Duterte to end wargames with the US http://www.aljazeera.co

Politicians get compared to Hitler all the time, but Duterte may be the first to compare himself to Hitler.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/sep/29/rodrigo-duterte-compares-drug-killings-hitler-says/

Does the US have enough of a military left to take on the Philippines?

>>31508311
He always says crazy shit.

>australian girl gets raped then murdered in the philipines
>jokes how he's angry that as the mayor he should have gotten her first
>refuses to apologize because it was a joke

The absolute madman

>>31508311
If he was white /pol/ would worship this man

Duterte has probably made secret deals with China.

>Philippines recognize island and ocean claims by China.
>Remove Burger military and political support
>buy arms from China.
>be a good little vassal like North Korea and Mongolia.

>>31508552
That actually makes no sense. It's like selling the cow to buy milk. If it was an actual deal, it should be the Phil getting the island and oceans with Chinese development and arms investment from China instead in return for kicking us out of the region.

I love how he's throwing his country into the dirt on the grounds of sheer personal machismo.

>>31508325

Please do not post on my board again.

>>31508353
Can't believe he survived a joke like that and still became president.

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>>31508576
>One of us, One of us...

>>31508580
That's the alpha personality of a strong man.

>>31508292
Goddamnit why does this shit have to happen now.
>3rd Gen half-Flip who visited Flipland for the first time recently
>Got to visit family and shit
>had a rather good time, even learned that there's some quasi-2A people over there (saw a lot of gun-related car stickers like Magpul and Remington)
>Want to visit again
>Duterte gets elected
>Now all this shit happens
>Now have to consider the real possibility that relations will deteriorate to the point where I can't even visit family
>Also have to consider possibility that this guy will flush decades of US-Flip relations down the toilet
>To kowtow to the same goddamn chinks that already have their hands all over the Filipino economy
Fuck my life.
>>31508325
Most likely, though I would hope not. I still have family over there.
>>31508552
Not sure how far he would go, the guy he appointed to be the envoy to China is Fidel Ramos, and he's a Korean war vet and still rather popular according to what I've heard. I think at least with the UN ruling in the Philippines favor he will try and concede a few things to the Chinese, but still claim Flip sovereignty over what's already there. While a lot of people voted for him, just handing over the Spratly's would be a huge no-no. As for buying arms, I already saw a couple Type 56 export variants in Manila being used by some security guards and beat cops (export variant in 5.56, not sure about the exact designation but I know it was some 56 variant).

>>31508580
>>31508596
>>31508353
Shit like this is somewhat common in Flipland, considering that he was mayor of Davao for so long it doesn't exactly surprise me that he's a rather blunt guy that pulls no punches. Still, what he's done and said so far is a bit unprecedented as far as Flip presidents go.
>>31508576
People were desperate, and he ran on the law and order/anti-corruption ticket. Most flips are absolutely dog-tired from all the crime so they voted for him. Its just that the additional stuff wasn't really brought to light until he started actually making decisions as the chief executive. Either way, the Philippines is in for one hell of a ride these next couple years.

>>31508577
whachoo gon do bout it

>>31508292
It's amazing how far confidence, violence, and an asshole attitude will sway a group/nation of normal people. Despite the fact he's fucking up his own island and the future of his people. Hope they enjoy their Chinese overlords.

I like how he just wear a polo shirt instead of a suit like other politicians

the kind of guy you could just a beer with

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>>31508641
>Shit like this is somewhat common in Flipland, considering that he was mayor of Davao for so long it doesn't exactly surprise me that he's a rather blunt guy that pulls no punches. Still, what he's done and said so far is a bit unprecedented as far as Flip presidents go.
Sounds like a certain soon to be president in the US.

>>31508685
>It's amazing how far confidence, violence, and an asshole attitude will sway a group/nation of normal people.

Almost sounds like a certain US presidential candidate...

Really makes you think

>>31508714
>HAHA OH MY GOD I'M TALKING ABOUT TRUMP BUT I'M USING METAPHORS OR SOMETHING, GOSH I'M SO CLEVER!

Need a fucking coup soon.

https://youtu.be/k1FEuRyu2rg?t=163

>>31508714
>Trump
>violent

funny, I don't remember him sanctioning any secret killings

>>31508711
Depends. Personality wise they may match up, but I'm not sure how they'll do diplomatically speaking. I try to browse flip newspapers from time to time and they're not exactly saying the nicest things about Trump. Which leads me to my next worry,
>Trump and Duterte clashing egos and further opening the rift between the countries
>Even more certain that I will never be able to visit again
Or not. Anything could happen.

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>Throwing off americuck ties and installed leaders for independence
Based. China will destroy them but at least they'll die free.

>>31508733
I'm not sure how the average Flip soldier feels about Duterte, but they'd need to get some high-ranking officers in on it if they were to mobilize the numbers necessary to stage a coup. The aftermath of such a coup, successful or otherwise, could lead to an increase in regional tension (that's already getting to the point where its damn near thick enough to cut with a knife).

>>31508737
He wants to deport illegals, that is violent and unconstitutional

>>31508747
As an Australian I feel like we should do the same

pine gap has gotta go

>>31508747
You don't have any prior knowledge of Chinese dealings in Flipland, do you?

Duerte is master politician, he successful plays the chinks and US and each other.

Now I wait for flip army to be filled with glorious type 56 or Norinco CQ.

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>>31508756

You attended the special classes as a lad, didn't you?

>>31508782
I already fucking explained,
>>31508620
Here. There's already a few Type-56s in-country, I'm guessing they're either old supplies for the NPA or were acquired under some circumstance at some recent point in time. Of the two rifles you mentioned, this is the only one I could feasibly see being bought en masse, probably in 5.56.
>Norinco CQ
Why? Even though relations are being put through the shitter Remington is still delivering an assload of M4s that were part of a pre-existing deal.

>Trump gets elected
>Duerte immediately becomes friend with the US
>Putin laughs behind the shadow
The kike reign is over.

>>31508756
>enforcing a law is unconstitutional
hmmm.... really, uh....
really makes you, uh...............
makes you think....................................

>>31508798
To be honest I never care about the CQ, if the flips can get type 56 then they already got the best deal already.
Don't think the chink will sell QBZ-03.

I hope those flips like the taste of chink boots.

That said. I'm entirely ok with this.
Let all those pacific countries work their shit out themselves.

No more world policing for US!

>>31508580
It's not like non-whites care about idiot white liberals being murdered
We'll learn that first hand when we turn into minorities like whites already are in a buncha places.

>>31508574
it makes sense if he is personally getting rich as fuck through kickbacks and bribery while doing it.

the chinese dont need the whole flip system to be weak, they just need to buy the leader and let politics take its course

>>31508756
You're dumb, gay, and your mom is an American while your dad is a border jumper.

>>31508417
/pol/ practically worships him already because muh degeneracy.

>>31508714
>really makes you think

ho ho ho, found the communist

>>31508574
The alternative is to keep the burgers and lose more territory to China.

>>31508756
get the fuck off my board, el faggot

>>31508836
Duterte hates the US because he's pretty sure they were behind a buncha bombings in the city he was mayor of

>>31508798
To be honest I never give shit about CQ.

Type 56 is at good as it can get.

>>31508756
>enforcing the law is illegal
>returning someone to their homeland is "violent"

>>31508835
>B-b-but white people should treat minorities better!
>Mm-maybe that will convince them to be nice to us!

>>31508836
>rich as fuck through kickbacks and bribery
This is more than likely what's happening, to some degree. Duterte is nominally supposed to be a democratic socialist, or something close to it (according to the political party he's a member of) but he doesn't act like it most of the time. As part of that I could at least anticipate some sort of move towards a detente with China, but given the history of Chinese merchants (plenty of rich "Filipinos" are Chinese who changed a portion of their names to sound more Filipino) in Flipland I wouldn't be surprised if there were connections being made at high levels. Duterte will talk the talk, but I personally believe he will stop somewhat short of completely severing ties with the US. I theorize that to some degree he's just trying to keep his country in some sort of middle ground. Possibly. Either way he's going to be walking a fine line in the next few years.

>>31508738
>100+ years of extremely pro-American culture and ties will all be overturned by one guy's political showboating
ok

>>31508881
Yea but the president of the US is a nig, and the phillipine diplomat is a fag jew

Obviously he's not going to go crazy but certainly he won't have any particular ties with the US government.

>>31508894
"American Culture" hasn't existed for decades

>>31508894
No, I'm the guy from above who's worried about the ties worsening and not being able to visit my family. Should've probably put more in my posts, but what I believe is that despite Duterte's posturing there will continue to be strong ties between the two countries for a number of reasons
>largest number of overseas Flips reside in the US (this could get messy if relations go south)
>Joint US/Flip liberation of Flipland during WW2 (old history at this point but having seen Corregidor and the US war cemetery in Manila among other things, I could still feel that to some degree there was a bond forged there that still wasn't broken)
>Flip culture tries in many aspects to copy/emulate American culture, not necessarily for the better but its already a thing (so many fucking huge malls over there, plus American pop culture references everywhere)
>Even if Duterte does open up arms trade with China/Russia, the bulk (if not all) of the Flip military's gear is American-based and there's no way that in the space of one presidency he'll be able to replace it all without creating a logistics nightmare bigger than the one that currently exists
Among other things.
>>31508895
>have any
There will still be some. He'll say things, but too much is at risk for him to sever ties completely. The future of relations will also depend on who becomes president here.

>>31508932
China is way closer to Flip than the US and they have a shitload of arms to unload, not to mention Russia.

They already have specific export models for country using NATO-gears.

>>31508943
>China is way closer to Flip
I assume you're talking geographically, but culturally no.
>shitload of arms
Yes, but there's still the issue of having to replace a shit ton of things already in service. Realistically speaking they might go the Thai route of mixing Chinese and western arms, but I don't see it going any further. Same with the Russians.

>>31508955
>I assume you're talking geographically, but culturally no.
Geographically, it's easier to unload arms from China and Russia than arms from the US.
>Yes, but there's still the issue of having to replace a shit ton of things already in service.
Flip arms are old as shit anyhow.

>>31508962
>Geographically
Can't argue there.
>Flip arms are old as shit
Which is why they were in the process of either overhauling them or buying new ones, I already mentioned the Remington Arms order that's still under way (not to mention current contracts with the South Koreans). As for the rest, I could see possible purchases of logistics vehicles and some armored stuff. Air and naval stuff might get touchy since I doubt the Chinese would want any competition in the area.

>>31508973
>Which is why they were in the process of either overhauling them or buying new ones, I already mentioned the Remington Arms order that's still under way (not to mention current contracts with the South Koreans).
You know they would be replaced quicker and sooner with the chinks, with type 56 or Norinco CQ.

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NWO gangs trying to steal all of their gold reserves!

>>31508836
This is surprising, he really doesn't come across that way. He seems like a crazy little man with rather extremist views, but tries to do everything for the good of his country.

>>31508990
>with Type 56 or Norinco CQ
This has already been addressed up here
>>31508798
Plus as I said, there's still about 50,000 plus Remington made M4s coming in. I will say that of the two the 56 is much more likely to be bought if indeed there is a large scale small arms purchase.
>>31508995
>steal all of their gold reserves
Spaniards already did that. And no, Yamashita's gold doesn't exist.

>>31509011
He knows the influence of the US is as much as cancerous as China, so the best deal is to play them against each other, and see which can offer you a better deal.

>>31509017
It's not been addressed, the chinks can flood the country with type 56 and CQ before Remington can even finish the contract.

>>31508711
Thank you for correcting the record.

Note that the other candidate has threatened war with Russia because Russian hackers exposed some dirty laundry of the Democrat party.

>>31508292
Wouldn't be surprised if the Chinese sponsored his election. They did it with the Indo president.

>>31509033
>before Remington can even finished
Jesus fucking christ THEY'RE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SHIPMENT. How many times must I repeat myself?
>Flood it with Type 56 and CQ
As I said above I could understand the 56 but there's no fucking reason for them to buy CQs, there's enough differences between them and the various ARs utilized by the Flip military that it wouldn't be feasible unless Flipland wanted to start buying ammo from the Chinese as well (which would depend on if Duterte wants to support more of Flipland's indigenous arms manufacturing, to my knowledge Flipland does produce its own ammo). Also despite all this talk it still yet to be seen how far Duterte will push towards the Chinese, and how much he would replace the current equipment of the Flip mliitary.

>>31508931
>"American Culture" hasn't existed for decades
The 80s, or possibly the first half of the 90s were the last time it was still genuinely fucking cool to be an American.

>>31509023
But that kind of tactic only works if the US needs the Philippines to preserve peace in the APAC region. Do you think we need to keep them on our side?

>>31509051
When will the 50000 remington AR come over to Flip?

Because with contract signed, the chinks need like 7 days for the entire flip army to have 56 or CQ.

>>31508757
Why don't you fuck off than cunt.

Keep the anglo-sphere stronk.

>>31509060
Absolutely, I mean Pinoyland is the step for US to control South East Asia, while Japan is for East Asia.

If pinoys and japs betray the US then the US influence in the pacific is finished, they have to go back to Hawaii.

>>31509061
>chinks need like 7 days
But they haven't even drawn up a contract yet, Duterte's simply mentioned that he could move in that direction and that he may start in the near-future. These things don't move that fast, especially not in Flipland. Won't even mention how many times the Flip military has tried to buy something and gone through so many options/wasted millions before deciding on something. It makes our acquisition process in the states look somewhat sane by comparison.
>>31509058
I still try damnit. I don't care how much the previous generations have fucked our world image, but I won't give up on us yet. Its not too late to unfuck things.

>>31509073
>pinoys
Despite the current situation, please read
>>31508932
Even if ties break down we've made enough of an impression that it will never move to outright war unless some insane shit happens.
>Japs
You're joking right? I could see a very slight chance where they order us out, but they still hate the shit out of the Chinese and vice versa.

>>31509079
Duerte has killed like hundreds of drug dealers in matter of months, and now in a flash, he shuts down US-Flip joint exercises.

He got the speed down.

>>31509084
No need for outright war, just need to stay neutral and not having a pro-US position.

>>31509086
>in a flash
This has been happening since he first assumed presidency. While the speed with which he has been doing things is definitely noticeable, it takes time for arms procurement to go through. Again, look at how long it has taken the Flip military to get new stuff.
>>31509093
More understandable, though there will always be a connection of some sort.

>>31509073
What about S. Korea? Granted, they have to keep N. Korea at bay, but they're one of the more powerful militaries in the world.

>>31509106
Nope, his anti-US stance was only a thing last month when Obama tried to nag him about the innocent drug dealers.

He went from calling Obama a bitch and now cuts US wargames.

I say things are progressing very fast.

>>31509109
S. Korea is landlocked and in a fight, they would their shit tore by chinks and north korea.

Japan is like UK, S. Korea is like France.

>>31509116
Then we shall see where it heads. Either way, as above, I just don't want to see relations deteriorate to the point where I can't see my family any more.

>>31509122
>Get their shit tore by Chinks and N Korea
If the Chinks intervene, possibly. Otherwise the ROK would roflstomp the shit out of the Norks.

>>31509093
>just need to stay neutral

That essentually means the flips are on their own geopolitically against china.

Expect the Sierra Madre to be abandoned by the end of the year, chinese coast guard and major fishing in flip waters the middle of next, and plans for chinese rigs in flip water by the end of next, all uncontested. Duuurte cant fight the PLAN on his own, and is in bed with the chinese anyways it seems.

The issue here is will the Filipinos stand by as it happens. The madre is a huge point of national pride.

>>31509073
>If pinoys and japs betray the US then the US influence in the pacific is finished, they have to go back to Hawaii.

Japs wont leave US influence for chinese. Thats some retarded ass shit. Nor will korea.

Furthermore, even if that chinese pipedream happens, FoN missions would still occur regardless. International water is still international.

>>31509145
Japs might leave the US influence for Russia.

>>31509145
Japan will leave for China or Russia if Herr Trump is elected.

>>31509153
They will leave US for sure if Clinton is elected.

Japs do not like Obama or Clinton because these nigs will never defend Japan.

>>31509150
>>31509153
>japs leaving the us for russia

Slightly less retarded then china, but still full fucking retard. They have an ongoing and longstanding territorial issue with russia, the populace is more pro american than pro russian, the president is extremely pro american, the military has strong ties with america and MIC wise both countries rely upon each other, but japan relys upon the US more.

>>31509150
Wat?

>>31509171
Its a completely non sensible crackpot idea because japan and russia are trying to hash out the territory dispute that has been going on seice wwii

>>31509170
>>31509171
Shinzo Abe has been courting Putin lately.

I know I have been repeating myself, but Abe has been seeing more Putin than he sees Obama, and Putin will visit Japan this year.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ganFR7HYt24

In a pinch, Russia will be more help to Japan than the US in case China ever starts shit.

>>31509122
Hah, China will NOT be on the side of N. Korea. It's been so many years that S. Korea isn't big on reunification - the only way war will break out is if N. Korea starts shit.

>>31509165
Nope

Clinton talked to Abe at the UN recently, and he urged her to sign TPP if she wins (which everyone knows she will)

>>31509188
At the moment, seems kinda hard for Clinton to win.

But it's possible Abe is playing both sides.

The man is now investing in Russian economy despite the sanctions.

>>31509188
i didnt think the brexit would happen, im not ready to write off trump yet

>>31509187
My point is that in case China start shit, S. Korea wouldn't matter either ways.

Norks would never start shit by themselves.

>>31509194
>At the moment, seems kinda hard for Clinton to win.

In what universe?

The most recent debate shows how much of a command of the issues she has.

Not only that, but demographics in the US overwhelmingly trend in favor of Democrats. All she has to do is maximize turnout, and she wins.

>>31509204
As shown by Sanders, the democrats are literally too stupid and inactive to vote.

All it takes is a active and motivated republican voter base.

>The most recent debate shows how much of a command of the issues she has.
Wait for the next one.

>>31509199
The original point was that S. Korea as an ally would be able to keep peace in the region.

>>31509184
>Shinzo Abe has been courting Putin lately.

Trying to work out a territory dispute is not "courting", you crazy nigger.

>In a pinch, Russia will be more help to Japan than the US in case China ever starts shit.

Not the thousands of US marines on the islands yourself or dozens of USN ships.

Not to meantion the abysmal pacific russian fleet.

Its still early, but that last comment might be the dumbest thing i will ever read today.

>>31509246
He's talking about directly investing in Russia, that goes far more than the dispute.
>Not the thousands of US marines on the islands yourself or dozens of USN ships.
But the hundred thousand of slavs that will deter China from attacking Japan.

>>31509236
And I'm saying that's wrong, because if China starts shit, S. Korea cannot contain it.

>>31509290
>He's talking about directly investing in Russia

As a perk of getting back clay, and something russia really wants. Its not free, thus its not "courting".

The russian/japan negotiations has japan having an immense upper hand.

>But the hundred thousand of slavs that will deter China from attacking Japan.

Yet the tens of thousand US forces actually in theator wont.

Japan wants its clay back, thats it.

>>31509299
If china starts shit, they have to hit the US tripwire force in korea. Not to meantion the chinese forces operating en mass in best korea will alert every intellegence agency in the world.

>>31509311
>As a perk of getting back clay, and something russia really wants. Its not free, thus its not "courting".
Proof where Russia will give back to Japan its island?
>Yet the tens of thousand US forces actually in theator wont.
The only thing that the US can deter a China invasion is the magnificent US navy, the thousands marines, while cool, aren't worth hundred thousand slavs. Not to mention the mongolians and other eurasians.

>>31509318
I'm saying S. Korea will not hold, especially in case if Japan and Pinoy defect to Russia/China.

>>31509332
>Proof where Russia will give back to Japan its island?

Thats the entire point of all of this for abe.

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN11Y1AU

>, aren't worth hundred thousand slavs.

Your right. Being that the slavs are not in theator, they are worth FAR more.

>>31509348
It would be the US and south korea, fighting a defensive war. They would hold.

>>31509358
>Thats the entire point of all of this for abe.
Except this depends on Putin, and so far Putin has not even debated that point of giving back the island.
>Your right. Being that the slavs are not in theator, they are worth FAR more.
The slavs can easily support Japan though, as just they can easily invade it.

>>31509364
Without Japan and Pinoy's port, the US cannot provide enough supply for the south koreans to win against a chinese onslaught.

>>31509376
>Except this depends on Putin

Yes, hence the private talks.

If putin does not give up the islands, he can kiss the investment goodbye. Its what abe wants. If abe does not get it, or no signals of getting it, no sense in giving russia something for nothing.

>>31509376
>The slavs can easily support Japan though, as just they can easily invade it.

Jesus. The slavs dont have the logistical capability to invade japan.

>>31509122
It's a peninsula you mong

>>31508861
Even if that were true, he's head honcho now, so he could probably ask for some sort of "repayment" and not ditch one overlord and go begging for a completely new one, not knowing what they want exactly.

>>31509391
Guam for VLS reload, SEAREP for everything else.

PACCOM has a metric fuckton of assets to throw at the situation.

>>31509246
>In a pinch, Russia will be more help to Japan than the US in case China ever starts shit.

The US could sweep the PLA navy and air force off the map in a week, reducing the threat to Japan from China to a suicidal rocket attack that would open them to nation-ending retaliation.

Russia could fight but not win in the air and get bogged down fighting a land war in China until their economy collapsed and the whole place balkanized.

So you are right. The whole world would be helped more by giving China a black eye and Russia turning into a dozen warlord dominated petty people's republics in what we could call Africa Two: Africa In Snow.

>>31509409
>If putin does not give up the islands, he can kiss the investment goodbye. Its what abe wants. If abe does not get it, or no signals of getting it, no sense in giving russia something for nothing.
Russia can give something that worth far more than the island, a military alliance and armanent support.
>Jesus. The slavs dont have the logistical capability to invade japan.
That's true at the moment, but they are right next to Japan and China, and can invade China in support of Japan or provide Japan with more than enough troops/arms to defend it.

>>31509465
This does not help japan though, which is the entire point.

I get your bantz, though.

>>31509457
Except the US will never play against the PLA as it stands because its economy has become too dependent on China.

Not to mention all of this air superiority bullshit will not stop the chinks from sending refugees to Japan and act as a stealthy invasion force there.

>>31509465
>Africa Two: Africa In Snow

Fund it.

>>31509490
Should be for this>>31509465

>>31509471
>A military alliance with Russia.

Literally nobody thinks that means anything. Russia had to give away the wealth of half the world to keep the Warsaw Pact together, they don't have the money to buy friends like that anymore.

>Russia invading China.

China has three times the military budget of Russia and a gigantic war chest that could sustain aggressive, expensive operations for years.

Unless we are in a Tom Clancy crazy town where Japan really wants to get back into the Co-Prosperity Sphere game and throws themselves whole hog into helping China would stomp them into the dirt.

>>31509457
PACCOM is only strong as such because they have friendly water in Japan and S. Korea.

Cut Japan out, and PACCOM suddenly finds itself very limiting, unless it's decided to invade Japan to help S. Korea.

>>31509471
>Russia can give something that worth far more than the island, a military alliance and armanent support.

Japan already has that in much larger numbers, with better equipment from the US.

>and can invade China in support of Japan or provide Japan with more than enough troops/arms to defend it.

They can do nothing to stop the PLAN and a stalemate ground war (best case scenario) on the china/russia boarder does NOTHING to help japan.

Japan already has US marines on the shore, and the USN out at sea, both being conventionally superior to equivalent russian forces.

>>31509139
Expect a military coup anytime soon..this communist has made a lot of enemies in the Philippines and abroad

>>31508353
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>>31509509
>japan already has better equipment than the US

Please, i am curious friend, give us examples of their better equipment than the US Military

>>31509503
>Literally nobody thinks that means anything. Russia had to give away the wealth of half the world to keep the Warsaw Pact together, they don't have the money to buy friends like that anymore.
Russia is the 3rd most weapon exporter in the world and their shit are cheaper and more efficient than the US shit.
>China has three times the military budget of Russia and a gigantic war chest that could sustain aggressive, expensive operations for years.
China military is untested and lack battle experiences, unlike the ruskies.

>>31509509
>Japan already has that in much larger numbers, with better equipment from the US.
Plain lie, small arm-wise, Japan doesn't even have as much as US, let alone Russia.
>They can do nothing to stop the PLAN and a stalemate ground war (best case scenario) on the china/russia boarder does NOTHING to help japan.
It would blunt China and make them think twice about invading Japan.

>Japan already has US marines on the shore, and the USN out at sea, both being conventionally superior to equivalent russian forces.
USN and USAF sure, but thousand of marines are fucking nothing if the chinks get on shore.

>>31509490
>US economy dependent on China.

Why yes, the US would lose all those high value 70 billion a year exports to China, and they'd have to find new sources for imports from China. Geeze, they would lose hundreds of billions of dollars while factories in Africa and SE Asia were built to replace Chinese production and imports.

The US would face literally months of recession, followed by a recovery bounce with reinvestment.

It would really help if China dumped their treasury bonds at the same time. Depress the value of US debt and the dollar, you'd see skilled manufacturing basing in the US gain a lot, but it would hurt US imports. Fed would have to raise rates.

So... Depending on where you are economically, a war with China would be medium-suck short term or an overall good thing.

If you think any of that would stop the absurdly war happy Americans from going to war, you are on the good drugs friend.

>>31509547
>If you think any of that would stop the absurdly war happy Americans from going to war, you are on the good drugs friend.
Is this the same America that did was war-tired after Afghanistan and against the invasion of Lybia?

>>31509518
No, the US military has better equipment than a equivalent russian force. Really any russian expiditionary force.

>>31509536
>Cheaper and more efficient.

Hell yeah, Just look at state of the art Russian IAD kicking the shit out of the Americans in '92 Iraq.

>>31509560
Except the russian force wouldn't be equivalent, due to Russia being much closer to Japan than USA.

>>31509557
American war exhaustion is more 'we don't want to touch the Syria tar baby' then 'we won't defend our allies'.

>>31509546
>Plain lie, small arm-wise, Japan doesn't even have as much as US, let alone Russia.

See >>31509560

Right now japan has the US.

>It would blunt China and make them think twice about invading Japan.

So kow russia will invade BEFORE hostilities. Laughable anon.

>USN and USAF sure, but thousand of marines are fucking nothing if the chinks get on shore.

The same applies to russia then.

>>31509562
If you are using those as evidences, I can say Abrams are fucking shit when faced against ISIS.

>>31509567
>Except the russian force wouldn't be equivalent, due to Russia being much closer to Japan than USA.

Thats some retarded logic, because russia lacks the logistics to even directly help japan.

Meanwhile the US is already there, with more force than russia could ever realistically supply

>>31509570
How about Ukraine?

>>31509567
There's still water there, friendo. Water that Russia could not cross in the face of the JMSDF even if the 7th fleet was on a coffee break.

In truth the moment Russia started massing at Vladivostok the Americans would move enough hunter-killer subs into the area to make life suck forever for the first Russian to try to swim to Hokkaido.

>>31509518
He is saying japan has access to better equipment and a more powerful ally with the us, rather than with russia.

>>31509577
>Right now japan has the US.
The US has proven to be not reliable in current climate.
>So kow russia will invade BEFORE hostilities. Laughable anon.
Russia and Japan can do a two strikes that can blunt the chink main force though.
>The same applies to russia then.
They can ship in ten thousand slavs or more.

>>31509578
A deliberate US state department move to play pro-western forces off on the Russian-friendly puppet. Jink like they'd sign up with NATO, get Russia to panic and invade. Ukraine means nothing to the US but it gives a reason to get Germany on board with a bunch of very painful sanctions and punish Russia for being assholes.

Russia got played and smashed, all to keep a naval base they already had. It's statecraft as a weapon.

>>31509580
They literally need some fishing boats and they would get over.

And especially easier if Japan decides to let them in.

>>31509596
>>31509589

That's just delusional.

>>31509592
One more way to spin attempt of US/EU trying to make Ukraine Western-friendly but Russia stops them short.

>>31509601
The Soviet invasion of Japan would have happened if not for:
1. Nukes.
2. US occupies Japan first.

>>31509589
>The US has proven to be not reliable in current climate.

Wut

>Russia and Japan can do a two strikes that can blunt the chink main force though.

Being that japan will be on the defensive, and russia will bog down until a stalemate, and being its two separate forces doing the fighting (pla ground forces for russia, PLAN and marines for japan) no.

>They can ship in ten thousand slavs or more.

So can the US?

>>31509613
>Wut
The US has not really bolstered their forces in the Pacific and has not shown to be military effective in this decade.
>Being that japan will be on the defensive, and russia will bog down until a stalemate, and being its two separate forces doing the fighting (pla ground forces for russia, PLAN and marines for japan) no.
It's more like Japan taking the hit, while Russia destroys the PLA, while Japan gets back the momentum. The PLA is not battle-tested force, it is paper tiger in front of a professional experienced force.
>So can the US?
Russia has more troops than the US and is geographically closer to Japan.

>>31509596
>dudebro fishing boat transports!

I think we are done here...

>>31509624
That's all it needs though, Japan is very close to Russia.

>>31509622
>The US has not really bolstered their forces in the Pacific

Categorically false.

>Russia has more troops than the US

Categorically false.

If you are lying, why even bother debateing anything.

>>31509577
>Thats some retarded logic, because russia lacks the logistics to even directly help japan.
They have a direct land border with China's vulnerable North, and are like a few hundreds kms away drive from the Manchurian border with Beijing and the surrounding industrial centers. They can easily push for the capital with the amount of forces they shuttled in the far east on their last biggest exercise there, and smash a lot of strategic targets before the Chinese even mobilize.

>>31509645
>before the Chinese even mobilize.

In this scenario, the chinese already mobilized.

>>31509644
>Categorically false.
Prove it?
>Categorically false.
Currently, the Russia has a larger standing force than the US.

>>31509656
Mobilized or not, the chinks cannot do shit against a ruskie invasion.

>>31509657
1.4 us to 1 million rus active?

>m...muh reserves!

2 million rus to 2.2 million US reserves+natty guard?

US has a far larger standing force.

>>31509666
The King of Liars

>>31509065
>USA
>Anglo
By 2030 the biggest demographic in America will be Hispanic.

>>31509058
Americans used to be stereotyped as attractive successful people, now what people instantly think American means fat obnoxious retard, and they're probably right

>>31509679
OK, I concede on that issue.

Still, US forces are way more spread out compared to ruskie.

>>31509211
Yeah I'm sure everyone is gonna be head over heels voting for trump, instead of just bitterly resenting how it's come to this

>>31509348
Japanese wouldn't defect to chinks you brain-dead fucking spastic, you fucktard how can you be so fucking ignorant Jesus fuck

>>31509702
We shall see in November.

Trump supporters literally make him go from zero to hero.

>>31509708
They would if Russia acts as the mediator.

>>31509567
Your posts are painfully stupid to read. Gas yourself you vatnik fucktard

>>31509739
That's true though, Russia having a smaller force aside.

>>31508552
>Chinks move some of their lower-tier manufacturing across employing a chunk of the underclass
>Rich chinks invade in passenger liners and tourist buses; a wild renminbi appears
>Philippines get to just Thailand levels of poverty, with relatively good employment figures

>>31509691
Let me make this real simple for you.

The USN pacific fleet has more tonnage than the entire russian navy.

>>31509750
And?

Would not matter if the chinks successfully set foot in Japan.

>>31509757
You're literally a fucking retard

>>31509768
Look, buddy, the US isn't the invincible war horse anymore.

It's the weak horse now.

>>31509757
and how in the fuck do they do that with the USN blocking the air-sea routes?

>>31509774
You must be shitposting, Russia is a fucking joke nowadays, a regional power that likes to shout a lot, and you're telling me the US is a weak horse
Drown yourself you stupid slavic fucktard

>>31509757

I would love to see China try to force a contested landing on Japan before the USA can mobilise reinforcements.

If they made it past the Japanese submarines, to land a force, it would be overwhelmed before it could be reinforced, and pounded from the air, since China's number of air tankers & carrier based fighters are not enough to secure the air over the Japanese mainland.

>>31508292
The thing with these threads is that they get into pol territory. That's like a boatload of niggers going full retard.

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Why is this man so based.

Beijing is fucking satisfied.

http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2016/09/30/1629007/china-backs-dutertes-drug-war

>MANILA, Philippines — Beijing has expressed its support for President Rodrigo Duterte's campaign against the illegal drug trade despite criticisms from the United States, the European Union and some human rights groups.

>The chief executive has come under fire for the rising number of extrajudicial and vigilante killings of drug suspects ever since he took office.

>"Under the leadership of President Duterte, the new Philippine government enacted policies that prioritize combating drug-related crimes. China understands and supports that," Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson Geng Shuang said in a press briefing on Thursday.

>Geng stressed that the Chinese government has played a positive role in the international anti-drug campaign.

>"China understands and supports that. We stand ready to have anti-drug cooperation with the Philippines and formulate a common action plan for it," Geng said.

>The Chinese Foreign Ministry official further noted that fighting drug crimes is a shared responsibility among all countries around the world.

>"The Chinese government is resolute in cracking down on drug crimes. With clearly-defined policies and notable achievements, China is a staunch force in the international endeavor against drug crimes," the Chinese official said.

Du30 is basically following Maoist playbooks. Mao also managed to turn the Opium-Den that was China into a largely drug-free country by absolutely slaughtering everyone who has only remotely anything to do with drugs.

>>31508757
you won't be missed

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>>31508620
>visit Davao last year
>pic related on a bunch of cars

Nice.

Say what you will about Duterte, but I felt safe traveling all over Davao City as a pasty white Swede. My one regret is not getting a picture with that one security guard carrying a SPAS-15 guarding an empty parking lot.

>>31510136
Can filips get funs?
If so, how long till he copies the chinks again and turns into an extra authoritarian gun grabbing shithead?

>>31508292
What does this have to do with /k/?

>>31510136
Most drugs in flipland comes from china, though

>>31510204
>Can filips get funs?

Flipland is pretty much the most progun country in Asia ATM. So yeah.

>>31509805
Russia still has a pretty formidable military. They have new artillery that outrange ours by a third and can eliminate an entire armored column with thermobaric explosives. Their army is dumb conscript shit, but is a little bigger than ours and is moving over more towards voluntary service with special training. Their air defenses are fucking superb and their electronic countermeasures are better than ours.

Their military is NOT a fucking joke and they need to be taken seriously as the biggest militaristic threat to the United States, with China coming up to be a serious contender in the coming decades.

>>31510278
Why do Russians/russaboos think their military is in any way more of a threat than the Chinese military? The PLA is vastly more competent, capable and dangerous than the Russian military and is rapidly growing to be just as strong as the American military

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>>31510289
The PLA is vastly more competent, capable and dangerous than the Russian military and is rapidly growing to be just as strong as the American military

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>>31510310
>The PLA is vastly more competent, capable and dangerous than the Russian military and

The only places the PLA have been engaged in the last 20 years is with Mali, and that port in Pakistan. there is no significant chunk of the PLA that's been tested in any way.


meanwhile, Russa has been fighting something with significant troop deployment since the collapse of the USSR.

>>31510278
>but is a little bigger than ours
No. Like, not even remotely close. The entire Russian Federation military (including reserve forces) is about the size of just the active USMC

>>31508325
That's hilarious.


I've trained with the Flips. They fucking suck, we would absolute decimate them.

>>31510349
>Russa has been fighting something with significant troop deployment since the collapse of the USSR.

Decay? Incompetence? Alcoholism?

They failed at all three, at any rate.

Meanwhile China has a military several times the size of both Russia AND America's combined, while constantly pushing the envelope with new technology and advanced equipment. Russia meanwhile struggle to stay afloat and Americans keep wasting billions of dollars on floating triangles and useless rustbuckets

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>>31510380
So how much are they paying you to post retarded shit?

>>31510356
>American active personnel: 1,301,300
>Russian active personnel: 1,000,000
>American reserve personnel: 811,000
>Russian reserve personnel: 2,000,000

So I was wrong that Russia's was slightly bigger when it came to active personnel, but they're pretty damn close to us.

>>31510380
>Several times the size of both Russia AND America's combined
>Chinese active personnel: 2,333,000

So that was dumb and you should feel ashamed but hey, I said something pretty stupid this thread too. Not nearly anything as stupid as what you've been posting, but it's not a contest.

>>31510380
Oh and all that "new technology" is stolen and recycled American/Russian/European tech. China's innovation is a fucking joke. That doesn't mean they aren't dangerous or a threat, but let's not pretend that as it currently stands they are on par with Russia or America, though admittedly they are progressing a lot faster than either and will probably surpass both within 50 years.

>>31510403
>citation

Maybe it's time to put them back in line

>>31510425
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_number_of_military_and_paramilitary_personnel

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Armed_Forces

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Armed_Forces

>>31510403
You do know that literally nobody believes Russia has a million active personnel, right? Estimates from NATO have them around 530,000.

And counting everybody who did their couple months of conscript training then fucked off as reserve forces is disingenuous at best. Even in a "we've been invaded and the Kremlin is about to fall" situation they couldn't get even a quarter of those to show back up.

>>31510450
Yeah Hitler thought the same thing then Russia pulled 14 million conscripts out of its ass and started pumping out tens of thousands of tanks

Goddamn all that matters is that Russia and China can rain down small arms as fast as they can to any country they back, without paying much prices at all, unlike the Jew SA.

I don't care if it's an AR or AK, as long as it shoots, I'm down with it.

>>31510445
Why is it always wikipedia?

>>31510458
First thing that shows up in google and is at least somewhat reliable considering it's a collaboration of different sources

>>31510463
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_number_of_military_and_paramilitary_personnel
Wikipedia says North Korea is going to fuck us all.

>>31510445
>million troops
>click individual branches and start adding
Ground forces: 230,000
Aerospace forces: 188,000
Naval forces: 130,000
Airborne forces: 45,000
>total: 593,000
RIDF hard at work I see.

>>31510476
What wikipedia won't tell you is that none of those troops have ammo or food

>>31510484
The rest are government employed military grade assault trolls that shitpost on macaroon sewing boards about the Russian military

>>31510454
And that was before they were raping/beating/starving their conscripts on film and before the internet, and before literally a century of corruption and abuse disenfranchised 100% of the population.

>>31510403
>not counting the 1.5m national guard

You goofed

>>31510488
Russia has always treating its conscripts like shit, they just get socks in the 00s.

And now there are over 100 millions ruskies.

>>31510493
This. The Texas National Guard is bigger than the entire Russian Army.

Probably better trained and definitely better equipped too.

>>31510499
70% of which are women and faggots, thus by-law precluded from combat service.

>>31510509
lol wut?

Are you sure you are not talking about the US?

>>31510501
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_Army_National_Guard

>The Texas Army National Guard is composed of approximately 19,000 soldiers

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Guard_of_the_United_States

>Texas 19,605 2,938 22,543

those numbers being army, air, and total btw

>>31510513
Nah. Women and faggots are allowed to serve in any occupation in the US.

Being homosex in Russia is still illegal.

>>31510493
something doesn't add up here

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Guard_of_the_United_States

State/Territory Army National Guard Air National Guard Total
Alabama 11,023 2,232 13,255
Alaska 1,879 2,059 3,938
Arizona 5,206 2,421 7,627
Arkansas 7,463 1,873 9,336
California 16,450 4,637 21,087
Colorado 4,023 1,481 5,504
Connecticut 3,593 1,166 4,759
Delaware 1,587 1,014 2,601
Florida 9,937 1,793 11,730
Georgia 11,100 2,769 13,869
Hawaii 3,039 2,287 5,326
Idaho 3,456 1,307 4,763
Illinois 10,050 2,876 12,926
Indiana 12,168 1,819 13,987
Iowa 7,370 1,943 9,313
Kansas 5,096 2,277 7,373
Kentucky 7,281 1,182 8,463
Louisiana 9,457 1,426 10,883
Maine 2,077 1,118 3,195
Maryland 4,792 1,431 6,223
Massachusetts 6,218 2,153 8,371
Michigan 8,788 2,546 11,334
Minnesota 10,974 2,246 13,220
Mississippi 9,678 2,394 12,072
Missouri 9,050 2,403 11,453
Montana 2,787 1,039 3,826
Nebraska 3,758 963 4,721
Nevada 3,203 1,082 4,285
New Hampshire 1,772 1,019 2,791
New Jersey 6,101 2,396 8,497
New Mexico 3,019 839 3,858
New York 10,648 5,649 16,297
North Carolina 10,278 1,480 11,758
North Dakota 3,278 1,001 4,279
Ohio 11,441 4,711 16,152
Oklahoma 7,214 2,246 9,460
Oregon 6,511 2,181 8,692
Pennsylvania 15,640 3,897 19,537
Rhode Island 2,104 1,175 3,279
South Carolina 9,459 1,305 10,764
South Dakota 3,266 1,043 4,309
Tennessee 10,623 3,355 13,978
Texas 19,605 2,938 22,543
Utah 5,650 1,395 7,045
Vermont 2,797 1,087 3,884
Virginia 7,452 1,094 8,546
Washington 5,936 2,080 8,016
West Virginia 4,138 2,360 6,498
Wisconsin 7,526 2,259 9,785
Wyoming 1,637 1,164 2,801
Puerto Rico 7,280 1,210 8,490
Guam 1,244 431 1,675
DC 1,360 1,221 2,581
Virgin Islands 776 65 841
Total 358,258 103,538 461,796

Guess the RIDF isn't the only one bolstering its military's numbers

>>31510527
Oh god, so the US armed forces are full of women and faggots then.

Any numbers of them mean jackshit.

>>31510527
>Being homosex in Russia is still illegal.


Unless you're an officer. In which case you can force conscripts to suck dick for you all day long.

>>31510537
There is a national guard infrastructure thats not attached to any state, iirc

>>31510499
But now all the other russians know it and aren't showing up completely clueless. Because of the internet.

Why else would 63% of conscripts dodge their conscription?

>>31508292
Discussions about politics or current events belong on /pol/.
>>>/pol/
>>31510221
faggot flip keeps on spamming because he can't live without sucking american dick.

>>31510553
They got no choices.

Nowadays, Russia relies on contracted soldiers anyway.

>>31510549
that explains it

>>31510556
>posting your report
Smooth move exlax

>>31510310
>>31510380
>1 garlic clove has been deposited in your glorious peoples bucket

>>31510580
I forgot to greentext on that first post there, I was trying to make fun of him.

>>31508733
Is the Philippines basically a failed state?

>>31508757
We hardly contribute much to America's wars anyway, so when they have like tens of thousands we only deploy less than 2,000

Kek, they're the ones who are cucked not us. Only person who would deploy the entire defence force is Based Tones

>>31511133
>we only deploy less than 2,000
So basically the entire Australian military?

>>31509184
You realise that The Putin elbows his way into every international affair because he's obsessed with his "great power" autism

I kek hard every time I see Vlad trying to portray Russia as a global powa, it's just so pathetic but kind of cute at the same time

How many exercises does America even hold in Asia? I know of the Korean one, and the Thai one which despite some issues with the coup, is still going.

>USA loses in Syria
>USA loses in Iraq
>USA loses the Philippines
>USA loses in Ukraine
>USA snubbed by Mexico
>USA snubbed by North Korea
Amerifats are basically done on the international stage. Time for your soldiers to stay home and not spread your evil influence.

>>31511291
>he said as he waits for his bucket of Americum rations

>>31511274

Straya counts as Asia for most of these things so a fair few.

>>31511302
>Amerifat fantasies
Oi m i laffin

>>31511351
>his chuckle coming out hoarse and weak, having been little to nourish him but snow coffee; as Bird Tuesday is long since gone.

>>31508311
It's like Gihren Zabi irl

>>31509153
You are retarded

>>31509722
Back it up or fuck off

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China's intelligence operations... They all just work.

What sort of magic is this?

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>retarded, characterless yesmen who commit national suicide-by-immigrants and sell out their own country are usually Pro-America to the point of being stooges.

>red-pilled charismatic strongmen with strong national interests in mind and are fiercely patriotic are usually Anti-American.

Hmmm....
Really makes you think.

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>>31508353
Actually thought this guy was pretty decent and wanted to clean up his country but if he said something like that and thought it was funny he is a piece of shit that I would put a bullet in the back of his head if I could. Just a 3rd world scumbag like the rest.

>>31511291
All this will change when Hillary is elected.

It'll be the Bush years all over again!

>>31510476
>Norks
>not immediately going AWOL and defecting the moment a gun is no longer pointed at the back of their head

wew lad

>>31511541
What? Does that rape joke trigger you?

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>>31511523
yeah, makes me think I need more ammo because the Russkies are invading 4chan.

>>31511619
The fact that you and him find it funny making a joke about someone that was raped and killed just goes to show how fucked up you are.

>>31511523
They're anti-American because they are countries with competing incompatible ideologies, you fucking mongoloid. Peddle your facile arguments elsewhere.

>>31509562

Not this guy but look at georgia '08, same shit

>>31511657
I find it funny, rape jokes are funny.

>>31511670
But nearly all those countries used to have at least one pro-american Leaders one time, who all turned out to be utterly incompetent sell outs who created more misery and poverty than before. Jelzin, Aquino, Jiang Zeming etc...

To be a strongman is to be someone who doesnt want to be a slave to the US.

Sadly, there are still countries and leaders who rather want to remain in their prostating pose instead of standing up.

>>31511691
Ya I'm sure it would still be funny if it was your sister, mother, girlfriend or wife that was raped and killed. I bet you would be full of laughter joking about how they were raped and killed.

>>31511731
Too bad it ain't, haha.

>>31511291
>USA loses in Ukraine
>implying US had Ukraine in the first place

>US "snubbed" by Mexico
>'snubbed' by a country that is totally reliant on the US and has virtually no capacity for any hostile action towards the US

>US "snubbed" by North Korea
>North Korea

Are Eurotrash slowly losing their minds?

>>31508576
He's like the Flip version of Trump

>>31511795
>'snubbed' by a country that is totally reliant on the US and has virtually no capacity for any hostile action towards the US
Mexico is flooding Amerifats with drugs and immigrants. Your army is worthless.

>North Korea
The same North Korea that carries unrestricted nuclear tests now because big bad China won't let Amerifats do anything. Kek

>Are Eurotrash slowly losing their minds?
>A delusional Amerifat calling anyone mad

>>31511819
It's almost like Duterte is a warning sign...

Really makes you think

>>31508325
The US didn't have a chance even in it's prime. The Armed Forces of the Philippines was and still is the Premier fighting force of the world. It is equivalent to the combined military strength of NATO.

>>31511103

Yes. Workers in Manilla are provided lodging if they have to work late, because of the crime rate after dark.

Seriously, it's shit. There's a reason this guy got elected on a fuck-the-criminals ticket.

>>31508737
Youre an idiot if you seriously think he wouldnt kill his opponents if they get too close, just like hillshits.

>>31511842

Can you two stop beating your (probably hairless) chests over rim jobbing your own foreign policy and get back on topic?

>>31508756
Now this is what i xall CTR

>>31508417
based flip, mexico needs a leader like him. those spics need to clean house more than the Philippines

>>31511842
>implying a few moronic politicians crying about Trump and one ex president saying Mexico would "declare war" is somehow a danger to America
>implying Mexico could do anything worse than what they're already doing, or that their military has even the slightest chance against the US

>North Korea, a country with a military in complete shambles and whose only reason for surviving is because China would cry and whine if they were crushed poses a threat to America. Because they might eventually make a nuke, the launch of which would be detected almost immediately and would result in a completely justified retaliatory attack

You are embarrassingly delusional, I would tell you to go to /pol/ but they wouldn't want you either. Europeans on /k/ are fucking terrible

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>>31508737
We can only hope

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>>31508756
You have to go back

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>>31511879

>>31511772
Not him, but you're a edgy faggot. Kys

This guy is a communist shill trying to use his violent anti-narcotics campaign to deflect his constant praising and touting of China and Russia

As a Flip I am absolutely triggered at the mere thought of democracy being replaced by communism

Ooga booga where da CIA at?

>>31508756
Deporting illegals is neither violent nor unconstitutional.

>>31514963
Hippies ruined everything.

>>31511291
>Sadam dethroned and Iraq plunged into chaos
>implying the je- err I mean the United states didn't win

>>31508756
>Wants to enforce the law

>>31508292
I think he knows usa is going to kill him sooner or latter you don't insult a black mans mama lol
>>31508311
erogon said he wants to be like hitler as well

>>31514963
yeah man last time a country tried to kick drugs out of there country they got invaded

look at china the opem wars
afghanisthan lol

>>31515890
Enforcing the law is racist and xenophobic

>>31511619

Why is it that a joke about a genuine rape/murder gets a pass on /k/ or /pol/, but references in popular culture to typical street crime like dealing, theft, money motivated robberies etc triggers MUH DEGENERACY

>>31511691

To you maybe

>>31508790
>>31508807
>>31508837
>>31508860
>>31508872
>>31511949
>>31513968
>>31515006
Friendly reminder that if it was white Europeans illegally immigrating into the US, none of you would care

But because they're brown, you want it stopped

>>31508292
He seemed like a nice guy, but now he's just another Globalist pansy.

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>>31516558
Not an argument

>>31516558
No it's not because they're brown. It's because they're statistically less intelligent, their poor, and they bring crime. Sikhs are welcome and they tend to be very brown.

Are you really so stupid that you can't get why importing a bunch of people from a failing culture is a bad idea whereas bringing in successful people from a successful culture is a good idea?

>>31517009
>their poor

Past European immigrants to the US were largely poor too

>Bring me your tired, your poor

>>31516558
If white europeans were coming here illegally they'd be getting deported left and right with little opposition, because american "liberals" don't give a shit about poor whites, only poor third world brown people that they can shamelessly attempt to subvert and milk for votes.

>>31508292

The US must have done something very wrong to have alienated such a great man.

>>31516558
Indeed, brown have no place in America.
>>31516896
Fighting against America's rule is against globalist.

>>31516451
Because rape jokes are funny.

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>>31517034

>Past European immigrants to the US were largely poor too

They didn't try to take over the country though.

>>31517119
Ehh. I think the Irish and Italians kind of did.

>>31517034
they also worked hard and integrated, innovated the country

>>31516558
I'd rather get educated third worlders that go through the process like myself than border hopping illegals who give us the finger

>>31517119
The Germans took over though

>>31517099
>a communist
>has Muslim ties

>>31514553
>triggered by joke
>tells anon to kill himself

hypocrite

>>31508292
Their country, their call. You guys act like they're entitled to be our bitch or something. And if shit were to go down regardless we have the Mutual Defense Treaty so they'd be begging us to return.

>>31511624
Damn that's such a sharp render
>tfw we'll never get Sailor Moon 4K scans

>>31511485
BECAUSE CHINA IS NUMBER ONE.

Btw what are some of these intelligence operations you speak of that've worked?

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>>31517119
>They didn't try to take over the country though.
You're not great at history are ya?