Do we have any new info about that French army new standard rifle

The HK 416 won.

They say it did the best in drop testing.

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>>31310149
416 won

>>31310169
So they finally got the kinks out of the Hypnos

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>>31310149
416 won, but the FN sue that decision

>>31310185
>do not cut canopy within 3 inches of canopy frame

Did they have a problem with people doing this?

>>31310199
I think its for when people crash and get stuck and the door refuses to open, and then they get a shit ton of guys to cut the thing open with these huge saws

>>31310238
This makes sense.

I was going to say, "unauthorized personnel will be shot" would be a bit more snappy if you just have random people coming at it with a box cutter.

>>31310238
>>31310260
the reason is there are explosives for jettisoning the canopy around the frame

So why did they go with a non-bullpup rifle? Was it just because the SCAR and 416 were more available or something?

>>31310185
>just text warnings, no symbols
>only english readers can understand
>abu hajaar tries opening the canopy with a sledgehammer
>abu hajaar is no more

>>31313000
because the refugees are more familiar in handling AK's and not much bullpups.

>>31313143
>Natural Selection, brought to you by Lockheed Martin

>>31313000
Because memepups don't make good service rifles.

>>31313609
god damn the voice i read that with was perfect

>>31310149
One thing is for sure, the FAMAS is a horrible rifle. Probably the worse major service rifle in the last 4 decades barring the poo the loos shit.

>>31313000
Modularity and accessories.

>>31313943
Nah, you're full of shit.

>>31313943
Or not.

>>31310149
H&K won.
The already issued 416 and 417 are going standard in many SF units. The already issued SCAR are going into a small specialised unit linked to DGSE, especially combat divers.

>>31310185
Wrong, Beretta and the Humbert company (french equipment seller) are suing. FNH already have problems to deliver the 10 thousand mag58s the french army ordered.

>>31313000
Because after decades of using the famas the french army had all the time it takes to figure out bullpups are shit.

>>31313943
It's not though. It's a very accurate 5.56, well balanced, simple enough mecanically, not prone to jamming with the good ammo, and rugged enough to fire heavy rifle grenades with as much explosive as a fucking M72 LAW in it, namely the AC58.

Other than that yes controls are shit, reciprocating charging handle is shit, bigass carry handle is shit, non-USGI compatible magwell on the F1, awkward safe semi burst full controls, no modernisation to include picatinny rails except through additionnal parts, useless high firing rate, kinda mushy trigger because bullpup, ambidextrous through easy swapping of ejection port mechanism though not on the go, and cases ejecting very fast which may hurt you because delayed blowback.

Turning the Famas into a fine rifle is perfectly possible though, but not relevant in 2016.

However its general layout was an inspiration for several weapons manufacturers, latest being HS produkts with VHS 1 and 2.

The design choices made to build the Famas weren't good enough, that is true. The rifle is more of an engineer wet dream than a soldier's firearm, that is true. Is it a piece of shit like insas ? No, certainly not. Fuck you.

>>31310158
Underrated

>>31315603

Enlève ton voyage et mange un seau de merde

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>be french
>have indigenous rifle
>scrap it along with the last remains of your national pride
>adopt shitty german AR variant
>...
>Sacre bleu!

What are you gonna do if Germany and France will become enemies tomorrow? Fucking idiots

>>31315618
That google trad.

Tu crois quoi, je suis un vrai orchidoclaste.

>>31315635
Shot at them with our Verney Carron flashball.

>>31315635
The thing our dear socialists are widely renowned for : surrender and collaborate ;)

It's interesting to note though that Germany has specific laws banning the sales of weaponry to countries engaged in a war. Better hope that we never get into one then.

>>31315652
That's why H&K had to sold the machines to make G3s and MP5s :')

Ca va être drôle.

>>31315652
You really need a reality check. Socialists are no more responsible of the defeat, surrender and collaboration than the right-wingers and conservationists. "Maréchal, nous voilà !" and so on.

Want to blame someone for the defeat ? How about the inept staff officers who fought the ways wars were fought did not change since 1918 ?

>>31316564
Filthy socialist detected

>>31316564
>my knowledge of history only comes from state approved school books : the post

>>31315592
Blah blah blah , stop defending this pile of crap rifle. The FAMAS would jam all the time and it would fall apart since the French government never bought new rifles. It wasn't all due to design, the French just can't make a good rifle overall.

>>31317101
And that's coming from your vast experience shooting one, right?

>>31317125
I personally knew some FFL but granted they did get the hand me down FAMASs. It was them who complained about FAMAS. They were happy if they could just get it to fire.

>>31317147
>hand me down FAMAS
>in the US
>where only between 200 and 300 were imported
>where they are ultra prized collector items typically sold for 10k

Yeah, shut the fuck up.

>>31317101
>It wasn't all due to design, the French just can't make a good rifle overall.
Oh, you dumb moron

>>31317154
He means hand me down rifls when he was still in the FFL

Of course they don't work, they've been all beat to shit for 40 years and their blowback design won't work with SS109 because the round wasn't even invented yet when the rifle was adopted

>>31317154
FFL means French foreign legion in this case
>>31317157
Tell me how I am wrong and the FFL are not trashing their beloved FAMAS for good reason

>>31317154
>FFL
>US

K
Y
S

>>31310199
There are explosives in the frame to blow up the canopy in case it gets stuck during emergency ejection. The cutting could set them off.

Doesn't matter komrades. FAMAS is destined for scrap pile.


>French buying a german gun

This world is fucked.

>>31314804
>>31314907
You both have as much experience with the rifle as him so shut the fuck up. What is it with people on this board trashing/worshipping guns they've never handled?

>>31317393
Welcome to /k/

>>31317051
>petain
>socialist

>>31317071
>my history knowledge come from stormfront revisionists

>>31315635
To be fair delayed blowback actions have more inherent problems than gas operated.

>>31317176
>Tell me how I am wrong and the FFL are not trashing their beloved FAMAS for good reason
They're dumping it because it's old and limited interoperability, depending on how old it is.
The original design has nothing to do with it.

Also the Famas is still very much used, only particular units have switched to something else.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bBVLKJ5MgM

>>31315592
>Because after decades of using the famas the french army had all the time it takes to figure out bullpups are shit.
Wrong. The commies in running France shut down MAS. Not to mention the G2 that the Navy uses solved all of the issues, if the the French weren't a bunch of fucking poor fags, they'd would of have their other branches equipped with it.

>>31319297
MAS had been merged with GIAT, and GIAT seriously needed to be shut down though, it was your typical union-led state company with workers protesting 6 months a year to earn more money while working less hours. They are the reason why the Leclerc ended up becoming the most expensive tank in history, and the FAMAS G2 probably became the most expensive assault rifle as well.
This is what happens when a company has the monopoly on something : they drive up the cost at will.