Well, what the fuck /k/? i stopped looking for a scar 17 for

>>31309818
>are they REALLY that popular

>gun ownership at all time high
>this includes filthy rich faggots that buy Audemur and Cartier watches for fun because Rolex is for plebs
>when they ask gun store guys what the best rifle that the special forces guys use they wind up snatching up all the SCARs and HK MR556/MR762s they can find

It's like you're new to conspicuous consumption.

>>31309872
Or they're just between import cycles and FN is focusing in their military contracts...

Na, let's go with your idea.

>>31309818
FNH hasn't been producing or importing as many, most places have been out of stock or selling off their last of stock since around spring.
Not sure what the deal is at FNH, but that's the reason on top of election season approaching and prices gradually climbing/stock slowly dwindling.

Kind of regretting not buying a 16 for $2,300 back in early 2015 when I had the chance, too late now...

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>>31309912
>gun manufactured in the USA
>import cycles

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>>31309818
FN us selling them like hotcakes to governments all over the world.

>>31309931
The only all U.S. made SCARs are in SOCOM/JSOC hands.
16s/17s are still imported from Belgium in sporter config and then get converted to compliance in SC.

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>>31309818
Well a business can only stock so many $3000 guns considering sales will be low or slow.

>>31309951
You know nothing Jon snow

I know the pain OP, but I'm hoping by 2018 they'll be out there like rice in a Chinese restaurant. I'm buying other guns I want in the mean time.

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>>31309966
10 ak's will always sell faster than 10 scars, that is just the flow

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I used to never give a shit about Scar 17's because 'eh, too expensive and .308 is too expensive but when some dude let me shoot his 17 with a Geissele trigger a couple times. I was blown away from the little recoil it had.

They're incredible rifles. Probably the most advanced combat rifle on the market today alongside the KAC SR15.

>>31310008
The sad thing is that recoil that pushes forward to make it very short winds up crushing less expensive optics internals into sand.

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>>31309818
>i dont wanna buy used because i'm not fucking retarded or poor.

>mfw

>>31310008
this, made the mistake of shooting one and now want one but in 5.56. What really makes me interested is factory freefloat with 5min barrel changes with 1 tool

>>31310014
>The sad thing is that recoil that pushes forward to make it very short winds up crushing less expensive optics internals into sand.

To be fair, if I owned a $2,500 rifle that shoots .308 semi auto, I would use a higher end optic like a Night Force or US Optic. That recoil system is something else.

Doesn't the FAL have a reputation of battering optics as well?

>>31309818
Yes they're that popular, and yes FN is a retard and makes retardedly few a year.

Also, end of the year. Also, election year.

>>31310071
To be fair, the last time SCARs were plentiful was like 10 months ago. Been spotty on available since then.

>>31310020
>>31309818
Is buying used firearms not a good idea?
t.nofuns

>>31311370
Not if you're hoping to save money, because no one prices used guns lower than new ones by more than $10.

>>31311398
>Recently sold a G19 for $600
>Recently bought a G34 for $500

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>>31311398
>bought pic related basically new and 400 rounds of Silverbear for 1k
>sold the aftermarket for 400

Used market a best

>>31311453
Fuck, I've been buying milsurp too long.

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FN has always delivered commercial rifles in batches with long durations in between shipments.

This periodic dry spell is nothing new. It's only recently cause for panic due to the impending election and increased demand for the rifle itself.

>>31311484
>Newfags dont know what happened before summer started
This is like the fourth or fifth time its happened
At least we can still get mags this time.

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>>31311522

I remember five years ago feeling like I'd won the lottery after finding a gunshow dealer with 17S mags for less than $70.

Same for the original Geiselle triggers when they first released.

Were 17s once 1500-2000? Seems like the price has gone up darastically since its introduction

>>31309818
Who cares about that forward heavy grandpa gun, the MDR is coming out in 2 months.

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>>31311619

No. Brick and mortar MSRP used to run $27-2800. FN mil/leo pricing on 17S was $2500. There has always been reasonable demand for them and the market price simply fluctuates with supply.

>>31311577
Actual plate steel ones? nice
Shooting site makes a better trigger anyway

>>31311650
Hahaha that's a good one. I actually laughed.

>>31309818
>buying into le speciall farces meme

get a quality AR-10 and don't look back

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>>31311577
>>31311522
This shit bugs me, why didn't they just use FAL mags. Then they could use old stamps and sell a massive amount of mags on the market for FAL owners too.

>>31311956
>the quality .308 ARs are all at least as expensive, if not moreso

>>31311960
SCAR owners dont want that front lip
FAL owners dont want the side cutout.

>>31311968

there is a reason for that

pro-tip: they are better rifles

>>31311985
How many contracts has the SR25 been winning recently?
the DD?
I know, GAP must be winning them?
Surely LaRue.....

Wait, its just the HK and LMT rifles that are?

>>31312033
>small shops who are only semi-automated cannot compete with FNH for large scale military contracts
>this is an indication of quality as opposed to quantity

shocking, really

>>31310036
But why? 5.56 is kinda a waste of money in the SCAR and have you seen the cost of barrels?

>>31311956
That in itself would have it's own le speshul farces meme attached to it you cock mongler.

Still a solid suggestion though considering the price of a 17. May as well go KAC or LMT at that point

>>31311960
FAL mags aren't hard to come by, just expensive, like SCAR mags. So it really wouldn't help.

There would be 25 and 30 founders thanks to DSA though

>>31312076
>SCAR
>Special Operations Forces Combat Assault Rifle

the meme is literally built into the name, unlike "AR-10"

>>31312061

DD, Larue, KAC... these are not "small semi-automated shops" as you want to call them.

The types of contracts they are competing for are not "large scale" either.

>>31310008
If you own a $2500 semiauto 308 rifle, you're not going to put Vortex or Primary Arms glass on it.

>>31312156

they are compared to FNH, the largest small arms manufacturer in the world

>>31309818
The thread on /o/ is still up, why are you creating another thread?

>>31310071
>artificially driving up demand by lowering supply
>being retarded
Kek

>>31312108
Cool argument. Gonna ignore all the other shit SF uses that doesn't have SF in the name or are you just looking to argue

>>31312183

Which is still irrelevant when the CSASS contract calls for less than four thousand rifles.

>>31312237
He has to defend his purchase

>>31312232
>accuse .308 AR's of being a meme
>but only SCARfags constantly talk about le speshul farces rifle
>LMT/KAC/Larue/HK-417 owners never talk like that

it's ok, one day you can afford another moderately priced rifle.

>>31312214
Basically this.

>>31312233
What is the gun on the left?

>>31312237
>FNH produces rifles entirely in-house at an order of magnitude faster
>other shops outsource parts and have supply dependencies
>but its only 4000 rifles!

nigga you dumb

>>31312258

now that's the pot calling the kettle black

>>31312304
G36k you twit

>>31312320
Actually I own both a 17s and a 6.5 creedmoor on a maten

>>31312304

shifty plastic

>>31312340
>i have black friends, but..

>>31312320
>military contracts are awarded on the basis of a manufacturers ability to deliver

I don't see anyone in this thread to include myself that is suggesting it isn't a factor. However, what you seem unable to comprehend is there are several other and often times much more significant factors that are weighed in the decision.

KAC, DD, LWRC, LMT, etc. all have the capability to produce the amount of weapons in the time period specified in the CSASS solicitation. They wouldn't have bid had that not ben the case. And yet still, none of those rifles were chosen.

>>31312436
>KAC, DD, LWRC, LMT, etc. all have the capability to produce the amount of weapons in the time period specified in the CSASS solicitation.

citation needed

also, what is contractually obligated armory support. FNH is the only builder on that list who produces everything in house, everyone else is forced to depend on third parties.

>>31309872
>Cartier
>not for plebs

Pick one

>>31312470
>citation needed

>Heckler & Koch Defense Inc., Ashburn, Virginia, was awarded a $44,500,000 firm-fixed-price contract with options for Compact Semi-Automatic Sniper System spare parts, training, and government purpose rights. Bids were solicited via the Internet with eight received with an estimated completion date of March 30, 2022. Funding and work location will be determined with each order. Army Contracting Command, Picatinny Arsenal, New Jersey, is the contracting activity (W15QKN-16-D-0051)

You obviously have zero understanding of how government procurement works. These solicitations are always inclusive of training, support and follow on contracts.

>>31312061
Please kill yourself

>>31312436
>And yet still, none of those rifles were chosen.

No doubt that FNH being able to deliver the cheapest per-unit bid because of economies of scale and their guarantee of long-term in house support had nothing to do with them being awarded the contract.

Not one bit.

>>31312550
>cites the one manufacturer that can remotely compete with FNH on scale

You obviously have no idea how manufacturing and scaling works.

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>>31312565

Except they didn't actually win. Pls kill yourself.

>>31312591
>being this bad at reading comprehension

>>31312582

I cited the contracting official (not HK) which specified that logistical support, spare parts and training were included in the solicitation for the CSASS rifle.

Every one of the bidding companies tendered a product and price to meet those requirements and you continue to imply that KAC, DD, LMT etc were incapable of doing so.

>>31311619
>>31311673
Wouldn't be so sure.
When they first came to market, I had a chance to get in on a group buy for $1700.
I passed because I didn't know anything about them.
(P.S. it was some promotional thing that FN did with a few of their customers)
I think it was sold at a loss to help generate hype

>>31312604
>thinks FN won the CSASS

>>31309818

You waited too long faggot.

Scalia is dead and your only hope of getting one is if Hillary doesn't become president.

>>31312662
>missed the part about HK being the only other company on the list who can match FNH on manufacturing

>>31312934
>missed the part where it doesn't even matter

Again, and for the last time, every bidding manufacturer was able to meet the required production and delivery requirements for the solicitation in question or they wouldn't have submitted in the first place.

It doesn't matter if HK/FN can produce 400,000 rifles a year and KAC only 40K because the contract only stipulated 4K to be delivered.

I'll remind you that Sig and Remington submitted bids as well. So long as the manufacturer is capable of producing and supporting the number of rifles required, that box gets checked and isn't looked at again. Instead the evaluation moves on to more important factors such as weapon performance and total price of the bid.

The bottom line is that KAC, LMT, Remington, LWRC, DAE and every other contestant including FN were eliminated based on the merits of their rifle rather than their ability to mass produce them.

>>31309818
They were recently recalled because they fucked up the bolt or bolt carrier or something like that that. They likely are sorting it out still.

>>31311650
They'll be coming out in two months, two months from now also

>>31309818
Seems Murrika just got a new batch recently since there are so many on GB. Better get em now before they're scarce again and hundreds of dollars more expensive than last.

>>31313121

>Thinks military contracts are based on merit
>not lobbying

Oh right, this is /k/.

HK has the best lobbying machine in the game.

>>31312033
>>31312156
>>31312237
Pretty sure HK won the CSASS and the m110 will continue to be used.

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>>31314499
>pretty sure
Your patronizing is seriously jr. high level man.
step it up

>>31314389
>many SCARs on GB

What the shit are you on about? Just searched "scar 17" on GB and there's a grand total of 5 rifles listed.

>>31316093
Dumb bitch cannot into order of operations

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>>31317356
>only 5 scar 17s on GB
Literally two dozen

>>31317382
>>31317382

You know what gets me?

Is the shit is in american numerals. On a Japanese TV Show. Where people are speaking Japanese.

With Japanese Network logos all over the screen.

For some reason I also want to presume that Orders of Operation is a western method of mathematics. But I might be way the fuck off.

Either way this shit is hilarious.

Is it still PEMDAS?
Please Excuse My Dear Aunt Sally.

>>31320987
That is Korean.