Is the M&P Shield 9(with or without safety) the best "all

Glock 26

~0.2" thicker than the shield but shorter in grip length. Holds more rounds and accepts higher cap mags.

P30SK

>>31522570
Or Glock 43

>>31522529
For the price it can't be beat, so it wins the best for your money however there are many better options out there if you're willing to spend $200-400+ more.

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>>31522529
FUCK YOU
I DID NOT FUCK UP BY PURCHASING A GLOCK 43 FOR CC
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>31522529

Yes.

>>31522570

Consider that .2" is 20% of the total width. It's also 10% heavier.

>>31522592

Out of the box worse than the M&P shield in every way.

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I'm so glad I didn't buy a Glock 43 like a guible retard faggot.

>>31522629
>gullible retard faggot
>more-wealthy-than-you gullible retard faggot
Fixed that for ya poorfag

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>>31522690

>>31522690
>glock
>symbol of wealth

That's real poverty-tier anon.

>>31522529
No, the best carry is extremely dependant on what you wear and where you live.

If I live in Maine and wear six foot thick coats every day, I can conceal something much more useable than say someone in Commiefornia wearing a tank-top and shorts can.

Plus, Who knows what kind of shit I might run into if I lived in say, the Rockies?

Fuckin' mountain lions and bears and shit, I'm gonna want more than 9mm.

>>31522629
I have no experience with the 43 and I had no plans on buying one, but what's wrong with it? Doesn't seem too over priced.

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>>31522821
No shit, if you're going into the wilderness of course you'd carry no less of a 4 inch 357 revolver

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>>31522865
>Desire to buy gp100 match champion intensifies

Must resist. My wallet can only take so much abuse

>>31522529
it was my EDC for years until I became unable to carry. I like it.

>>31522529
Yes.

Just do it.

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Shield is a great gun. Probably in the top 3 for a mainstream CCW. That's not saying other options are not also good. If your in the market go shoot one and see how it feels. Love mine.

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>>31522795
Well, you pay more for a Glock 43 than a shield, so if Glock is poverty-tier, wtf does that make the Shield? Peasant-tier? Scum-tier? Probably-can't-shoot-when-soaked-in-the-rain tier?

$400+? No; you can find better options at that price point.

For ≤$350? Absolutely. I picked my Shield up for $330 USD and haven't looked back. The gun looks and feels a bit cheap, but I'd be lying if it wasn't reliable.

my shield is a .40 but I still like it

>>31522570

This. OR an MP9C. I sure as fuck carry my 9c more than the shield.

I just got an M&P last month, my standard mag doesn't doesn't seem to slide in that easily, I don't really have to force it but I do have to give it a good shove to get it to click in.

None of my other pistols have this kind of issue, is it a defective mag or a common thing?

>>31523826
if you got a round in the mags do not go in easy at all you have to ram em in

>>31523933
Good to know, thank you

>>31523826

nah that's normal, just keep ramming them in and it'll get easier with time

you may also find the slide not going into battery all the way with new shields. When you load up a mag yank the slide back all the way then let it go.

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Don't fall for the Shield meme, it's a pleb-tier handgun with a shit trigger.

Walther PPS is the master race of concealed carry, sorry plebs.

>>31522821
They make the shield in 45 now

>>31522570
Why is it every video I see of the Glock 26 shows a malfunction in some way? Every video has comments like:

"Oh, he had limp wrists!"
"The ejector on the Glock 26 gen 4 was shit at first, the updated models are better!"
"The 33rd mag doesn't feed well into the 26, go get flush mags and be done with it!"

Meanwhile the trigger is the worst among striker-fired pistol triggers in its class.

>>31522529
No.

>>31524018
Ive only had a handful of malfunctions with my gen 3 glock 26 in the 2000 or so rounds I have shot through it.

Ive used everything from 115 gr and 147 gr handloads from bubba at the gun show to factory remington 115gr fmj to federal HST 124 gr without issue.

Maybe some guns have problems but mine doesnt. I don't even clean it that often either.

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>>31524003

lol no.

PPS is an example of a good pistol developed by one of the worst companies. Walther couldn't market free sex, and their support logistics are fucking abysmal, and jewing of magazine compatibility. Plus I had my PPS frame feed ramp rust because lol "no tennifer coated feed ramp, just untreated steel"

Shield or Glock 43

>>31524655
thanks for the hard work

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I feel genuinely bad for people who bought the shield before the 43 came out. I guess it would make a good throwaway?

>>31524006
so they make it in a less effective round than 9mm
wow thanks anon

>>31524655

Bruh, you can get factory Shield mags for $20 or less all day, every day on eBay.

Otherwise, great post fan.

>>31524731
Your b8 is bad.

>>31524731
Nigga plz.

Shield has been out for years now with all the issues ironed out. Plus Apex can unfuck the Shield trigger like they can unfuck Glock extractors.

Shield has the record along with being $100 cheaper, comes with novak steel sights, safety option, and S&W is Glock-tier on CS .

Shield is Coke and G43 is Pepsi.

>>31524815

Only if Pepsi costs 20% more than Coke.

>>31524815
If you compare the QC of S&W to Glock as a compliment, doesn't that just raise Glock onto an even higher pedastal?

Glock QC is unparalleled.

>>31522529

No. First time I shot mine right out of the box, the sight dot popped out (from what I hear it's not that uncommon). The trigger feels like shit too.

You also can't attach a light.

No thanks, I will stick with my g19. Can easily conceal it just as easy as my shield (appendix carry ftw), I get more rounds, better accuracy due to longer barrel and the front and back sight further apart, I can attach a light, millions of after market parts, I can also use a light.

You're an adult, you can make up your own choices, so pick what ever you want to carry.

>>31524662

>doesn't clean or take care of his gun
>blames the manufacturer

lol nogunz cuck

>>31522529

Oh look...this thread....again. Use the archive faggot. There is like two of these threads every day. Faggots like you that ruined /k/

>>31523424
Did you get a felony?

>>31522529
S&W definitely hit a home run with the Shield.

>>31524815
>Shield has been out for years now with all the issues ironed out

Just don't let it get rained on or the gun has a 80% of failing to fire.

>>31524926
No, its not. The Brass in your fucking face shit is real, and Glock has been ignoring issues for years. I've also had out of spec extractors on 2 new g19s, defective g26 recoil spring, and a g17 that would not eject correctly.

Their CS is really good at fixing issues, but their QC went down the minute they moved to MIM over investment casting for the extractor, striker, and locking block. Plus Gen4 issues, Phase III G19s, and finish issues as of late.

>>31524959

>Has to justify Walter didn't put any protection on the feed ramp (ie one of the most critical parts of any auto pistol) while they have done it on all the other pistols.

Not to mention all of their Zinc frame Airshit Firearms.

>>31525342

>Rain
>Same as dunking in water/sand/mud

>>31524744
Bruh you can buy a stolen glock 26 off trayvon behind the 7/11 for $20 that doesn't mean that all glock 26's are $20 all day every day

You can get a scoped k98 in an old man's estate sale for $100 if he doesn't know what it is, doesn't mean that's what they cost

>>31523725
Haha no. Neither the Glock nor the Shield are expensive, so to attempt to claim superiority via wealth is absolutely hilarious. Unless that extra 50 boners was a stretch for you, which again, is poverty-tier.

So nobody owns a lc9s pro? How's the quality? Is it better then the shield?

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>>31523731
this. I grabbed my Shield for $295 during a sale at a PX. I wasn't even looking at the Shield for my carry gun but I couldn't pass up that price. Haven't regretted it since and it's since had an addition of a Apex trigger kit and TFX sights while still coming out cheaper than it's competitors.

>>31525010
Lost both arms in a car accident.

>>31526909
Nugga, are you daft?

I'm talking about OEM Shield magazines for $20, not the actual firearm.

I actually really like the new compact ruger

>>31522529

M&P9c with an Apex trigger.

Barely longer grip than the shield (you can choose to have a pinky extension or not)

Barely thicker

More rounds per magazine

A rail for a light if you want to carry one for whatever reason.

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>>31529871
I eventually want to try this setup, compact frame with a full sized slide.

>>31522529
no the walther PPS is.

>>31525342
>implying

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4A_TbpHU1c&t=113s

>>31524003
>front cocking serrations
>calls other people's guns memes

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>>31524655
>mag extensions untested/untrusted
Not anymore.

If hardest thing is racking in the first round, I'm not all that dissuaded from purchasing Taran Tactical +3 baseplates and giving the gun a rack clip so that the longer "handle" sits more compactly in my waistband and carrying 9rds in civilization and 9+1 in the hood and middle of the million acre gamelands not far from me.

There are countless reviews of people giving their opinions on the extensions. Some are good, some needed fixing, but Taran Tactical is fairly up to speed now. Heard no complaints from Hyve baseplate owners either.

That makes one of our only 2 red spots disappear.

>ass trigger
Somehow, even as a G43 owner, I wonder if that's just a biased opinion on Shield.

>>31522529
i think so, OP.

>>31532798
>I need aftermarket to make my gun compete

>>31533147

The Shield is unequivocally better out of the box.

If you get a G43 and change the sights, mag cap and trigger it becomes better than the Shield. It also ends up costing about $200 more.

The G43 came to a saturated market late and brought absolutely nothing to the table to justify swapping from any other similarly designed firearm.

Walther PPS m2 is what I'm looking to get next.

>>31532118
I find my guns easier to cock when pulling from the front even without the serrations.

Preach brother.

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>>31522529
You're thinking of the Walther PPS Classic, friend.

>>31529727
Oh. Damn. That would have been the last thing i guessed. Sorry anon

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>>31522529
I sold my 43 for the shield. IMO, the 43 felt lighter, but I like the way the shield shoots better. Can't go wrong with either tho.

>>31529727
How the fuck do you type? Hunt and peck with your nose?

I carry my 9c more than my Shield but then I'm a tall guy and it's easy to conceal. Still like the Shield though as a pocket gun.

>>31537083
I carry the 9C also. Even as a shorter guy (5'7) I've never found it hard to conceal.

>>31537127
5'7 here too. I can conceal a Shield fairly well but I want to bump in size and get the 9C. Though at that size, I might move to DA/SA.

>>31522529
I like the ones I've handled. Will be my first handgun come July.
>Thanks Brady

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I have both, the glock 43 is much nicer.

Some things I don't like about the Shield
>slide lock cannot be used as a slide release reliably (I know it's better to go overhand but using the slide release has its place)
>to completely dissassemble, you have to drive out two roll pins with a mallet and punch
>striker plunger can't be accessed without removing the rear sight

Other than that, it's an incredibly soft shooting gun for its size and has a respectable amount of aftermarket.

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>>31522529
If you're poor maybe. If you're not, Walther PPS, glock 43, and glock 26.

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>>31533147
>Glock 43 not complete out the box
False.
If Grandpa /k/ can hit the gong with it, it's good to go.

Unless I get in the middle of a mudslime terror attack in the middle of the night away from civilization, 6rds with second mag for backup is fine. You want to pick on capacity, you may as well pick on every mofo carrying a revolver.

Not to mention night sights simply make it a bit easier to see sights at night. Bright white standard Glock sights are boring, not horrible.

But just because it works doesn't mean I don't want it to work better and carry more. My main goal was merely to get two completed +3 mags from Taran and rock all four mags on my person and in my bag.
>It's not a purse, it's a satchel. Indiana Jones wears one.

>>31537667
Not only that but all these single stack 9mm handguns have such small and light magazines, it's extremely easy to carry one in a back pocket and forget it's even there.

I always carry a spare 7 round magazine with my PPS, with the 6 round magazine in the gun. 14 rounds total is plenty for any situation short of SHTF.

>>31536736
AESTHETIC.

Where do I get one in that two tone?

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>>31537667
>carrying fmj's like a nigger
>gay weebshit
>shitty no name neoprene holster
>"bs if it's good enuff fur x it's good enuff 4 me addage"

Go play in traffic.

>>31537725
Hunt Armslist for months

What makes the shield better than the M&P Compact?

>>31537771
It's thinner. That's about it. The M&P Compact is basically the thickness of the fullsize but the slide and grip dimensions of the Shield.

>>31537694
>>31537667
>I want to handicap myself because comfort comes first before anything else

You two are fucking retarded

>>31534276
>presschecks when you can just pull back from the rear like a non-autist
>ever putting your hand over the front of a loaded handgun

>>31524003
PPS m2 is awesome but it is huge for a 6 round gun. With the 7 round mags it is approaching the size of a thin G19

>>31532118
Front cocking serrations should be mandatory on all handguns

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>>31522529

I don't think so; but then I hate both polymer and striker fire.

My vote is pic related CZ Rami BD.

>>31529644
So nobody gonna answer this? I'd like to know how it compares. Already have a glock 19 but wanna know whats a great single stack cc.

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>>31538078
No point in it when you can carry a P01.

>>31522690
Keep sucking on that $500 lemon.

>>31522529
No.

there are peers which are just all around better (walther PPS) and some which exceed its performance in many aspects (LCR for size and concealable curves, P30SK for capacity, XD-S 45 for power just to name a few)

If it's your cup of tea, feel free to pull the trigger, but it is by no means peerless.

>>31524959
No amount of religious gun cleaning can save bare steel from rust.

>>31537246
HK P2000SK, CZ 2075 rami BD. I chose the HK, but both are fine pistols.

>>31538477
I have a bare steel old ass knife, and to keep it from rusting I oil it on a monthly basis and keep it in a cardboard sleeve and box to absorb any moisture in the air.

Something you carry daily with untreated steel is going to rust, oil or not.

>>31538078
>>31538389

>P01

You got one anon?

I'm interested.

>>31538079
Goddamn so nobody out here owns a ruger lc9s pro? I'm thinking of getting it cuz of the size and the great trigger it has compare to glock, xds, and shield.

Does anyone have exp with it? I'm amazed nobody really talks about it here besides shield and glock 43

Does anyone know about the taurus pt111 g2. Is this a good for CCW?

>>31539440
I've got an XD-S. My best friend has an LC9S. Even after comparing the two, we both still stuck with our guns . I'ts all subjective. "Best gun" Go with what works, home skillet.

>>31539765
HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

>>31522529
Yes. And without a doubt for California.

t. calicuck

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>>31539916
My dad got a shield, my sister a lc9s and I got a XD-S. I had never shot the XD-S before I bought it but i had a full size XD and I love it. Out of the 3, I'd be fine carrying any of them though the XD the best imo. the ruger is a tad too small for me but i shoot well with it still. Mu gun cost a bit more than theirs but it also came with a hard case (not a cardboard box like the shield and lc9s) and a fiber optic front sight.

>>31540227
I'm saying cuz here in /k/ nobody really talks bout the lc9s pro . It's only only glock 43 or shild 9mm

>>31540426
Because its a hunk of garbage compared to a shield, glock 43, or xds

I got my 43 for cc, and because I wear slim fitting clothes.

I don't mind having only 6, if there's an active shooter I'm not going to be seeking him out for a firefight.

I don't hate on anyone else that wants more, but I personally am okay with it.

I still plan on getting a g17 for OC and in case of SHTF situations.

I like the motorcycle proverb applied to guns. Your first gun isn't your last. I have multiple guns for all different purposes.

>>31540455
lel it's not a hunk it's one of the best 9mm ccw's on the marke
>striker fire
>7+1
>now has clipdraw!
>decent dot sights

I believe at one point their was a recoil spring recall/replacement but that since has past.

>>31540546
I know this is said a lot, but i can honestly not tell if this entire post is a joke or not.

If you like Glocks, get a 43.

Otherwise, get the Shield.

>>31540546
advanced bait..... or is it?

>>31540570
I'm the original poster who asked bout the lc9s pro, I only sked cuz everybody is. Is talking bout the xds 9 or shield 9, butt yanks for your input tho anon.

>>31540593

No bait actually curious since posters only talked bout shield 9mm.

>>31538040
> I'm not smart enough to just use the same manua, of arms and have to follow a gimmicky awkward reach our pundits to press check and muzzles weep my had because that's the hot new fad all the youtube memesters are into

>>31522529
No. The PPS is. Weather it's better than the CZ RAMI is up for debate. I own and carry both and like the PPS better. The shield is mediocre compared to both in terms of everything.

>>31522529
No, the Shield .45 is.

>>31529727
Fucking pussy you could still pull the trigger with your toes

Is carrying a s&w 637 bad...i kinda feel left out of the auto club sometimes..is 5 shots of .38 + p enough /k/ or should i consider something new?

>>31542407
Depends what you consider enough. If you're just carrying for fun pretty much it doesn't really matter, just do what you like. If you want to be prepared for a serious possibility of being attacked by armed assailants, a semi would most definitely be better. The thing is, as an intimidation tool any gun does the job equally well. And chances are you won't need the benefits of semi in any real situation.

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>>31542456
I carry for protection im skinny and live in fl so its never cold enough to wear anything more then a t shirt a j frame conceals well on me and i figure if i ever really need to pull on someone it will be up close and over within less then 5 rounds seeing most thugs are not looking for a gunfight and run at the first sign of opposition

Anyone carry a Sig 938?

I'm planning to get one in a month.

Any complaints?
Are you ever worried about the hammer falling?

>>31541686
>touching your delicious feet to a dirty gun
>ever

They are good guns but I'd rather carry my Kahr PM9 all day every day.

>>31522529
Eeeeh not the best but the best value imo.

>>31543425
No complaints at all. Conceals well, go for it mang.

>>31532798
If there are only two manufacturers who have only just now more or less made something reliable, then it's not reliable enough to factor into a purchasing decision. And like >>31533147 says, you shouldn't be in the mindset of "I'll need to fix this immediately after buying it"

And have you ever shot a factory MP trigger with the split safety? Horrendous. I bought my Shield before the G42/3 came out, so in that time I bought the apex trigger, but I don't believe in buying guns with the expectation that you have to accept flaws that you find unacceptable enough to warrant replacing, so considering an MP having an out of box worse trigger than a Glock is something that should be considered

>>31523725
Glock is poorfag material, carry a sig p938 or a Range Officer Colt 1911 fuckboi

>>31522529
My vote goes to P938. Nothing conceals as well for me