Looks like the Philippines are buying two frigates from Hyun

Bit surprised at the lack of VLS.

>>31191591
They got two ships for 337 million. Nigga, thats a great price. THey should be happy they got more than rowboats.

It should have a box of four for the launchers, so a total of 8.

For defense, it should have the 21 box launcher of RAM,

All and all, for around 300 mill for 2, not to bad.

>>31191591

That's part of the Tech Package. The Base and SX models don't include it, but it's an available option.

>>31191613
>>31191619

Shit, I thought that's what the price was for each one. That's a crazy good deal.

Are they relying on the Wildcats for ASW? I there's nothing about a hull mounted or towed sonar.

>janes

Yeah no

>>31191681

Hello, my russian friend.

Like fucking pottery.

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>phillipines
>"""navy"""

>>31191681
What's wrong with Janes

>>31191681

>hating on janes

Vatnik spotted.

>>31191613
You're missing the Phalanx on the helicopter hanger too.

>>31191619
The Koreans are refitting their Block Is with VLS missiles later.

>>31191591
The Filipinos are too poor for that.

>>31191681
India, please.

>>31191722
Nah, he's either Indian (GRSE bid initially won, but were disqualified because they're shit) or Chinese.

>>31191735

They shit on an export version of the PAK-FA and vatniks are maaad as fuck about it, anon.

>>31191738

>shitting on the PAK FA
>bad

Maybe the Russian should actually make a 5th gen rather than complaining when the rest of the world calls a duck a duck.

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Looks pretty good for a ASW frigate.

Wonder what sensors and weapons fit they'll roll with.

>>31191332
Flipfag related news:
Some kebabs bombed my hometown just now
https://twitter.com/inquirerdotnet?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

Protip: this is our president's beloved hometown.
Fuck

>>31191332
>Hyundai Heavy Industries.
>Hyundai
They'll break down right after the warranty expires

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>Not buying Type 054A
>No VLS
What is the point?

>>31191893
I thought so too, but it seems Hyundai did a massive turnaround in regards to quality control.

A few of my mates have bought the newer models and they've been running smoothly.

>>31191930
>Buying from the enemy
>Buying Chinese
>Filipinos have no money for higher end missiles
>Primarily for the ASW and EEZ enforcement mission

>>31191893
>>31191941
Hyundai ships >>>>>>>> Cars. Idiots.

>>31191941
Chinese made ships already operate in other navies just fine. For 300 mil a pop the 054As are great. They do ASW too.

>>31192135
Chinese ships are also for poor countries that can't even afford Korean ships, and they still fit them out with superior Western sensors like the Algerians did.

>>31191859
You guys are going to have to go Jack Pershing on those fagots again.

>>31191332
Who puts together those little models?
Cuz I wanna be that guy

>>31192339
I should really get on handloading .45-70 right now.

>>31191859
Apparently Duterte was in the city when this took place, think someone was trying to whack him?

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>>31192414

No idea. Always seems like a comfy job.

I always liked going to museums and looking at the detail on old battleship models.

>>31191332

Finally, something that isn't so poorly maintained that it looks like a moving shipwreck.

>>31191332
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incheon-class_frigate

That's a pretty damn nice little ASW frigate on only 3k tons and 140 crew. If we didn't need the LCS for MCM and littoral work as well as ASW, I'd almost wish we had these instead.

>>31193724

For the price tag, this is probably the best ship afloat.

>>31191738
They didn't even shit on it, they just repeated what they were told by the manufacturer.

>>31192135
Would the flips get 2 054A for that price? No. Then fuck off.

>>31191737
>Chinese

Why? The Chinese don't care about this

>>31191737
>Chinese

Why? The Chinese don't care about this >>31192203
>and they still fit them out with superior Western sensors like the Algerians did.
???

>>31192721
Yeah everybodys buying new stuff in SEA at the moment, just waiting for the war to begin. Probably in a few years at this rate.

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>>31191332
>>31191727
Are they going to decommission our beloved /k/ ship?

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For reference, this is what the second batch of six Incheon class frigates will look like. Different sensor suite, and the addition of the a 16 cell K-VLS in front of the bridge.

DSME secured the contract for this while HHI and STX had the first six.

The third block is markedly different too.

>>31191332

>And lo and behold, a third world navy manages to buy a better ASW frigate than the LCS for 1/3 the money.

>>31192135

Yeah, I am sure the Chinese are just dying to sell frigates to the Philippines. /s

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>>31198246
Hey, hey kid.

Want to buy a frigate?

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What went wrong?

Pretty interested to see which companies take out the Australian and Canadian frigate replacements.

Also Type 26 contract when?

>>31198411
They couldn't offer what they promised at their bidding price.

http://www.janes.com/article/61928/philippines-disqualifies-garden-reach-from-light-frigate-programme

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I want to see what the frigates from Damen are building for the Indonesians will end up looking like when finished.

Pretty cool design.

I think the Vietnamese have contracted the Russians for two more Gepards, and the Thais have ordered a frigate from Korea too, albeit a different design from DSME instead of HHI.

>>31192646
turbo kebabs affiliated with ISIS were mad that they are getting decimated in an ongoing land war, they threatened him that they gonna fuck shit up like the nogs they are.

And it looks like they did it, the absolute madmen.

Seems like these faggots prefer IEDs more than going out there and shooting (which I hope they don't, and if they did, they should get stopped by a cop/armed guard/civvie), they don't want to face resistance.

They want war, we'll shove it up their ass.

>>31197381
Why do you need that many guns?

>>31199105
It's literally a WWII warship. Cannon class destroyer escort/frigate.

Needs all the dakka it can get for kamikaze protection.

>>31198411
>What went wrong?

South Korea literally offered to sell them an entire fleet of second-hand Corvettes to go with it at a later date. Most of Philippines fleet right now is 2nd hand US patrol boats.

>>31199296
Nah, the Filipinos visited GRSE and realised the terms they offered were bullshit, hence why they were disqualified and negotiations and the eventual contract with HHI resumed.

>>31199346
No, they visited GRSE to check out the infrastructure and deemed it satisfactory.

Later they brought up a Hyundai-favored financial guarantee clause, which GRSE couldn't achieve with current cash-flow and reserves. Obviously a big company like Hyundai could.

The clause was only there to disqualify the lowest bidder (GRSE) amicably. The Koreans offered something a lot better under the table, so they went for it.

>>31199419
I stand corrected.

>>31199457
It happens a lot, especially with the US.

This is the easiest way to refuse an offer while also preventing accusations of corruption in the bidding process for going for the more expensive offer.

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Koreans are making a killing in Asia.

Two frigates for Thailand, three submarines for Indonesia, two frigates for the Philippines and an AOR for New Zealand.

Here's a model for the Thai frigates.

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>>31191332
That's a sweet deal. Flip air force should buy more of these babies.

>>31199782
They've got enough for advanced flight training and air enforcement.

Should save up for some F-16s or Gripens next.

>>31193724
Amazing what you can do when you drop the 40-50kt requirement to 30-36kts, allowing for the use of a displacement hull...

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Meanwhile in Italy.

Looks pretty funky.

Why are these poor subhumans even bothering with """"""defense"""""" if they're gonna lose anyway? Don't they have a lot of worthless mouths to feed? Aren't they literally living and feeding on trash? Why do the first world nations even bother giving aid? They should just let them subhumans eat bullets

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>"""""""""""""""""""""""""""Armed"""""""""""""""""""""""" """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""Forces"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" of the Philippines

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Who's going to win the frigate contracts in Australia and Canada?

BAE Systems, Type 26
Fincantieri, FREMM
Navantia, F100

>>31198246
The huge towed sonar that LCS use probably costs more than a HDF-3000.

>>31200409
What towed sonar?

>>31200233
>butthurt chink detected

The Philippines should move towards self-reliance and end its dependence on the United States for national security. They can never match Chinese defense spending, but they will have to have to develop minimum deterrence capabilities that allow them to resist and inflict sufficient retaliation if China continues to undermine Philippine territorial integrity

>>31200233
>>31200289
>>31191727
How's it going mr fiddycent?

>>31200350
My love for Liz says we'll get the Type 26 but my gut tells me we'll just go with Navantia for a full Spanish fleet

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Good deal, but not as kawaii as the Freedom-class LCS

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Where are the going to place the Hellfire missiles if the Harpoons are there, unless they're mutually exclusive?

>>31199782
lol no

Yesterday a major city got bombed, the opinion is that the government should've bought Kevlar vests instead of some plane.

>>31200719
*Not as expensive

ftfy

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>>31191332
they should buy some Vietnamese missile boat

>>31199105

You shut your whore mouth.

>>31200876
You mean Russian?

They're licensed Tarantul missile boats.

Well, they're not a ASW platform that can host a helicopter (Wildcat), and two it's Russian, it'll be incompatible with the Western kit dominated navy.

>>31200480
>>31200622
>subhuman detected

Are the Koreans building both of them?

Or is it the first in Korean shipyards and the second in a Filipino one?

>>31201825
The former. In 2019 and 2020.

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>>31201868
Right oh, in that case the Filipinos can probably expect everything to arrive on time.

Waiting for the final design details, wonder what they'll put on it.

>>31199782

[spoiler]America will give us some of their surplus if SHTF, right?[/spoiler]

>>31199105

SHALL

>>31201979
What?

>>31202195
NOT

>>31202350

IN FRANG

>>31200164
That 76mm gun looks interesting

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>>31202404
http://www.leonardocompany.com/en/-/76-62-super-rapid

>>31196183
Algerians got a corvette from china, demanded a thales pesa.

Does not exactly say good things about chinese radars.

>>31191735
Gets Russian tech wrong yet burgers defend it as if it is true and Russian makers have it wrong.

>>31191859
Fuck yeah, blood for the blood god!

>>31198199
Neat

>>31202593
>Gets Russian tech wrong yet burgers defend it as if it is true and Russian makers have it wrong.
It's yet to be proven Jane's has gotten anything current wrong about Russian tech, and they've been shockingly accurate on past platforms through their entire history.

The only sources disagreeing are Russian-state directed media, which has a clear, vested interest in seeming capable in ways it is demonstrably not.

Meanwhile Jane's is still the premier public source on the military technology and platforms of the entire world.

>>31191681
>>31203434
>Jane's group
>Burger

JANE'S IS A BRITISH COMPANY.

For fucks sake vatnik homo brigades, at least try to use the internet to fucking look things up.

>>31203566
I'm >>31203434
I never said anything about Jane's being a Burger company, and am well aware of it's Bong status. I am very unsure as to why you're shitting on me right now. Perhaps read my post again, and use some reading comprehension this time?

>>31200164
>76/62 SP gun
Like, Single-Purpose? Anti-air defense only?

>>31199919
There is nothing about the Incheon that couldn't be done on an LCS if it was decided to make an air defense module.

>>31200467
Thales UK Sonar 2087 and Multi-Function Towed Array

>>31203738
>>31202551

Maybe it's a typo? The page says it's SR (Super Rapid)

>>31203597
Apologies I meant>>31202593

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>>31199105
To shoot invading Chinese.

>>31200350
>>31200716

Dunno, the Type 26 is currently delayed. I've been told that about 60% of the design has been finished, though apparently the aussies view this as a good thing.

>>31206415
Sign the contract already you shit cunts.

I'm already mad you cut the order down from 13 to 8 because you can't afford the lot.

GPPF my arse.

>>31207986

Mate how do you think we feel? The first steel cut was supposed to have been done in august.

We've been fucked hard by the government on this. We literally have idea what to do about this "GPPF" shite. Too weak to be an escort, too fighty to be a fucking OPV.

>>31203833
>THALES

I wonder if the damn thing works after 10 uses?

If they even got delivered within parameters.

>>31208138
Yeah, they're pretty good.

>>31203434
>It's yet to be proven Jane's has gotten anything current wrong about Russian tech

It's in the OP post

>>31209977
>It's in the OP post
No, it's not. OP's post has literally fucking nothing to do with Russian military platforms.

>>31201963
[spoiler]Only if you agree to reannexation with a 50 year waiting period before getting broken up into several states and fully admitted.[/spoiler]

>>31209977
China fuck off you cunt.

>>31209066
They've got bad rep in Canada now.

Couldn't deliver on ground based radars (years behind schedule), so Rhienmetal got the contract and delivered better radars in under a year.

Couldn't get a fricking Light Rail Transport system to work correctly that ended up taking a whole extra year to sort out.

>>31210456
I can't speak as to actual delivers but once in service the kit is good.

Could be they just fucked up in Canada.

>>31201406
In reality, it is the Filipinos who consider Chinese subhuman and themselves to be the most civilized in the region next to the Japanese, almost equal to whites. It is a position the Chinese in Taiwan, China, Hong Kong etc wish to occupy but cannot. They cannot match the cultivation of the Philippines.

>>31210981
That's what 300 years of white dick and Christianity does to a bunch of savages. On the other hand the Flips have a Muslim insurrection and Duterte is pussying out on dealing with them, so clearly they needed more time as a colony.

>>31210996

How's it going mr fiddycent?

>>31210981
Hating the chinks is justified. Look at how they are despised as tourists, poor drivers, ugly women. Even street dogs are superior to the chinks

>>31197381
>Are they going to decommission our beloved /k/ ship?
How much do you think they want for it? /k/ can buy it and fight pirates with it.

>>31211046
China is far worse in nearly every way. Second best in east Asia is still crap.

There are only three navies based in the Pacific that can match and interoperate with the USN in terms of equipment and training: the JMSDF, RAN and the Philippine Navy

>>31211067
Not RoK? Why? They've got great US-based gear and come out to all the big exercises.

>>31202562
Probably more than meets the eye.

French colony, french equipment, c3i interface, etc.

Honestly, I don't think algeria has a more rigorous set of demands for seaborn radars than the fucking PLAN.

>>31211082

The ROK is primarily a land power, unlike the Philippines, and it shows. In recent naval confrontations with the North Koreans, the ROKN is always on the losing end.

Ironically, the Philippines will put Korean-produced ships to better use than the Koreans themselves, who are generally militarily inept like the Chink nations (Taiwan, Singapore etc)

>>31210981
In reality, nobody gives a shit what the flips think, not even flips themselves.

Truth is, everyone in Asia thinks they're the most civilized and the rest are subhumans. Everyone hates everyone else. Kinda endearing.

>>31211101
Absolutely false, Korea operates the highest displacement AEGIS in the world.

You have no fucking clue what you're talking about.

You're a flip, aren't u?

>>31211067
Flips don't have a real navy. Stfu.

And u missed ROKN.

Flip plz go.

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>>31200350
How would they mod the F100? Ditch AEGIS for CEAFAR and add another hanger? Getting a bit long in the tooth for my liking.

Why wasn't the Danish frigate in the running?

Don't like the FREMM.

Type 26 will be the right choice IMO.

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>>31211139
>>31211156

The only yellow race to have beaten the Filipinos in a war are the Japs and even then, they eventually lost to the largest guerilla movement in Asia.

The South Koreans needed the Filipinos to save them in 1950-53 and as for the Chinks, nothing more needs to be said.

>>31211087
Ehh, i would say the alegerians had a choice, and choose a western compay for radars.

China cant, or wont due to national pride.

>>31211231
Its not the 50s no more, bruh.

>>31211231
Flips...

I bet you think flips are one of the most powerful people in the world, heh?

Get fucking real, nobody gives a shit about your country.

Don't make the chinks boycott your bananas again.

>>31211316
Oh, China can't buy most western equipment for sure, but I think the algerian choice has more to do with how easily a thales suite fits into their existing c3i environment.

Get back to making my clothes, you stupid chink!

>>31211406
That moved to vietnam and india, and other poor countries. Chinese wages are too high.

>>31211352
True, but i doubt algeria is datashareing that much, and radar is radar, you can integrate east and west into a c3i network, its just harder.

Export thales radar is not exactly top notch stuff, and if the chinese radar is of lesser quality...

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>>31199782
coming soon to a theater near you!

>>31200350
The type 26 has the lowest crew requirement of any of the options, slightly less than half of the F100.

Anyone have any details on 25DD?

Isn't it launching this year?

>>31211323

The 50s are when China still had first-hand combat experience. Now? They're all greens.

>>31211723

The aussie contract thread we had a while ago was great.

>>31211101
>The ROK is primarily a land power, unlike the Philippines, and it shows. In recent naval confrontations with the North Koreans, the ROKN is always on the losing end.
Is ANYTHING you say actually accurate? Regardless of inter-operability with the USN, the RoKN is, without reservation on anyone's list, one of the top 8 navies in the world.

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>>31191332
FUCK OFF INDO CUNTS, WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE THE TECHNOLOGICAL ADVANTAGE