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how many M1A1 abrams would it take to sink a Iowa class battleship

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how many M1A1 abrams would it take to sink a Iowa class battleship by firing their guns at it for 20 minutes?
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>>31526976
Is Iowa engaging in counter-battery fire?
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Depends if they hit the magazine.

~1m of RHA equivalent penetration will defeat the armor, and DU is pyrophoric, but what's it going to do when it gets there.
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>>31526976
At what range? Is the Iowa moving? Does the Iowa get to shoot back?
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do retards actually think an abrams can pen its armor
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>>31527254
Yes.

We know how much RHA a 120mm DU projectile will penetrate and we know how much armour the Iowa has.
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>>31526976
It's going to take a very large number of tanks much longer than 20 min to even have a possibility of sinking the Iowa. Keep in mind that an APFSDS round has a diameter of ~30mm.
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>>31527223
This, range and return fire are by far the most important factors
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Define sink. like the ship is underwater in 20 minutes or if the tanks all stop firing after 20 minutes the Iowa will eventually go under? It'd only take a few firing at different angles to damage it to the point where it'd sink eventually. If the goal is it have it underwater in 20 minutes you'd have to fire many thousands of shells.
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Can a MBT even fire at the right angle to cause flooding with a simple penetrator? Punching holes in it above water all day is not going to sink it, and even if you hit it below the water line you need to do so at an angle thats going to do more than simply open a single hole in a single compartment since even if the external compartments are totally flooded you could probably just counterflood the other side and stay afloat.
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>>31526976
A very large number because they won't be poking big holes
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>>31526976
All of them.
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at least 5
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>>31526976
Would probably be easier to bombard the Iowa with tanks being dropped on it from high altitude.
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>>31528684
Kek
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Couldn't they just fuck the bridge and guns up though? Wouldn't sink, but it might as well.
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Will the shells of a battleship penetrate modern ceramic armor meant to withstand missiles?
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in this case the tanks really need to hit the magazine. which they can easily, as the m829a3 can carry through more than enough steel to do so. assuming the gunners of 3 m1a1 abrams know where to shoot, as little as 10 minutes; otherwise, a battalion of saudi arabians in those same m1a1s will take like six hours to sink it.
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>>31527254
BB-fag, please. 100 mm ATGM for BMP-3 can penetrate 750 mm RHA equivalent after ERA.
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>>31529069
It wouldnt need to penetrate a tanks armor to destroy the tank. It wouldn't even need to hit the tank to destroy it, just land somewhere nearby.

>>31530663
At what range? The battleship will be 10 miles away, at a minimum, mind you.
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>>31530684
At 5.5km.
>The battleship will be 10 miles away
Not specified by the OP and utterly pointless in this particular thought experiment.
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>>31530729
Its pretty generous to say 10 miles honestly, the BB would probably be even further away in reality, but 10mils is plausible.

OP also didnt specify if the BB was shooting back.

But ok, lets remove as many variables as we can. Lets say an abandoned battleship is in a port somewhere with a hill overlooking it 2 KM away full of tanks.

How many tank 30mm holes distributed as favorably as possible would it take to cause the BB to sink from flooding within 20 minutes

The BB has no crew, no damage control, and no ammunition on board, nobody to click any switches or close anything that isnt automated, and the ship is in the state it would be if it were sitting in reserve waiting to be recommissioned or scrapped.

It should be a problem that can be calculated with a definite answer come to, but fuck if i know enough to do that.
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>>31530753
I'm making a lot of assumptions here, but:
>At 2000 m an M829 DU round is capable of penetrating 540 mm of RHA. (please keep in mind that this is a round used in the 1980s and modern 120mm DU rounds are much more effective.)
>The Belt Armour of the USS Iowa was 307 mm thick. The Bulk Heads were 287 mm thick
>An M1 Abrams can therefor penetrate the Belt, but not the bulkheads as well

>The USS Iowa has approximately 30 compartments on it's Starboard first platform ( which roughly sits at waterline)
>If the M1 Abrams fires 6 incredibly well aimed rounds per minute, it can hole every compartment on the ship's waterline in 5 minutes.
>The M1 Abrams can only carry 55 rounds, so theoretically it can hole the better part of every compartment on two decks

Assuming that every shot hits it's mark and that it's possible to penetrate the decks beneath water, I actually think it's possible to do it with one Abrams.
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