Alright /k/ civil war has broken out in America. You operate

>>31202062
>1 rifle and whatever you can fit on it
Windham Weaponry M4gery + ACOG + 45°offset RMR

>1 pistol
>G17 + RMR

>And if you want you can throw in your bonus gun.
>G26 + RMR

This would be quite expensive....

>Rifle
FN FAL
>Pistol
Obrez Nugget
>Bonus Gun
MG3

>>31202123
Solid, you running iron sights? Maybe you can loot a thermal scope

>>31202131
I'd probably put an ACOG on the FAL, but it really isn't needed.

>>31202062
SA M7
CZ SP01 Phantom

anything the SA M-7 cant handle could be with a k31 with some glass

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I play only on hard mode.

Youth 410shotgun, with birdshot

And walther p22

>>31202062
>raifu
AR10
fat fuckin integrated suppressor
adjustable gas block I can shut to make it a straight pull bolt action rifle
chambered in 6.5creedmoor
20x long distance scope
angled acog or similar, maybe just a 2x magnification optic
bipod
>peestol
long slide 1911
rechambered in 7.62tokarev
double stack magazine, somehow
foldout minimalist vertical grip
>bonus gun
obrez type 4bore with foldy vertical grip and one of those flashlights that can burn paper and shit

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>Rifle
L115A1
AAC Titan
NF NXS 5.5-22x56 MOAR-T reticle
extra mags
>Sidearm
Sig P226
>Bonus round
pic related chambered for 9x19

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>>31202062
>but this pistol with (even without) AP rounds is unmatched. 20 round magazines, accurate as fuck, and can go through thick bulletproof glass.

my 10mm can do the same thing and still do actual damage in tissue, not just .22 caliber puncture wounds.

>>31203380
Wat gun is pic

>>31203411
bizon

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>>31202062
>1 rifle and whatever you can fit on it
Murata Type 13 chambered in 11×60mmR
>1 pistol
Nagant M1895, silenced
>And if you want you can throw in your bonus gun.
Shitty homemade 12 gauge pipe shotgun

>>31203380
>MOAR
not using superior MIL-R

Bar mk 2 safari in .25-06 with a 4x scope and get an flir scout scope.

Pistol any 9mm

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>>31203541
Do a mud test on the CZ 75.

>>31203380
>lol9
>+P+ not specified
>not glorious 7.62tokarev
still an alright idea, I guess.

PTR-91 converted and built for full auto fire.
Para P-14 with long slide, rated for .45 Super.
Lage Max-10.

>>31203541
>>31203619
We know it's you, Ian

>>31202062
M1a, stock features, accessory rail w/4~8x zoom scope, maybe a low-light filter and 45-degree offset reflex sight/backup irons and 25rd mags up the wazoo

if I'm feeling like an asshole, re-chamber it for 30-06 and source 20-round mags to fit

Pistol: Ruger American, bevel out the rear sights to turn the box-posts into a hex-post, no frills, just decent ammo and lots of it

Bonus fun: figure out a way to carry my Rem870 in its bullpup frame and 1-point bungie sling alongside the rifle

>>31202062
Whatever I could hypothetically liberate from the DHS goon squad with my superior Katana. (Heh. This one's personal, kid.) Moistly after dark.

the vast majority of you fuckers would die fairly quickly. innawoods fantasies are just that, fantasy. i'd probably die quickly too since i let myself get out of shape after getting out of the army. my point is....get in shape, get some training, do training yourself. gearqueer fantasies about SHTF are fun, but if you're actually serious about not dying in a real world event then stop posting on /k/ and get some skill and get fit. gear isn't going to save you.

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>1 rifle
Muh SKS
>1 handgun
Silly anon, you don't NEED handguns in Canada

>>31202062
Rifle: Savage Scout in .308 with a cheap 3-9X40 so when mine wears out I can replace it easily with no interference.

Pistol: CZ 75b with the 25 round Tanfoglio extendos and the feed lip ground down to function right.

Extra gun: Remmy 870A takedown kit with the super stubby barrel and flip-down foregrip.

>>31203403
How's the Tanfo 10mm working out with the polymer frame? Everywhere I read says they eat the shit out of the frame. Springs help this at all? I have a 9/.40 PS kit and typically I shoot lots of +p in it and no frame flex yet. Not sure I'd trust it enough for 10mm but curious before I bite the bullet and find out the hard way.

>>31204561
I actually really like the look of the optic on there

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>>31204619
Right? I was worried it wouldn't look that great, but it looks amazing. Best part is I can still load it with stripper clips.

>>31204561
Being an Aussie . I'm really jealous of you in Canada , Commonwealth Brothers for life.

A PSL and a PSL pistol

>>31204636
I really wish that the commonwealth would allow open borders. Basically just Canada Australia and New Zealand. Not the UK. They can go die with their restrictive gun laws.

>>31202062
>One Rifle
My TAPCO'd SKS

>One Pistol
CZ-75 SP-01 Shadow

>bonus gun
81mm motar with some Willy Pete

>>31204658
We used to have it good in Australia pre-1996 NFA .

A simple AK. Even an idiot like me can keep it running. AR is also good, lots of spare parts, lots of ammo and pretty easy to work with, but I'd feel a bit more comfortable with an AK.

Pistol should be a glock, preferably in 9mm, since it's the one pistol I know I use

>>31204561
Details on that SKS mount???

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>>31204743
>Australia pre-1996 NFA .
Holy shit that's sad.

Can anyone tell me if this would be a good rifle to buy in 7.62? I have a shit ton of ammo because of my two SKSs
http://www.cabelas.ca/product/69870/robinson-armament-xcr-l-semi-auto-rifle

>>31204767
I'll take a look quick.

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>rifle: kel tec rfb. Unstoppable .308 win, ambi, bullpup. Git sum

>pistol: pic related

Bonus: glorious kalashnikov rifle, mine is a zastava npap.

AK74M with GP25 & Obzor Sights
Glock 17

Bonus Gun SVD for the Marksman per Squad.
You don't really need anything else.

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>>31204767
Just found it out quick. Ncstar SKS rail mount. If you look that up that's the mount I have.

Bumping with pictures I took of my latest surplus purchase

Civil war, well i'll get in contact with some of my military friends and see which way they're goin with things if I can, an then head up an enlist if they're siding with whatever the military is.

Then i'll just have whatever i'm issued.
Why any of you'd wanna go full 100% innawoods mode and not join a militia or your friends is beyond me.

>riced out, properly bedded with non-shrinking compound, suppressed, scoped M1A
>RIA 1911A2 (doublestack) in 10mm
>Vepr-12

http://www.armslist.com/posts/5782164/detroit-michigan-rifles-for-sale--savage-11-111-hunter

120 bucks under msrp, 'zeroed', so what's wrong with it?

>>31204936
It's obviously stolen

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>>31204976
I figured.

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>>31204759

>9mm... Glock

You sound like a faggot. There is only one acceptable glock. Pic related

>>31205046
Yeah, sure 10mm is more fun but you have to be able to feed it aswell. Not sure if I can get my hands on 10mm as much as I can with 9

>you get to pick guns
>you don't get to pick sides
You skipped the most important question, therefore you're a faggot.

>>31205078
you get to choose things related to /k/. Sides are more like /pol/, no?

>>31205077

>not buying 10,000 rounds
>posting on /k

Get a job

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>>31202062
skeletonized folding stock aks 74
perst-4 & T-2 Aimpoint
ccw: glock 19

common ammunitions easy to hide
and you bet your ass Russia is going to do some proxy war shit.

>>31202062
the 5-7 unmatched
wew laddy

Picks:
-AR15 with 1-6X scope or if innawoods a light AR10 like the DD ones with some o dem epr magic bullets

-Beretta 92g brigadier of some kind be it an elite, a wilson, an SD, etc. If concealability is paramount then a Glock brand Glock model Glock 26.

Bonus:
If you don't have to carry it
-Serbu or Barrett 50 semi auto
If you have to carry it
-precision rifle like a TRG 42 in .300 WM or .338 LM
If somewhere with lots of game birds and you're hungry as fuck
-a semi auto scatter gat that takes chokes that can be multipurpose like a Beretta 1301 or benelli m2

>>31205215
>averaging 3mi per day
get back to me when you hit 16 minimum

>>31205102
What kind of job lets you afford that much ammo? Jesus Christ, I'm in the wrong business.

>>31205317

Anything besides min wage. What are you spending like 15k a year on rent, 5k a year on car payments, and 6k a year on students loans? Because if so, then you are obv living beyond you means and need to learn to budget.

>>31205534
>After-tax Income, $1200~$1400/mo
6k student loan, $100/mo
19k car loan, $300/mo
Insurance, $125/mo
Credit overspending from lack of financial discipline, $500, $25/mo, used to be $100/mo payment from $1k
Food, $200~$400/mo
Gas $100~$150/mo
Phone service $50/mo
>Net Income, $50~$500/mo
>Net Weekly, $12~$125, easily spent on bug-out gear, incidentals like license renewals, slowly building up ammo reseves, or a drink with a friend

I just rated a 10c raise, so that'll give me a few dollars more leeway, but it's not a lot to play with unless you completely buckle down and push your reserve of willpower to the limit, given stress and illness, that doesn't actually last very long and I end up overspending on release. It just makes me more furious with myself.

>>31205667
12-1400$ a month take home?? How can you even live? Im sorry our economy is such shit that you cannot make a living wage.

Hope Trump fixes this. Honestly, if youre not taking home like 5k a month, youre poor. You should be able to pay all your bills, save extra outside work plan retirments like, save for vacation, save for rainy day, save for luxury, etc. this is the american dream.

Honestly, anyone who is amking under 70k a year is not middle class. Just because you can get by, doesnt mean you are getting by with an achievable American dream wage.

>>31205979

Sorry for bad editing. Typed on my phone while pooping.

AK 74, Five-seveN, CZ 75

>>31205979
>>31206002
Hah, that actually takes the sting out of my poor ability to save somewhat. Honestly, since I'm bunking with family right now, once I can get back up to 15/hr I can put away a good 500/mo if I don't blow it on funs

>>31204539
My exact thoughts. I'm out of shape but understand this. At least there will be plenty of arms and ammo. There is still time to improve your fitness level before elections.

>>31206220
I'm still trying to find a focus for fitness, I've got plenty of endurance being used to a dozen miles a day with blisters, I can make the worst slogs in inclement weather- my cardio is weak as fuck though, I can't run without my blood pressure skyrocketing, had the doc check my heart and bloodwork back in high school when the problem started, nothing is amiss so he can't figure it out, but for whatever reason I'm incapable of building cardio (or upper body strength for that matter, my legs are natural powerhouses tho)

working on finding state land I can practice move and shoot drills and doing some BOB camping with my brother, but what else?

>>31203541
Lol you'll be the first person to kill with a Murata in the last 70 years

>>31206274
My leg amd back got destroyed while I was in. As much as I would like to think I can run and gun, most days I'm lucky to walk without collapsing. So I'm focused on good fundamentals, with some on figuring out how to get back in shape enough to resist if a civil war does come. My skills will be better served being subversive and taking out infrastructure.

>>31206376
Or training up the fodder to something remotely effective, oyaji.

>>31206376
Eh, you'll get there, soldier, I just run through the pain- it hasn't killed me, not yet, anyways, I'm just kinda dropping the focus on that part of my body because I know I can push it to be marginally effective when I need to and looking at where I can get stronger.

I've noticed my right hip is going out since I started driving, really fucking weird too, any cushioning drives my sciatic nerves crazy, so I stand on hard ground with cut down insoles, but every time I go to stand it's like the muscles in my right hip are snagging on a hook inside my body

>>31206644
Have you tried seeing a good chiropractor?

Have you tried Biofreeze?

>>31206665
I now have something to research

>>31206665
fancy icy-hot? no thanks, can't afford a chiropractor either, I just do my stretches and mitigate most of the problems, just that nagging snag

Any good 5.56 AR with 14.5 barrel, SLR adjustable gas block, Surefire suppressor with QD brake, keymod handguard, MFT minimalist, best folding sights, ACOG and nice fixed sights offset mounted. Load up with SS109.

G26 with tritium sights, full size G19 magazines and microtac laser. Load up with FMJ.

Serbu super shorty or auto suppressed bizon in 9x19. Buck shot if Serbu, hollow points if bizon.

Just wait for it all to blow over.

>>31204868
if its full blown civil war the military will be under the fucking microscope to watch for deserters, OPSEC leaks etc. Odds are your buddies wont even have phones anymore.

>join a militia or your friends

Everyones going to die in the first stages, Because its all going to be idiots running around with no clue and just trying to kill cops and shit. Until leadership and propper cells are formed i'de rather just stick with my current groups plan of digging in with a years worth of food and water for the dozen of us, stashing water weaspons and ammo we can to avoid losing them all in confiscation, and setting up an information network so if and when any semblance of leadership is formed that isnt crushed within a week we have something to bring to the table other than being part of the smart ones not to get caught in the first waves and having died for nothing.

>Adams Arms 14.5" 5.45x39mm Tactical Evo Carbine

Because I have 31,200rds of 5.45mm ammunition and 12 of the 5.45mm AR magazines.

w/ Aimpoint CompM4S & LaRue mount, Troy Tritium Sights. AAC suppressor with 51T adapter. (all owned except the suppressor itself)

Surefire M600U w/ Tapeswitch and LaRue Forward Grip. 2pt VTAC sling with QD attachments.

Magpul STR stock, MOE Grip, and MIAD enhanced trigger guard. Single stage ALG QMS trigger.

w/ a ghetto rustoleum spraypaint job in brown and tan

>Glock 22 G3 ODG
Glock 15rd magazines, Surefire X300U weaponlight and Trijicon NS (dont own light or NS)

Decent holster

>>31203192
>>31203380
>>31203541
Hope you don't run out of special snowflake ammo
>>31203403
Your 10mm holds less, has more recoil, probably less accuracy, and I'm not convinced on the penetration but ok
>>31204539
If an entire nation goes to civil war people will die sure but why would most people just die suddenly? It doesn't work like that. And we aren't all fat fucks either.

>>31204539
Heh
>Proje/k/ting this much

>>31207040
You seriously calling 300 win mag/338 snowflake ammo when you picked a 5.7 and even considered the thought of AP 5.7?

5.7 non AP doesn't pierce soft armour out of a pistol. Might as well have picked the lelkek pmr30 at least you get more ammo.

>>31205667
>1200-1400 monthly take home
Wtf m8 I'm getting 1600 take home while full time in school. What degree did ya get?

I bring glorious mosin nagant m07 and mosin nagant m07 obrez.

1) FAL

2) BHP

3) AR-15

Rifle
>Something decently accurate and chambered in 7.62x39 (simply because there's shitloads of that ammo in my country.) Could be an AR platform, or an AK. I don't really care.
Pistol
>Glock 17. Because ammo availability, 33 round magazines, and I believe it would hold up relatively well in the cold and in wet conditions.
Bonus gun.
>Browning Xbolt High Grade rifle. Chambered in 7mm Rem Mag. I'm a good shot and having something with long range capability is important to me. 7mm rem mag is a very available cartridge and would be easier to find.

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>>31202062
1 rifle
muh PTR 91, iron sights

1 pistol
pic related, 12ga super shorty

bonus item is steel plate chest armor, lad, not a useless pistol. a nation of /k/ommandos running wild means i need a plate carrier to hang my G3 mags from, anyway.

Nugget, security six, mossy 500.

>>31207264
Yeah your right. Except the 5.7 has very good penetration.
https://youtu.be/_teY8vwwXvA

>>31207925
Can't argue with that I'm a little impressed.

>>31207328
>dropped out of nursing after the navy blacklisted me
>dropped out of LEO course after seeing what they do to whistleblowers
>6 grand wasted
>don't want to risk a STEM degree until debt is free and clear

what degree?

>>31208813
Ouch.
Doing a dual degree in EE and CompE.
Stem is hard but if you stick with it, it is definitely worth it.
I would definitely recommend brushing up on your math skills using khan academy to give you a boost if your a little math adverse. I would still say it's possible to get through stem without liking math.
As a general just so you know when you first go into your physics class and some of the intro to engineering the math they do when they explain stuff will be over your head. Don't think you are behind or anything they just feel the need for proofs which will be explained in your high level courses.
Just don't quit. Worse case should be you drop to half time if need be but all of the classes aren't bad if you spend the time on them.

>>31209037
Right now I'me just looking for something with enough of a spark to keep the motivation to continue, right now all I have the urge to do is prep, try to build a DIY rifle plate, look at it as a "novelty armor" business, and save enough money (~$8k) to fuck around with eight-ton pneumatics and three-quarter-ton exoskeletons with analog control schemes. MechE with dashes of EE and CompE is probably the way to go, but I really just want to work with my hands in a makerspace and learn hands-on so I can get into building things. Childish, I know, but if there's no spark you just die halfway through the start of something as soon as it gets difficult.

>>31202062

I've been coming to /k/ recently to wise up on what I should purchase for the coming civil wars. I have a bunch of cash to drop but am still having a problem deciding, but thank you /k/.

something in 7.62, AK or AR.
ruger 10/22 takedown w/ threaded barrel
ruger mkiii w/ threaded barrel
shitty cheap .22 revolver, gun show purchase untraceable to me
a real handgun for CC, can't fucking decide
eventually a real true "battle rifle"?
not sure if I should bother with a shotgun

>>31209383
.22lr, 9mm, and 5.56 will be the most plentiful if you're raiding other people's arsenals

>>31209424

yeah you're right.. got .22lr covered on my list, 9mm was the highly probable choice for the CC handgun, i was angling for 7.62 over 5.56 because penetration would be most desirable if I'm in a situation requiring an AK/AR

>>31209424
>tfw you can take revenge on your 22lr scalping neighbor

>>31209383

I forgot to mention, I am thinking of adding a drone or few to this list, that's a whole other line of research. But it could be very useful, no?

>>31209452
5.56 is faster and has better penetration against armored targets and basically anything living deer sized or smaller. If you're going up against bears or shooting through structures then 308/7.62 is better, but keep in mind you'll be able to hold at least twice as much on you.

>>31202062
Nahbro, I'm a sapper. Disrupt logistics, disable armor, ambush reinforcements... I can do it all alone and walk away clean. So no rifle, I'll replace it with several kinds of high yield IEDs, for the sidearm ill go with a glock 17, but if I'm using it I'm already kill.

AR-15 with irons, Glock 17 sidearm.

>>31209504

Hmm yeah I should just get an AR15 and a 308 scoped hunting rifle for those situations I guess. Which penetrates better, 308 or 7.62?

>>31209573
Yes

>>31209112
If I were you I would recommend a mechE and light comp sci, ee combo.
My Mech friends seem to do a decent bit of programing for microcontrollers for different things. If you want to work with your hands and actually do things consider being an engineering tech. Sure they don't make quite as much as an engineer but the gap closes with experience. The course work is arguably easier too. It's more of working with your hands vs theory. Take an intro to engineering course. At most schools they will take you through the assorted engineering branches and show you all the cool fun shit you will do.

>>31209504
I just wanna grab a 30-06 off savage, get some darkeagle 10 round mags, and have myself a hi-powered scout rifle with ammo that costs an arm and a leg to field- BUT, I can pay even more for AP and API ammo and be a real nasty girl sharpshooter

>>31202062
>AR-15 with shroud, light and suppressor (if shit really has hit the fan, I would also mill out the block and make a much better suppressor). I'd also have a Mossberg 557 with an underslung light for house-clearing.

>Glock 17 9 mm, because I like to have a lot of bullets when I'm shooting at something, and hollow-points should do the job nicely. Again, a suppressor.

I live in Long Beach CA, so my engagement range would be less than 500 yards for almost everything. AR-15 would cover my property, and allow me to pick off targets at longer ranges, while the shotty would be good for clearing confined areas.

One thing I'm never really clear on for SHTF scenarios is, what exactly are we doing? Are we just going out and raiding and scavving stores and shit, or are we trying to fight the military, or are we just headhunting our least favorite ethnic group? I'm fine with the rampant murder, but I am curious.

>>31202062
>ar
depends on who we're gonna be fighting but generally it's a good choice regardless of shit on it
>mark 23
best combat pistol ever in good ol' 45

>>31208813
You're not the first person I've encountered that dropped out of LEO school but I haven't heard what they do to whistleblowers. Explain?

>>31209710
>another officer breaks the law
>break the blue code by turning then in or, heaven forbid, arresting them yourself
>officers from three or four states away will stalk you
>bureau investigators will give them your information so they can find you
>the edifice of the law will harass you with constant threatening phone calls

>>31209817
this is that lady cop in, was it florida or georgia, that arrested a trooper for drunk speeding at 110mph on the highway?

>>31209573
They're pretty much the same, but 308 is more common in the US.

Did you read my post>>31209504 though? I said pretty clearly I would get 5.56 or 5.45x39, not 308 or 7.62x39.

>>31209496
Like a unmanned reconnaissance aircraft? Sure would. Commercial drones you probably won't get much more than a flying camera that doesn't hold much weight.

>>31209508
I'd get something light, the p90 if you're willing to stock up on the 5.7 ammo. Sorry I keep bringing up this meme round. Maybe an 9mm SMG or something. Are you military or you just like to play army sapper? (No bully)

>>31209850

ah it wasn't that clear. I'm imagining a scenario where your enemy group is in a checkpoint or something and you need penetration. 308 hunting rifle wouldn't be so great really in that situation, better to hose it down with 7.62 right?

>>31202062
I'm keeping this realistic

>Ishapore 2A1
I'm a poorfag so it's what I'll probably buy in the near future

>Beretta M9
I broke the bank on this gat and I love it to death

>>31209945

yeah thats what I mean, and more... anybody put pepperspray or .22 single shots on drones? or some sort of activated mechanism that allows you to drop concussion grenades etc?

>>31209817
>>31209832

this super gung-ho bulldyke bitch local LEO here gave a neighboring suburb's police chief a speeding ticket and now she's a paramedic.

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>>31204612
havnt had any problems with the frame after 500-600 rounds, it was jamming like a motherfucker the last time i had it at the range but i think that was because of the waxy .22 rounds i was using in the .22 conversion kit i have for it.

from what i understand you actually need the flexibility of the polymer frames on 10mm handguns (Witness and Glock 20) to properly handle the pressure loads, its the older steel frames on Delta Elites and Bren Tens that tended to beat themselves apart and loosen the tolerances after thousands of rounds. i still use the factory weight recoil spring but upgraded mine to a Springco dual stage guide rod which seats better in the slide and helps reduce recoil, but makes pulling the slide all the way back a real pain in the ass.

>>31202062
Going with

>AR platform.
W/ Atpial, Leupold MK6 1-6x in a Geiselle mount, SureFire M300 or a M600 with AA body, KAC flip sights, all on a DD RIS II. Barrel would be whatever length i can get away with (as long as possible without getting ridiculous) with Surefire Socom muzzle device and can to match, because its fucking civil war in my country and might as well get shot while wearing gucci.

>Hi Power, Glock 19, Something 10mm
dunno.

>Super short 12 gauge for breaching

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>>31207040
>and I'm not convinced on the penetration but ok
>>31207925

oh look the same guy does the same review with the same 10mm ammo i use and it punches right through bulletproof glass and the bullet itself was recovered undeformed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDvzul3rvTk

>>31210127
I don't know really if 7.62x39 is better than .308 at killing people, because I haven't shot anybody with either. Keep in mind that 308 Winchester is 7.62x51, which is bigger than 7.62x39. I would still, going up against human targets, take a 5.56 or 5.45 over 308 or 7.62. If you're still really set on getting 308 or 7.62 for whatever reason, get 308.

>>31210299
also heres a video of a military-use 5.7mm round penetrating a grand total of 8(!) inches of gel and delivering something around 250 ft/lb of energy on impact, while Underwood Xtreme Penatrator 10mm rounds punch through 25+ inches of gel with 700+ ft/lbs of energy and easily defeat Level IIIA armor.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLGarHgm4YU

If we have a war in the U.S. there will be plenty of rifles and handguns laying on the ground in broad daylight on the rotting corpses of statism enforcement agents.

>>31210299
>>31210336
Fair enough. But what's the recoil like on a 10mm? And the ammo capacity? I think you said extended mag which is fine and dandy. I don't own a Five seveN (yet) but I believe they have 30 round mags.

>>31202062
>rifle
Zastashit M70 with no attachments. Love 7.62x39 and I'm much better with irons.

>pistol
Jericho in .40 S&W because aesthetic.

>bonus
Full retard Mac 11, or some other machine pistol that can be built in your garage. Small, lots of firepower. Why the hell not?

I have shit taste, I know.

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>>31210405
recoil is the biggest downside, i usually describe it as a "crisp .45" recoil. its no heavy magnum round but accurate double taps arnt usually on the table.

capacity is the same as a .40 cal weapon, around 15 rounds for a full-sized handgun like the G20/G40 and around 10 for a compact.

Wolf makes a magazine extension for 20 rounds and the Glock 21 magazine kits for the Kriss Vector can be used with a slight modification for 32 round magazines that are twice the height of the gun itself.

>>31210469
twice the weight, too. I have one of those Kriss Vector magazines I converted to 10mm

>>31210482
yeah my Witness already weighs 42oz with a full load of 180gr rounds, its one of those factors you dont really think about until you try carrying that shit around on your hip for 8 hours straight.

>>31210497
yup. work in a gunstore so carrying my 20 meant I was generally eager to take the gun off when I got home

>>31210512
its something i really noticed when i switched calibers, 15 rounds of 180gr is a total of 2700gr of bullets, while my current mix of 140gr and 60gr are only 1540gr, which by my math is almost 3oz less without removing any accessories or reducing capacity.

utah reporting in.

rifle:
>.408 cheytac intervention w/ nightforce NXS 5.5-22x56 optic
pistol
>glock 34 MOS with a reflex sight and some extra 33 round mags

WE LONG RANGE OUT HERE BOYS

i guess for a bonus i'd get a dd ar15 with an acog or some low-magnification aimpoint job.

>>31202062
Rifle: M4 with IR scope, IR laser, and silencer
Pistol: glock 18
bonus gun is P90

>>31202062
Rifle
>Ruger Precision Rifle
Sidearm
>Sig 1911 Nitron

you wont see me on the front lines, but you'll feel me, ya feel me?

>>31209995
>p90
Are you fucking joking mane?
If i wanted a gun that fucking broke all the time I might consider it, if im saddled with a main Ill go with an MP5 because im used to HK stuff. I was in the Armoo Infantroo, but they dont exactly do geurilla warfare, so its irrelevant. I just figured that being able to make your own gobangs was worth it for any SHTF scenario so i bought a particular book that probably put me on the nofly list.

>>31211411
Ok well good luck walking around doing shit like that with only a pistol.

>>31209496
>drone
>could be very useful, no?

Yeah dude. JC Denton's gopro drone was futuristic technology in Deus Ex just 16 years ago. A camera drone you can carry in a backpack would be invaluable in an urban chaos situation.

For battle raifu, I'd recommend the PTR. It's a clone of the HK G3 made in the USA on HK tools. The MP5 shares its roller delayed blowback action. It is legendarily reliable, cheap, and fires 7.62x51.

A 12ga is worth having, more than a "real" handgun if you're already carrying a 22lr pistol.

>>31202062
HK PSG1 with the Hensoldt 6×42 scope and B&T suppressor.

Glock 21 w/ night sights and suppressor.

Gucchied HK mp5/10 with aimpoint and suppressor.

Fuck anyone that thinks the five seven is an effective combat pistol.

>>31211672
What's wrong with the Five senveN

>>31211689
It's fuck huge for a .22, poor trigger. It doesn't suppress well. Armor piercing ammo icepicks, hollow points and fmj have mixed results. Good luck ever finding AP 5.7, armor piercing handgun ammo is illegal.

Any agency/military that needs/wants AP ability in a handgun package could easily obtain AP handgun ammo and not buy that overpriced meme gun.

> senven

It only came about as a response to HK MP7 and the 4.5 cartridge which proved highly niche. HK was planning a USP in 4.5 but realized it had no advantages whatsoever over full sized calibers.

FN just markets it as the ultimate operator weapon cause it's super black and shoots through soft armor with the right ammo. And a few spec ops types have them sitting around their armory.

P90 is a full sized carbine that penetrates level 3a armor. Not like you could get that out of any AR type weapon.

FIvE-sEvEN is a full sized handgun that with special ammo can penetrate 3a armor and has a 20rd magazine. Many full sized 9mm handguns can hold 20rds (beretta 92 has 20rd flush fit mags avaliable.) AP ammo is also avaliable for many other calibers.

>>31202062
>Rifle
Sako M-95 with some side mounted soviet optic

>Pistol
Glock 17 Gen 2

Bonus
FN MAG 58/M-240B with 5 spare barrels

>>31204797
7.62x39 xcrs are dogshit get the 556

>>31211787
Good rundown m8. Was wondering what is wrong with 5.7 considering it seemed so much better than others. Appreciate the response.

>>31202062

>long gun
G3 or Mauser 98k because they're rifles I already know, or an Rk. 95. No fancy optics.

>pistol
CZ-75 in 9mm.

>bonus
A couple sacks of chemical fertilizer and a jerry can of diesel

>>31202062
>Rifle
Lahti L-39
>Pistol
Calico m950
>Bonus Gun
Gen. Electric GAU-8

>>31211895
Held and shot them both a couple times. You could sbr an AR with a 10.5 inch barrel and achieve better results.

>Ideal (ie: "not necessary"-mode)
FN SCAR with a fixed bayonet attachment, the most durable, long-range nightvision scope I can find that takes AA batteries and won't get destroyed over time by the 17's standard blowback, retractile folding stock, an egonomic forward grip, ECHO trigger system (or something similar to allow 2-round burst fire) and topped off with the most recoil and sound-efficient suppressor that money can buy.
I will not operate during daylight hours whenever possible.
Mini-Uzi machine pistol or no pistol at all.
Bonus gun: Another Mini-Uzi.

>Hardmode (ie: "What I actually own"-mode)
Basic bitch AR 15 (Sport II with slide-fire.)
Accessories: Ammo, extra magazines, ammo cans.
I really need to get accessorizing but I've got no clue where to start, and I'm on a budget as of my most recent car accident.

I'll play.

If we're only allowed stuff we own it'd be a FNAR wearing a leupold box-1 2-7. G19.

If I can take anything I guess It'd be a savage long range hunter in .338 LM with a vx-6 variable power up to 25x. Maybe just 18x since Upper Michigan long shots are rare.

>>31212347
Damn autocorrect. vx-1.

Well, if we wake up and we are IN IT, I guess I would have to choose between what I have on hand. I would grab my AR15, mine is a Daniel Defense, I have an Eotech red dot on it because I think most of the fighting will be close in, door to door kind of stuff.

I love a wheel gun, but going to war I want my 1911, mine is a high end Springfield. Not the biggest magazine I know, but I am super accurate with it.

A bonus gun with have to some time of long range sniper type set up. I have a few deer hunting rifles, like a 3006, but would really like an upgrade there, but I don't own it at this time.

Any type of NV, would be a big help I would think.

You gon get droned by grease making obese supreme atheist gentlemen that are controlling them and being payed with internet access and free games and all the hotpockets they can carry.
Wont even mention the helicopters and warthogs shredding you and everything you love.
Off to FEMA camps with all of you

>>31203026
Youth mode

>>31207092
if you want to call it projecting, sure. i already admitted i got out of shape after the army. my point is that far too many people focus on gear and guns, when you should be focusing on training and skill development, along with fitness. i'm no exception, i need to get my ass to a gym and get to gunsite or thunder ranch.

>>31205046
You can run .40 through your G20 just fine. And to lower costs reload your own.

>>31205077
Glock 20's can run .40 just fine.
No need for modifications.

>>31215994
This. The case will head space off the extractor. It's arguably safer than shooting .40 in a .40 and 10mm in a 10mm. Don't do this in other guns glocks are safe because the firing pin cannot hit the primer if the case is not held in by the extractor.

>>31204376
>Rechamber
>30-06
>M1a
I've got bad news bru.

>>31216117
>thinking anyone will glocknade themselves from your shitpost.
Go to bed faggot.

>>31202062
>Rifle
FN FAL
>Pistol
Kel Tec PF9
>Bonus gun
Martini Henry

>>31202062
>and can go through thick bulletproof glass.

You got any proof? Is OP right on this? To my knowledge the 5.7×28mm is high velocity/low energy as they come.

>>31216440
Are you fucking dumb?

>>31216653
Pretty much what is needed to get through bullet proof things. High velocity high sectional density.

>>31216653
>>31207925
Here's the video

But it may be worth mentioning these posts talking Down The 5-7
>>31210336
>>31211787

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>>31202062
1 rifle M14 EBR
1 pistol Sig 226
Bonus C96 with stock

>>31217546
Yuck what are you gonna do with that, stick ups?

>>31202062
Winchester model 70
Hk 45 fullsize
Tula armory sks
>aaaaah motherland!

>>31216440
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=40+s%26with+through+glock+10mm

5.56 AR and my Glock 17. Maybe my M44 or my Mossberg 500 on my back. Having something that you won't be able to regularly pick up ammo off of bodies is dumb. Having stuff that works and will be the most available is the way to go.