http://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/mos t-popular-guns-in-americ

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>>31353763
>http://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/most-popular-guns-in-america/

>Targeting the facts

And shooting them dead too, apparently.

>For those who don't know, a revolver is a pistol with revolving chambers that allow multiple shots to be fired without reloading.

It's subtle, but you can tell they're trying to scare people who know fuck-all about guns with the way they word this shit. Same thing with the other guns they picture. "AY DID U KNO THAT LE AURORA SHOOTER USED A GUN JUST LIKE THIS ONE WHEN HE KILLED ALL THOSE PEOPLE?! SPOOKY! *Not this exact model though :^)"

>>31353865
Just to add, this sounds like absolute bullshit:

>While the Taurus 605 and the Taurus 85 were the bestselling new revolvers on GunBroker.com in September 2015, the Colt Python was the bestselling used revolver.

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>get as much stuff wrong as possible

>>31353763
You know, I was going to beat off, but now I'm just incredibly flaccid.

There needs to be some way to hold news organizations liable for publishing blatantly erroneous crap.

>>31353763
>miscellaneous firearms
>pistol grips
>"Pistol grips, like the UTAS UTS-15 Tactical Shotgun seen here, are firearms with handles that look like the butt of a pistol."

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>31353865
>not unlike this one

>>31353802

I keked.

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>>31353953
Fuckin hell
An 308 bolt action AR15!

>>31353991

>built on the ar15 platform

Doesn't ruger even specifically state in their own product literature that it was built off the existing ruger American action?

>>31353802
first post best post

>>31353763
>click website on mobile
>9 different ads and clickbait articles pop up
i regret giving these mucrackers page revenue

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Guys oh fuck oh FUCK I'm having a stroke

>>31353763
Whenever it shows up on Facebook most of the comments at least recognize the article as propaganda.

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>>31353936
There is
> rope and lamp posts
Soon we will have our chance Anon, for now just keep making lists

>>31354121
>he can't afford a solid gold receiver
Get a load of this poorfag

>>31353991
I almost had a stroke reading this

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>Semi-automatic shotgun

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>>31353953
>>31353991
Holy shit.

>>31354156
Every day I hate /pol/ a little less.

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Guys I'm not okay guys. I don't even know what to say or do. I'm feeling sick

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>>31353991
>>31354121
>>31354279

Do they not have a fact checker or anything, or do they just have their interns do all the fucking work?

>>31354708
>Do they not have a fact checker or anything, or do they just have their interns do all the fucking work?

The interns ARE the fact checkers anon

>>313537

Hure durr, ban the assault clips.

>Colt Python
>One of the best-selling revolvers of 2015
That's funny, because the entire Snake line ceased production a decade and a half prior.

>>31353865
That is Australia-tier insidious.

>>31353936
As stupid as it is, it's their right to purposefully get the wrong info out, just like it's our right to own firearms and call them retards.

>>31353763
they think guns are magic :(

In all seriousness here. Is there a way we can make this better? Can we fix this without an infantile shitstorm of fuckery focused at CBS?

>>31354869
Not really unless the media just eats itself alive. Jimmy Fallon apparently still has a show, and had Trump on it last night. Because he didn't sit there and either attack him or passive aggressively make fun of Trump the whole time the media is calling him a Trump fanboy and a whole bunch of other ridiculous shit.

We're at the point entertainers literally can't be nice to people that are somewhat conservative/pro 2A unless they want to be attacked by their own fans.

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>>31353763
>When will it end, lads?
Never.

>>31353763
>Pistol grips, like the UTAS UTS-15 Tactical Shotgun seen here, are firearms with handles that look like the butt of a pistol.
> Forward pistol grips are currently restricted under the National Firearms Act.
What am I reading

>>31354810
All sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.

>>31354121
Just fuck my shit up

>>31355146
That refers to technology beyond our own, kind of like how if you showed people from 100 years ago tech from today they'd shit themselves. We know how guns work and have schematics and manuals and all that shit to show how they operate. Publishing shit like in OP's post is just willful retardation.

>>31355106
Pistol grips=pistol anon, don't you know

>>31355236
But they use the UTS as an example
I don't understand, anon.
I don't understand

>>31353763
>misc.
>pistol grip firearms
>UTS-15 has an 18.5in barrel, smooth bore, was intended to be fired from the shoulder

it's a shotgun

they couldn't even take 5 minutes to look up what the ATF definitions mean so instead they just made it up.

>Interestingly enough, some household tools also have pistol grips. That's why the word "gun" appears in the titles of glue guns, caulking guns and nail guns.

Holy fukc I didn't even readfar enough in that one fact. I done been triggered.

>>31354804
Fiction should be published in the fiction section.

>>31355236
No friend, you're wrong

Pistol grips = misc. guns

AR- misc.
AK- misc.
handguns- misc
my ultrasound transducer- misc, when you go to med school, you can't start until after you get your AOW stamp for it

>>31353763

This is a paid advertisement by Kel-Tec to make people think they're a real company that makes things, isn't it?

>>31355315
>PMR30 most popular of some month
>sub2k as an AR alternative
>something something PF9
>KSG GTAIV

HOLY SHIT, youre right!

>>31355297
Does this mean I have to be certified to use Windex since some bottles have pistol grips?

>>31355315
More likely the writer's only source was a Kel-Tec fanboy.

>>31355474
You need a stamp for it or you're going to jail

>>31355474
Yeah.
It was a bitch going through the red tape to get my selectable spray/stream nozzle.

>M&P Shield
>Dylan Klebold used a 9mm semi-automatic handgun, not unlike this one
>Dylan used a Tec-9

>>31354121
>Guys oh fuck oh FUCK I'm having a stroke
You're a Big Boy

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>>31353763

I had a friend who tried throwing articles like this in my face back when sandy hook happened.

>Sends me a link to some clickbait article about how ARs are too deadly for home defense use
>Goes on a tangent about "rednecks" and other shit
>Him: See I told you man. The data is all there.
>Explain that their data includes suicides and police shootings and that AR usage in homicides is even less than hammers or unarmed killings
>Him: Bullshit, where's your proof?
>Link him straight to the FBI stats and he gets butthurt and calls me "Murrican" and says he just want to save lives while I play with toys
>Asked me for help last year after we stopped talking for help picking out a gun because some houses around his area got broken into

I had to stop using Facebook for a while because he and a bunch of other people just kept posting shit from news sites and asking me to refute it every five fucking minutes I was on. I think I lost about 30 "friends" on there when it was all over because I got tired of everyone's shit.

>>31355523
2 stamping while cleaning my windows

>>31355580
>Asked me for help last year after we stopped talking for help picking out a gun because some houses around his area got broken into
You told him to get an AR, right?

>>31354279
>they didn't mention spooky lever action shotguns
>not mentioning Cali approved single shots

Odd

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>>31355651
I actually did, but he was still fucky about them and told me he didn't need "excessive firepower" or something like that. He also didn't want a shotgun, so I recommended him some pistols and I don't know what he got since he stopped talking to me again after I recommended him shit, but towards the end he said he wanted a smaller gun and was looking at some subcompact 9mm despite me telling him it would be snappier than a bigger pistol and the capacity is shite.

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It's not ignorance, folks. It's ideologically orchestrated malice. It's 'the truth is whatever I say it is as long as we all say it together.'

That's modern progressivism. That's your enemy.

>>31355507

why do those exist

>>31353763
>"shows picture of over-under shotgun calling it a semi-automatic"
>implying it's not

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>>31355813
>"It was designed to protect a government against the anarchy of the masses."

This is the type of person that would have supported Britain during the revolutionary war.

>>31355902
Maybe by the worthless definition of "fires repeatedly by pulling the trigger". There is no automation in ejection, feeding, or firing.

>>31353802
10/10

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>>31355949
That's the kind of person that predominates in big cities all over the country. They're fucking sheep.

>>31354708
They have fact checkers for the dates, names, and locations of the murders.

For the guns? No of course not, they're all the same level of terrifying and evil what more do you need to know?

>>31353763

> It's basically a larger version of the Henry Golden Boy with a solid brass receiver, instead of a gold one.

FUUUUCK I MISSED OUT ON HENRY'S RUN OF SOLID GOLD RECEIVERS AGAIN

>>31356344
You couldn't afford them, anyway.

>>31354708
>Do they not have a fact checker or anything, or do they just have their interns do all the fucking work?

> “All these newspapers used to have foreign bureaus,” he said. “Now they don’t. They call us to explain to them what’s happening in Moscow and Cairo. Most of the outlets are reporting on world events from Washington. The average reporter we talk to is 27 years old, and their only reporting experience consists of being around political campaigns. That’s a sea change. They literally know nothing.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/08/magazine/the-aspiring-novelist-who-became-obamas-foreign-policy-guru.html

>>31356379

>thinking the media cares about (((facts)))

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>>31356344
Stay cucked po boy

>>31355580

This is why I'm glad I stopped at myspace, never made a facebook.

I'm ready for death.

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>It's basically a larger version of the Henry Golden Boy with a solid brass receiver, instead of a gold one.

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>Pistol grips, on the other hand, are slightly more intimidating...

Por Que?

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>>31353763

What the red motherfuck?

>>31356829
Good foresight. I "deactivated" mine but they don't let you ever permanently delete it. Gotta hang on to every scrap of data they can get. Forever.

>>31355783
Every goddamn time.
>What gun should I get, anon? I'm not going to listen to your advice at all, just parrot a bunch of fuddlore and waste your fucking time.

>>31361838

It's not just guns. Shit happens with anything really. People really just want an "expert" to back them up. They don't really want advice. they want to feel smart. I deal with this shit with electronics all the time.

>friend has computer problems/wants new electronics/phone whatever
>asks me for help
>Usually indicates that they're thinking about stupidly expensive shit
>show them to multiple options at much better price points than they were initially looking at usually with much higher quality
>Ignores all my advise and buys stupid expensive shit
>3 months later inevitably has problems and states they should have listened to me

They never do though. Rinse repeat the next time they need something they fuck up again.

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>Starter guns are used to signal the start of certain sporting events, like swimming meets and track and field races. Pistol grips, on the other hand, are slightly more intimidating...
>slightly more intimidating
>intimidating
I am dumbfounded by the stupidity in this article

>>31361901
Same thing with cars too.
>Had a friend ask me to come with him to look at cars.
> tell him not to tell the salesman exactly your budget or that you need something today.
>also tell him makes and models to stay away from
>immediately tells the salesman that their car broke down and that they have about $10,000
>I leave
>ends up paying $9500 for a 2003 dodge stratus with 70,000 miles on it.

You're a fucking idiot Nate.

>>31360418
You have to call them or some shit, I remember my wife doing it when her great uncle died.

On an M&P sheild

>Dylan Klebold used a 9mm semi-automatic handgun, not unlike this one, during the massacre at Columbine High School in 1999. Two 9mm caliber semi-automatic pistols were also used in December 2015's shooting in San Bernardino, California.

>>31362176
In a few years they'll be saying

>"Guns, like this glock, fire bullets using smokeless powder, just like the one used in the Orlando nightclub shooting. Smokeless powder doesn't create a large cloud of smoke when fired, allowing shooters to keep their position concealed more easily."

Mark my fucking words.

they even admit more guns are manufactured a year than all the murders in the past decade

we need some journalism reform, no clickbait sideshows with no fact checking

in fact, we need to get rid of the first ammendment. its been used by people like piers morgan, malcom x, jihadist imams, and BLM

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>>31355547
A tec-9 Mini (No shoulderthing that goes up). But the TEC-9 was demonized when it was still available for being an (((assault pistol))) by the (((media))) for being affordable and widely available. Intratec got lawsuits up the ass and stopped making them in 2001. Because of that, they've moved on to dEmonizing all semi-autos and only showing the ones that look scary.

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>>31353763

>be subscribed to field & stream, a couple other outdoors/gun rags on facebook
>also a few gun manufacturers
>love to hunt, fish, and shoot
>cringe at all the fuddlore/bad info morons spew in comment sections
All these old fudds who are in their 50s talking out their ass

>>31354761
Well she at least put "used" in there, so she at least probably got one thing right.

>>31362273
Why would you want to use a pump action mode when Semi-auto does the same thing except without the pumping?

>>31362443
Dunno but there are some other italian shotguns that have this function

>>31362443
Not all ammo (especially low-pressure rounds) will cycle reliably in semi-autos. The optional pump-action eliminates that issue.

>>31362273

It was also demonized, and I think mainly, because the early tec-9 could be VERY easily converted into a fully automatic weapon by gangs. So it was cheap, and could be converted into a fully automatic weapon. The exact number used by gangs I don't know, but Intratec quickly fixed the issue and made it so it was no easier to convert to full auto than any other weapon.

However, the damage was done. The tec-9 was the new "gangland violence weapon" and just like brass knuckles or switchblade knives was banned because of fear and ignorance. Seriously, the tec-9 is banned by name in almost every "assault weapons ban" to this day, despite having fallen almost completely out of favor and being much more rare.

>>31362550
doesn't the tec-9 also have a lot of performance problems? Like, it's not even a particularly good gun, from what I've heard.

>>31353763
TIL a pistol grip is a type of gun.

>>31362560
Anon, look at it.

It's blowback operated cheap piece of shit that only got popular because it looked "cool" and could be easily converted to full-auto.

>>31362560
It's only designed to work with 115 grain ball ammo.

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>>31361932
>You're a fucking idiot Nate.

Why are Kel-Tec Sub 2000 so popular?
They aren't hunting calibre.
Is it because they look like Stormtrooper Space weapons?

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They aren't even fucking trying are they? I can go get an actual picture of one of these on my damn lunch break

>>31354804
>it's their right to purposefully get the wrong info out

The first amendment was a mistake.

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>>31355567

.44you

>>31363397
But violent video games cuase violence and they imitate the violence they see in video games with real guns and WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN?

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>>31356829
don't own a facebook twitter myspace or whatever my fellow youngos are doing these days.

I did make a facebook talk through an alias to some old mil buddies and buy some things and later sell those things.

>>31361838

Fucking this.

> and then the noguns CoD fag will go on to tell me I'm wrong about my advice because of a select fire version of the guns performance in a videogame.

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>>31361838
I have another gun one I remembered.

>Friend really interested in guns
>Take him shooting a few times and he loves it
>Asks to bring his gf next time and I say sure
>She complains about fucking everything
>Makes a few quips about the military and "salt wepunz" and throws a penis joke in too
>Whatever
>Friend really interested in getting his own guns
>Recommend him some small stuff to start
>He finds a really cheap Marlin bolt action .22 rifle
>Check it out for him and it's in pretty good condition/shoots pretty good
>Girlfriend protested but gave in eventually and even she likes shooting it
>Friend wants to get something bigger
>Really wants an AR after trying mine
>His gf goes so nuclear that Solid Snake would come out with birth defects
>This was about the time Aurora happened
>She starts feeding him all the articles and shit online about how dangerous they are
>Try and steer friend the right way and show him statistics and stuff to counter it
>"Sorry man, I think she might be right, it's kinda dangerous to have."
>He keeps his .22 but buys nothing else
>Still goes to the range with me sometimes and has fun shooting my AR
>Can tell he still wants one
>But there's no happy ending
>He stuck with her and married her like two years ago
>Told me she wants him to get rid of his old Marlin before they have a baby and offered it to me

Fuck me, my soul hurts now.

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>>31353763
You guys have been emailing CBS about how their NEWS in their NEWS article is FALSE and RETARDED and all those involved should be sacked.

>>31363438
I needed that

Cycle the action with no extractions

>>31363372
Because they're handy, cheap, light, and fold into nothing.

>>31363516
I have a similar story

I have another gun one I remembered.

>Friend really interested in guns
>Take him shooting a few times and he loves it
>Asks to bring his gf next time and I say sure
>She complains about fucking everything
>Makes a few quips about the military and "salt wepunz" and throws a penis joke in too
>Comes to the range anyways
>Shoot her in the stomach
>Drag her to the shallow grave I dug nearby
>Friend is freaking out
>Pull out a brand new AR with a read bow on it
>Give it to buddy
>We bury her alive and get some brews
>Realize that woman are not necessary and suck eachother off

Good day.

>>31354279
>Technically double barrels are semi automatic

>>31363537
Define handy

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>>31363516
Women are not into men who cuck the fuck out and let them walk all over them.
When will guys fucking learn this ancient truth

>>31363571
Unfortunately, my friend is kinda beta. He's kinda timid too. But he's still my friend and I tried. I even tried talking to her about it a few times and explaining how guns aren't nearly as bad or scary as all those media sources make them out to be, but she wouldn't listen.

>>31363550
kek. The worst part about it is that she's not even a bad person. She's actually pretty likable and pleasant to be around but goes 100% sperg mode when guns are mentioned.

>>31353763
>Durr durr columbine guy used a gun not unlike the M&P

THE FUCKING M&P DIDN'T EXIST, DON'T BLAME IT FOR SHIT A FAGGOT DID WITH A GLOCK..

>>31355813
>This Tea Partier has it backwards
>States a completely backward interpretation of the 2nd amendment

LA-LA-LA-LA-LAAAA

>>31363571
There are plenty of women who are into exactly that.

>>31363616
Be his fucking friend and tell him to stop being a pussy.
After all, friends don't let friends get cucked(unless you're into that sort of thing).

>>31354156
Fuckin saved.
Or we just go Turner Diary route.
>guns and 'nades.

>>31363571
Do you even know about BDSM and fetish culture bro?

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>>31363571

>>31362560
Well, on the one I owned briefly, the sights were ass, the barrel was terrible, and the extractor was held in with a set screw.

What the hell are they talking about with the shoulder thing that goes up?

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>>31364199
DELETE THIS!

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>>31364260
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ospNRk2uM3U

Google is your friend, anon.

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>>31364170
only enough to be dangerous.

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>>31362260
>Get rid of the first amendment
Nice try MechaHitler

>>31364280
A barrel shroud is the shoulder thing that goes up? that doesn't make any type of sense its not even close to the shoulder

>Kel-Tec
>Most popular in any time period
I fucking swear they make like 15 guns a year, how can any of them become the most popular model?

>>31355783
shouldve taken him shooting

>>31354156
>things that will never ever happen

>>31355890
Because like it or not Kel-Tec makes novel shit.

It's not particularly good shit, but it's different and thus interesting.

>>31355315
Kel-Tec does sell an assload of their pocket guns

using gunbroker really skewed the results

basically, they managed to get a list of the guns where demand outstrips supply instead of the guns with the highest production numbers or sales

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>>31363553
Technically they're not since there's no rounds cycling. Sure you can fire it twice without cocking it, but that does not a semiautomatic weapon make.

>>31364714

>most popular
>according to gunbroker

that's how. This dumb bitch is trying to say that the guns that sell well on fucking gunbroker is somehow representative of the most popular guns. She states very clearly that there is no way to actually tell what models of guns sell the best.... only what type of guns are produced the most according to ATF. everything else, she just went by top sellers on gunbroker.

>lrn2read

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Can somebody explain what they are trying to refer to by "Pistol grips"? They mean a shotgun without a buttstock, right?

Or are they referring to some kind of short barrel shotgun with a pistol grip and a forward vertical grip?

>>31366038
They don't even fucking know what they're trying to refer to.

There's one thing I take away from this.

I am honestly amazed that this sort of "scare culture" doesn't exist with cars, cuz fucking no one knows how those work either.

>>31364543

To be fair it's doubtful she even has a full understanding of what a barrel is. That's about the only way you could get that so totally and completely wrong.

>>31366245
That's because there is no major group trying to ban cars.

> Captcha is "Select all the cars"
Every time

>>31366245
>thinks cars need some sort of nitrus injection or "turbo"
I bet you support parallel parking too.

>>31364287
[muffled get out of here stalker]

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>>31366245
> A "Racing car" is used by teenage boys, who can simply use the "Car show loophole" to buy a car like this capable of going at speeds up to and over 150 miles per hour to participate in dangerous speed races at night that endanger civilians and frequently result in deaths
> Nobody needs to go at 150mph. We're just calling for common sense car regulation, like in Europe. Each day hundreds of Americans die in car accidents - how many more must die before we see sense?
> An "Assault truck" can kill up to 100 people at once and is equipped with bulletproof doors and windows to block police bullets. An assault truck like the one in the picture was used in a terror attack to kill hundreds of people in France

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>>31366625
The hell there isn't.
>MUH GREENHOUSE GASES
>>31366626
>>31366699
The only reason I even say it is because not everyone fully understands how they work. There are people who would believe me if I said a Helsinki smash-rod, bumper return spring or turn signal actuator were a thing.

The only difference between cars and guns is that numerous cars are seen by the average North American human every day. They still fucking murder more people in a week than guns do, despite having federally-mandated safety equipment and rules for operation. When you bring this up to a gun-hating libfag, all you get is
>Hurr they weren't designed to kill people tho
And yet they still do.

>>31366245
People try to scare you off motorcycles like they do with guns. It's not as bad as with guns, but if you ride you'll often get all the "Why do you need something that goes that fast?" and links to articles/videos anytime someone bites it on a motorcycle. And then you get one or two assholes that got tired of losing every gun debate trying to campaign for motorcycle limits/bans/running motorcyclists off the road and committing murder because they're mad about lane splitting instead.

>>31366837
>>Hurr they weren't designed to kill people tho
>And yet they still do.

I find that to be a good comeback/zinger that'll stop people who are shit at debating from aggravating you. Just say "So devices that aren't meant to kill are responsible for many more deaths than devices that ARE meant to kill, and you want to ban these?" And if they try to bring up how many cars are in the US, just bring up the number of guns.

>>31353763
Who wrote this shit?

>>31355813
>Apaches vs Taliban
You mean the forces we withdrew and the force that's still a power in Afghanistan?

>>31366245
Never heard of Hooning?

>>31369085
I've never really seen that type of shit much at all here, but holy fuck have Australians gone full fucking retard on vilifying car culture and bitching about "hooning"

>>31368320
No, its a Deadliest Warrior episode. Apaches, the fierce, mounted warriors of the plains who terrorized America into the 1920's. Versus the Taliban, a fundamentalist Islamist group that forcibly took control of Afghanistan and paved the way for the September 11th terrorist attacks on the united States.

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>>31363397
While I'm not sure if Kel-Tec beat out any of the regulars,
I do want to point out that kids don't actually get their morals from the games they play.

>>31369337
>He doesn't go into random people's homes and break all their shit looking for rupees
This is why nobody takes you seriously Pajeet.

>>31353802
>be me
>go to link

Number 1: Pistols

>here we fucking go

>revolvers are evil
>double barrels are evil
>bolt action .308s are evil
>pump action shotguns are evil
>Lever action rifles are evil

>>31354286
Is that Tobuscus?

>>31356379
HES A FUCKING JEW I KNEW IT

>>31354024
>built on
>built off
wat

>>31354087
>on mobile
maybe get a real computer?

I like how they use grand theft auto as an example. Did they not know you can dial a number on your phone and get an attack helicopter beamed to you?

>>31356379
>a sea change
... says Ben Rhodes, a man with no maritime
experience, who doesn't hesitate to manipulate
those 27 year-old reporters in order to deceive
the public about Administration dealings.

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>>31363397
B-b-but CBS, the KSG wasn't even IN GTA IV. That's also clearly a higher what appears to be a model straight out of Cowadooty Black Cops II. The KSG was in GTAV, they could have used that for the image. Just....

Just....

I think I just had a hemorrhage.

>>31362260
OH OH OH. Malcom X?! Really your going to group the only decent leader during the civil rights movement (minus him being a muslim) in with the rest of that salvo of diariah.

The man demanded people to take up arms and defend their homes. He told people to work hard and earn their place in life. Sure he was about self segregation, but whats wrong with not being around something I don't like?!

Read a fucking book prior to 1994 you cock sucking, malaria ridden, ebola contaminated third world fuck trophy of a dip shit.

>>31363397
>Clearly pervasive
I hardly ever see that fucking thing unless I specifically look for it

>not a single AR or AK
what in the flying fuck
those are a) babykilling gun #1 and b) terrorist gun #1

how do you not include those

>>31353953
>>31353991
>>31354121
>>31354279

Holy fuck. Someone compile this. It needs to live forever in the hall of gungrabber fails.

>>31353763
your daily reminder that guns are used to murder 15000 people a year and you fags are literally paying the arms industry to make your streets more dangerous. kill yourselves pls

>>31370854
Low quality bait.

1/10 made me respond.

>>31370854
I tried, but the CA legal AR I was using wouldn't allow me to point the gun at myself while simultaniously pulling the trigger. Not to mention because I'm fat the reduction in bullet capacities of the CA legal firearms, the paramedics got there before I could actually be dead.

Essentially the new CA legal AR saved my life to my disappointment.

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>>31370902
>the CA legal AR I was using wouldn't allow me to point the gun at myself while simultaniously pulling the trigger.

>>31354804
No it's not. That is illegal to do that and known as libel. They can however not tell the entire truth or partial truths.

>>31356278
>reagan poisom
>ignoring the 1986, 1989, and brady bill gun bans

Reagan did some good, but fuck did he shit on gun owners like no other president, basically paved the way for the assualy weapons ban.

>>31364170
Do you even know the women who sre into that? They are mostly SJW types or bleeding hearts. I understand its a fetish and shouldn't be a reflection of the type of persom you are, but in this case it fucking is.

>>31371024
That's not what libel is at all. Libel is when they do it an it damages a person's reputation.

We're talking about times where they claim to be giving facts but are just plain wrong. For example if they were to print an article claiming that Cougars are strict herbivores, or that Chicago has the lowest murder rate in the developed world.

There is a fine line to walk here, but their should be effort undertaken to enforce a separation between news and fiction.

>>31371244
My apologies, I should have fact checked the definition. I do remember my attorney father telling me this though.

The they can spin that is by qouting a study out of context.

For example the full text said "when the scientist only fed the test cougar vegan products, it became a strict herbavore."

Or

"When the city of chicago was being bombed in the great canadian war, it temporarily had the lowest rate of murder in the developed world"

Yes it is bullshit, yes the loophole that allows for partial truths is huge fucking issue that needs to be resolved because people trust the news out of ignorance (the literal definition of ignorance, not out of stubborness although some do). The only solution is to tell people not to trust the media but the only way to do so would be through media.

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>>31371316
Sorry for the stroke tier grammar errors, on my phone.

>>31362273
Doesn't Franchi make the SPAS 12?
And FIE cheap Iver-Johnson like revolvers?

>>31370940
mordekaiser pls leave