Is there a single example in history where SOF from one significant

>>31322547

well-documented example*

>>31322547
Maybe Vietnam somewhere

Stalingrad?

If you count the snipers deployed specificially to counter other snipers, and then the enemy snipers deployed to counter the counter snipers.

>>31322547
Yes. Vietnam.

I don't know

try using Ask Jeeves

>>31322547
the fuck is he doin with that scope mount? this is fake right?

>>31322679

He can probably still ou tshoot you even with his backwards scope mount

>>31322692
This. Is it more likely that:
>he doesn't know what he's doing
>he did it that way for some purpose that suits him

Have some common sense, anon.

>>31322679

Mounting the scope exactly where he wants it?

Didn't US SOF engage the Soviets in Afghanistan?

>>31322547
In Cambodia during the Vietnam War, the NVA started training special units specifically to counter MACV-SOG. On one recon mission, a MACV-SOG Recon patrol was ambushed by this unit, who sprung out from camouflage in front of their pointman and used martial arts to take his weapon and shoot him with it point blank.
The incident is mentioned in Plaster's book. They were suspected to have been from an Airborne-trained unit

>>31322547
pure speculation but the SAS conducted so many raids in WW2 that I wouldn't be surprised if they fought German SF.

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bump for extreme interest in subject

>>31322547
War in Donbass, a high percentage of Russian Troops are part of 'spetsnaz' units.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Forces_of_Ukraine#War_in_Donbass

>>31323153
no, never

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>>31322625
>MACV-SOG gets btfo by patrols from a logistical division

>>31323371
I can hear the reports being blacked out with sharpie right now.

>>31322547

US rangers fighting the Iraqi Republican guard probably counts.

>>31322547
no coz US keeps loosing

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Battle_of_Donetsk_Airport

Supposedly Ukrainian Spetsnaz vs Russian Spetz forces in the Battle for Donetsk Airport (supposed)

>>31323262
>special units

because you need ninjas with martial arts training to deal with the half-assed American SF infiltration attempts into the ho chi minh trail

the ho chi minh trail was guarded by a logistical unit

Only thing I can think of

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skirmish_at_Top_Malo_House

>>31322547
South African, Rhodesians, Portuguese sometimes had to deal with communist special forces advisors like Cubans or Russians embedded with various sponsored rebel groups.

According to the wikipedia page on Russian Commando Frogmen, Russian divers fought off South African divers (presumably with underwater firearms/spearguns) in Africa while running security.
>(date unknown): Soviet frogmen protected a USSR trade commission who were visiting a place on the coast of Africa. They saw, fought against and drove off a group of six or eight South African combat frogmen in an underwater battle. There were no deaths.
If this is true, then it is badass.

>>31324508
That's some Arma 3 shit I'll tell you what

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>>31324589
I always imagined it with the Soviets carrying those funky underwater firearms (APS underwater rifles and SPP-1 underwater pistols) and wearing full wetsuits like in this picture (these dudes are in the fucking Arctic Ocean). I imagine the Saffers as wearing those 70s wetsuits that with short sleeves and short legs, carrying spearguns. It's a cool thought.

>>31323437
Had the same thought

>>31323808
Is it bad I'm joining Azov battalion for a handful of months?

>>31323808
(claimed by Ukraine)
shoving billiards balls up your ass in the woods does not mean valid proof

>>31323808
>Somalia Battalion
....

>>31322679
He's far sighted.

>>31324905
Yes. You will lost your legs and president of Ukraine will give you soccer ball as reward.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fcdmq6Qv_Cc

>>31322547
Didn't GRU spetnaz get into a firefight with Ukrainian intelligence SF a while ago?

>>31325477
Good.

>>31324905

It is. Enjoy being a cannon fodder at the hands of incompetent commanders and corrupt politicians.

>>31322547
There was quite a lot of conflict between SASR, some SBS and SAS against the As Saiqa Republican Guard division in western Iraq in 2003
The Iraqi's put up a fairly fierce fight when contacted and where quite aggressive in trying to locate them- they did suffer extremely badly though in terms of losses. Lot of the survivors ended up as insurgents after the Iraq defeat and disbandment, so they where quite a motivated force.

>>31325354
Considering Russia denies they're anywhere in Ukraine I think it's pretty reasonable to believe the Ukrainian reports.

>>31323461
I fought republican guard units in 03', and they were shit, just like every Iraqi I emgaged.

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>>31323418
>logistics division suffers 500 KIA in a 2 hour long blue on blue incident after said MACV SOG RT lit a few M80s in your camp at night

>>31323342

SF wasn't a thing back then. The brits basically pioneered what we know as SF today, back in WW2 with the SAS. The germans didnt have an answer to them directly.

>>31324663
reminder that russia maintains chemical/boiling water protected diving suits and knife proof diving suits

>>31326052
>what are brandenburgers
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandenburgers

Falklands - and the British annihilated them.

>>31324508
Speaking of frogmen, one of the going theories about what happened to Buster Crabb is that he swam into a group of his Soviet counterparts guarding the cruiser while it was moored. When they realized he was working alone, they cut him up and dumped him.

>>31326126
Buster just defected

>>31326085

I will shut my mouth and consider myself proven wrong.

Serb SOF engaged SAS in Kosovo. SAS was deeply within Serb territory, paiting targets.

>>31323437
>>31324783

It is kinda weird how easy it is to hear

>>31322547
During the East Timor Crisis Australian SASR engaged pro Indonesian Militia who were probably assisted by Kopassus

>>31323153
Only in Siphon Filter 3.

>>31326265
That was CIA/NSA, not SOF in the game.

>>31326289
He was an Army Ranger in the Afghanistan mission.

>>31323153
Probably not directly, but the Soviets would have been fools not to at least try and get rid of US advisors.

>>31326293
>top tier Ranger material
>instead of opting for Delta he goes to some bullshit secret squirrel agency

gay

>>31326312
He operated more than Delta would, plus when that game came out Delta wasn't as popular.

>>31322547
When the marines met the Iraqi Republican Guard.

>>31326323
>that kid who used to run in the Gabe Logan animation style
>that feel when that kid was me

>>31326342
>marines
>sof

>>31326351
I did it ironically, because it looked retarded, but I don't know people who did it seriously.

>>31322679
It is probably so he can put his scope far enough forward to shoot with NVGs on. Remember these guys do most of their killing at night.

>>31326052

This is straight up wrong.Soviet GRU was formed before WW II. Soviets had SOF in the Spanish Civil War, see "Ilya Starinov".

US also had Rangers pretty early on in one shape or another.

>>31326545
As much as I hate the limey fuckstain Brits, they were the ones who trained the first US Army Rangers as we know them now. Exceptions being, of course, Robert Rogers, etc.

>>31326342
Son, this is a thread about SOF not shit tier infantry vs shit tier infantry

>>31326657
Which Infantry were you in?

Didn't think so.

>>31326665
Doesn't fucking matter pussy. 60% of the marines don't even shoot people for a living.

>>31326676
>Doesn't matter

In other words, you have no idea WTF you are talking about.

>>31323153
In the 80s, there was one jihadist from Egypt who was in the US Army Special Forces who went to Afghanistan to fight alongside the jihadists in Afghanistan and brought back the belt of a dead Spetsnaz soldier. He was later arrested for working with al-Qaeda.

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>>31326665
You forgot the-
>huh nothing personal kid
At the end of your sentence

>>31322679
NVGs buddy. Gives enough room to look down the scope with em on

>>31326710
You forgot the
>I'm a limp dick civilian
at the end of your post.

>>31326665
>Post Marines in thread about SOF
>Get told where to walk
>Get butthurt and respond like a 14 year old /r/atheist with a sword collection
Huh, really made me think...

>>31326725
You seem you know a lot about limp dicks

>>31326725
thx..cervix, etc...

>>31324905

Spending time with Azov is an even worse way to waste your life than joining the Peshmerga

>>31322679
Not fake at all, that's MARSOC.

>>31326680
I'm a different person you know.

>>31324905
no you're not faggot

>>31326924

Do you have no sense of adventure?

>>31326052
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abwehr

Abwehr Section II

>>31324905

Quite possibly the worst decision of your life. I just discussed earlier this week with army officer that has served in OCEF motoring mission in Ukraine for years. Here are few things that he told about the situation:
1. Ukrainian volunteer units in general are very poorly equipped and trained. Azov Battalion supposedly has bit better reputation than most, but considering the opposite side is partially elite Russian units playing dress-up up, not an easy battle.
2. There is huge number of volunteers (both Ukrainians and foreign) being indicted for crimes in Ukraine at the moment - with charges reaching from invented bullshit and petty crime to war crimes.
3. Ukrainian Army is both incompetent and corrupt. Hence there have also been numerous cases in which volunteer units have been sent like lamb to slaughter.
4. At both sides of frontline the place is a corrupt shithole and massive humanitarian disaster. Only difference being that on government side they are at least claiming to try doing something on it.

If you go anyway, make sure that your name, contact info and info about your next of kin do not get listed in too many documents. There was a case in which name list of volunteer unit was apparently sold to separatists, after which separatists started making them calls "we know who you and what you are doing - do as we demand or we will sent guys to cut throats of your relatives that are back home".

>>31325774
top kek

>>31322547
An american gent of the SOF community NDed into our complex

Not sure if we would count for SOF (probably not) but whatever.

>>31325774
>making shit up to cover up the fact that MACV-SOG was a total failure in everything they tried to do

>>31326705

Have you read the book?

>>31324146
good find

>>31326725
>>31326680
>>31326665

Post CAC, now.

>>31326710
Igor will be the a field god with those baby wipes.

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>>31326725
You forgot
>I'm a POG

Spank you

>>31325477
>>31325547
>>31327114
>>31327773
So from what I got, this is a resounding GTFO

Pakistani Special Services vs Spetznaz in the Soviet-Afghan war

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>>31327913
>I don't know what Operation Tailwind or Ashtray II are
You should read a book sometime anon, you might learn something

>>31322547
The Rangers and SEALs allegedly squared off against Cuban special forces during the Invasion of Grenada. "Allegedly" because even though there was a large Cuban presence in the country and they did fight the US, the jury is out on whether they were all soldiers or civil engineers that were handed AKs because of Castro's partisan-boner.

>>31330988
>dozens of books written about the utter failure of MACV-SOG to achieve any of their military objectives
>tosses out a couple operation names to justify a bullshit made-up tale about MACV-SOG causing 500 enemy KIA via friendly fire

>>31330988
>operation tailwind as an example of success

that's like saying the germans won ww2 because they won some random skirmish somewhere in ukraine in the opening days

>>31326207
sauce?

>>31330645
> using the term pog instead of pogue.

I turned blue before you were born.

>>31330938

Doesn't count, fucking "Black Crane" - GRU walked them so bad it's not even funny. Also, Paki SOF =/= significant country SOF. Pakistan literally managed to lose and F-16 to a SU-24 (might have been some other, earlier equivalent, I dont remember for sure) that was out of ammunition after a bombing run. Or you mean this?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_for_Hill_3234

Would be surprised if you heard about the other one.

>>31333376
>Using pogue in place of pog
>As if they have the same meaning
>Getting upset when others do it right
Embarrassing. Id hate to see what you do with other homophones.

>>31324663

Thunderball was a cool movie.

>>31333442
Go back to the library. Military Joes are talking

>>31322619
Tfw nobody wants to counter counter counter counter snipe

>>31322547
maybe in vietnam if you buy into the theory that the soviets were doing a bit more then just training and supplying...im sure its happened now and then during ww2 and possibly some other shit..but we wont hear about it for decades.

>>31326065
Got my scuba license yesterday, tell me more about these Soviet contraptions. Are they deathtraps like old gas masks or are they actually still fully functional and available to civies?

>>31334203
This is only sort of relevant but during the Korean war the "North Korean MIG" 15s would preform strafing runs on downed MIG pilots shot down outside of their territory or in the ocean so that the Americans wouldn't discover a Russian pilot in a North Korean marked MIG. Soviet meddling with the use of gifted equipment, advisors pilots, sf, ect wasn't unheard of but never official as they where "neutral". So the possibility of US SF engaging Soviet SF in Vietnam, Korea, or other proxy wars is a possibility if never officially confirmed.

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>>31333772