Where were you when a hi-point was confirmed more reliable t

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Sigfags on suicide watch.

>>31499521
Hipoints are the new CZ. Cheap and looks like fucking shit.

>>31499600
>200$ gun beats a 1000$ gun
Makes me laugh when sigfags go apeshit over that

>>31499591
Not a Sigfag, but the P320 was the most reliable striker gun MAC put through his gauntlet.

>>31499617
Same, and the scary thing is I almost bought a Sig. Luckily it broke in my hand at the LGS, so I bought an HK instead.

Mac fags will say anything

This stupid shit again? I wish people would realize that some random asshat throwing a gun into a tub of water and dirt isnt a proper stress test or any real judge or reliability.

>>31499718
>making a gun dirty isn't how you test to see how a gun deals with dirt
uh huh, cry more kid.

>>31499738
His point is that it isn't a real scientific test, it's just one gun versus another, basically no sample size, there isn't really a control either.

The Hi-Point is reliable, sure, it's a very simple action, and there isn't anything even remotely as good at it's retail price of $150, but that doesn't make it an amazing pistol, and I'd be willing to give the Sig the benefit of the doubt, to see more testing done (on each).
I say this as someone who doesn't really like Sig pistols by the way.

>>31499822
Niggerfaggot

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>>31499521
Poorfag pride worldwide.

>>31499521
if they'd fix the magazines so all ammo in a full mag wouldn't nose dive they'd be decent guns.

>>31499600
>CZ's
>look like shit

Hi-points look almost like Glocks. Bulky and awkward looking as fuck.

>>31499983
Glock also look like shit but in a different way. I was referring to CZs horrible fit and finish.

>>31499846
Good counter.

>>31500001
So why do take your trip off when you shitpost in Cz threads?

>>31500057
>hurr durr I'm a big dumb bitch

>>31500057
I don't. protip I'm not the only person that thinks CZs are trash, don't take it so personally.

>>31499718
so what is? if they run 1000rds through it at the range, some test eh

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>>31499521
sig had it coming. pretentious overpriced un-ergonomic dog shit. H&K is next.

>>31500093
I'm glad you've come to terms with who you are.

>>31500101
>I'm not the only person that thinks CZs are trash
You definitely are the most vocal and irrational about it though.

>>31500112
How about testing 500 Hi-Points against 500 Sigs and then using a control? That'd be a start.

>>31500123
>most vocal and irrational
Nope, haven't even posted in a CZ thread in weeks. Sorry youre so bootyblasted.

>>31500123
>wahhh wahhh my dad used to fuck me on Thursdays and so now I'm bored without the ritual

>>3150013
ok then test 500 of each in dirt. sig fails...buttmad

>>31500142
Totally believe you.

>>31500146
You sure are mad about not having anything to say.

>>31500161
I would actually love to see 500 Sigs all consistently fail mudtests, that would be fucking hysterical, particularly if the Hi-Point passes with flying colors.

>>31499822
nah this dude>>31499846
nailed it you're a fagnigger

>>31500189
So how's /b/ these days?

>>31500181
>I miss when my uncle used to jackhammer me while grandpa cheered him on
Faggot
>>31500189
I calls em likes I sees em

>>31500200
You sure go for the incestual gay rape angle a lot, is there something you want to talk about anon, is everything ok at home?

https://www.armytimes.com/story/military/tech/2016/09/29/army-considers-hipoint-pistol-in-handgun-trials-sep-29/79650369/

Army confirmed to be MAC watchers. Where were you when S&W was kill?

>>31500226
>abloo bloo you found out I was raped and now I'm gonna try to deflect it onto you just like when my older cousins used to deflect their semen onto me when they bukkake'd me
Faggot

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>>31499600

Kinda wish he'd have tested a .45 ACP Hi Point instead.

>>31500513
It's ok anon, you can talk to us about it.

>>31501223
>look at me still deflecting by offering to console you even though I was the one raped by older male family members and their friends to the point where they began pimping me out at nambla meetings
Kek I bet you suck dicks on the weekends because it's all you know fucking queer

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>>31499600
>Cheap and looks like fucking shit.

>>31502091
Bruh, hi-point look like the type of toys you'd find in a dollar store

>>31502115
No I agree, I meant the CZ comment.

What's the difference between a government trial with 2 pistols as a control and MAC basically doing standard testing?

Don't care if it's a silly test, because there are more silly Glock tests that are used as justification of its durability

>>31502216
Because only one of each being tested, and only one kind of mud, there are a LOT of variables to account for here.

>>31499521
I wonder

What if the Hi-Point came out in the year 1911, instead of the 1911?

What would guns today look like?

>>31499624
Eh, the Glock's malfunctions were so minor I think it's at least on par with the P320.

>not going into battery, but being abel to be pushed in with no trouble is just as much a malfunction as completely seizing up
kek

did we watch the same video? it didnt exactly do amazing either

>>31499903
yeah, all it would take is a redesign of the follower and a new mag spring, maybe the cost of 1 round per magazine in capacity.

>>31499600
muslimbro back with some more quality retardation

>>31500136
feel free to pay for those samples and record and publish the data, my man.

>>31503263
It did a lot better than most of the other way more expensive guns did

>>31503298
not more than the glock, rex, or the 320 for certain. its even debatable about being better than the sig.

>>31499628
>being a Koch sucker
I always knew you were gay.

>>31499624
The 320 had problems even without the testing kek

>>31499591
Everyone but Sig fanboys have known for a while that they don't have much in the way of value over other guns. They sell overpriced guns on reputation, image and perception of value all while cutting QC and churning out guns of lesser quality than most any other major brand.
Seriously, how hard is it to make a proper extractor? All the other companies have been able to do it.

>not watching the legion test all the way through
>not reading comments
Both alluded to the problem being the Legion's tighter tolerances than the regular 226
Just sayin'

Do you homos ever talk about guns without getting into some sort of giant argument?

>>31503511
>not reading the comments
>not seeing the follow up instagram clip where he demonstrated the slide fit on the Legion was looser than the Rex Zero 1
Just sayin'

>>31503512
Found the newfag

>>31503512
To be fair, it would be pretty boring if threads were the opposite.
>OP: "I like <insert gun>"
>"yeah they're great"
>"yep"
>"me too"
>"OP is bretty gud"
>"I disagree but I respect OP'S opinion"
Ect.

>>31503747
it can be fun if there's a sharing of information and experience

>>31503747
no way, faggot, you're wrong about all of that. It'd be frigan sweat if all you dicks could quit argueing for ten seconds

>>31503180
Straight blowback pistols in 9mm Luger existed around WW1, though made of steel and sleeker and better balanced than the Hi-Point (which is made from zinc alloy with steel reinforcements to save on cost, the zinc alloy having to be thicker to add weight and strength).

They weren't very popular.

>>31503836

Some people just have incorrect opinions

>>31503801
Nerd

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>mfw my only handgun is a P226

>>31503859
Hmmmm... Yeah I guess so. Straight blowback is a lot older.

>>31503875
I wish I was a nerd then I would be less retarded

>>31503180
>>31503859
>>31503937

How much would you guys pay for a straight blowback 9x19 made of aluminum?

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>>31499521
GOOD ENOUGH FOR DUKE NUKEM, GOOD ENOUGH FOR YOU, FAGGOT

>>31503401
As a bit of a Sigfag (I don't own one but I've shot many and a 226 has been on my shopping list for ages), it's pretty frustrating to see the QC going to such shit and the gun testing so badly.

That test had a pretty great silver lining for me, though, and that's how well the REX did. I'm actually not all that wrapped up in the Sig image, I just like the ergos of the 22x series more than any comparable handgun I've shot, and the REX offers the same experience at half the price.

>>31503994
Nothing because aluminum is too light and weak to handle straight blowback with a 9x19. The slide would have to be absolutely massive or be full of lead weights or some shit.

Maybe you could make some crazy exotic straight blowback gun with a slide made of tungsten or something, but there's not much point when locking actions exist and can be made for a few hundred bucks more than a Hi-Point costs.

>>31503994
Nothing, I don't want a cinderblock/handbomb.

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>>31499600
People who hate CZs are just angry that their glock or Sig isn't as good as a CZ.

The #1 shit post is about CZ coatings, that's says a lot about the CZ haters.

4/10 got me to respond

>>31499738

>I have no idea what sample size is, the post.

Call me back when MAC tests multiple pistols. His m&p not working with water when there's multiple other people who did the same water test and the M&P passed tells me nothing except MAC has shitty luck.

>hard primers
dumb test

>>31499521
Mk25, every time you post an anti 226 thread. You never compare the right one, just the overpriced fuckshit edition with no value over a TacOps. Learn your market, faggot

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sweet, sweet validation

>>31507030
Fuck u, todd.
If anyone gets this reference that would be nice.

>>31499521
I fucking called it last week in the mp9 thread, figured it would take a year for it to happen though

>>31507030

this

I only own one non-Hi Point handgun (RRA 1911) and these threads are fucking hilarious to read. Idiots who spend $500+ on Sigs, HKs, etc. that aren't even much more accurate or reliable than my C9 when that extra money could go towards ammo, gear, training, supplies, etc.

If you're using a handgun in SHTF you're only doing it while fighting to your rifle, which is what you should really splurge on if you want to do that. Even then you hit diminishing returns around the $600 range where, again, the extra money would be better spent on other shit.

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>>31507728
> tfw about to spend 800 on a RIA 10mm doublestack 1911

>>31503908
to be fair the legion is the match model with tighter tolerances, the regular 226 would have performed closer to the apex

>>31508606

MAC showed the tolerances between the legion and the arex. The legion rattled a hell of a lot more than the arex did.

>>31499521
And he STILL hasn't re-tested the VP9.

>>31507728
I think that you and many people in this thread need to keep in mind that a lot of folks don't necessarily care about the "reliability" of their firearms when subjected to extreme environments. Many people just shoot their guns for fun, and there's no need to worry about whether or not it's going to work in some SHTF scenario that's not going to happen anyway.

>>31508717
He said he was going to at the end of the Hi Point vid

>>31508821
Even then, for people with working guns, few of them will realistically be going through the mud anyway.

The M1 Carbine was considered an excellent all around carbine for decades, and it didn't really suffer a bad reputation for it's reliability, because people generally didn't drag them through the mud in civilian life (the "can't go through a wintercoat" maymay is another thing).

>>31503836
>>>/reddit/ might be more your speed.

>>31500142
Get out of here and go blow yourself up somewhere sandnigger

>>31503376
[citation needed]

>>31504036
>Damn, that's the second those bastards broke my gun, time to call Hi-Point for a free replacement!

>>31499521
I'm interested in them revisiting the Makarov. I'd like to see how a higher quality straight blowback gun would perform in this test, especially after their previous Makarov torture test where the only way they were able to get the gun to malfunction was to fire it underwater (slide jumped off the frame, likely due to how the gun disassembles).

>>31499600
so far my p01 and sp01 have held up their finishes greatly for the most part, and ive been taking them hiking. sure they get banged up and scratched but thats not where the finish lacks. the places ive seen the finish lack in is on the inside, like the barrel. ive noticed this the most with the sp01 since it had a black finish which wore out extremely quickly, like as soon as i started racking it after buying it. i dont mind that too much though desu. if you want the sp01 as a safe queen/collection piece you should keep this in mind though, youd probably have to look into redoing the finish

one weird spot that the finish wore out on both was where the hammer hits, theres literally a hammer imprint of where it lands that the finish has wore off

>>31508572
I will fucking kill you if you do that.
Save your pesos

>>31507030
How does it group tho?

>>31507030
genuinely curious, what are the cons, if any, of a hipoint? is it not durable? its obviously not a great ccw choice, i assume, as it looks pretty bulgy

>>31499628
Who's going to be the target of your Islamic rage? Btw my friends slaughter your friends like sheep.

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>>31500142
Look at your buddy suck a 30mm right to the guts. Just makes my day, fambam

wat

>>31511343

It's just a bulky gun that's a pain in the ass to disassemble, to the point that they recommend you just spray some cleaner in the bitch and call it a day.

But I have several that I keep as truck guns / bathroom guns / etc.

Better than the 80's/90's ring of fire guns.

>>31511667
huh, bathroom gun, thats not a bad idea anon. thanks

I don't get it, even if you're a poorfag just save up a little more cash and get a used Glock or something. In the long run your savings wouldn't be that spectacular considering ammo cost, range fees, cleaning supplies, and a good holster and belt (implying hi-points are regularly shot or carried anyway).

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>mfw M&P9 fags got btfo by a zinc alloy, piece of shit
How will they ever recover?

>>31503401
How to troll sigfags:
>get astra a-100
>scribble "SIG" on it with crayons
>hand them the gun
>don't tell them what it is
>let them shoot it
>explain that it's a 300$ Spanish gun
>clean up brain matter from exploding head
Fuck sig. The fucking spaniards can produce the same shit for a quarter the price.

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>>31513428

>implying SIGs are expensive.

>>31513480
Meanwhile, the spanish p 228 clone can literally be found for a quarter of the price.

>>31513497

So for $60?