P64 vs. P83 Looking to add another surplus gun to my collection

>>31524770
Monitoring for this is my exact dilemma.

>>31524770
The P83 is much more pleasant to shoot, the P64 is better as a concealed carry gun.

Of course I ended up buying both because I couldn't decide.

Is a P83 in .380 a thing?

>>31524770
While I don't own either I had chance to shoot both at range several times and my opinion is following:
P64 is better for CC
P83 is better for range

>>31524976
9mm Makarov

>>31524770
get the p64, its the closest you can get to a ppk without paying over 1200 for an excellent quality one without the gay ass beavertail.

I dont see why people make doubleaction such a big deal. Just carry condition three, or pull the hammer back and shoot single action.

In my opinion, I think a person can shoot more accurately in single action mode then double action. My way of thinking is, I pull the gun from small of back, as i raise gun up, pull slide back to load chamber, then fire one handed or 2 if i have time. If I went for a double action shot, Id be more likely to miss due to the tension required to pull a 7+ pound trigger, as say in a sig 226.

>>31526688
>carry in condition three
you're wrong.

>>31526777
Thats just how I was trained to carry, and it works for me. Takes a second more to fire, the increase in accuracy with the SA vs DA is worth the extra second.

>>31526103
Yeah but do they make it in .380? I have seen makorovs in 380 before

>>31524976
why though

>>31527780
They do not.

>>31527780
Im dumb said this>>31528271 before i looked it up.

They indeed do make a P-83 in .380

Don't get a P64 get a Bulgarian mak. You won't have to change the spring.

>>31524770
I just played with my friends new 64.

I bought an lc9s pro instead for fear of a 20 lb da pull.

his was very reasonable with wolf Springs. prolly gonna buy one now

>>31524770
I would go with a p64. The spring swap is an absolute must, but it ends up being a nice small ccw. Plus, it looks much sexier than the p83