>tfw when gun control has never worked a single time in a

That's not true. Gun controls has worked pretty well at disarming the population for a genocide.

>>31460719
zealotry doesn't always need religiosity, though it definitely looks like it from the outside

>life in argentina
>country had a tyrant in the late 70's
>dad remembers it well
>he thinks guns r bad
>if we had guns we could have avoided it

>>31460719
>Australia
into the bin it goes

Youre all idiots. Of course it won't work in the short term. This is not a one day problem solver. It takes decades to completely disarm the population so they don't keep killing each other or thinking of killing each other. As a cop i highly support gun control. Had enough of being shot at.

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>>31460733
Or cultural enrichment.

>>31462175
CTR GET OUT REEEEEEEEEE

>>31462175
Ah, yes, the old "it will work eventually" argument. How convenient that it's an argument that can be used repeatedly forever, until no one's great grandfather remembers what it was like to be able to hold a gun.

Also, I highly doubt your a cop. Cops tend to be pretty pro-second amendment, given that they realize just how futile the attempts at gun regulation are.

>>31462175
You are over employed. Most cops I know are in favor of law-abiding citizens having arms, because they aren't the criminals shooting at you, and those private arms stop more crimes than police do.

>>31462175
>"Thinking of killing each other"
>"thinking"
>thought crime
>1984

>>31462175
Is that sexual harassment? Hugh mungus what?

>>31461420
Dude I lived in Argentina for a couple years, and I heard tons of old people say that sometimes they would get chased by the "verde ford falcons" owned by the militares. Crazy shit dude. If they had guns there would be a lot less people who disappeared that's for sure

Also, Cristina was totally a dictator too, just a popular one. She freakin had Alberto Nisman killed and got away with it

>>31460719
>what is Japan
>what is Russia

>>31462546
I know.
I am too young to remember, and while i am right winger i dont think i hate on cristina (although what happened with nisman is just the same thing to what happened with the DNC witnessess being killed for no reason).

Its just that although argentina its technically a third world country, its not fucking africa.

It bothers me when people in the US think "nah, there wont be a coup d'tat in the US. That kind of things dont happen here".

That kind of ideology just leaves your guard down from a real and serious threat. The fact that in Argentina the gun laws have only been getting stricter, even with fucking immigrant and criminals running rampant its only proof that the 2nd amendment should be held true. Both to protect yourself against the government and against criminals.

If trump wins, i might move to the US.

>>31462563
>japan
>the country where unresolved crimes are considered suicides
>the country where people would rather walk around shitty laws than try to remove them
>the country in the middle of the sea where you cant get illegal guns
>russia
>the place that got famous for a strong military force and arming everyone

>>31462563
Doesn't Russia have a really high murder rate or overall crime rate or something? And isn't Japan in the top the countries, if not the top one, in suicides per capita?

>>31462563
Russia has one of if not the highest homicide rates in the world.

>>31462563
Russia also has a lovely habit of assassinating it's own people, so there's not really a lot of incentive to do a whole lot to piss Putin off.

Slavaboos will try to defend this by saying it doesn't happen anymore and they don't operate like the KGB in 2016, but that's bullshit.

Russia a shit.

>>31462563
>>what is Japan
>I have no fucking idea how crime and police work in Japan
Literally tons and tons of coverups and "suicides" when the murder is considered unsolvable. Not only that, but the police won't fuck with gangs either
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Monster_with_21_Faces
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glico_Morinaga_case

>>what is Russia
wew

>>31462618
Because more people with guns with a guy likely to completely destabilize the economy and make everyone pissed at each other?

>>31462704
>with a guy likely to completely destabilize the economy
Ok senpai. Trump doesn't know a thing about economy. I suppose that a cop has no idea about laws either.

>>31462665
>>31462673
So what? Gun crime is like 5000 per year in Russia (everything including brandishing, poaching etc). In Chicago alone happens around 4000 shootings per yeah.

Gun control works! It in fact controls guns.

>>31462175
>Had enough of being shot at.
Then find a new job.

>>31462563
>what is Japan
A country that never had popular civilian ownership of guns and where samurai were stripped of their swords and made extinct.

>>31462820
>A country that had gun control since 17th century
Fixed for you. Yes, it works.

>>31462836
Yes dude. Japan has no issues at all since they removed guns. Virility is through the roof and there is no gambling since its also illegal.

>>31462710
Some don't. I bet you're some left-leaning establishment bootlicker. Or a kike. I don't know which is worse.

>>31462789
That's typically what people who are anti gun argue, which is generally correct to a degree, but violent crime and crime in general rises after guns are banned.

Doesn't matter if someone killed another with a gun, or knife, sword, boulder, stick, etc. They still killed someone.

>>31462856
I am right leaning m8. You are the one who stated a socialist thing.

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>>31462175
>doesn't like getting shot at
>still a cop
I think it's time piggy left the pen.

>>31462563
>what is Japan
A 1st world country with homogeneous ethnicity and culture will have little violent crime. Whether that is Japan with no guns or Switzerland with guns everywhere does not matter. Correlation is not causation; guns have little to no relation to violent crime rates internationally.

>>31462618
Oh don't get me wrong I fucking loved living in Argentina. You guys are awesome. And yeah things are fucked here too and I get more paranoid all the time of some slow gradual government takeover, but from living in both countries it looks like Argentina has had a fought time with corrupt politicians. Macri seems pretty cool though.

Again, I only lived there a couple years so I could be wrong about how corrupt things are. There are definitely a lot worse countries, and I would actually love to live in Buenos Aires again someday

>>31463129
>a fought time
Shit I meant "tough" time

>>31463129
I never said you wouldn't.

You went to brazil? try going to the north coast. Caribbean as fuck there and beautiful beaches.

If the meat in the US or in europe is anywhere near what you can get in brazil, any myth about argentinean food being one of the greatest in the world is not a joke. One of the things i would miss when i leave. Good meat here its something that you almost never get tired of

>>31460719
Gun control is proven to reduce gun violence. Which I guess is a good thing if you'd rather be beaten to death than be shot.

>>31463172
Nah I've never been to Brazil. It'd be cool to go, but honestly I really did fall in love with Argentina. No homo. The food was great, the girls were hella fine, and I perfected my argentine Spanish and lunfardos, even though it's probably harder for me to speak it now.

Yeah I remember first having argentine asado and thinking I could eat that every day for the rest of my life and be happy. I actually grew fond of milanesa de pollo though, it was simple and easy but hella tasty.

I should probably check out other countries though and see what else is out there

>>31462836
So, in other words, a country that doesn't have statistics for pre-gun gun control and post gun-control statistics for homocides. Given what we've seen in every other country on Earth, it literally wouldn't change the homocides rate at all if Japan had the same gun rights as the USA.

Unless, of course, you're saying that Japan is the one magical country in all of history where gun control works at reducing homocides, but given how it's fellow island nations Australia and the U.K. both failed to do so, you're gonna have to provide some proof.

>>31463187
It works so well in mexico, europe and africa!

>>31463224
I usually try them with a ceasar salad and some lemon and salt. I've seen a lot of people talk great about the south end of the country and peru. Maybe you could give it a try if you are around.

>>31463270
Now that you brought it up, i really want to know how many people in the ban period kept their guns and used them after they were illegal.

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>>31460719
Gun Control doesn't pass a basic logic test. The statistics are just icing on the cake.

>>31462563
>Japan
Disarmament was pushed initially by the Tokugawa Shogunate as a means of consolidating control and dissuading peasant/daimyo uprisings against the state, and the current Japanese statutes are in essence a modern continuation of that policy.

>>31463306
I thought that was hideyoshi?

>>31462789
Compare the number of blacks in Chicago to Russia. You got checkmated.

>>31462563
Nations without 48 million blacks

>>31463187
Like in Paris last year, right?

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>>31460719
Its not to stop crime, its purpose is to turn the population into cattle that can't fight back which has worked.

>>31464702
>Cambodia banned guns and disarmed the intellectuals

But I thought gun bans didn't work?

>>31460719
I've said this a few times now, why don't they just ban crime, then surely no one will do any more crimes because they will get in trouble.

>>31462175
>one post by this ID

>>31460719
>tfw when
>that feel when when

>>31464702
DELETE THIS

>>31464767
They don't work for criminals. The law abiding people will hand them over

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>>31464767
Trying it in America would spit this nation apart.

The American government, lacking tax revenue, would become a joke.

Losing control over it's nuclear deterrence would be especially painful for the American government to bear, it wouldn't have a leg to stand on internationally if it cannot tax it's people and defend it's self effectively.

I doubt those things would come to pass, considering power is nice and spread out among the many members of congress, the way it should be.

>>31464959
What do you have to say about the "theory" that the government is chipping away at our rights as slowly as possible to the point that we don't even realize that we lost our rights?

The government wants our guns banned and they'll do anything if it means joe schmo has one less bullet in his clipazine

>>31464928
>delete this
Why?!? U mean the alphabet agents r bout to git us?

>>31462799
>be a cop
>expect not to deal with criminals

>be a pussy cop
>kill people that are too brown or that scare me
>literally cry on stand in court to tell everyone how scared i was

>repeat it all tomorrow

>>31464978
We will reverse them, and it will set them back years.

>>31465001
>tfw permanent resident and can't vote for anything
>tfw only thing I can do to support muh guns is give money to the NRA-ILA and educate people on gun topics

I just want to help America-kun maintain his rights :'(

>>31462175
"We should get rid of writing, people will eventually stop communicating. It's the only way to get rid of trolling."

>>31465014
Well at least you're trying.

>>31465073
The one nice thing about being a pro-gun non-American is that people tend to give my arguments the time of day because I guess I don't look like what they perceive to be the """gun nut""" that they expected.

>>31463224
>Nah I've never been to Brazil. It'd be cool to go
If you ever decide on visiting it, here's a tip: Stay away from Rio. That shithole is not worth the risk for the tourist attractions.

>>31464985
They're triggered

>>31462175
>Had enough of being shot at.
Tough shit, it's gonna happen even more in the future.

Gun control never means to control criminals, it only means to control good ppl. Anti-gunner know it much better than u, that is why they wont listen, they have to invent narrative to achieve their nasty goal.

>>31463187
>you'd rather be beaten to death than be shot
>guaranteed slow, painful death better than potentially quick and relatively painless death

Eurocuck detected.

>>31462175
>Had enough of being shot at.

Get a new job then. It's only going to get worse by the looks of it.

>>31465912
You're fucking retarded. Read what he wrote again. He's against gun control, dipshit.

Any time you create a new law, you create a vacuum for criminals to operate in.

>>31465961
Having a rough day?
I stand corrected nonetheless.

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>>31465014
>permanent resident
>applying for citizenship since march
>tfw not sure if I'll get it in time for the election

>>31466440
I dont get to apply for citizenship until July of next year. Feelsbadman.

>>31463291
>then why ban guns
1. Because we can.
2. It feels good.

>then how can someone esle have that responsiblty
Because it single man vs corporation. Corporation is more efficient (economy of scale and labor division all that). You don't build your own cars or computers from the ore don't ya?

>>31466776
Hate it to break it to you but corps dont care about anything other than money pal

>>31466799
Welcome to theory of government and state (stationary bandit and all that, well actually they care about prosperity of their livestock, it is good for business and it is better to have livestock with horns cut off)