https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioT TnjxNc7o How does this

>>31170909
>Can barely get guns lock that close with a Luneberg lens
>Even the Rafale pilots admit that with heavily canned setups they only got a couple good alignments out of ~14 engagements

>>31171205

In a real fight they would have to get that close anyway, because SPECTRA stops missiles from long range being able to target the Rafales. But the Raptors stealth only works at long range but SPECTRA works at all ranges. So the Rafales can fire MICA (which is better than AMRAAM anyway because it has a better seekhead) while the Raptors has to use its gun. The Rafales has a 30m cannon too while the Raptors only has a 20mm and the Raptors is a larger target.

>>31171476
The cannon size between 20mm to 30mm for air targets is irrelevant.

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>>31171476
You are literally worse than Gliderfag, Sebenzaguy, and that VP9fag all combined.

Jesus Christ you shill the Rafale so fucking hard and it's so easy to identify your posts because you always bring up SPECTRA as if its anything notable.

>Rafale is better at BVM even though it doesnt have a BVR missile
>Rafale is better dogfighter because 30mm is larger than 20mm
>MICA is superior to the most tested BVR missile because of a claim of superior sensors with absolutely no way to back it up.

literally kys

pic related, one of many aircraft that is superior to the Rafale.

>>31171579

MICA is BVR.

In a dogfight when the 1970 AIM-9 cant hit a modern plane with SPECTRA jamming it and superior agility to a Hornet the gun will matter.

The Hornet is an old design. It is a 4th generation. Rafales is a 45th generation. Rafale has better weapons like AASM than Paveway anyway and carries more.

>>31170909
<HEAVY BREATHING>

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>>31170909
I'm sorry, I don't speak surrendese

>>31171841
>In a dogfight when the 1970 AIM-9
Confirmed for retard.

>>31170909
Rafale is a good jet, but it's in the same league of the f22.
not being stealth completely eliminates it from being god tier.

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Again one of these threads

>>31172059
>but it's in the same league of the f22.
No, it's not. It's on par with other 4.5s like the Typhoon T3.

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>>31171476
>>31170909

>rafales don't even have detachable tails or wings to confuse predators

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Straight from the video. [1:14]

These threads are always dildos