>31573047
I just shot mine as much as I wanted. The break in process they describe is super overkill.
>.308
6.5 creedmoor or kys
>>31547332
shitposting with my favoite FAL
>>31573736
come back when you become relavent and not a meme
>>31572310
How many battle rifles do I have to own before I have to start crossdressing?
Is it more than 3, I hope it's at least 3...
>>31550331
>implying there is anything wrong with MagPul VFGs
>implying optics are a mandatory
>>31551987
what the fuck is that space age shit?
just how?
how the hell does that thing work?
that thing should be fucking destroyed we are playing with unknown forces here
>>31562279
you don't
MUH M1A
>>31547332
The SCAR 17 is the undisputed king of battle rifles.
>>31573047
>Can anyone weigh in on how much of a fuck up I'd be if I skipped step one?
My break-in process lasted 20 rounds. 5 shots with a patch between each, then 5 shots and a patch, then 10 shots and done.
>>31573855
You're doing it wrong.
>>31573967
Just one.
>>31574152
>Rifle adopted by literally no one
>king of anything
FN should stick with making clones of more successful rifles instead of trying to push their latest plastic fish gun that will be a commercial failure
>>31574179
>itt poverty
>>31573047
>>31574179
Why is that even necessary, the whole "running a patch through it every x amount of rounds" to break it in?
I'm still unclear as to what that accomplishes.
>>31574215
Post rifle queerjew.
>>31574283
>I'm still unclear as to what that accomplishes.
It makes me feel better. I also sacrificed a chicken and read my raifu's fortune in it's bones; threw corrosive salts over my left shoulder and took down all the mirrors in the house.
>>31574297
Don't be responding to MY (You)s.
>>31574283
Depends which variant of the PTR you have. If you have a rifle with a heavy target barrel and you are anal about every possible fraction of MOA then sure the break in will possibly help you
However if you are a normal and completely sane person who doesn't have mall ninja sniper fantasies then the brake in really doesn't matter at all as no shooting you do (or anyone else does to be honest) requires that level of OCD
>>31574297
too poor for the one I want so I won't settle on the poor option, fuck me for wanting a rifle that will last me longer than 10 years
>>31574350
Kek
>>31574179
I just shot 300rds through my PTR when I bought it, worked fine. Break in periods are for gays
>>31574383
it sucks being an engineering student in college, too much work load for a job and costs too much money for education
>>31574052
Your only half right
>>31574191
Your so buttmad that your not making any sense
>>31574383
>you will never save Estonian qts from being overrun by the Russian juggernaut
>>31574747
So many qts, so little time.
Why did they paint their Fals in that paint job during the bush war?
>>31574989
It's what they had
>>31574097
How do you like that optic?